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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:16:01 AM EDT
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WV needs to be last. Terrible state to live in. We are backwards inbred hillbillies who hate everyone even ourselves. Stay away, go to Utah.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:29:23 AM EDT
[#2]
MI is about where it deserves to be but some of the other picks and even close to what I would pick. I don't they used personal freedom as one of the factors for choosing.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:37:05 AM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boomer: OP doesn’t know what happens to communities and states that top these “Best Places To Live” lists. Preach it. Greenville SC has been on top ten lists for about five years now. The result is tons of growth, almost all from out of state. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:41:10 AM EDT
[#4]
are there cheap slutty women tho?
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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:45:00 AM EDT
[#5]
We spent a night in Vernal, UT 2 years ago.
Seemed a perfectly sleepy boring little town. I think I could go back and enjoy it if not for the winters. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:47:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Twisted10: are there cheap slutty women tho? You can have whores or civilization. Pick one. I’ll take civilization. I have a lot of issues with Mormonism but the women tend to not be whores. That’s a plus. If that keeps out the sort of men who want whores, that’s another plus. Go Utah. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:47:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JLAudio: Utah is No. 1 in U.S. News & World Report’s Best States rankings for a second straight year, with the Beehive State landing among the top 20 in seven out of eight statistical categories. Best States Rankings These Are the 10 Best States in the U.S. Utah New Hampshire Nebraska Minnesota Idaho Iowa Vermont Washington Florida Massachusetts These Are the 10 Lowest-Ranked States in the U.S. 50. Louisiana 49. New Mexico 48. Mississippi 47. Arkansas 46. West Virginia 45. Alaska 44. Alabama 43. Oklahoma 42. Michigan 41. South Carolina As a transplant many years ago, Utah is great. I love a lot of things about NC but I'm always actively on the lookout for states that are a) free, B) have economic opportunity in my industry, and C) aren't fucking miserable swamps half or more of the year. Utah is on the short list. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:49:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: P400]
[#8]
3 states that are politically horrible and oppose freedom appear in the top 10. I can't take that report seriously.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:49:09 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hugh1: If CA, NY, NJ and MI aren't dead last there is a problem with the list.  I came here to post that. Utah has been overwhelmed with Californians the last four years. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:28:02 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: Utah is the next Colorado. You heard it here first. I said the same thing in 2022 when I was out there for work. It's all setup already. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:38:30 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PacNW5: Our life in Washington was wonderful. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:39:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: Utah is the next Colorado. You heard it here first. I think one difference is the traditional social conservatism of Mormons will delay and mitigate it somewhat. |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:44:05 AM EDT
[#13]
Utah deserves what it gets. Every liberal Californian needs to retire there to be close to Mittens.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:48:23 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By byron2112: Uhh, Washington is a tyrannical shithole.. And Taxsachusetts isn't too peachy either. List is garbage, although I do like Utah. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 8:50:06 AM EDT
[#15]
 Utah, Get Me Two! |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:06:14 AM EDT
[#16]
I am sure Utah is fine but US Snooze is hardly a source of unbiased reporting.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:07:49 AM EDT
[#17]
I currently live in NM. The state is absolutely beautiful in certain areas, but I'm not sure that is enough to offset just how much it fucking sucks otherwise....
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UT, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:10:25 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio: Tonights sunset from the patio in the Capitol Hill area, that is SLC airport tower in the distance Utah sunsets are unmatched, orange skies daily https://i.imgur.com/P4ryrFB.jpg It snowed here in the downtown area Sunday up until 3ish pm. Snow in May, Lol. Yeah, that was great. 75 on Saturday, I'm wearing shorts on Sunday. Out & about taking my wife to the mall to do returns. And it starts dumping snow. Son of a... If WA is in the top 10, that list is BS. Traffic, congestion, high property/rent, and tax burden kill the state, let alone the anti-2A sentiment and violent protestors. After the BLM riots in Seattle/Bellevue, the media never reported follow up of the offenders. IIRC, over 300 people were arrested for vandalism and theft. You know it's not a real protest when dozens of people are caught on camera fleeing Bell Square Mall with armloads of Nike/Adidas/Under Armour/etc. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:18:06 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NickPapagiorgio: I love a lot of things about NC but I'm always actively on the lookout for states that are a) free, B) have economic opportunity in my industry, and C) aren't fucking miserable swamps half or more of the year. Utah is on the short list. go moving anymore. I don't think I could convince her to do so anyway. She really likes where we are. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:19:06 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hillbilly62: WV needs to be last. Terrible state to live in. We are backwards inbred hillbillies who hate everyone even ourselves. Stay away, go to Utah. not much for women in WV tho. i love the state but shew... |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:20:08 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boomer: Lol, $430k is dirt cheap. Especially to people in high CoL liberal cities. Enjoy the influx of them. Our property taxes are 1/2 of what they were in WA. Our home insurance is about 1/2. Gas is about $1/gal cheaper. Costco on Sunday is practically empty. Car washes on almost every corner instead of Starbucks. And after being here 10 months, we haven't had one knock on the door from a white-shirt & black-tie youth. And our pew collection has grown since moving here. A 5-min wait for a check and we're out the door, case in hand. Gun ranges don't treat you like a baby. |
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ND, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:20:38 AM EDT
[#22]
I travel regularly across the western U.S. Utah is one of the cleanest states I go through. But that damn Valley north of Spanish Forks is a crowded shithole, like California. I like Heber, although it’s getting crowded too. The thing I notice about Utah is they are really into family outdoor recreation. I see lots of people playing sports ball in their local parks, lots of people hiking with their kids, dirt bikes, mountain bikes, UTVs. Probably lots of shooting guns for fun. I also see lots of those white steeple Mormon churches everywhere in Utah.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:22:05 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By arowneragain: You can have whores or civilization. Pick one. I’ll take civilization. I have a lot of issues with Mormonism but the women tend to not be whores. That’s a plus. If that keeps out the sort of men who want whores, that’s another plus. Go Utah. never met a mormon. as long as they leave me alone, i could care less. i still prefer whores!
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:23:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Twisted10]
[#24]
Masshole in the top 10.
fucking place is just about the worst state in the northeast, maybe Jersey is ahead of it. Both full of retarded accents and assholes |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:26:32 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scott_S: I feel for brothers and sisters behind enemy lines in Washington and Massachusetts, but when those two states are in the top ten, I have an inkling that US News doesn't weigh the same values I find important in a state. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:34:27 AM EDT
[#26]
Fuck yeah , bottom 10 and living like I’m #1 , go boomer !
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:36:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shootindave: If you had ever been through Iowa, you would know there is a problem with that list. Barely any trees or hills or fucking gas stations next to the highway. Iowa is a great state. Learn to accept/appreciate different ecosystems. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:41:13 AM EDT
[#28]
What would be interesting is a state rankings based on things that are important to freedom lovers.
I suspect oppressive regulations of guns and free speech are not considered as a bad thing for most of those lists builders. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:42:42 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GarandM1: Washington would be wonderful if it wasn't run by liberals. I'd move there in a heartbeat if it were as conservative as Utah. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GarandM1: Originally Posted By PacNW5: Our life in Washington was wonderful. Hell I loved it when I was stationed there in the mid-2010s, at the time they still had damn good gun laws but it was clear that wouldn't last much longer |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:44:54 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GarandM1: Washington would be wonderful if it wasn't run by liberals. I'd move there in a heartbeat if it were as conservative as Utah. Politics has very little effect on our daily lives. YMMV. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:44:59 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pogo55: I would agree. I like NC, but I'm not married to it. Unfortunately my wife and I are too old to go moving anymore. I don't think I could convince her to do so anyway. She really likes where we are. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pogo55: Originally Posted By NickPapagiorgio: I love a lot of things about NC but I'm always actively on the lookout for states that are a) free, B) have economic opportunity in my industry, and C) aren't fucking miserable swamps half or more of the year. Utah is on the short list. go moving anymore. I don't think I could convince her to do so anyway. She really likes where we are. Hell I'd happily stick around here if I could make enough working fully remote to be able to live up in the mountains (would probably prefer to be on the Tennessee side, but wouldn't be a deal breaker if I found a good deal on some land in NC), but as it is I'm tied to commuting into Charlotte. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:46:06 AM EDT
[#32]
Utah is rapidly turning into East California. It was a great place to leave but fuckheads like Cox decided to try and turn it into the new silicon valley. It's over crowded as hell now.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:47:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
[#33]
"Only one state – Wisconsin – fell out of the top 10, with the Badger State dropping from No. 8 to No. 17 in the latest rankings."
That raises questions about the rankings. How would a state change that much in one year. Or multiple states change enough to get above Wisconsin? This is clearly biased rankings by cheesephobes. The following in even more questionable: "Meanwhile, Utah was among the poorest performers in the U.S. for natural environment (No. 46)," Utah has to be one of the best for natural beauty. Drive through southern Utah and every new turn reveals a new awesome vista. There are many National Parks, monuments. etc. I challenge anyone who likes natural beauty to even scratch the vast extent of it in a short one week vacation. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 9:47:55 AM EDT
[#34]
I have wanted to move there for years but it got california expensive
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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:11:27 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shadyman: I travel regularly across the western U.S. Utah is one of the cleanest states I go through. But that damn Valley north of Spanish Forks is a crowded shithole, like California. I like Heber, although it's getting crowded too. The thing I notice about Utah is they are really into family outdoor recreation. I see lots of people playing sports ball in their local parks, lots of people hiking with their kids, dirt bikes, mountain bikes, UTVs. Probably lots of shooting guns for fun. I also see lots of those white steeple Mormon churches everywhere in Utah. Not church, Stake Center I've been corrected. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:44:16 AM EDT
[#36]
Religious discrimination still alive and well in the state though.
https://www.fox13now.com/news/fox-13-investigates/former-utah-legislator-settles-religious-discrimination-complaint-with-police-department |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:46:18 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LRShooter: Religious discrimination still alive and well in the state though. https://www.fox13now.com/news/fox-13-investigates/former-utah-legislator-settles-religious-discrimination-complaint-with-police-department The polygamists are left alone, even though the welfare scam needs to be stopped. Legally, you can only marry one wife. So all the other wives are single parents and collecting the state money. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:52:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AmericanPeople]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: The polygamists are left alone, even though the welfare scam needs to be stopped. Legally, you can only marry one wife. So all the other wives are single parents and collecting the state money. That needs to end in the US. No more welfare (taxpayer money) for bastard kids. Fuck "single moms." Liberals use that phrase to legitimize something that should be shamed and certainly not subsidized with money stolen from others. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 11:02:17 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanPeople: "Only one state Wisconsin fell out of the top 10, with the Badger State dropping from No. 8 to No. 17 in the latest rankings." That raises questions about the rankings. How would a state change that much in one year. Or multiple states change enough to get above Wisconsin? This is clearly biased rankings by cheesephobes. The following in even more questionable: "Meanwhile, Utah was among the poorest performers in the U.S. for natural environment (No. 46)," Utah has to be one of the best for natural beauty. Drive through southern Utah and every new turn reveals a new awesome vista. There are many National Parks, monuments. etc. I challenge anyone who likes natural beauty to even scratch the vast extent of it in a short one week vacation. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 11:10:04 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PacNW5: Politics has very little effect on our daily lives. YMMV. That's a bit dismissive. Property taxes? Gas tax/Green Energy tax? Sound Transit tax? Good To Go program & tolling? Lack of social programs to mitigate homeless issue in SEA? Decriminalization of drug use? Sales tax? Covid restrictions? Banning new construction gas service for PSE, resulting in eventual price increases to current service subscribers? |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 11:16:47 AM EDT
[#41]
I liked my time in Utah… but you can keep the winter inversion, the scorching summers and horrendous traffic.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 11:25:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TheWhiteHorse]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio: Tonights sunset from the patio in the Capitol Hill area, that is SLC airport tower in the distance Utah sunsets are unmatched, orange skies daily https://i.imgur.com/P4ryrFB.jpg It snowed here in the downtown area Sunday up until 3ish pm. Snow in May, Lol. Pollution be beautiful, yo!!! The air there is absolutely brutal. My eyes start to burn every time I get about half way down Parleys. I lived in the Aves for a few years… that place has some of the worst air in the country. And when you do get some good wind from the west to clear out the nasty… it’s filled with yummy VX from Tooele. Gotta love it when it comes from the northwest over the lake and smells like Madonna’s crotch. That being said, I’ve been to all 50 states and Utah is definitely top 3 in beauty. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 11:29:22 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheWhiteHorse: I liked my time in Utah but you can keep the winter inversion, the scorching summers and horrendous traffic. Drivers following the traffic rules, however... Utah has some of the dumbest/riskiest drivers of any state I've driven in (not a lot, mostly the West). Sunday in a snowstorm 3 cars with ample following distance ran a red light - like mine was green as each one ran the red across my car's nose. Lane positioning is a light suggestion. Pulling out of a driveway requires no stopping or looking. If you can see the rear tires of the car in front of you, you're too far away, as someone will try to change lanes into that space. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 11:40:35 AM EDT
[#44]
Shhhhhhh!!!!
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Posted: 5/7/2024 11:47:11 AM EDT
[#45]
Utah is cool. Lots of good looking women. Mormons and liquor laws are odd. I don't know how Illinois isn't in the bottom 10.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 11:55:10 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By foxxnhound: Only if you're a conservative, I lived there in the 80s and 90s as a kid and it was great. All the people I know from my childhood still are liberals and believe Washington is still wonderful. My Dad lives there still but he has so much money that nothing Olympia does bothers him. It's no different how liberals view Texas. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By foxxnhound: Originally Posted By byron2112: Uhh, Washington is a tyrannical shithole.. Only if you're a conservative, I lived there in the 80s and 90s as a kid and it was great. All the people I know from my childhood still are liberals and believe Washington is still wonderful. My Dad lives there still but he has so much money that nothing Olympia does bothers him. It's no different how liberals view Texas. Seattle is a shithole whether you're conservative or liberal. I grew up north of Seattle in the 70s and 80s and still have two sisters there. I refused to go back after school b/c I saw the writing on the wall. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:04:27 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cacinok: Seattle is a shithole whether you're conservative or liberal. I grew up north of Seattle in the 70s and 80s and still have two sisters there. I refused to go back after school b/c I saw the writing on the wall. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cacinok: Originally Posted By foxxnhound: Originally Posted By byron2112: Uhh, Washington is a tyrannical shithole.. Only if you're a conservative, I lived there in the 80s and 90s as a kid and it was great. All the people I know from my childhood still are liberals and believe Washington is still wonderful. My Dad lives there still but he has so much money that nothing Olympia does bothers him. It's no different how liberals view Texas. Seattle is a shithole whether you're conservative or liberal. I grew up north of Seattle in the 70s and 80s and still have two sisters there. I refused to go back after school b/c I saw the writing on the wall. How is Denver doing these days? |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:06:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:18:15 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: Utah is the next Colorado. You heard it here first. Checks out. 
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2024 12:21:04 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shadyman: I travel regularly across the western U.S. Utah is one of the cleanest states I go through. But that damn Valley north of Spanish Forks is a crowded shithole, like California. I like Heber, although it’s getting crowded too. The thing I notice about Utah is they are really into family outdoor recreation. I see lots of people playing sports ball in their local parks, lots of people hiking with their kids, dirt bikes, mountain bikes, UTVs. Probably lots of shooting guns for fun. I also see lots of those white steeple Mormon churches everywhere in Utah. Definitely. I usually head to UT to take various classes, in fact I was out there two Saturdays ago taking a pistol class. UTVs seem to be the off road vehicle of choice. |
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