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Posted: 3/27/2024 7:40:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOtherDave: So what? The US military buys Trijicon products because they want the best-the Chinese military wants the best too. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOtherDave: Originally Posted By StainlessEagle: https://www.vermilionchina.com/p/holosun-chinese-or-american TLDR: Legal nerds at Vermillion China did a bunch of digging into Holosun and believes Holosun is a subsidiary of a CCP backed optics conglomerate that supplies the PLA. So what? The US military buys Trijicon products because they want the best-the Chinese military wants the best too. Wait, you really believe that? |
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USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 7:40:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DDDDCheapAF: Justification. The wild card that justifies anything and everything. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DDDDCheapAF: Originally Posted By gtsteve03: Is buying Holosun funding the PRC more or less than my cellphone, TV or laptop? Justification. The wild card that justifies anything and everything. Discontinue your use of all of those products or go away. Don't own a holosun. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 7:40:51 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By feetpiece: At least they aren't sending shit to Ukraine Or are they? Apparently they've been providing humanitarian aid to ukraine. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 7:40:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mikepiet]
[#4]
Anyone have an AEMS for sale? Looking to pick one up on the used market and compare vs Eotech.
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Posted: 3/27/2024 7:41:24 PM EDT
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I wonder if it has an "off switch" built in somewhere so under certain circumstances it can be disabled and not useable against their military?
Seems unlikely, but I'd like to see an electronics expert get into one to see if anything in there can receive a signal. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 7:43:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Millennial]
[#6]
So OP, you’re saying I can get military-grade optics for 1/3-1/2 price of Trijicon/Aimpoint/EOTech?
Sweet. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 7:43:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TurtlesAlltheWayDown]
[#7]
Opinion on Taiwan aside the reality is that optics will be used to aim the rifle that shoot at our kids.
If it’s a duty gun don’t use that crap. If it’s not a duty gun then go with literally anything else. Lots of other cheap non China brands I buy a lot of material from China as it’s unavoidable in my industry but directly fueling their military and R&D? Nah. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 7:43:29 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Deadtired: So you're saying Holosun is mil-spec. Got it. 
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 7:43:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JustDaniel]
[#9]
NO. FUCKING. SHIT. OP
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MO, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 7:44:40 PM EDT
[#10]
No shit…
At least holosun isn’t sitting on their sweet sweet government contracts only throwing a very expensive bone to the commercial market when they need capital or a stock bump. Colt doesn’t seem big anymore…wonder why |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 7:44:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JellyBelly: I wonder if it has an "off switch" built in somewhere so under certain circumstances it can be disabled and not useable against their military? Seems unlikely, but I'd like to see an electronics expert get into one to see if anything in there can receive a signal. I'm guessing Trijicon has dug through them extensively. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 7:47:46 PM EDT
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/erictegler/2024/01/09/americas-carriers-rely-on-chinese-chips-our-depleted-munitions-too/amp/
I am once again calling for the jailing of DoD contractors. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 7:48:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TurtlesAlltheWayDown: Opinion on Taiwan aside the reality is that optics will be used to aim the rifle that shoot at our kids. If it’s a duty gun don’t use that crap. If it’s not a duty gun then go with literally anything else. Lots of other cheap non China brands What are some cheap (and decent) RDS for handguns that aren’t made in China? |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 7:48:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: StainlessEagle]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mikepiet: Anyone have an AEMS for sale? Looking to pick one up on the used market and compare vs Eotech. There are some dealers on r/Gundeals that offer prices below MAP. Seeing that they are from a commie country, Holosun has a really strict MAP policy to try to control prices (or the perception of prices at least). Dealers like Ibex Armament, Simmons Sporting Goods, 3D Gunman, and others have discounted prices but they all require you to give them your email so they can send you a secret code for the discount so daddy Holosun doesn't get mad. You can also go on r/Gunaccessoriesforsale or the Arfcom EE if you're fine with used optics. Edit: Looks like I can't read but my point still stands. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 7:49:36 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drw1006: What isn't made in China! Trijicon |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 7:54:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LineOfDeparture: I buy trijicon, Elcan, and aimpoint. Fuck chinasun. Flip a light switch? Probably made in China Take a dump? Toilet parts made in China, China watch u poop. China thanks you for your support |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 7:56:05 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RustedAce: Trijicon loves Jesus. Thats whats really important. Buy Trijicon. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:00:39 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FreefallRet: Praise Jesus!! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FreefallRet: Originally Posted By RustedAce: Trijicon loves Jesus. Thats whats really important. Buy Trijicon. Pass the ammunition! (Not wolf or norrico though) |
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USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:00:40 PM EDT
[#19]
No shit.
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:01:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:01:43 PM EDT
[#21]
These threads are easily among the dumbest threads this site has to offer.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:03:11 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LineOfDeparture: I buy trijicon, Elcan, and aimpoint. Fuck chinasun. Same |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:03:42 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doty_soty: These threads are easily among the dumbest threads this site has to offer. lol, maybe next time they can mix it up a bit, discover that Taurus has ties to Brazil, or Colt Canada has ties to Canada |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:04:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By StainlessEagle: https://www.vermilionchina.com/p/holosun-chinese-or-american TLDR: Legal nerds at Vermillion China did a bunch of digging into Holosun and believes Holosun is a subsidiary of a CCP backed optics conglomerate that supplies the PLA. So, you’re saying holosun is legit MISPEC? GTG! Thanks for letting us know. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:07:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Action45: Same people crying about Holosun were shooting the fuck out of cheap Norinco ammo years ago. Everybody loved the Mak90’s back in the day. Norinco 1911’s, Shotguns. Collector items today. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:08:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TurtlesAlltheWayDown: .... the reality is that [Holosun] optics will be used to aim the rifle that shoot at our kids. .... Is the United States government using Holosuns now? |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:09:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillofRights: Everybody loved the Mak90’s back in the day. Norinco 1911’s, Shotguns. Collector items today. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillofRights: Originally Posted By Action45: Same people crying about Holosun were shooting the fuck out of cheap Norinco ammo years ago. Everybody loved the Mak90’s back in the day. Norinco 1911’s, Shotguns. Collector items today. Collected by people that hate America. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:09:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StevenH: Who supports the American gun owner more? China or Michigan? https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/201802/1090293.shtml  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:09:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JellyBelly: I wonder if it has an "off switch" built in somewhere so under certain circumstances it can be disabled and not useable against their military? Seems unlikely, but I'd like to see an electronics expert get into one to see if anything in there can receive a signal. Oh for fucks sake.  Really? The “off switch” is built in. Planned obsolescence. 10,000 hours, Done. Hafta buy a new one. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:09:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: st0newall]
[#30]
decreased horse.
ok.. eta to say, if i was gonna kick a horse, i'd prefer it be decreased. a increased horse might kick back. 
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:09:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Papaw: So? I ain't ditching my 507c's, OP.  
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:11:12 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TurtlesAlltheWayDown: Opinion on Taiwan aside the reality is that optics will be used to aim the rifle that shoot at our kids. If it’s a duty gun don’t use that crap. If it’s not a duty gun then go with literally anything else. Lots of other cheap non China brands I buy a lot of material from China as it’s unavoidable in my industry but directly fueling their military and R&D? Nah. If you buy stuff from China, you Are directly fueling their military. Own it. Don’t be a simpleton or a hypocrite. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:12:24 PM EDT
[#33]
So are they listening to us through our holosuns? Or just tracking us? Because I only have one but can leave it at home.
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KS, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:12:32 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RustedAce: Trijicon loves Jesus. Thats whats really important. Buy Trijicon. Not sure if serious, ironic serious, or not serious |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:12:35 PM EDT
[#35]
This post makes Ping Ping cry.
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:14:45 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DDDDCheapAF: Justification. The wild card that justifies anything and everything. Hypocracy. Why don't they feel that way about all chinese stuff? |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:16:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Hypocracy. Why don't they feel that way about all chinese stuff? They really feel the need to defend the more expensive purchase |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:17:10 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 797hp: Is this really a fucking surprise to ANYONE? |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:22:11 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JellyBelly: I wonder if it has an "off switch" built in somewhere so under certain circumstances it can be disabled and not useable against their military? Seems unlikely, but I'd like to see an electronics expert get into one to see if anything in there can receive a signal. Lol. Good one. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:28:29 PM EDT
[#40]
i try to avoid buying chinesium as much as i can it's not always possible. but i try. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:31:53 PM EDT
[#41]
Wait. Hold on. You're blowing my mind.
A Chinese company. Sells stuff. To the Chinese military. Could it be true? 
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:56:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3-gun]
[#42]
You gotta pick,
MRO or 510 for a dot sight. I got both😂 |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:56:55 PM EDT
[#43]
im sure trijicon and aimpoint have agreements with the atf and fbi. they hate me more than china ever will
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Posted: 3/27/2024 9:05:18 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SlipRing: Wait. Hold on. You're blowing my mind. A Chinese company. Sells stuff. To the Chinese military. Could it be true? But those dozens of millions of bucks they make each year selling Holsuns in the USA is probably what will tip the scales in favor of the commies in WW3. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 10:02:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LineOfDeparture: I buy trijicon, Elcan, and aimpoint. Fuck chinasun. the man we allowed to become president is more Chinese than holosun. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 10:08:06 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheLookingGlass: Maybe try buying stuff not made in China instead of being an apologist for normalizing funding the enemy? Yes there are places that make electronics outside of China. My cellphone tv and laptop are made in either Japan or South Korea, as are most of my other electronics. You can avoid China on probably 90% of purchases if you do a teensy little bit of web searching first. I find it cute that you are niave enough to beleive that every single component of that cell phone did NOT come from China and was just assembled in Korea. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 10:09:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StainlessEagle: I'm disappointed no one has posted Ping Ping yet. She has never voted for a dem in her life. I thought her name was yum yum. maybe her twin sister? I bet they both yummy |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 10:13:12 PM EDT
[#48]
GD hates Muslims and Communists.
But, man, they love HoloSun and can’t get enough of Canik, Tisas, Sarsilmaz pistols. 
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Posted: 3/27/2024 10:14:28 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheLookingGlass: Maybe try buying stuff not made in China instead of being an apologist for normalizing funding the enemy? Yes there are places that make electronics outside of China. My cellphone tv and laptop are made in either Japan or South Korea, as are most of my other electronics. You can avoid China on probably 90% of purchases if you do a teensy little bit of web searching first. Assembled in those countries maybe, the pcb assemblies and the components that make it work are from China. I've had three Chinese visas to approve those processes. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 10:15:54 PM EDT
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