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Originally Posted By Duck_Hunt: That list is rather long at this point. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Duck_Hunt: Originally Posted By GutWrench: Ahh well. She started off strong. Ended up just being a failure. That list is rather long at this point. We all know something was afoot in the election in relation to fraud, especially in Arizona where their voting laws are very frail. But again its kind of crazy non of these people were able to find anything substantial to bring before a court of law. |
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Originally Posted By GutWrench: So she filed for discovery and they refused to provide it, defying the courts order or did it just not exist? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By GutWrench: Originally Posted By crashburnrepeat: Because she made claims and has been unable to get access to evidence. She might also be running out of money to fight. She's probably burned millions trying to fight this and suspect she's running our of money So she filed for discovery and they refused to provide it, defying the courts order or did it just not exist? Sounds like an outstanding basis for defense in a defamation trial. or you can go with "lack of evidence of conspiracy, is part of the conspiracy man!" again, and again and again aaaanndndd again andagain. If this were a one-off, then maybe. But every single one - every time - with every single judge, including conservative ones - every time? The other explanation is they were sore losers who talked a lot of shit, and a lot of people who'se echo chamber said they should win, can't handle that they didn't. Meanwhile, the abortion topic is the single most passionate topic in America right now, and every ballot in every hard conservatvie state, Republican lead initiatives to ban it are utterly trashed by epic historic swings. Talk to people outside of AR15.com, and things align with the realitiy of most American voters. And that topic, is #1 why. |
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Originally Posted By crashburnrepeat: Are you kidding🤣🤣 Just the fact her opponent was in charge of the election alone is bad. Maricopa county had tons of issues. I think she's probably running out of money to fight. She doesn't have Donald Trump money View Quote Running out of money?!? lol. You dont understand... Its not complicated. She's going to get slammed with damages... If she had a case she she would not only avoid those damages, she would be a republican hero and win the election... When do you figure out you've been hoodwinked |
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Originally Posted By lazyengineer: Sounds like an outstanding basis for defense in a defamation trial. or you can go with "lack of evidence of conspiracy, is part of the conspiracy man!" again, and again and again aaaanndndd again andagain. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By lazyengineer: Originally Posted By GutWrench: Originally Posted By crashburnrepeat: Because she made claims and has been unable to get access to evidence. She might also be running out of money to fight. She's probably burned millions trying to fight this and suspect she's running our of money So she filed for discovery and they refused to provide it, defying the courts order or did it just not exist? Sounds like an outstanding basis for defense in a defamation trial. or you can go with "lack of evidence of conspiracy, is part of the conspiracy man!" again, and again and again aaaanndndd again andagain. Ayup |
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Originally Posted By crashburnrepeat: The problem with cheating is, the cheaters cover the evidence, and without full audits, you'll have a helluva time proving it. The system used to be structured to make it difficult, but mail in ballots made it very easy. Cheaters aren't going to say oh yeah, we totally threw a bunch of fake ballots in the to even things to! Just doesn't happen And when the government was more or less neutral, it didn't happen at such broad scale and when it did, you could sometimes discover and fight it. But when it's the literal government helping? Of course evidence is going to be incredibly difficult to get View Quote Or you just make accusations of cheating with any factual basis because you're a.... sore loser? |
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Originally Posted By crashburnrepeat: The problem with cheating is, the cheaters cover the evidence, and without full audits, you'll have a helluva time proving it. The system used to be structured to make it difficult, but mail in ballots made it very easy. Cheaters aren't going to say oh yeah, we totally threw a bunch of fake ballots in the to even things to! Just doesn't happen And when the government was more or less neutral, it didn't happen at such broad scale and when it did, you could sometimes discover and fight it. But when it's the literal government helping? Of course evidence is going to be incredibly difficult to get View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By crashburnrepeat: Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: Originally Posted By Bhart89: Aside from her claims on the recorder do you believe that Lake was the victim of election fraud? If you have the evidence, you need to send it to her ASAP. I don't think that an affidavit claiming "I believe there was fraud" will suffice. The problem with cheating is, the cheaters cover the evidence, and without full audits, you'll have a helluva time proving it. The system used to be structured to make it difficult, but mail in ballots made it very easy. Cheaters aren't going to say oh yeah, we totally threw a bunch of fake ballots in the to even things to! Just doesn't happen And when the government was more or less neutral, it didn't happen at such broad scale and when it did, you could sometimes discover and fight it. But when it's the literal government helping? Of course evidence is going to be incredibly difficult to get So the "fact" that there isn't "actual evidence" of conspiracy theory is therefore IRREFUTABLE proof of said "conspiracy" Bigger_Hammer |
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BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT SHOUTING "HOLY $H!T...WHAT A RIDE"!! |
FFS some of you guys sound like Democrats. It's embarrassing.
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Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: So the "fact" that there isn't "actual evidence" of conspiracy theory is therefore IRREFUTABLE proof of said "conspiracy" Bigger_Hammer View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: Originally Posted By crashburnrepeat: Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: Originally Posted By Bhart89: Aside from her claims on the recorder do you believe that Lake was the victim of election fraud? If you have the evidence, you need to send it to her ASAP. I don't think that an affidavit claiming "I believe there was fraud" will suffice. The problem with cheating is, the cheaters cover the evidence, and without full audits, you'll have a helluva time proving it. The system used to be structured to make it difficult, but mail in ballots made it very easy. Cheaters aren't going to say oh yeah, we totally threw a bunch of fake ballots in the to even things to! Just doesn't happen And when the government was more or less neutral, it didn't happen at such broad scale and when it did, you could sometimes discover and fight it. But when it's the literal government helping? Of course evidence is going to be incredibly difficult to get So the "fact" that there isn't "actual evidence" of conspiracy theory is therefore IRREFUTABLE proof of said "conspiracy" Bigger_Hammer |
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Originally Posted By NDHojo: FFS some of you guys sound like Democrats. It's embarrassing. View Quote FFS, some of You "guys" sould like Total & Complete Idiots. It's embarrassing. Democrats high five each other Everytime Trump & Chumps go on and on about "Stolen elections" & wacky conspiracy shit. Batshit Crazy lies from Sidney Powell, Rudy Giuliani, Mike Lindell & Kari Lake drive voters away from Republican candidates & win elections for Democrats. (See Georgia Senate Runoff 2020 & Republican Trump Senate massacre in the 2022 mid terms Bigger_Hammer |
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LIFE'S JOURNEY IS NOT TO ARRIVE AT THE GRAVE SAFELY IN A WELL PRESERVED BODY,
BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT SHOUTING "HOLY $H!T...WHAT A RIDE"!! |
She should have just released the Kraken, Surely that would have won the case for her.
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Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: FFS, some of You "guys" sould like Total & Complete Idiots. It's embarrassing. Democrats high five each other Everytime Trump & Chumps go on and on about "Stolen elections" & wacky conspiracy shit. Batshit Crazy lies from Sidney Powell, Rudy Giuliani, Mike Lindell & Kari Lake drive voters away from Republican candidates & win elections for Democrats. (See Georgia Senate Runoff 2020 & Republican Trump Senate massacre in the 2022 mid terms Bigger_Hammer View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: Originally Posted By NDHojo: FFS some of you guys sound like Democrats. It's embarrassing. FFS, some of You "guys" sould like Total & Complete Idiots. It's embarrassing. Democrats high five each other Everytime Trump & Chumps go on and on about "Stolen elections" & wacky conspiracy shit. Batshit Crazy lies from Sidney Powell, Rudy Giuliani, Mike Lindell & Kari Lake drive voters away from Republican candidates & win elections for Democrats. (See Georgia Senate Runoff 2020 & Republican Trump Senate massacre in the 2022 mid terms Bigger_Hammer This is a very unwelcome post - that everybody better go back and read twice, because it's spot on correct. Every hated bit of it. |
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Originally Posted By SmokeEater2: She should have just released the Kraken, Surely that would have won the case for her. View Quote Kraken! KRAKEN!! KRAKEN!!! Why hasn't that damned Kraken been released?? It would supposedly "Prove" all that "Voter Fraud". So FOUR YEARS LATER - where is that damn KRAKEN? Bigger_Hammer |
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By admitting liability she's hoping to limit how much the jury will hear about her lying about election fraud and just attack the plaintiff by arguing that his claims of mental distress over her lies is baloney.
there's two parts to a civil case: did the defendant do the thing the plaintiff claimed and if so did what are the damages. If you have a particularly bad case on liability sometimes you just admit liability and contest damages. I think I did this once in a car accident trial doing insurance work. My client had rear ended the plaintiff, who was stopped in traffic. The plaintiff could have filed a motion to win on liability automatically, his lawyer didn't either just out of laziness or hoping that talking about the accident would get his client, who either wasn't really hurt and just claiming "soft tissue bs", some sympathy. I admitted the accident was my client's fault and said all we wanted to jury to look at was the plaintiff's claim about getting hurt. Lake is probably going to make some claim that she's not "really" admitting that she lied about all the lies she told about this guy suing her, but that's what's going on. |
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Watched the FBI let Biden and the 51 liars get away with lying to the public , they knew in early 2020 the laptop was real . They then censored MSM and social media with a false narrative that it was Russian disinfo when they knew it was true . All proven , yea , I'd trust what .gov told me .
Laugh , meme on and deny it wasn't rigged . |
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Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: So the "fact" that there isn't "actual evidence" of conspiracy theory is therefore IRREFUTABLE proof of said "conspiracy" Bigger_Hammer View Quote Always. This is the way it’s done here. She lost. She said there was fraud. The end. Everyone else is a liar and cheat and works for china and Putin and wants to put us in a rail car. |
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Originally Posted By AdLucem: Yeah, she's essentially admitting she lied and had no evidence to back her accusations of ballot stuffing... She's trying too avoid the publicity and embarrassment of an actual trial that she knows she will lose. Richer is going to get paid and her chances of winning a senate seat are down the tubes... another blow to the party... Half of GD doesn't care and will vote for her anyway.... but that is not how we win seats View Quote The actual corruption and real frauds going on over there were so legion that there was never a need to make anything up about it. Just telling the truth was scandalous enough. |
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Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: FFS, some of You "guys" sould like Total & Complete Idiots. It's embarrassing. Democrats high five each other Everytime Trump & Chumps go on and on about "Stolen elections" & wacky conspiracy shit. Batshit Crazy lies from Sidney Powell, Rudy Giuliani, Mike Lindell & Kari Lake drive voters away from Republican candidates & win elections for Democrats. (See Georgia Senate Runoff 2020 & Republican Trump Senate massacre in the 2022 mid terms Bigger_Hammer View Quote Been trying to tell them. Hard truths don't go over well though. |
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Originally Posted By GutWrench: We all know something was afoot in the election in relation to fraud, especially in Arizona where their voting laws are very frail. But again its kind of crazy non of these people were able to find anything substantial to bring before a court of law. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By GutWrench: Originally Posted By Duck_Hunt: Originally Posted By GutWrench: Ahh well. She started off strong. Ended up just being a failure. That list is rather long at this point. We all know something was afoot in the election in relation to fraud, especially in Arizona where their voting laws are very frail. But again its kind of crazy non of these people were able to find anything substantial to bring before a court of law. You're making a mistake. You presume that the courts want to see election cases, especially when they know that if they do they could very well be overturning "election" results. Look into how much laches and standing were used. |
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Originally Posted By NDHojo: FFS some of you guys sound like Democrats. It's embarrassing. View Quote |
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Send her to me for a spanking.
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It's like this thread is taking place in some weird alternate reality where "Cyber Ninjas" is a thing that never happened.
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Prohibition doesn't work.
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Originally Posted By AdLucem: Name calling again? Acknowledging that yet another member of the party has imploded is just an unfortunate fact. Its this factual denial that is costing us seats.... Did you not not notice that we lost Alabama by 30 points yesterday?!? a red state. Cling to your conspiracy theory, avoid reality and name call members who don't have their heads in the sand. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/15577/opinion-701781-2658049.png View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AdLucem: Originally Posted By NDHojo: FFS some of you guys sound like Democrats. It's embarrassing. Name calling again? Acknowledging that yet another member of the party has imploded is just an unfortunate fact. Its this factual denial that is costing us seats.... Did you not not notice that we lost Alabama by 30 points yesterday?!? a red state. Cling to your conspiracy theory, avoid reality and name call members who don't have their heads in the sand. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/15577/opinion-701781-2658049.png God damn.. really? |
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Originally Posted By CreamCheesePizza: Maricopa county GOP conspired to lose their own election? I'm constantly impressed by the pretzel shapes you denier jokes can tie yourself into. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By CreamCheesePizza: Originally Posted By Seadra_tha_Guineapig: yes and the maricopa county gope were in on it because she threatened to expose their complicity in the 2020 election fraud Maricopa county GOP conspired to lose their own election? I'm constantly impressed by the pretzel shapes you denier jokes can tie yourself into. I suspect you are smarter than this and just being a blatant troll. The GOP hates Trump. So when Trump and his allies are in the race as Republicans, the GOP itself is indeed trying to lose the election, in order to torpedo the Trump aligned candidates. |
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No doubt the DNC posters are all up in this thread.
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Originally Posted By MikeJGA: So, Rudy, Sidney and Kari had the chance to prove vote fraud in open court and every one of them admitted they had no evidence and were full of shit. I am Gob smacked! View Quote I followed it pretty closely, and her beef was always with the people who are 1)Allegedly crooked, 2)Control access to the actual evidence, 3)Destroyed as much of it as they could when it became clear there would be pushback, and 4)Refused to grant access to that evidence with zero repurcussions. It's not possible to win any kind of legal challenge when your opponent has all the evidence, refuses to show it to you, and never gets called out on it. |
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Originally Posted By scrambler28: Send her to me for a spanking. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By TheKill: I suspect you are smarter than this and just being a blatant troll. The GOP hates Trump. So when Trump and his allies are in the race as Republicans, the GOP itself is indeed trying to lose the election, in order to torpedo the Trump aligned candidates. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TheKill: Originally Posted By CreamCheesePizza: Originally Posted By Seadra_tha_Guineapig: yes and the maricopa county gope were in on it because she threatened to expose their complicity in the 2020 election fraud Maricopa county GOP conspired to lose their own election? I'm constantly impressed by the pretzel shapes you denier jokes can tie yourself into. I suspect you are smarter than this and just being a blatant troll. The GOP hates Trump. So when Trump and his allies are in the race as Republicans, the GOP itself is indeed trying to lose the election, in order to torpedo the Trump aligned candidates. |
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Originally Posted By TheKill: I suspect you are smarter than this and just being a blatant troll. The GOP hates Trump. So when Trump and his allies are in the race as Republicans, the GOP itself is indeed trying to lose the election, in order to torpedo the Trump aligned candidates. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TheKill: Originally Posted By CreamCheesePizza: Originally Posted By Seadra_tha_Guineapig: yes and the maricopa county gope were in on it because she threatened to expose their complicity in the 2020 election fraud Maricopa county GOP conspired to lose their own election? I'm constantly impressed by the pretzel shapes you denier jokes can tie yourself into. I suspect you are smarter than this and just being a blatant troll. The GOP hates Trump. So when Trump and his allies are in the race as Republicans, the GOP itself is indeed trying to lose the election, in order to torpedo the Trump aligned candidates. |
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People really need to understand how to use squishy language to avoid defamation suits. One must avoid stating things to be facts if there is no backup for the statement. Lots of "in my opinion" goes a long way in mitigating defamation claims.
I always thought that everything I said was my opinion and it was not necessary to use the squishy language. Au contraire. |
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Originally Posted By GutWrench: So she filed for discovery and they refused to provide it, defying the courts order or did it just not exist? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By GutWrench: Originally Posted By crashburnrepeat: Because she made claims and has been unable to get access to evidence. She might also be running out of money to fight. She's probably burned millions trying to fight this and suspect she's running our of money So she filed for discovery and they refused to provide it, defying the courts order or did it just not exist? In order to prove what she alleges, you would have to trace every ballot back to a valid voter. With the way the mail in process works, it's impossible to do that. The "voter" "certifies" their ballot by signing the envelope. The very first thing that they do when they receive the ballots for counting, is to open up the envelope, and separate the envelope from the ballot. This sanitizes the ballot and makes it impossible to confirm it's validity! Once they have been separated, the ballot is assumed to be valid and there is no way to even determine who cast that ballot. It's a perfect setup for cheating at a grand scale if you do not have robust accountability at the counting places. Which explains the ones where Republicans were thrown out. There are some statistical ways to prove things, but again, they refused all along to allow the Right access to any of the evidence. Hell the Legislature demanded that they turn over just about everything for the "full audit" and the Board told them, repeatedly, to fuck off. |
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People really need to understand how to use squishy language to avoid defamation suits. One must avoid stating things to be facts if there is no backup for the statement. Lots of "in my opinion" goes a long way in mitigating defamation claims.
I always thought that everything I said was my opinion and it was not necessary to use the squishy language. Au contraire. |
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First you convince yourself that something happened
Then you say that the thing happened because of a conspiracy to make it happen. Then, when you can't find any evidence of the thing, you say that proves the existence of the conspiracy. Because if there wasn't a conspiracy, you could find the evidence |
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Originally Posted By TheKill: In order to prove what she alleges, you would have to trace every ballot back to a valid voter. With the way the mail in process works, it's impossible to do that. The "voter" "certifies" their ballot by signing the envelope. The very first thing that they do when they receive the ballots for counting, is to open up the envelope, and separate the envelope from the ballot. This sanitizes the ballot and makes it impossible to confirm it's validity! Once they have been separated, the ballot is assumed to be valid and there is no way to even determine who cast that ballot. It's a perfect setup for cheating at a grand scale if you do not have robust accountability at the counting places. Which explains the ones where Republicans were thrown out. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TheKill: Originally Posted By GutWrench: Originally Posted By crashburnrepeat: Because she made claims and has been unable to get access to evidence. She might also be running out of money to fight. She's probably burned millions trying to fight this and suspect she's running our of money So she filed for discovery and they refused to provide it, defying the courts order or did it just not exist? In order to prove what she alleges, you would have to trace every ballot back to a valid voter. With the way the mail in process works, it's impossible to do that. The "voter" "certifies" their ballot by signing the envelope. The very first thing that they do when they receive the ballots for counting, is to open up the envelope, and separate the envelope from the ballot. This sanitizes the ballot and makes it impossible to confirm it's validity! Once they have been separated, the ballot is assumed to be valid and there is no way to even determine who cast that ballot. It's a perfect setup for cheating at a grand scale if you do not have robust accountability at the counting places. Which explains the ones where Republicans were thrown out. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Morlawn66: Watched the FBI let Biden and the 51 liars get away with lying to the public , they knew in early 2020 the laptop was real . They then censored MSM and social media with a false narrative that it was Russian disinfo when they knew it was true . All proven , yea , I'd trust what .gov told me . Laugh , meme on and deny it wasn't rigged . View Quote Right? I'll be over here waiting for the "Holy 51" Intelligence "experts" to be tried for the depth and breadth of their bullshit letter. |
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Originally Posted By JLH3: First you convince yourself that something happened Then you say that the thing happened because of a conspiracy to make it happen. Then, when you can't find any evidence of the thing, you say that proves the existence of the conspiracy. Because if there wasn't a conspiracy, you could find the evidence View Quote Pretty much. These people were duped hard and are unable to deal with that mentally. |
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Originally Posted By Low_Country: The liars are the ones claiming piles of evidence to prove the stolen election. Like Lake, Gulianni, and Powell. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Low_Country: Originally Posted By Morlawn66: And government lies go unchallenged ? The liars are the ones claiming piles of evidence to prove the stolen election. Like Lake, Gulianni, and Powell. Two weeks!! Irrefutable evidence report!! |
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Originally Posted By JLH3: First you convince yourself that something happened Then you say that the thing happened because of a conspiracy to make it happen. Then, when you can't find any evidence of the thing, you say that proves the existence of the conspiracy. Because if there wasn't a conspiracy, you could find the evidence View Quote They've been primed to believe in grand conspiracies for decades now. That, and the fact that in the post 9/11 world the government has greatly expanded it's monitoring processes, which gives credence to many conspiracy thoeries. |
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Originally Posted By Low_Country: The liars are the ones claiming piles of evidence to prove the stolen election. Like Lake, Gulianni, and Powell. View Quote You are claiming that Biden and DOJ didn't lie about the laptop ? They verified it was real through his Icloud account in early 2020 yet kept up the disinfo narrative . |
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