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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:28:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have to question that logic. The average home value in Tempe is 477k This house is above average. How is that modest? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/38726/1000009650_jpg-3170879.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Uh, yeah dude. They even posted a pic. Modest in every possible way, except the electric bill. I have to question that logic. The average home value in Tempe is 477k This house is above average. How is that modest? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/38726/1000009650_jpg-3170879.JPG Well it’s written in the Queens English. 20% over average means “Modest” in limy-speak. Wouldn’t you rather argue about whether a Corvette is a Supercar? It seems a much more fitting use of our time. 
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:29:40 PM EDT
[#2]
Sugar daddy is gonna be pissed
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:30:11 PM EDT
[#3]
Super duper corvette.
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:31:41 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: UH 600k is a "modest" house? |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:31:55 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sugar daddy is gonna be pissed Did you see the pic? Ain’t no sugar daddy Earl. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:32:51 PM EDT
[#6]
Well, this is what happens when women are increasingly encouraged to act like or even now to literally be men in our society. This includes in how the average girl is raised by even Fathers who would identify as "conservatives."
We will see increased physical risk taking from young women in the years ahead. In a society that never discusses the limits of women we shouldn't be surprised when they miscaulate their abilities, especially when young. A very odd and significant behavioral shift is taking place with women in the USA. I have a coworker who's son is in high school and we was sharing with me the other day that apparently the female high school students are getting into significantly more physical fights in the school than the male students. He even said it is becoming more common for these girls in high school to physically attack male students. Gender roles and social norms are warping at a rapid rate and with even the overwhelming majority of people who claim to be the "right" promoting it I just don't see any hope for halting that massive cultural change. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:35:45 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Berg was arrested Monday after the airbag computer system on her 2024 Corvette - which cost between $70,000 and $140,000 - found she had been driving at 155mph seconds slamming the brakes and careening into Clark. Here’s the only pertinent bit. And it’s pretty important to know: You don’t have plausible deniability in a modern car. She got down to normal speed and barely tapped that motorcycle. If she had been driving an ‘87 Corvette, her legal situation would be different. Not defending her. Just saying, it’s important to remember, the car will Always rat you out. She was going 155 on a fucking public road. I don’t care how much she slowed down. Had she been going slower, she would have had more time to react, and she probably wouldn’t have killed the guy Lock her up for as long as possible. Then I hope one of the dead guys kids seeks, and achieves, revenge. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:35:53 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: None of that is going to bring the victim back, and it wasn’t malicious or deliberate. What is accomplished by also destroying her life? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:  It's retarded that the home her parents own is even mentioned. Fuck this adult and her future, hoping she leads a miserable fucking life and this haunts her like aids. None of that is going to bring the victim back, and it wasn’t malicious or deliberate. What is accomplished by also destroying her life? Deterrence and incapacitating vengeance cycles. She wilfully disregarded the obvious significant risk of serious harm to other drivers and herself by doing 155 under those circumstances. A death resulted from her reckless mental state and criminal actions. Normally, we call that manslaughter, and that doesn't warrant the kind of life punishment that murderers get, but they do get some. I blame her (lack of) quality driver education. As well as whoever thought it was a good idea to stick an 18 year old female not named Ashley Force in a modern Corvette. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:36:21 PM EDT
[#9]
Couple of things.
1. Article states she is accused of driving 155mph. However, that may not have played a role in the crash. It also says she was going 87mph at the time of the collision. Traffic generally flows about 75mph on the freeways in the Valley so that's a 12mph differential. Not excusing her fuckup, but not as reckless as the article makes it sound. Still impactful, but the article makes it sound like she plowed over a stopped motorcyclist at 155mph. 2. The car apparently records a lot of what you are doing. Anyone know how far back the downloadable digital records go on these new cars? |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:36:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did you see the pic? Ain’t no sugar daddy Earl. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sugar daddy is gonna be pissed Did you see the pic? Ain’t no sugar daddy Earl. $140K car…she’s licking an old guy’s butthole |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:37:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: UH 600k is a "modest" house? Barely gets you a shack in many parts of the country. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:38:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: UH 600k is a "modest" house? It is in Florida. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:39:24 PM EDT
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That situation is terrible for everyone involved. Her actions ruined the life of the victims family and her own.
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:39:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like the car was a Z06 from the price description anyway. 670hp and 0-60 in 2.6. The are all fast cars as cars go and not something most 18 year olds should be driving. That said they only provided the price range for the entire range of Vette in the article. I like them and would take any version for free! However, they are definitely using sensationalist language in the title when in the article they state: her 2024 Corvette - which cost between $70,000 and $140,000 She could have been in a fart can equipped 2009 Honda Civic and still hit the guy and killed him because of her poor decisions. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:39:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Couple of things. 1. Article states she is accused of driving 155mph. However, that may not have played a role in the crash. It also says she was going 87mph at the time of the collision. Traffic generally flows about 75mph on the freeways in the Valley so that's a 12mph differential. Not excusing her fuckup, but not as reckless as the article makes it sound. Still impactful, but the article makes it sound like she plowed over a stopped motorcyclist at 155mph. 2. The car apparently records a lot of what you are doing. Anyone know how far back the downloadable digital records go on these new cars? The article states that she was traveling 155 then stabbed the brakes immediately before the impact Lock that little shit up. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:42:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: $140K car…she’s licking an old guy’s butthole |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:44:01 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think the author is giving corvettes a bit too much credit here. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:44:26 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: From the article: Do copy editors not exist nowadays? Quote HistoryQuoted: From the article: before slamming on the breaks Do copy editors not exist nowadays? Sadly enough, that's how you know an AI did not write the article. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:44:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, this is what happens when women are increasingly encouraged to act like or even now to literally be men in our society. This includes in how the average girl is raised by even Fathers who would identify as "conservatives." We will see increased physical risk taking from young women in the years ahead. In a society that never discusses the limits of women we shouldn't be surprised when they miscaulate their abilities, especially when young. A very odd and significant behavioral shift is taking place with women in the USA. I have a coworker who's son is in high school and we was sharing with me the other day that apparently the female high school students are getting into significantly more physical fights in the school than the male students. He even said it is becoming more common for these girls in high school to physically attack male students. Gender roles and social norms are warping at a rapid rate and with even the overwhelming majority of people who claim to be the "right" promoting it I just don't see any hope for halting that massive cultural change. You drew all these conclusions from a girl driving too fast and accidentally killing someone? Do you also have any pontifications about males who have done the same thing? They do it so often, to the point where a girl being the driver it makes international news. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:45:51 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: None of that is going to bring the victim back, and it wasn’t malicious or deliberate. What is accomplished by also destroying her life? White knight, I hope you can write her in prison. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:46:02 PM EDT
[#21]
She did CPR on the guy.
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:46:29 PM EDT
[#22]
“Super car”
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:47:23 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: She did CPR on the guy. I wonder if she was actually trained. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:47:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, I don't feel like it crosses the line into Supercar territory. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I think the author is giving corvettes a bit too much credit here. Compare a modern base model C8 to any sports or supercar built before the year 2000. It's right up there in raw numbers with basically every exotic, but quicker to accelerate and faster top speed than a number of them. I'm not saying compare it to a hyper car like a Veyron or Enzo, but it's not slow either. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:50:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:50:44 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: She's an adult. She could have bought it herself with onlyfans money for all we know. I think it's too much car for someone that young, but what I think doesn't matter. She's still legally entitled to own it. After all, every day we have threads explaining why experience is of no real value and shouldn’t be used in hiring/firing/wage/benefit equations.  And in before:  |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:51:00 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Her sugar daddy is 60? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sad story. Most surprising thing is that anyone under 60 is driving a vette. Her sugar daddy is 60? …and wears jorts and white New Balance shoes. Probably even cargo pocket jorts. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:51:46 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: UH 600k is a "modest" house? In Tempe, yes. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:53:57 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: She did CPR on the guy. Well yeah. She's dumb, but she ain't stupid. You're breaking the law that bad and you hurt somebody, you better try your damnedest to make sure they dont die. That could be a different in decades in your prison sentence. Besides. That's a super car. She's a super hero. If anybody can bring the dude back, it would be her. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:55:21 PM EDT
[#30]
She definitely has an OnlyFans.
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:57:39 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Terrible all around. Everyone lost in this situation. This. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:57:40 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Horrible event, stupid girl that broke a family. But the news article was horribly written with missing words, and then the sensationalism about the Corvette being a “supercar” and could cost up to $140,000. What relevance is that to the fucking story ? Then they say she was doing 155 miles an hour before slamming on the brakes and hit them at 87 mph according to the airbags computer. Holy shit…. The brits media is worse than ours! Wrong, article says she slammed on the BREAKS. "On the night of the crash, Arizona authorities said Berg rear-ended Clark's motorcycle on the highway after reaching the breakneck speed, before slamming on the breaks to 87mph right before impact." |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:59:08 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Meh…the guy that killed Treat Williams , while Treat was riding his motorcycle , got away with it , no charges filed . Apples to hand grenades. Also, the driver was charged and took a plea deal. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:59:19 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Berg was arrested Monday after the airbag computer system on her 2024 Corvette - which cost between $70,000 and $140,000 - found she had been driving at 155mph seconds slamming the brakes and careening into Clark. Here's the only pertinent bit. And it's pretty important to know: You don't have plausible deniability in a modern car. She got down to normal speed and barely tapped that motorcycle. If she had been driving an '87 Corvette, her legal situation would be different. Not defending her. Just saying, it's important to remember, the car will Always rat you out. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Horrible event, stupid girl that broke a family. But the news article was horribly written with missing words, and then the sensationalism about the Corvette being a "supercar" and could cost up to $140,000. What relevance is that to the fucking story ? Then they say she was doing 155 miles an hour before slamming on the brakes and hit them at 87 mph according to the airbags computer. Holy shit . The brits media is worse than ours! Berg was arrested Monday after the airbag computer system on her 2024 Corvette - which cost between $70,000 and $140,000 - found she had been driving at 155mph seconds slamming the brakes and careening into Clark. Here's the only pertinent bit. And it's pretty important to know: You don't have plausible deniability in a modern car. She got down to normal speed and barely tapped that motorcycle. If she had been driving an '87 Corvette, her legal situation would be different. Not defending her. Just saying, it's important to remember, the car will Always rat you out. You don't ''tap'' someone when you are doing 87. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 1:00:35 PM EDT
[#35]
Guilty.
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Posted: 3/27/2024 1:03:39 PM EDT
[#36]
Regular Corvettes: High performance sports car.
Z06: Super car. Is the Porsche GT3 a Super car? Yes. What’s the performance difference between that and the Z06? Around me, there are tons of kids driving cars they shouldn’t. Mustang GT’s, M2/3/4’s, Porsches, Corvettes. I would have killed myself in any of those in my late teens/early 20’s. I’m surprised it doesn’t happen more frequently. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 1:04:09 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Couple of things. 1. Article states she is accused of driving 155mph. However, that may not have played a role in the crash. It also says she was going 87mph at the time of the collision. Traffic generally flows about 75mph on the freeways in the Valley so that's a 12mph differential. Not excusing her fuckup, but not as reckless as the article makes it sound. Still impactful, but the article makes it sound like she plowed over a stopped motorcyclist at 155mph. 2. The car apparently records a lot of what you are doing. Anyone know how far back the downloadable digital records go on these new cars? True. 75-85 mph is normal speed on the freeways here if there isn't traffic. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 1:04:09 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted: Did his car rat him out by recording that he was doing 155 a few seconds before hitting him at (really) 87 mph? Your point is right though about, if you're going to kill someone and mostly get away with it, doing it with a car is the way. Quoted: As would be appropriate for a legit accident. Not sure going 155 mph is the same thing though, sounds like reckless driving and driving reckless resulting in death should be manslaughter. He posted and doesn’t even know what he’s talking about. Williams was killed when a car made a left turn in front of his motorcycle. It’s an apples to oranges comparison. Also, the driver of the car was charged and took a plea deal. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 1:04:27 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm sure the dead guy's family doesn't give a shit what type of car it was or how much her parent's house is worth. Their lawyers do |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 1:05:59 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: …and wears jorts and white New Balance shoes. Probably even cargo pocket jorts. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Sad story. Most surprising thing is that anyone under 60 is driving a vette. Her sugar daddy is 60? …and wears jorts and white New Balance shoes. Probably even cargo pocket jorts. Required |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 1:06:15 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 87MPH is normal speed? You don't ''tap'' someone when you are doing 87. On 75 in So. FL, it’s pretty common. Hell, I’ll get passed by moms in G63’s and Bentley’s doing that. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 1:06:46 PM EDT
[#42]
C8 Corvettes are not $140,000 unless it a completely macked out Z06.
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Posted: 3/27/2024 1:07:37 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like the car was a Z06 from the price description anyway. 670hp and 0-60 in 2.6. Pic looked like a Stingray but hard to tell. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 1:08:46 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like the car was a Z06 from the price description anyway. 670hp and 0-60 in 2.6. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: UH 600k is a "modest" house? A Corvette is a "super car"? Note the article doesn't post the version and only states the car can cost UP TO 140K. Sounds like the car was a Z06 from the price description anyway. 670hp and 0-60 in 2.6. No one needs 670 horsepower. We really need to have a conversation about common sense horsepower control. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 1:09:15 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Couple of things. 1. Article states she is accused of driving 155mph. However, that may not have played a role in the crash. It also says she was going 87mph at the time of the collision. Traffic generally flows about 75mph on the freeways in the Valley so that's a 12mph differential. Not excusing her fuckup, but not as reckless as the article makes it sound. Still impactful, but the article makes it sound like she plowed over a stopped motorcyclist at 155mph. 2. The car apparently records a lot of what you are doing. Anyone know how far back the downloadable digital records go on these new cars? Depends on the size of the SD card in your performance data recorder(if equipped). And if you have it set up as a dash cam or not. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 1:09:54 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: None of that is going to bring the victim back, and it wasn’t malicious or deliberate. What is accomplished by also destroying her life? Eye for an eye. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 1:11:17 PM EDT
[#47]
RIP Ranger Clark.
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Posted: 3/27/2024 1:13:04 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No one needs 670 horsepower. We really need to have a conversation about common sense horsepower control. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 1:13:56 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: None of that is going to bring the victim back, and it wasn’t malicious or deliberate. What is accomplished by also destroying her life? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's retarded that the home her parents own is even mentioned. Fuck this adult and her future, hoping she leads a miserable fucking life and this haunts her like aids. None of that is going to bring the victim back, and it wasn’t malicious or deliberate. What is accomplished by also destroying her life? Although I respect your opinion, I believe your post to be lacking compassion for the victim, his now broken family and sends a poor message of personal responsibility. On the other hand it also may show my lack of compassion towards her and I am ok with that. She will spend thousands and thousands of dollars defending her actions and the result of her stupidity once again and will most likely get a slap on the wrist. She will then never think of the incident again while the family will trying to cope with it for the rest of their lives. I have no faith in the justice system and that may lead me to my hopes of misery for her. This isn't an "oops I killed someone" scenario, she is an adult and very aware what the consequences of speeds like that on a public highway may induce. Maybe you've not lost a child, brother, wife, friend, etc. from the conscious irresponsibility of another person. I hope she burns in living hell. We'll just agree to disagree, cheers. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 1:14:31 PM EDT
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In before all the GD dipshits say he deserved to die for being a left lane camper?
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