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Posted: 5/5/2024 8:53:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FireMissionDivision: They got enough rice here to feed a whole fucking regiment. You see his head come apart, man? 
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Posted: 5/5/2024 8:55:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Verde: Eyeball to eyeball Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Verde: Originally Posted By spork: The man in the black pajamas, Worthy fuckin adversary. Eyeball to eyeball Dying face down in the muck. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 8:58:48 PM EDT
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Long pig?
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Posted: 5/5/2024 8:59:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dogsplat: Charlie didn't get much USO. He was dug in too deep or moving too fast. His idea of great R&R was cold rice and a little rat meat. He had only two ways home: death, or victory.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:11:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ming_The_Merciless: NVA definitely looked down on VC as being more "suspect" (that they may have agents or counter-revolutionaries). NVA troops had been raised in "Communism" since 1954. The Tet offensive in 1968 basically destroyed the fighting abilities of most VC units when they went up in the open against superior US firepower. The offensive was undertaken in the hope of triggering a general uprising, but urban Vietnamese did not respond as the Viet Cong anticipated. About 75,000 communist soldiers were killed or wounded, according to Trần Văn Trà, commander of the "B-2" district, which consisted of southern South Vietnam. "We did not base ourselves on scientific calculation or a careful weighing of all factors, but...on an illusion based on our subjective desires", Trà concluded. Earle G. Wheeler, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, estimated that Tet resulted in 40,000 communist dead (compared to about 10,600 U.S. and South Vietnamese dead). "It is a major irony of the Vietnam War that our propaganda transformed this debacle into a brilliant victory. The truth was that Tet cost us half our forces. Our losses were so immense that we were unable to replace them with new recruits", said PRG Justice Minister Trương Như Tảng The VC were massacred wholesale in Tet and as a result and the NVA then took the lead in the war all the way to driving their tanks into the Presidential Palace in Saigon in 1975. Many of the VC have hard feelings about how the NVA treated the VC after Tet & especially after the war (as an nearly unmentioned afterthought).  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:33:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Windustsearch]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JarheadPatriot: But did they eat only rice? |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:55:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Butternut: They sure were some tough little buggers. They were the true believers. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:11:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: You see his head come apart, man? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By FireMissionDivision: They got enough rice here to feed a whole fucking regiment. You see his head come apart, man? Once or twice |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:17:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AA717driver: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/197999/IMG_7232_jpeg-3206538.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AA717driver: Originally Posted By dogsplat: Charlie didn't get much USO. He was dug in too deep or moving too fast. His idea of great R&R was cold rice and a little rat meat. He had only two ways home: death, or victory. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/197999/IMG_7232_jpeg-3206538.JPG  Never Get Out of the Boat |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 11:18:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1975: Vietnamese ST25 rice named world’s best for second time interesting page, i didnt know that tuesday was 70th anniversary of the Dien Bien Phu Victory. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 5:20:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: SirSqueeboo]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rgb03: My dad was the same with rice. He said he'd never eat rice again as long as he lived. The man told no lie Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rgb03: Originally Posted By shaneus: A buddy (RIP Jerry), was viet nam vet and refused to eat rice. He told me he had seen too much spilled from ripped open guts to ever eat it again. Also told me that we had hot meals, showers, good gear and training. And they ran around in flip flops with dry rice in a tube sock with a knot tied in it as their rations. And still were terrors cause they were motivated. He said he'd never eat rice again as long as he lived. The man told no lie My dad didn’t like rice until he went there. Thinking back I wish I asked him why that was. Knowing him, it was probably because he was eating the food of the enemy. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 5:38:46 AM EDT
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They ate canned ham and motherfucker, and canned scrambled egg c rats that the GIs tossed. That's why they were so pissed off and fought hard.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 6:55:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: NY12ga]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonKey153: Protein is a problem in SE Asia during peacetime. Can't imagine what they got up to during the war. Long pig? ETA: beat! |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 7:40:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9divdoc: We got hot food, showers, good gear & equipment? News to me. You must have been on the wrong Firebase The one Ann Margeret showed up at.... 
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Posted: 5/6/2024 7:47:07 AM EDT
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Why wouldn't they eat the fruits, vegetables, and meat they raised?
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Posted: 5/6/2024 7:48:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1975: Never knew they put fish in rice paddies. Interesting. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 7:53:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 1975: Not too many fish in the highlands and rice paddies so I’m assuming it was mostly rice. Pretty amazing that they could conduct a guerrilla war on just that. Rice is deficient in lysine and threonine, and also thiamine since it is stored in the inedible part of the seed. So unless you supplement with a legume (soybean) or meat/eggs/dairy, you will eventually have severe health problems. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 7:57:29 AM EDT
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 Hamburger Hill (3/10) Movie CLIP - This Is Han (1987) HD |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 7:57:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9divdoc]
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Down in the MD they also lived off the ARVN and sympathetic govt officials who acted as double agents...
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/6/2024 8:01:35 AM EDT
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fish / dried fish too
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USA
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Posted: 5/6/2024 8:05:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Nick_Adams]
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Originally Posted By 1975: Not too many fish in the highlands and rice paddies so I’m assuming it was mostly rice. Pretty amazing that they could conduct a guerrilla war on just that. Rice … and rat meat. The rats over there, in the country or city, are about the size of large cats. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 8:08:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Papaw: Smart commanders would either booby-trap the trash or set up an ambush around it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Papaw: Originally Posted By Into_the_Void: To add to my previous post, my grandfather said almost every VC he killed had American food in his pack. Smart commanders would either booby-trap the trash or set up an ambush around it. That's exactly what my grandfather and his marines did. One of the very few stories he has shared is letting the food thieves get about halfway through the piles of concertina wire and lighting them up with a mk18. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:21:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AA717driver: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/197999/IMG_7235_jpeg-3206551.JPG No kidding. What a globalist scumbag he was. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:28:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Whiskey1Alpha: They ate meals. Succulent Chinese meals. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:29:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dogsplat: Charlie didn't get much USO. He was dug in too deep or moving too fast. His idea of great R&R was cold rice and a little rat meat. He had only two ways home: death, or victory. Came here to post this 😁 |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:27:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1975]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Into_the_Void: That's exactly what my grandfather and his marines did. One of the very few stories he has shared is letting the food thieves get about halfway through the piles of concertina wire and lighting them up with a mk18. That would be stunning to watch. Those old Honeywell Mk18 Mod 0s were cool.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:51:06 PM EDT
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Maybe, but now they live on KFC/BK and whatever they get outta 7-11/Circle K.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 1:03:16 PM EDT
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Rice, manioc, bananas, papayas and all the fish they needed from the rice swamps.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 1:09:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By osprey21: Rice, manioc, bananas, papayas and all the fish they needed from the rice swamps. bananas alone will feed you just fine, they have different varieties of bananas most americans have never even heard of |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 7:32:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MattyMattel: Maybe, but now they live on KFC/BK and whatever they get outta 7-11/Circle K. I got stuck with rice and fish for lunch today. 
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Posted: 5/6/2024 7:33:58 PM EDT
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Some lived on it, lots died on it…..
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Posted: 5/6/2024 8:22:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Pallas]
[#32]
Rice, local veggies and fruits, fish, they hunted... Even the NVA hunted. The VC pretty much stuck to their areas and had village support or lived in the village. There were different types of VC.
Re: The VC in Tet, they were thrown in to diminish the numbers (also, the save better trained NVA). Can't have an armed indigenous group in a country you are going to take over. The NVA would throw them first into attacks on firebases even before 1968. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 8:31:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1975: Never knew they put fish in rice paddies. Interesting. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1975: Originally Posted By Makarov: Don’t know about Vietnam during the 1960s, but stocking fish in rice paddies has been a thing for a long time. The fish eat bugs that can harm the rice crop, as well as mosquito larvae then excrete Nitrogen rich waste which feeds the plants. When the rice is harvested, the fish are a bonus crop. In Nepal, they would add bags with thousands of Shad fry when the fields were flooded. When they were harvested, they were about 2” long and they would dry them whole with a curry powder to preserve them without refrigeration. The smelled awful, they tasted awful and gave you awful breath and BO but they were a great source of cheap protein for people that region. Never knew they put fish in rice paddies. Interesting. They do crawfish here in the States. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 6:58:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pallas: Rice, local veggies and fruits, fish, they hunted... Even the NVA hunted. The VC pretty much stuck to their areas and had village support or lived in the village. There were different types of VC. Re: The VC in Tet, they were thrown in to diminish the numbers (also, the save better trained NVA). Can't have an armed indigenous group in a country you are going to take over. The NVA would throw them first into attacks on firebases even before 1968. I’ve been studying the Vietnam war for almost 30 years and never knew there was such animosity between the NVA and VC. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 7:00:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jestice75: Not VC, but my wife's uncle was NVA in the US war and her dad was pulled out of high school to fight China in the late 70's. Even though the NVA was better supplied, I think she said they talked about just eating rice with some seasoning. In Vietnamese, when they ask if you ate dinner yet, it literally translates to "did you eat rice yet". It's the same in Chinese to eat and rice are the same word |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 7:02:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GutWrench: Charlie don’t get much ISO. He was dug in too deep or moving too fast. His idea of great R&R was cold rice and a little rat meat. He had only two ways home, death, or victory. Brb, rebuilding the Do Long Bridge |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 7:04:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TailHunter: It's the same in Chinese to eat and rice are the same word Same in Thai, the word for food is cow, which is the word for rice And in Korean the phrase for how are you doing, is the same for have you eaten. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 7:08:46 PM EDT
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I know a lady who was a teenager in Hanoi during the Vietnam war. She said they lived on moldy rice and any animals they could catch in the streets, meaning rats.
If it was that bad in the cities, I doubt it was any better anywhere else. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 7:17:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GutWrench: Charlie don’t get much ISO. He was dug in too deep or moving too fast. His idea of great R&R was cold rice and a little rat meat. He had only two ways home, death, or victory. I came here for this. 
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Posted: 5/12/2024 7:22:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TontoGoldstein: I know a usmc vet with three VN tours, two on the ground and one in the air as a forward air observer. What he saw has given him a searing hatred of VC. He said he would sit down with an NVA vet and talk. He said he would cut the throat of Victor Charlie. *SNIP* I just remember in the 2000's a good friend screaming, "VC killed my family!" |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 7:49:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 1975: Not too many fish in the highlands and rice paddies so I’m assuming it was mostly rice. Pretty amazing that they could conduct a guerrilla war on just that. LOL Asians only eat fish, lol. Chicken? Beef? Pork? Nope! |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 7:56:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dogsplat: Charlie didn't get much USO. He was dug in too deep or moving too fast. His idea of great R&R was cold rice and a little rat meat. He had only two ways home: death, or victory. That, and Charlie don’t surf. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:03:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JarheadPatriot: But did they eat only rice? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JarheadPatriot: Originally Posted By TontoGoldstein: I know a usmc vet with three VN tours, two on the ground and one in the air as a forward air observer. What he saw has given him a searing hatred of VC. He said he would sit down with an NVA vet and talk. He said he would cut the throat of Victor Charlie. BTW, he was robbed by four armed men wearing hoodies at his shop. He opened fire. Three ran away. One bled all over the sidewalk and later died in jail from his GSW. Quiet guy. Real bad ass. Some here, just last week said rice was shit food and it was often eaten with other food that gave people the need nutrients. So probably no if you were to believe GD |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:39:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TontoGoldstein: I know a usmc vet with three VN tours, two on the ground and one in the air as a forward air observer. What he saw has given him a searing hatred of VC. He said he would sit down with an NVA vet and talk. He said he would cut the throat of Victor Charlie. BTW, he was robbed by four armed men wearing hoodies at his shop. He opened fire. Three ran away. One bled all over the sidewalk and later died in jail from his GSW. Quiet guy. Real bad ass. this is what ive heard more than one vn viet say. they hated the VC, respected the NVA regulars. i guess because the NVA where regular soldiers with uniforms and fought well. you never knew who in a village was vc and they would do ambushes, dig pits with punji sticks, attack and then become 'peaceful villagers'. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:53:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Makarov: Don't know about Vietnam during the 1960s, but stocking fish in rice paddies has been a thing for a long time. The fish eat bugs that can harm the rice crop, as well as mosquito larvae then excrete Nitrogen rich waste which feeds the plants. When the rice is harvested, the fish are a bonus crop. In Nepal, they would add bags with thousands of Shad fry when the fields were flooded. When they were harvested, they were about 2" long and they would dry them whole with a curry powder to preserve them without refrigeration. The smelled awful, they tasted awful and gave you awful breath and BO but they were a great source of cheap protein for people that region. Fascinating. I must admit, after having spent so much time researching and writing about the war, this question never once occurred to me to think about or ask, I'm sorry to say. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 9:00:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ming_The_Merciless: NVA definitely looked down on VC as being more "suspect" (that they may have agents or counter-revolutionaries). NVA troops had been raised in "Communism" since 1954. The Tet offensive in 1968 basically destroyed the fighting abilities of most VC units when they went up in the open against superior US firepower. The offensive was undertaken in the hope of triggering a general uprising, but urban Vietnamese did not respond as the Viet Cong anticipated. About 75,000 communist soldiers were killed or wounded, according to Tr n V n Tr , commander of the "B-2" district, which consisted of southern South Vietnam. "We did not base ourselves on scientific calculation or a careful weighing of all factors, but...on an illusion based on our subjective desires", Tr concluded. Earle G. Wheeler, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, estimated that Tet resulted in 40,000 communist dead (compared to about 10,600 U.S. and South Vietnamese dead). "It is a major irony of the Vietnam War that our propaganda transformed this debacle into a brilliant victory. The truth was that Tet cost us half our forces. Our losses were so immense that we were unable to replace them with new recruits", said PRG Justice Minister Tr ng Nh T ng The VC were massacred wholesale in Tet and as a result and the NVA then took the lead in the war all the way to driving their tanks into the Presidential Palace in Saigon in 1975. Many of the VC have hard feelings about how the NVA treated the VC after Tet & especially after the war (as an nearly unmentioned afterthought). This is correct. The NVA wanted complete control of the war from the beginning, but needed the VC out of the way first. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 10:29:19 PM EDT
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Again, my source is a 'Nam era Ranger, he said they would give the VC an SKS, two 10 round stripper clips of ammo, and a bag of rice about the size of a grapefruit, and send them out into the jungle for two weeks at a time. That was it, nothing more.
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Posted: 5/14/2024 6:55:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By devildog3062: Some here, just last week said rice was shit food and it was often eaten with other food that gave people the need nutrients. So probably no if you were to believe GD Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By devildog3062: Originally Posted By JarheadPatriot: Originally Posted By TontoGoldstein: I know a usmc vet with three VN tours, two on the ground and one in the air as a forward air observer. What he saw has given him a searing hatred of VC. He said he would sit down with an NVA vet and talk. He said he would cut the throat of Victor Charlie. BTW, he was robbed by four armed men wearing hoodies at his shop. He opened fire. Three ran away. One bled all over the sidewalk and later died in jail from his GSW. Quiet guy. Real bad ass. Some here, just last week said rice was shit food and it was often eaten with other food that gave people the need nutrients. So probably no if you were to believe GD I put away a few hundred pounds of Basmati rice in mylar bags in buckets for SHTF. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 7:03:21 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dogsplat: Charlie didn't get much USO. He was dug in too deep or moving too fast. His idea of great R&R was cold rice and a little rat meat. He had only two ways home: death, or victory. Clicked thread expecting to see this; was not disappointed. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 7:09:50 PM EDT
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they also farmed in Laos and other places near the Trail. specifically for the NVA/VC no villages there before for the most part.
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