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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:33:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Seabee_Mech]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Foxtrot08: I was told it's going to be nearly 1:1 on large equipment. Mining, large stationary engines, etc. Currently it's about 1:7 with on road trucks. Expected to rise to 1:3 give or take. DEF is running around $6.00/gallon, diesel at the local Flying-J is $4.26/gallon. 1:3 is going to be a huge increase in operating costs. ETA: I should buy some Dyno Nobel stock |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:34:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Crazyascanbe: In other news cost of goods went up 25% due to the policies Trump put in place 4 years ago. Republicans are known for increasing prices and Trump is a poopy head Very interesting... ...thanks |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:35:27 AM EDT
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Things just aren't hard enough already. The Biden puppeteers just gotta push those numbers up. ...and they'll be cheered along by the propagandized masses. :(
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:39:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bogdan: People have no fucking idea how hard this will hit their wallets. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:39:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Butternut: "to fight climate change". That's essentially fighting the universe and historic cycles of extreme change that have occurred long before we were here, and will continue long after we are gone. Yep. It's like trying to stop earthquakes. Of course, they say the "man-made-climate-crisis" causes those too. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:40:51 AM EDT
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This new technology dictate isn't going to be the economic boom they are pitching -its just another inflationary domestic policy.
We will not be exporting these fancy clean emission vehicles to the rest of the world to make any noticeable environmental impact or improve our GDP in any meaningful way. The world needs cheap and affordable diesel vehicles and the countries that produce those for export will make a killing from the industrilizing world. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:44:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheLookingGlass: I laugh in 5.9 Cummins. Don’t laugh. There will come a day you’ll not be allowed to register “outdated” diesels for road use. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:46:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sumo6: Don't laugh. There will come a day you'll not be allowed to register "outdated" diesels for road use. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sumo6: Originally Posted By TheLookingGlass: I laugh in 5.9 Cummins. Don't laugh. There will come a day you'll not be allowed to register "outdated" diesels for road use. I'm honestly surprised the EPA and DOT haven't teamed up and made federally mandated emissions testing. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:48:18 AM EDT
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i love my diesels but im not sure ill buy another.
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:50:07 AM EDT
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makes me wanna tune my truck to roll coal just because FJB
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:50:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seabee_Mech: Christ that's nuts. DEF is running around $6.00/gallon, diesel at the local Flying-J is $4.26/gallon. 1:3 is going to be a huge increase in operating costs. ETA: I should buy some Dyno Nobel stock Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seabee_Mech: Originally Posted By Foxtrot08: I was told it's going to be nearly 1:1 on large equipment. Mining, large stationary engines, etc. Currently it's about 1:7 with on road trucks. Expected to rise to 1:3 give or take. DEF is running around $6.00/gallon, diesel at the local Flying-J is $4.26/gallon. 1:3 is going to be a huge increase in operating costs. ETA: I should buy some Dyno Nobel stock lol fucking really? DM and I can ship it to you for significantly less than $6 a gallon in totes. Holy fucking hell. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:50:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KalmanPhilter: Civilization runs on diesel. This childish, fearful addiction to the precautionary principle will have horrible economic & supply chain negative impacts. We need to reduce central planning. That's the problem you see... civilization...too many useless eaters get to enjoy it. They need a few billion to die. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:50:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR15A2SporterII: Welcome 2023'er. Yeah, cheap gas and mean tweets. Go you! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR15A2SporterII: Originally Posted By Crazyascanbe: In other news cost of goods went up 25% due to the policies Trump put in place 4 years ago. Republicans are known for increasing prices and Trump is a poopy head Welcome 2023'er. Yeah, cheap gas and mean tweets. Go you! You know it is sarcasm right, there Mr. ar15.com vet. Sorry to intrude on your site and post a comment. I can see why people complain about coming here and getting run off by the vets. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:51:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RIP-Yataski: Very interesting... ...thanks Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RIP-Yataski: Originally Posted By Crazyascanbe: In other news cost of goods went up 25% due to the policies Trump put in place 4 years ago. Republicans are known for increasing prices and Trump is a poopy head Very interesting... ...thanks For you too You know it is sarcasm right, there Mr. ar15.com vet. Sorry to intrude on your site and post a comment. I can see why people complain about coming here and getting run off by the vets. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:52:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Riter: Time to shut down the EPA and fire anybody who believes in Climate Change. I think we can go further |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:52:42 AM EDT
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A solution in search of a problem.
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:54:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Foxtrot08: lol fucking really? DM and I can ship it to you for significantly less than $6 a gallon in totes. Holy fucking hell. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Foxtrot08: Originally Posted By Seabee_Mech: Originally Posted By Foxtrot08: I was told it's going to be nearly 1:1 on large equipment. Mining, large stationary engines, etc. Currently it's about 1:7 with on road trucks. Expected to rise to 1:3 give or take. DEF is running around $6.00/gallon, diesel at the local Flying-J is $4.26/gallon. 1:3 is going to be a huge increase in operating costs. ETA: I should buy some Dyno Nobel stock lol fucking really? DM and I can ship it to you for significantly less than $6 a gallon in totes. Holy fucking hell. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:55:58 AM EDT
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The EPA is going to follow the California Air Resources Board rules and enforce them nationwide.
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:58:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bogdan: People have no fucking idea how hard this will hit their wallets. Practically everything we buy has its price artificially adjusted in some way. We have practically no idea how much anything truly costs. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 12:11:19 PM EDT
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The epa has been on a 30+ year agenda to destroy the diesel engine in America.
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Posted: 3/29/2024 12:15:58 PM EDT
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They will kill the economy.
Everything is moved by diesel trucks But that looks to be the plan. Destroy the economy of the US if not the world. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 12:23:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Crazyascanbe: You know it is sarcasm right, there Mr. ar15.com vet. Sorry to intrude on your site and post a comment. I can see why people complain about coming here and getting run off by the vets. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Crazyascanbe: Originally Posted By AR15A2SporterII: Originally Posted By Crazyascanbe: In other news cost of goods went up 25% due to the policies Trump put in place 4 years ago. Republicans are known for increasing prices and Trump is a poopy head Welcome 2023'er. Yeah, cheap gas and mean tweets. Go you! You know it is sarcasm right, there Mr. ar15.com vet. Sorry to intrude on your site and post a comment. I can see why people complain about coming here and getting run off by the vets.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 12:27:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Mach]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Crazyascanbe: For you too You know it is sarcasm right, there Mr. ar15.com vet. Sorry to intrude on your site and post a comment. I can see why people complain about coming here and getting run off by the vets. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Crazyascanbe: Originally Posted By RIP-Yataski: Originally Posted By Crazyascanbe: In other news cost of goods went up 25% due to the policies Trump put in place 4 years ago. Republicans are known for increasing prices and Trump is a poopy head Very interesting... ...thanks For you too You know it is sarcasm right, there Mr. ar15.com vet. Sorry to intrude on your site and post a comment. I can see why people complain about coming here and getting run off by the vets. I think your bot is malfunctioning. You really should change the programming so that you don't post the same reply to multiple people at least on the same page. Feel free to leave |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 12:28:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bogdan: People have no fucking idea how hard this will hit their wallets. This. It's going to be biblical. But then again, that's the point. The democrats want the inevitable results that will come as a result of this. That's why they're doing it. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 12:34:06 PM EDT
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The reason why Caterpillar no longer makes engines for OTR trucks.
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Posted: 3/29/2024 12:42:31 PM EDT
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He is the anti christ
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Posted: 3/29/2024 1:13:47 PM EDT
[#27]
What a buncha fuggin' faggots.
We're unlocking prosperity by making you destitute... feel all the extraordinary gains! |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 1:35:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Im_Awake: Have China and India fix their issues first, then we can talk. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/551831/Screenshot_20240329-064619_Brave_jpg-3172654.JPG It's all a grift. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/551831/Screenshot_20240329-064632_Brave_jpg-3172655.JPG Find a scene like this ANYWHERE in the United States. It can't be done. And we are so dumb as to play the global climate warming change catastrophe game with the rest of the world. What is the optimal tax rate I should pay to solve the problem? Well, my fair share of course! 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2024 1:38:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seabee_Mech: Christ that's nuts. DEF is running around $6.00/gallon, diesel at the local Flying-J is $4.26/gallon. 1:3 is going to be a huge increase in operating costs. ETA: I should buy some Dyno Nobel stock |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 3:26:24 PM EDT
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Biden cracks down on diesel trucks in bid to fight climate change, reduce independence.
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Posted: 3/29/2024 5:04:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seabee_Mech: Christ that's nuts. DEF is running around $6.00/gallon, diesel at the local Flying-J is $4.26/gallon. 1:3 is going to be a huge increase in operating costs. ETA: I should buy some Dyno Nobel stock |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 5:09:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sumo6: Don’t laugh. There will come a day you’ll not be allowed to register “outdated” diesels for road use. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sumo6: Originally Posted By TheLookingGlass: I laugh in 5.9 Cummins. Don’t laugh. There will come a day you’ll not be allowed to register “outdated” diesels for road use. Those are just first steps. What are you going to do when you can’t buy diesel at a gas station? |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 7:19:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Crazyascanbe: For you too You know it is sarcasm right, there Mr. ar15.com vet. Sorry to intrude on your site and post a comment. I can see why people complain about coming here and getting run off by the vets. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Crazyascanbe: Originally Posted By RIP-Yataski: Originally Posted By Crazyascanbe: In other news cost of goods went up 25% due to the policies Trump put in place 4 years ago. Republicans are known for increasing prices and Trump is a poopy head Very interesting... ...thanks For you too You know it is sarcasm right, there Mr. ar15.com vet. Sorry to intrude on your site and post a comment. I can see why people complain about coming here and getting run off by the vets. We're not sarcastic around here, so please don't do that again. And don't let the mean people here run you off. We would really miss you. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 7:26:04 PM EDT
[#34]
black smoke from big jet engines and trains
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MO, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2024 7:32:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seabee_Mech: It's slowly killing the Owner/Operator truck drivers. All the added emission requirements have increased breakdowns, usually due to DEF/DPF issues. Waiting on shop time and parts can down a truck for days or even weeks (time the O/O isn't making money) and cost thousands of dollars. Parts shortages during Covid were dead lining trucks for weeks/months, some companies were seeing 10-20% of their fleet down. At a former employer we had “DEF Row”. It was the line of trucks awaiting repair. Usually due to DEF system issues and back ordered parts. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 7:33:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RHR_12: Those are just first steps. What are you going to do when you can’t buy diesel at a gas station? Trains, planes and ships going to stop also? Can't see them being battery powered. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 7:34:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OscarD: At a former employer we had “DEF Row”. It was the line of trucks awaiting repair. Usually due to DEF system issues and back ordered parts. Had a def sensor, go bad. Only $700 for the part. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2024 7:34:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seabee_Mech: Christ that's nuts. DEF is running around $6.00/gallon, diesel at the local Flying-J is $4.26/gallon. 1:3 is going to be a huge increase in operating costs. ETA: I should buy some Dyno Nobel stock Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seabee_Mech: Originally Posted By Foxtrot08: I was told it's going to be nearly 1:1 on large equipment. Mining, large stationary engines, etc. Currently it's about 1:7 with on road trucks. Expected to rise to 1:3 give or take. DEF is running around $6.00/gallon, diesel at the local Flying-J is $4.26/gallon. 1:3 is going to be a huge increase in operating costs. ETA: I should buy some Dyno Nobel stock Glider kits and pre DEF engines. There’s a shop not far from me that churns out such trucks along with refurbing older units. The trucks are all sold before being completed. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2024 7:39:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dirtyboy: Had a def sensor, go bad. Only $700 for the part. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dirtyboy: Originally Posted By OscarD: At a former employer we had “DEF Row”. It was the line of trucks awaiting repair. Usually due to DEF system issues and back ordered parts. Had a def sensor, go bad. Only $700 for the part. Took a month or two to arrive though. That was the problem we faced. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 7:43:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KalmanPhilter: Civilization runs on diesel. fact those little faggots could fuck with gasoline and get away with it. fuck with diesel and it's a whole different ballgame. i have two peterbilts with less than 120,000 miles on them, collectively, that have already been down for FIVE DEF sensors with the current emissions bullshit FUCK. THE. EPA. |
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NH, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2024 7:44:40 PM EDT
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Biden reduces America and what America was built on once again. Biden continues to dismantle America's energy sources and Bill of Rights one Amendment at a time. What's next, telling American home owners of multi generational homes passed down, built and maintained by American families they face lawfare demanding illegal invading immigrants live in their homes while demanding restitution payments for blacks and you need to drive an electric car connected to a Government controller. When does this shit stop. For what climate change are we talking about here. The one where the climate changes as we are disarmed, forced injected, and told what to buy. There is a real climate change on the horizon, that's for sure. One carbon based life form over another is what it will come to for real true climate change. I plan on surviving climate change.
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Posted: 3/29/2024 8:23:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dirtyboy: Trains, planes and ships going to stop also? Can't see them being battery powered. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dirtyboy: Originally Posted By RHR_12: Those are just first steps. What are you going to do when you can’t buy diesel at a gas station? Trains, planes and ships going to stop also? Can't see them being battery powered. I didn’t say them. All it takes is legislation to say “diesel is not to be sold in gas stations” and it’s gone out of gas stations. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 8:57:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stevelish: All part of the depopulation strategy. Wait until their useful idiots find out it's not a big club and they're not in it. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 9:49:23 PM EDT
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Seriously every truck driver in this country should just take a week off. The same week. Then let’s see what the consensus is.
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Posted: 3/29/2024 9:56:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThe green weenies are more than happy to kill people for their cause. They’re at best, homicidal morons, at worse brain washed genocidal zealots for their cult. This goes hand in hand with the liberal clowns that say they refuse to have children because the planet is overpopulated. They would be happy to sacrifice themselves and anyone near them (you) for the greater good of the blue marble. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 10:01:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Foxtrot08: I was told it’s going to be nearly 1:1 on large equipment. Mining, large stationary engines, etc. Currently it’s about 1:7 with on road trucks. Expected to rise to 1:3 give or take. <---looks out the window.....thinks of Tier 2 cummings.......looks at how to keep from getting truck stolen.....  The only reason it might stay for awhile is because they need to know what the third pedal is for, but not an absolute stopper for anyone. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 10:09:54 PM EDT
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Weird, I never see the DEF tank on a US military or government vehicle. I wonder why.
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Posted: 3/29/2024 10:10:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RHR_12: Those are just first steps. What are you going to do when you can’t buy diesel at a gas station? There will be a vegetable oil shortage......well used stuff anyway....  If they start cancelling my vehicles.....my warm letters to the congress critters might get turned up a notch or two. (not that I expect big results though).
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/29/2024 10:29:10 PM EDT
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1. Biden does not do anything, he is an empty suit front shit for The Party.
2. The Party is a front band for those who pay it to steer the course they want. 3. Those who pay The Party want the US to degrade and fade, they want the same for civilization itself. 4. Clown World is a tool to get redistribution of wealth from the many to the few. The many will own nothing, the few will own everything. That is Political Left. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 10:37:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scoobysmak: <---looks out the window.....thinks of Tier 2 cummings.......looks at how to keep from getting truck stolen..... The only reason it might stay for awhile is because they need to know what the third pedal is for, but not an absolute stopper for anyone. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scoobysmak: Originally Posted By Foxtrot08: I was told it’s going to be nearly 1:1 on large equipment. Mining, large stationary engines, etc. Currently it’s about 1:7 with on road trucks. Expected to rise to 1:3 give or take. <---looks out the window.....thinks of Tier 2 cummings.......looks at how to keep from getting truck stolen..... The only reason it might stay for awhile is because they need to know what the third pedal is for, but not an absolute stopper for anyone. The problem is people who use them 8-12 hours a day, every day, can’t run pre emissions stuff anymore. Trust me. I tried. We ran pre emissions till 2019. We just couldn’t do it anymore. Couldn’t find parts. Couldn’t keep things running. Frames cracking. Just too expensive to keep on the road. |
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