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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:58:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Federov: It does. It means Putin now has legitimacy to attack a country in Europe Good job frogs. I thought we supported Europeans defending Europe and not Americans. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 2:59:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd341: not to mention that we have units specifically trained to assist situations like this. Not just run hits, but assist with the organization, comms, logistics, targeting all the stuff that makes you successful. From what I know Ukraine is a Green Berets wet dream. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd341: Originally Posted By BillofRights: Does anyone here doubt that Every interested country has operators on the ground in Ukraine? There's a bizarre distinction in the media, between putting "regular troops" into the conflict vs. "special forces". I guess it plays well with the general public. But anyone interested in war, has to know that you don't send systems like Patriot and Stormshadow, without advisors. From what I know Ukraine is a Green Berets wet dream. Exactly. I think we don’t discuss it, because neither side really wants to think about it much. But there’s no way we aren’t personally involved with targeting etc. In addition, our guys have to be Very interested in how each weapon system is performing; Especially, with regard to drones. If we don’t have troops there, it would be criminal negligence. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:00:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Russia hasn't just claimed SOF in Ukraine they've claimed NATO regular officers command Ukraine units - artillery, air defense etc, NATO command centers in Ukraine and NATO pilots https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_3954_jpeg-3206239.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_3953_jpeg-3206240.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_3955_jpeg-3206241.JPG But you have to admit it's a pretty good mission for the right units. Russia can pretty safely claim SOF because...duh...it's pretty obviously a good application. Regular troops as technicians for Patriot...maybe..? Doubt it...but... |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:00:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Master_Shake: Even the guy who wrote the article is indicating the Foreign Legion could have been deployed a month ago. Honestly 100 troops to the front line wouldn't move the needle much or even be as news worthy without the headline Here's a screen shot of his comments instead of my quotes https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/132893/1714930869577328_jpg-3206237.JPG When I make my threads or post 87% of the time I look for multiple well known publicly available sources. I won’t post classified information nor info unavailable to the public. I’ve interacted with journalists / reporters for 20 years during GWOT and most of them are a pain in the ass to deal with. There’s some who work exclusively or primarily on military affairs but 90% of them are just clueless on military matters. The new crop of incoming journalists are especially bad |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:02:06 PM EDT
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Lol.
I went to a yard sale and the seller was some TDS who was moving to France. Literally said he "wanted to get away from Trump." Enjoy getting nuked by Slavics. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:02:55 PM EDT
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Thats not going to end well for Macron if any of them get killed.
The people said they didnt support sending troops. Macron can sit behind a desk and talk smack but he may of done himself out of a jerb. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:02:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillofRights: Exactly. I think we don't discuss it, because neither side really wants to think about it much. But there's no way we aren't personally involved with targeting etc. In addition, our guys have to be Very interested in how each weapon system is performing; Especially, with regard to drones. If we don't have troops there, it would be criminal negligence. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:05:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:05:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BFskinner: If the French are actively shooting at the Russians then the Russians may not feel constrained to keep the shooting back limited to Ukraine. Aren’t the russians/ Wagner causing lots of trouble in Chad and Niger (please)? So it would be payback |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:05:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: The_Master_Shake]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillofRights: Does anyone here doubt that Every interested country has operators on the ground in Ukraine? There’s a bizarre distinction in the media, between putting “regular troops” into the conflict vs. “special forces”. I guess it plays well with the general public. But anyone interested in war, has to know that you don’t send systems like Patriot and Stormshadow, without advisors. I’d be shocked if SAS/SBS isn’t deeply involved. It’s what they do. Britain has made a big commitment, and Putin threatened to sink their Island with nuclear torpedoes. I've seen videos of guys fighting for Russia from Sub-Saharan Africa, Syria, China, Nepal and probably a dozen other countries I'm forgetting. Plenty of mercs from NATO countries fighting for Ukraine, usually even with a patch of their home country flag, but they are technically not mercenaries through some beurocratic gymnastics. Why would France announce they are sending in troops when there are already easy ways to get those guys to the front? Why would they open up a larger conflict for the sake of getting a hundred guys there with hundreds of thousands fighting? The article headline is click bait for what the writer is trying to convey. I'd be surprised if the Cubans didn't have 100 troops somewhere fighting in Ukraine  https://www.reuters.com/world/whatsapp-war-how-cubans-were-recruited-fight-russia-2023-09-30/ |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:07:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd341: I mean it's Russia...so bullshit. But you have to admit it's a pretty good mission for the right units. Russia can pretty safely claim SOF because...duh...it's pretty obviously a good application. Regular troops as technicians for Patriot...maybe..? Doubt it...but... I can opine on a lot of things in GD but like Taiwan I withheld info for 4 years until it was in the news. If it’s open source and available to the public, I usually comment. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:12:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: I can opine on a lot of things in GD but like Taiwan I withheld info for 4 years until it was in the news. If it's open source and available to the public, I usually comment.  |
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USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:25:26 PM EDT
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While I wouldn’t be upset about it.
If this was true it would be headline news across the world. I miss when GD wasn’t the National Enquirer |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:30:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Federov: It does. It means Putin now has legitimacy to attack a country in Europe Good job frogs. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Federov: Originally Posted By jb1001: Does that mean France is at war with Russia? It does. It means Putin now has legitimacy to attack a country in Europe Good job frogs. Ukraine isn’t in Europe? |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:42:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FoxValleyTacDriver]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eolian: Thats not going to end well for Macron if any of them get killed. The people said they didnt support sending troops. Macron can sit behind a desk and talk smack but he may of done himself out of a jerb. Currently only sent foriegn legion. Which are foreigners fighting for france in return for French citizenship. They aren't native Frenchman. A workaround for now I suppose. Macron is also sugaring up president Xi in Paris today. Apparently talking about independence from united states influence. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:51:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: somedude]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jb1001: Does that mean France is at war with Russia? maybe they trying the police action without a formal declaration. I still think its likely just as advisors. but who knows. our advisors did a lot of the fighting in the past. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:51:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: The_Master_Shake]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FoxValleyTacDriver: Currently only sent foriegn legion. Which are foreigners fighting for france in return for French citizenship. They aren't native Frenchman. A workaround for now I suppose. Macron is also sugaring up president Xi in Paris today. Apparently talking about independence from united states influence. Seems france wants a Europe that is free from united states influence. I'm sure there are Foreign Legion fighting but I don't think Macron has officially deployed them. Think that would still be a huge deal if it was official I found this in the comments of the substack article when I was looking info First, the Foreign Legion is definitely a part of Frances regular forces. It is under the very same status as any other unit of the French military, and thus, deploying the Légion is a matter of what operational know-how is necessary, and not a matter of lessening the meaningfulness of an alleged deployment nor seeking a lesser political risk. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:55:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FoxValleyTacDriver: Currently only sent foriegn legion. Which are foreigners fighting for france in return for French citizenship. They aren't native Frenchman. A workaround for now I suppose. Macron is also sugaring up president Xi in Paris today. Apparently talking about independence from united states influence. I believe the officers are mainly French unless they have changed that. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 3:56:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brian01: We should help by flying air defense missions over the eastern part of the country.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 4:01:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: xd341]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FoxValleyTacDriver: Currently only sent foriegn legion. Which are foreigners fighting for france in return for French citizenship. They aren't native Frenchman. A workaround for now I suppose. Macron is also sugaring up president Xi in Paris today. Apparently talking about independence from united states influence. They make the Indians look loyal. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 4:08:02 PM EDT
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Hopefully France also sent FFL to Africa to reclaim the countries Russia took
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Posted: 5/5/2024 4:11:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: astronwolf]
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Here is a recent photo of French troops deployed near Kyiv marching to the front. Note that they are in single-file to hide thier numbers.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 4:20:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jb1001: Does that mean France is at war with Russia? Troops are not French citizens Until after 3 years Or upon being wounded The Legion today is run by French officers but the rank and file are all foreigners. Under the curren anonymat (being anonymous) a volunteer who joins the Legion can decide whether to keep his given name or adopt a new one. Legionnaires serve for three year terms, after which they can ask for French citizenship. If a legionnaire is wounded, he is entitled to gain French citizenship without any waiting period. There are no women in the Foreign Legion. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 4:22:22 PM EDT
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They are going to shit bricks when they get to the front line..
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 4:25:32 PM EDT
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So France is going to get it's ass kicked in Russia?
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Posted: 5/5/2024 4:28:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NachoDip: Further evidence that the world is staged for WW3 |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 4:43:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jb1001: Does that mean France is at war with Russia? It could certainly be interpreted that way. . |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 4:52:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By astronwolf: Here is a recent photo of French troops deployed near Kyiv marching to the front. Note that they are in single-file to hide thier numbers. https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6437d079-e343-44aa-9060-8ac359ced598_1064x900.webp 
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Posted: 5/5/2024 5:04:35 PM EDT
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 The Last Remake Of Beau Geste Trailer 1977 |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 5:04:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FoxValleyTacDriver: Currently only sent foriegn legion. Which are foreigners fighting for france in return for French citizenship. They aren't native Frenchman. A workaround for now I suppose. Macron is also sugaring up president Xi in Paris today. Apparently talking about independence from united states influence. French men can join the Foreign Legion which makes the article in the OP somewhat suspect in my opinion. Can a French join the Foreign Legion? Yes. A French can join the Foreign Legion. He is just going to change his nationality while he is hired to comply with the statutes of the legion. His candidacy is all the more important since it is precisely this Frenchman who will bring his knowledge of the country and the language to foreign hires in addition to the courses provided. https://www.legion-recrute.com/en/faq-frequently-asked-questions#:~:text=The%20Legion%20will%20train%20you,can%20join%20the%20Foreign%20Legion |
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USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 5:06:54 PM EDT
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I would suspect the Foreign Legion has been there since the early days?
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Posted: 5/5/2024 5:07:54 PM EDT
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That is the start of WW3 with a NATO country entering the war.
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Posted: 5/5/2024 5:13:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aaron56: We (the USA) did that long ago...  https://i.imgur.com/h8xHIUE.png We really showed them there Russians didn't we! (Yes, that is an American dude pretending to be a female and actively working to help Ukraine 'appear' to be 'strong' somehow...) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aaron56: Originally Posted By LurchAddams: France has sent its first troops officially to Ukraine. They have been deployed in support of the Ukrainian 54th Independent Mechanized Brigade in Slavyansk. The French soldiers are drawn from France's 3rd Infantry Regiment, which is one of the main elements of France's Foreign Legion (L gion trang re). https://asiatimes.com/2024/05/france-sends-combat-troops-to-ukraine-battlefront/ We (the USA) did that long ago... https://i.imgur.com/h8xHIUE.png We really showed them there Russians didn't we! (Yes, that is an American dude pretending to be a female and actively working to help Ukraine 'appear' to be 'strong' somehow...) Looks like Paul Giamatti with a wig. Like in John Adams.
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Posted: 5/5/2024 6:05:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66: Aren’t the russians/ Wagner causing lots of trouble in Chad and Niger (please)? So it would be payback Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66: Originally Posted By BFskinner: If the French are actively shooting at the Russians then the Russians may not feel constrained to keep the shooting back limited to Ukraine. Aren’t the russians/ Wagner causing lots of trouble in Chad and Niger (please)? So it would be payback It's a much more complex situation.  How Wagner Kicked OUT France From AFRICA |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 6:08:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NachoDip: Further evidence that the world is staged for WW3 We inch closer. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 6:09:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VidaEterna: We inch closer. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VidaEterna: Originally Posted By NachoDip: Further evidence that the world is staged for WW3 We inch closer. The only thing we're inching closer to is Idiocracy. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 6:10:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bohr_Adam: The only thing we're inching closer to is Idiocracy.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 6:15:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Abakan: LOL You folks are so gullible. Indeed.  A five minute Internet search, cross referencing Google, Duck-Duck-Go, Startpage, Brave, Quant, & Bing... There's decent ways to filter this kind of bullshit, even IF you dislike/distrust the Western/U.S. MSM-Left. And it turns out only Tass, and all these weird-ass 3rd world news sites nobody's ever heard of before has the story. And they are all using the identical English text too. I mean, if even Al-Jazeera isn't reporting it, the English, Arabic, or Turkic editions, it isn't real. It's a 99.99% certainty just a Russian Maskarova/FUD/misinformation op, probably in response to Macron being salty/spicy a few days back and refusing to rule out French boots in Ukraine. Which itself is its own FUD/misinformation op. And the sites repeating the story are a mix of direct Russian sock puppets, Putin/Moscow supporters, tiny & mostly automated news aggregators that have zero editorial capacity, people who are not necessarily pro-Moscow but are anti-West, and some that don't care if content is bullshit, and just like whatever clickbait they see. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 6:16:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Flogger23m]
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As I posted in another thread, the reason extends beyond Ukraine. France is being expelled from Africa and replaced by Russia. France still runs a colonial system in Africa which is extremely one sided and beneficial to them. A quote from the article:
The second reason is Macron’s anger at seeing French troops, almost all from the Legion, getting kicked out of Sahelian Africa and replaced by Russians. Control of Francophone Africa, and the riches it provides to French politicians, has been broken by the revolt and revolution in Africa and a decisive tilt to Russia – either directly or through PMC Wagner (the Wagner Group). now clearly under Vladimir Putin’s direct control. This “humiliation” is felt in the Élysée Palace and particularly by Macron who, his opponents say, has lost France’s influence and harmed France’s overseas mining and business interests. France is sending the troops kicked out of Africa, replaced by Russians, to help kill Russians in Ukraine. It is essentially a cold war in Africa. France benefits greatly at gets much cheaper nuclear energy via exploitation of Africa. That may be coming to an end, and France's economy will be hit hard. Where as the rest of Europe gave up colonization, France never did. They just changed some words around and kept it going. |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 6:16:58 PM EDT
[#40]
I suspect that the announcement of France having troops on the ground is a precursor
to the announcement that those troops have surrendered or been captured because they didn't run away fast enough. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 6:36:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/5/2024 6:46:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Why would he care about legitimatacy all of the sudden? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmilingBandit: Originally Posted By Federov: Originally Posted By jb1001: Does that mean France is at war with Russia? It does. It means Putin now has legitimacy to attack a country in Europe Good job frogs. Why would he care about legitimatacy all of the sudden?  Attached File |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 6:49:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NachoDip: Further evidence that the world is staged for WW3 
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USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 6:49:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: Asia times... Underground alien bases. Chemtrails. Now we've got the VERY foreign legion in Ukraine  This. Anyone have a better source for this? |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 6:49:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BFskinner: If the French are actively shooting at the Russians then the Russians may not feel constrained to keep the shooting back limited to Ukraine. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 6:52:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: Wow. So perceptive. Do you think they might threaten to use nukes on us again? Well, it will be the 2,475th time they have since the whole Ukraine thing fired up |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 6:53:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DeltaV42: How would that work though... To attack France, they'd have to go over Germany and Poland. If they haven't done anything to initiate conflict, would Russia attacking France thru their space count as enough of an attack to invoke article 5? I'm assuming the Russians don't have it together enough to actually sneak a sub off the coast of France. There's a lot of nations they'd have to get past first without being tracked. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DeltaV42: Originally Posted By DragoMuseveni: And Article 5 will not apply because France started it. How would that work though... To attack France, they'd have to go over Germany and Poland. If they haven't done anything to initiate conflict, would Russia attacking France thru their space count as enough of an attack to invoke article 5? I'm assuming the Russians don't have it together enough to actually sneak a sub off the coast of France. There's a lot of nations they'd have to get past first without being tracked. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 6:56:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOTHERmaninblack: Officially, it won't be the French, since Frenchmen aren't technically allowed in the Legion. Think of them as Wagner, but with cheese and baguettes. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOTHERmaninblack: Originally Posted By BFskinner: If the French are actively shooting at the Russians then the Russians may not feel constrained to keep the shooting back limited to Ukraine. And the French have SSBNs so it’s not like the Russians are going to start chucking Kh-101s at Paris. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 6:58:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shockergd: The intelligence of people on here is been a massive decline over about the past 8 years. As long as there's a link to a website people will believe literally anything. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shockergd: Originally Posted By Abakan: LOL You folks are so gullible. The intelligence of people on here is been a massive decline over about the past 8 years. As long as there's a link to a website people will believe literally anything.
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Posted: 5/5/2024 6:59:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bohr_Adam: The only thing we're inching closer to is Idiocracy. 
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