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I feel like I should go out on our property to look now. I specifically remember a ton of chestnuts when I was a kid.
We had selective logging done the other year. They took some expensive rare stuff, hopefully there were no chestnuts. Too bad I can't even identify poison |
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Originally Posted By Into_the_Void: I feel like I should go out on our property to look now. I specifically remember a ton of chestnuts when I was a kid. We had selective logging done the other year. They took some expensive rare stuff, hopefully there were no chestnuts. Too bad I can't even identify poison View Quote Leaves of three, leave it be. Or something like that. |
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Originally Posted By bkpkr: Leaves of three, leave it be. Or something like that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bkpkr: Originally Posted By Into_the_Void: I feel like I should go out on our property to look now. I specifically remember a ton of chestnuts when I was a kid. We had selective logging done the other year. They took some expensive rare stuff, hopefully there were no chestnuts. Too bad I can't even identify poison Leaves of three, leave it be. Or something like that. Chestnut leaves look like poison to me lol |
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Would definitely be interested in buying some nuts if OP goes that route.
My FIL use to have two huge American Chestnut trees in his back yard and kept me in ample supply. They died a few years ago and I’ve been beholden to buying them. Would love to get a few started in my back yard. |
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Originally Posted By trails-end: Originally Posted By MaxxII: Originally Posted By trails-end: Poison Ivy: I have a surveyor friend that gets it bad. He was buying a little bottle of liquid that he drank each month that kept him from getting it. He did some research and determined the liquid was extracted from the plant. Upon further research he found that people eat it to stay immune. He started doing that and hasn't broken out since. He said he gets the young leaves off the plant and swallows it with water. I haven't seen him do it, but he's not one to tell a story. My immunity seems to be fading, I just got over a little rash, but it's not bad enough to chance eating it yet. @trails-end What is this liquid your friend was drinking? @MaxxII Oral Ivy Thank you for that. I have ordered some. Back to American Chestnut trees… Unfortunately, like another poster, I live on a clay hill outside their native range. Hopefully the seeds you guys are passing around will grow into large healthy trees in time. |
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Still nothing coming up from my seeds. I know it's early but I can't wait.
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Originally Posted By p3590:
You cannot feed the Virginians an entire case of malort at once. A pint to sip in the parking garage outside the VA Supreme Court is safe. With a case, they're going to pull up the 1609 map |
We now have 8 seedlings thanks to this thread.
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Originally Posted By p3590:
You cannot feed the Virginians an entire case of malort at once. A pint to sip in the parking garage outside the VA Supreme Court is safe. With a case, they're going to pull up the 1609 map |
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Originally Posted By ZW17: An American chestnut seed from Washington State was born in Ohio yesterday. Hopefully there will be more to help start the repopulation of this great tree. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36030/IMG_3076-3211454.jpg View Quote Awesome! I found some oaks that have sprouted and transplanted them into pots yesterday. Nothing from my chestnuts yet. Ugh. The wait is killing me. |
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Originally Posted By ZW17: An American chestnut seed from Washington State was born in Ohio yesterday. Hopefully there will be more to help start the repopulation of this great tree. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36030/IMG_3076-3211454.jpg View Quote Talk to me folks!!!! |
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Originally Posted By Merlin: I ordered five seedlings - see previous page - and I have no forking clue what to do with them when they get here. Talk to me folks!!!! View Quote Same. What I did is kept them in the fridge as is recommended. When I planted them, the soil is supposed to be acidic (according to the website). If you go back a few pages I asked this specific question and got some good answers. I ended up putting mine in Maricle Grow. It looks like it evens out to all of what I have researched. Mine will stay in pots for a few years. If they grow. |
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Originally Posted By ZW17: The seeds I received had already gone through the refrigerated part, but I put them in a fridge for another week. I put them in a Tupperware container with starter soil and kept them there for two weeks, outside in the full sun, lightly watering every week. They started by sending out the tap root. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36030/IMG_2971-3200547.jpg Once the tap root poked out we transplanted them into 12” deep tree planters using miracle grow all purpose bagged soil from HD. When you transplant, point the tap root down. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36030/IMG_3078-3211615.jpg Now they are just beginning to daylight. Let the soil dry between waterings. It’s pretty simple. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36030/IMG_3079-3211616.jpg View Quote High five. |
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Originally Posted By ZW17: The seeds I received had already gone through the refrigerated part, but I put them in a fridge for another week. I put them in a Tupperware container with starter soil and kept them there for two weeks, outside in the full sun, lightly watering every week. They started by sending out the tap root. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36030/IMG_2971-3200547.jpg Once the tap root poked out we transplanted them into 12" deep tree planters using miracle grow all purpose bagged soil from HD. When you transplant, point the tap root down. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36030/IMG_3078-3211615.jpg Now they are just beginning to daylight. Let the soil dry between waterings. It's pretty simple. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36030/IMG_3079-3211616.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ZW17: Originally Posted By USMARINE1108: Awesome! I found some oaks that have sprouted and transplanted them into pots yesterday. Nothing from my chestnuts yet. Ugh. The wait is killing me. The seeds I received had already gone through the refrigerated part, but I put them in a fridge for another week. I put them in a Tupperware container with starter soil and kept them there for two weeks, outside in the full sun, lightly watering every week. They started by sending out the tap root. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36030/IMG_2971-3200547.jpg Once the tap root poked out we transplanted them into 12" deep tree planters using miracle grow all purpose bagged soil from HD. When you transplant, point the tap root down. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36030/IMG_3078-3211615.jpg Now they are just beginning to daylight. Let the soil dry between waterings. It's pretty simple. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36030/IMG_3079-3211616.jpg |
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going to cut samples and send them off this week, assuming work doesn't kick my ass again.
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Originally Posted By ZW17: The seeds I received had already gone through the refrigerated part, but I put them in a fridge for another week. I put them in a Tupperware container with starter soil and kept them there for two weeks, outside in the full sun, lightly watering every week. They started by sending out the tap root. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36030/IMG_2971-3200547.jpg Once the tap root poked out we transplanted them into 12” deep tree planters using miracle grow all purpose bagged soil from HD. When you transplant, point the tap root down. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36030/IMG_3078-3211615.jpg Now they are just beginning to daylight. Let the soil dry between waterings. It’s pretty simple. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36030/IMG_3079-3211616.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ZW17: Originally Posted By USMARINE1108: Awesome! I found some oaks that have sprouted and transplanted them into pots yesterday. Nothing from my chestnuts yet. Ugh. The wait is killing me. The seeds I received had already gone through the refrigerated part, but I put them in a fridge for another week. I put them in a Tupperware container with starter soil and kept them there for two weeks, outside in the full sun, lightly watering every week. They started by sending out the tap root. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36030/IMG_2971-3200547.jpg Once the tap root poked out we transplanted them into 12” deep tree planters using miracle grow all purpose bagged soil from HD. When you transplant, point the tap root down. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36030/IMG_3078-3211615.jpg Now they are just beginning to daylight. Let the soil dry between waterings. It’s pretty simple. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36030/IMG_3079-3211616.jpg Dude the view at your house is gorgeous |
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Originally Posted By p3590:
You cannot feed the Virginians an entire case of malort at once. A pint to sip in the parking garage outside the VA Supreme Court is safe. With a case, they're going to pull up the 1609 map |
Due to the epic nature of this thread I prevented it from being archived.
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Originally Posted By ZW17: Thanks man. It’s way up on a hill looking over a valley of Amish farms. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36030/25D61B4C-4E5A-4AB4-AA38-DB8A944A3C52-1495813.jpg View Quote Beautiful. |
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Originally Posted By ZW17: Update on the AC sprouts… Almost all of the 29 or so seeds have daylighted. Some are taking off like a weed. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36030/IMG_3119-3214557.jpg View Quote It's crazy how fast they grow. I got two. I don't think one is gonna make it, but the one I posted earlier keeps leafing and growing. GD WILL have a hand in reintroducing the American Chesnut and it will be awesome |
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Originally Posted By p3590:
You cannot feed the Virginians an entire case of malort at once. A pint to sip in the parking garage outside the VA Supreme Court is safe. With a case, they're going to pull up the 1609 map |
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: It's crazy how fast they grow. I got two. I don't think one is gonna make it, but the one I posted earlier keeps leafing and growing. GD WILL have a hand in reintroducing the American Chesnut and it will be awesome View Quote I’m glad to take part in helping. It’s such an iconic tree. Merica’ Chestnut. |
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Originally Posted By ZW17: I’m glad to take part in helping. It’s such an iconic tree. Merica’ Chestnut. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ZW17: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: It's crazy how fast they grow. I got two. I don't think one is gonna make it, but the one I posted earlier keeps leafing and growing. GD WILL have a hand in reintroducing the American Chesnut and it will be awesome I’m glad to take part in helping. It’s such an iconic tree. Merica’ Chestnut. Yeah man, I'm really happy it's getting some traction here. Keep in mind the Pine Tree Flag was legit over Brits stealing our best trees for shipbuilding. The American Chesnut is something that was awesome for everyone, especially Appalachia. Good food for animals, good wood for construction, good wood for burning, and beautiful trees. It's a fantastic tree. The only one that's even on my radar for cool tree would be the Aspen. It's basically one network of trees which is so fucking cool |
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Originally Posted By p3590:
You cannot feed the Virginians an entire case of malort at once. A pint to sip in the parking garage outside the VA Supreme Court is safe. With a case, they're going to pull up the 1609 map |
Originally Posted By ZW17: Update on the AC sprouts… Almost all of the 29 or so seeds have daylighted. Some are taking off like a weed. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/36030/IMG_3119-3214557.jpg View Quote How long did it take? I haven't pulled mine out yet to see if they have rooted yet. I don't want to mess with them. |
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What is a democrat? Someone who wants everything you have, except for your job.
Politicians should wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers so we could see their corporate sponsors. |
Did OP ever start a new thread for his seeds? I didn't see in this thread, but did get on a notify list for one of the seed websites. We have a greenhouse where we can start them, let them get a good size and then transplant.
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Originally Posted By BMSMB: I was planning on getting a few to grow in north Idaho... but apparently they like we'll draining soil, and I'm on a hilltop that's basically pure clay as deep as my well :/ View Quote An old Forester told me "trees don't just grow where its ideal they grow anywhere they can get away with it." Its worth a try, I've seen trees all over where they officially weren't supposed to be able to grow. |
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Originally Posted By PKT1106: Did OP ever start a new thread for his seeds? I didn't see in this thread, but did get on a notify list for one of the seed websites. We have a greenhouse where we can start them, let them get a good size and then transplant. View Quote @PKT1106 Im sending leaves off for official ID in the next few days. Based on the pics posted and two plant ID apps it is likely my tree is a real surviving American chestnut, and my in-laws younger (but still big) two are European chestnuts. Any seeds / nuts would be in the fall and likely American / European hybrids. That being said, I probably will do a thread in the fall and just make it clear that trees grown from those nuts are likely hybrids. |
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Originally Posted By governmentman: @PKT1106 Im sending leaves off for official ID in the next few days. Based on the pics posted and two plant ID apps it is likely my tree is a real surviving American chestnut, and my in-laws younger (but still big) two are European chestnuts. Any seeds / nuts would be in the fall and likely American / European hybrids. That being said, I probably will do a thread in the fall and just make it clear that trees grown from those nuts are likely hybrids. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By governmentman: Originally Posted By PKT1106: Did OP ever start a new thread for his seeds? I didn't see in this thread, but did get on a notify list for one of the seed websites. We have a greenhouse where we can start them, let them get a good size and then transplant. @PKT1106 Im sending leaves off for official ID in the next few days. Based on the pics posted and two plant ID apps it is likely my tree is a real surviving American chestnut, and my in-laws younger (but still big) two are European chestnuts. Any seeds / nuts would be in the fall and likely American / European hybrids. That being said, I probably will do a thread in the fall and just make it clear that trees grown from those nuts are likely hybrids. 10-4, thank you. Looking forward to the results for you. |
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Chief River got more seedlings in
https://chiefrivernursery.com/american-chestnut-castanea-dentata-seedlings.html @Mpisi @ZW17 |
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Originally Posted By p3590:
You cannot feed the Virginians an entire case of malort at once. A pint to sip in the parking garage outside the VA Supreme Court is safe. With a case, they're going to pull up the 1609 map |
Originally Posted By p3590:
You cannot feed the Virginians an entire case of malort at once. A pint to sip in the parking garage outside the VA Supreme Court is safe. With a case, they're going to pull up the 1609 map |
Originally Posted By PKT1106: Did OP ever start a new thread for his seeds? I didn't see in this thread, but did get on a notify list for one of the seed websites. We have a greenhouse where we can start them, let them get a good size and then transplant. View Quote "Can american chestnut self pollinate The American chestnut tree is monoecious, meaning it has both male and female flowers on the same tree. However, it is not capable of self-pollination. According to the search results, the tree's flowers are protogynous, meaning the stigma is receptive to pollination before the pollen is shed from the anther of the same flower or tree. This requires cross-pollination, which is typically facilitated by wind or insects. AI-generated answer." |
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The two bare root 6' trees my wife bought and I planted are starting to show signs of life. I need to run drip tubing to them so I can stop hand watering.
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Chief River got more seedlings in https://chiefrivernursery.com/american-chestnut-castanea-dentata-seedlings.html @Mpisi @ZW17 View Quote Interesting......I may have to Plant Type: Dormant, bare-root Zones: 4-8 Soil Type: Clay, Loamy & Sandy Soils Site Selection: Full Sun Mature Height & Width: 60-80' Height and 30-40' Spread Growth Rate: Moderate/Fast - 12-24+" per year once established Moisture Requirements: Average soils Attached File |
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"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
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Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Chief River got more seedlings in https://chiefrivernursery.com/american-chestnut-castanea-dentata-seedlings.html @Mpisi @ZW17 View Quote Sweet brother thanks. I’m tapped out with the 20 something I have at the moment, but I will seed and plant again next year. |
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What is a democrat? Someone who wants everything you have, except for your job.
Politicians should wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers so we could see their corporate sponsors. |
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Originally Posted By 2tired2run: Interesting......I may have to Plant Type: Dormant, bare-root Zones: 4-8 Soil Type: Clay, Loamy & Sandy Soils Site Selection: Full Sun Mature Height & Width: 60-80' Height and 30-40' Spread Growth Rate: Moderate/Fast - 12-24+" per year once established Moisture Requirements: Average soils https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/67501/plant_zones_JPG-3215928.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 2tired2run: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Chief River got more seedlings in https://chiefrivernursery.com/american-chestnut-castanea-dentata-seedlings.html @Mpisi @ZW17 Interesting......I may have to Plant Type: Dormant, bare-root Zones: 4-8 Soil Type: Clay, Loamy & Sandy Soils Site Selection: Full Sun Mature Height & Width: 60-80' Height and 30-40' Spread Growth Rate: Moderate/Fast - 12-24+" per year once established Moisture Requirements: Average soils https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/67501/plant_zones_JPG-3215928.JPG I have to call BS on that map. -25°F is not a "normal" low in central Illinois. That would be a record breaking temperature. I am in northern IL and we were in the -20°F - 22°F range several years ago and records were set. I was up in Eagle River, WI probably 15 years ago or so and it was -23°F and if records weren't being set it was really close. The good news, the snowmobiles fired up just fine that morning. |
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Originally Posted By not_sure: I have to call BS on that map. -25 F is not a "normal" low in central Illinois. That would be a record breaking temperature. I am in northern IL and we were in the -20 F - 22 F range several years ago and records were set. I was up in Eagle River, WI probably 15 years ago or so and it was -23 F and if records weren't being set it was really close. The good news, the snowmobiles fired up just fine that morning. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By not_sure: Originally Posted By 2tired2run: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Chief River got more seedlings in https://chiefrivernursery.com/american-chestnut-castanea-dentata-seedlings.html @Mpisi @ZW17 Interesting......I may have to Plant Type: Dormant, bare-root Zones: 4-8 Soil Type: Clay, Loamy & Sandy Soils Site Selection: Full Sun Mature Height & Width: 60-80' Height and 30-40' Spread Growth Rate: Moderate/Fast - 12-24+" per year once established Moisture Requirements: Average soils https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/67501/plant_zones_JPG-3215928.JPG I have to call BS on that map. -25 F is not a "normal" low in central Illinois. That would be a record breaking temperature. I am in northern IL and we were in the -20 F - 22 F range several years ago and records were set. I was up in Eagle River, WI probably 15 years ago or so and it was -23 F and if records weren't being set it was really close. The good news, the snowmobiles fired up just fine that morning. That's based off of a lowest temp over 20 or 30 years if I'm not mistaken? I remember when it was -15 here some years ago. I'm pretty far south, but I think the all time record low for my area might be -20 or lower. |
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Originally Posted By killingmachine123: That's based off of a lowest temp over 20 or 30 years if I'm not mistaken? I remember when it was -15 here some years ago. I'm pretty far south, but I think the all time record low for my area might be -20 or lower. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By killingmachine123: Originally Posted By not_sure: Originally Posted By 2tired2run: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Chief River got more seedlings in https://chiefrivernursery.com/american-chestnut-castanea-dentata-seedlings.html @Mpisi @ZW17 Interesting......I may have to Plant Type: Dormant, bare-root Zones: 4-8 Soil Type: Clay, Loamy & Sandy Soils Site Selection: Full Sun Mature Height & Width: 60-80' Height and 30-40' Spread Growth Rate: Moderate/Fast - 12-24+" per year once established Moisture Requirements: Average soils https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/67501/plant_zones_JPG-3215928.JPG I have to call BS on that map. -25 F is not a "normal" low in central Illinois. That would be a record breaking temperature. I am in northern IL and we were in the -20 F - 22 F range several years ago and records were set. I was up in Eagle River, WI probably 15 years ago or so and it was -23 F and if records weren't being set it was really close. The good news, the snowmobiles fired up just fine that morning. That's based off of a lowest temp over 20 or 30 years if I'm not mistaken? I remember when it was -15 here some years ago. I'm pretty far south, but I think the all time record low for my area might be -20 or lower. It says lowest average annual temperature. I interpret it as they take the lowest temperature of the year and then average those. |
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I would love to order some new chestnut seeds, but aren't all of the available ones hybrids?
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Originally Posted By Jayne_Cobb: I would love to order some new chestnut seeds, but aren't all of the available ones hybrids? View Quote https://store.experimentalfarmnetwork.org/products/american-chestnut?variant=42663267958837 |
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What is a democrat? Someone who wants everything you have, except for your job.
Politicians should wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers so we could see their corporate sponsors. |
Originally Posted By p3590:
You cannot feed the Virginians an entire case of malort at once. A pint to sip in the parking garage outside the VA Supreme Court is safe. With a case, they're going to pull up the 1609 map |
One of my chestnuts has a leaf that is almost ready to unfurl. The other is taking its sweet time.
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Originally Posted By not_sure: It says lowest average annual temperature. I interpret it as they take the lowest temperature of the year and then average those. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By not_sure: Originally Posted By killingmachine123: Originally Posted By not_sure: Originally Posted By 2tired2run: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Chief River got more seedlings in https://chiefrivernursery.com/american-chestnut-castanea-dentata-seedlings.html @Mpisi @ZW17 Interesting......I may have to Plant Type: Dormant, bare-root Zones: 4-8 Soil Type: Clay, Loamy & Sandy Soils Site Selection: Full Sun Mature Height & Width: 60-80' Height and 30-40' Spread Growth Rate: Moderate/Fast - 12-24+" per year once established Moisture Requirements: Average soils https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/67501/plant_zones_JPG-3215928.JPG I have to call BS on that map. -25 F is not a "normal" low in central Illinois. That would be a record breaking temperature. I am in northern IL and we were in the -20 F - 22 F range several years ago and records were set. I was up in Eagle River, WI probably 15 years ago or so and it was -23 F and if records weren't being set it was really close. The good news, the snowmobiles fired up just fine that morning. That's based off of a lowest temp over 20 or 30 years if I'm not mistaken? I remember when it was -15 here some years ago. I'm pretty far south, but I think the all time record low for my area might be -20 or lower. It says lowest average annual temperature. I interpret it as they take the lowest temperature of the year and then average those. Yes - the term gets used different ways but for this it is the average of the lowest temperatures per year. And, that map kind of does suck. Here's a better one: |
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I spent every evening for most of the last week watering my new 1 year old chestnut seedlings, it takes about 2 hours to get all 75 of them watered. I can't water them through the irrigation system because it would feed too much out to the other 620 trees in the chestnut orchard. New seedlings need alot of attention, I can't imagine planting some out this late in the year, they will have a hard time getting the roots established before the heat of the summer but it is doable. Now I am fighting a infestation of winter moth caterpillars eating away my leaves. It's all fun and games untill it is not. Attached File
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Grammer Nazis be dammed!!
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