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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 1:55:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brutus_15: I wonder if the driver is an employee or an independent contractor. Vicarious liability becomes a little tougher if they are an independent contractor. Think you’d have to prove he was a known shitbag before hiring. Is he a licensed contractor? Or just an employee who has a car? |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 1:56:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fullautoguy: If they are like Uber or Lyft they will have done at minimum a motor vehicle check and a simple background check. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 1:57:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By timeless: The driver must have had extremely low impulse control. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 1:59:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LeadRX: It happened last night, I'm making no promises but I'll do my best to get a copy. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:00:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: fike]
[#5]
@LeadRX
How did you find out about this and see the vid? |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:02:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dopple]
[#6]
This is also a lesson to never confront someone unarmed and be willing to protect your life.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:05:25 PM EDT
[#7]
An apology email?
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:09:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMiller: Fortunately his identity can be easily established--is this a location where law enforcement will take it seriously? Hopefully he's dumb enough to keep the phone he used with Instacart so they can find it (and presumably him) with it. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:11:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher214: She learned an important lesson about talking shit. Some people walk around hoping for an opportunity to commit violence. kinda looks like the hoodrat started it. too bad she didn't have a rose to give him🤷 he'll get his,they always do. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:16:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher214: She learned an important lesson about talking shit. Some people walk around hoping for an opportunity to commit violence. It's so fucking crazy how many women are dumb enough to talk shit to/insult men they do not know. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:19:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alc1343: It's so fucking crazy how many women are dumb enough to talk shit to/insult men they do not know. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alc1343: Originally Posted By Cypher214: She learned an important lesson about talking shit. Some people walk around hoping for an opportunity to commit violence. It's so fucking crazy how many women are dumb enough to talk shit to/insult men they do not know. They do until they come across an animal who's willing to hurt or kill a person with zero regard for their gender, age, or size. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:22:21 PM EDT
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Have her post the video on YouTube. "Instacart shopper attempts to kill me" that will get their attention.
Go to local news |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:25:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Taom: An apology email? Seems to me that could be important. You don't apologize for things you aren't responsible for. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:29:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher214: She learned an important lesson about talking shit. Some people walk around hoping for an opportunity to commit violence. And about getting her own groceries. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:31:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Taom: An apology email? |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:33:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LeadRX: The dude delivered 6 bags of groceries to the wrong address, apparently her house is easily confused with her neighbors, when she went to get them the guy was leaving and she told him it was the wrong address. He didn’t take kindly to that and called her a stupid bitch and she said something along the lines of “get a real job asshole”, then he proceeded to try to run her over and beat the shit out of her. She has a concussion, severely bruised face, and two cracked ribs from him kicking her while she was unconscious. ETA: this happened in Waterbury. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LeadRX: Originally Posted By burnka871: Wtf Was the driver ...disrespected perhaps? The dude delivered 6 bags of groceries to the wrong address, apparently her house is easily confused with her neighbors, when she went to get them the guy was leaving and she told him it was the wrong address. He didn’t take kindly to that and called her a stupid bitch and she said something along the lines of “get a real job asshole”, then he proceeded to try to run her over and beat the shit out of her. She has a concussion, severely bruised face, and two cracked ribs from him kicking her while she was unconscious. ETA: this happened in Waterbury. Sounds like she got a huge cup of equality in the fuck around and find out. Don’t shit on people who have absolutely nothing to lose. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:36:02 PM EDT
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So she clearly disrespected him??? Case closed.
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LA, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:36:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By midcap: If you were in Louisiana I'd have the right guy for you @midcap Gordan McKernan!!!!!!! Or Morris Bart lol |
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AR, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:42:33 PM EDT
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I know it won't be a popular opinion, but I think it's stupid to hold businesses financially accountable for employees actions. How the fuck can they predict human insane behavior.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:43:20 PM EDT
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Go to the press. Make noise about it, make instacart look bad.
Post the hell out of the footage in social media, make it go viral. The goal is to get more public sympathizers. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:45:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless: Hire a lawyer? Hire a lawyer asap... and for the cops it shouldn't take long at all to ID the suspect. They just need to contact Instacart, boom they got a name and security camera footage to verify. Sounds easy peasy, they may only need a lawyer to motivate them. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:49:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SamuelAdams1776: Is he a licensed contractor? I don't think he was there to fix the HVAC. 
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:49:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LeadRX: What kind of lawyer should she call? A personal injury attorney? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LeadRX: Originally Posted By LoBrau: Probably by talking to a lawyer. An apology email? I kind of want to read it, what could they possibly say? What kind of lawyer should she call? A personal injury attorney? Yep, Edgar Snyder in these parts "no cost unless we get money for you" |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:49:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless: Hire a lawyer? This. Don't say a word to Instacart. Don't take any gifts from them. Screenshot everything. Get paid |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:52:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gator: Hire a lawyer asap... and for the cops it shouldn't take long at all to ID the suspect. They just need to contact Instacart, boom they got a name and security camera footage to verify. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gator: Originally Posted By Aimless: Hire a lawyer? Hire a lawyer asap... and for the cops it shouldn't take long at all to ID the suspect. They just need to contact Instacart, boom they got a name and security camera footage to verify. Maybe. I've had more than a few deliveries where the name on Door Dash, etc was female and the person delivering was some dude. Security cam from the grocery store should be clear enough even if he was using someone else's name/account. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:53:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LeadRX: What kind of attorney should she get? https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=texas+law+hawk+commercial&mkr=15&ei=UTF-8&fr2=p%3Afp%2Cm%3Asa%2Cct%3Asa%2Ckt%3Anone&_tsrc=yfp-hrmob-s&fp=1&hspart=att&hsimp=yhs-att_001&type=sbc_dsl_mobile |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:54:22 PM EDT
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I’d be more concerned with the guy getting arrested than looking for a pay day
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:57:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NCPatrolAR: I’d be more concerned with the guy getting arrested than looking for a pay day It's arfcom, get both  |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:57:30 PM EDT
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Well, I'd say she learned a valuable cultural lesson about shit-talking potentially unstable individuals people with marginal employment prospects.
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USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:59:43 PM EDT
[#30]
She's gonna get paid for that ass whoopin.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 3:00:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chmodx: He was there operating under IC and at the wrong location, she didn't order anything. What are we missing? Uber gets sued all the time for conduct of its drivers. Similar situation here Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chmodx: Originally Posted By QwikKotaTx: Originally Posted By chmodx: Instacart will owe some sort of liability in this as the lady didn't order or have any contractual agreement with them. He showed up at the wrong place, if she insulted him back so what. That's protected speech and based on what we know doesn't warrant violence. Guy was there on IC's operating service, and at the location negligently as it was an incorrect destination. IC will pay something on this He was there operating under IC and at the wrong location, she didn't order anything. What are we missing? Uber gets sued all the time for conduct of its drivers. Similar situation here She ordered the groceries. The groceries got delivered to the next door neighbor. She went to retrieve the groceries while the driver was still there. You have it backwards. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 3:12:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LoBrau: She ordered the groceries. The groceries got delivered to the next door neighbor. She went to retrieve the groceries while the driver was still there. You have it backwards. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LoBrau: Originally Posted By chmodx: Originally Posted By QwikKotaTx: Originally Posted By chmodx: Instacart will owe some sort of liability in this as the lady didn't order or have any contractual agreement with them. He showed up at the wrong place, if she insulted him back so what. That's protected speech and based on what we know doesn't warrant violence. Guy was there on IC's operating service, and at the location negligently as it was an incorrect destination. IC will pay something on this He was there operating under IC and at the wrong location, she didn't order anything. What are we missing? Uber gets sued all the time for conduct of its drivers. Similar situation here She ordered the groceries. The groceries got delivered to the next door neighbor. She went to retrieve the groceries while the driver was still there. You have it backwards. You're right. I misread the op's reply on the first page. I am backwards on this. Apologies! |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 3:22:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LeadRX: Man, I’m so pissed about this, my co-worker is a petite little lady, all I can imagine is this kind of shit happening to my wife. Though if it did, the last thing I would be looking for is a lawyer, well maybe a criminal defense one… While the gal didn't deserve to be assaulted I hope your wife is smart enough to not get onto a verbal confrontation with an anyone let alone the likely individual in question. You may wanna have that conversation |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 3:24:57 PM EDT
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She wont have to work anymore, tell her goodbye for us and enjoy retirement.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 3:25:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Calculating: I know it won't be a popular opinion, but I think it's stupid to hold businesses financially accountable for employees actions. How the fuck can they predict human insane behavior. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 3:26:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Imzadi: The website took the money. The website picked the driver. The website paid the driver. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Imzadi: Originally Posted By DoctorCAD: I'd bet that she isn't getting anything from Instacart. They aren't the drivers employer, they are just a website . The driver is 109% responsible. The website took the money. The website picked the driver. The website paid the driver. If the guy ends up having a violent criminal record once identified, I imagine it might be relevant. IANAL |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 3:27:22 PM EDT
[#37]
Must have been some disrespec.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 3:27:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: juan223]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CouncilOfDave: My question is did the website run a criminal background check. If the guy ends up having a violent criminal record once identified, I imagine it might be relevant. IANAL Probably not alowed to anymore with all the ESG/DEI lest me continue to marginalize "justice involved" persons.. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 3:29:14 PM EDT
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holy shit, that's crazy
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AK, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 3:33:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CouncilOfDave: My question is did the website run a criminal background check. If the guy ends up having a violent criminal record once identified, I imagine it might be relevant. IANAL Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CouncilOfDave: Originally Posted By Imzadi: Originally Posted By DoctorCAD: I'd bet that she isn't getting anything from Instacart. They aren't the drivers employer, they are just a website . The driver is 109% responsible. The website took the money. The website picked the driver. The website paid the driver. If the guy ends up having a violent criminal record once identified, I imagine it might be relevant. IANAL If they did. They're probably on the list of employers that hires felons anyways. Sounds like it's not fully known here. But a number of businesses are willing to hire felons as long as they are honest about their past. Part of the process of getting people rehabilitated I suppose. Ironically enough though. The list of what employers would was kept somewhat secret. Wouldn't want it to get out that you're willing to put criminals on the payroll. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 3:36:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By juan223: Probably not alowed to anymore with all the ESG/DEI lest me continue to marginalize "justice involved" persons.. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By juan223: Originally Posted By CouncilOfDave: My question is did the website run a criminal background check. If the guy ends up having a violent criminal record once identified, I imagine it might be relevant. IANAL Probably not alowed to anymore with all the ESG/DEI lest me continue to marginalize "justice involved" persons..  I had to have a background and drug screen, and don't go to customers homes, so it would be pretty wild from my perspective NOT to have done a background check. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 3:38:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CouncilOfDave]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bacon_Grease: If they did. They're probably on the list of employers that hires felons anyways. Sounds like it's not fully known here. But a number of businesses are willing to hire felons as long as they are honest about their past. Part of the process of getting people rehabilitated I suppose. Ironically enough though. The list of what employers would was kept somewhat secret. Wouldn't want it to get out that you're willing to put criminals on the payroll. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bacon_Grease: Originally Posted By CouncilOfDave: Originally Posted By Imzadi: Originally Posted By DoctorCAD: I'd bet that she isn't getting anything from Instacart. They aren't the drivers employer, they are just a website . The driver is 109% responsible. The website took the money. The website picked the driver. The website paid the driver. If the guy ends up having a violent criminal record once identified, I imagine it might be relevant. IANAL If they did. They're probably on the list of employers that hires felons anyways. Sounds like it's not fully known here. But a number of businesses are willing to hire felons as long as they are honest about their past. Part of the process of getting people rehabilitated I suppose. Ironically enough though. The list of what employers would was kept somewhat secret. Wouldn't want it to get out that you're willing to put criminals on the payroll. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 3:41:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOldRepublic: Have her post the video on YouTube. "Instacart shopper attempts to kill me" that will get their attention. Go to local news There’s a possibility the video isn’t as helpful to the victim as one might hope. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 3:43:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jsnappa: There’s a possibility the video isn’t as helpful to the victim as one might hope. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jsnappa: Originally Posted By TheOldRepublic: Have her post the video on YouTube. "Instacart shopper attempts to kill me" that will get their attention. Go to local news There’s a possibility the video isn’t as helpful to the victim as one might hope. And there is a possibility this is all bullshit. |
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NH, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 3:44:24 PM EDT
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At what point do her friends find this guy outside the public eye and beat the shit out of him.
I worked with a guy whose sister got drunk and rapid at a party. When he found out, him and three friends hunted him down. During the chase the guy ran to a house and pounded on the door to be let in. The people inside watched as they dragged him over to the tracks and beat him nearly to death. I was happy to hear how it ended. We need more of this justice. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 3:46:03 PM EDT
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Just call The Texas Hammer
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 3:46:53 PM EDT
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Just wait until you guys find out who works for your roofing company, moving company, landscaping crew, painters, etc.
There is a severe labor shortage in this FJB economy. Companies are desperate to hire any warm body. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 3:49:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Calculating: I know it won't be a popular opinion, but I think it's stupid to hold businesses financially accountable for employees actions. How the fuck can they predict human insane behavior. Accountability is what drives people and companies to make smart choices and insane human behavior is predictable to some degree. That's why companies do background checks and drug screenings. They wouldn't do that if there wasn't some actionable correlation with behavior/performance that is going to be detrimental to the company. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 3:52:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JVD]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eight_Ring: Well, I'd say she learned a valuable cultural lesson about shit-talking potentially unstable individuals people with marginal employment prospects. If someone can't handle being told they are a piece of shit, while being a piece of shit, without getting all violent they deserve an 8000mg dose of lead to the head. So does anyone that supports that violent aggressor. And anyone that supports those people. The lesson should be carry. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 3:54:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CavScout: She wont have to work anymore, tell her goodbye for us and enjoy retirement. I love reading about the fantasy world you guys live in with regards to lawsuits. If you all quit spending all your time trying to get out of jury duty or talking about jury nullification you might see how civil court usually plays out. |
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