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Link Posted: 3/27/2024 3:08:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NachoDip:
She is correct. Maybe some people in here need a history lesson.

let’s not get facts in the way. Is she a dumb bitch. Yes. Is her statement correct… also yes.
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Her insinuation that our opposition to her party's systematic degeneracy places us firmly in the Nazi camp is astonishingly stupid.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 3:23:31 PM EDT
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We can compare like and unlike things. Or compare how things are alike and not, even when it has no real merit.
I would not say it is similar, even though there could be a final solution to the pedo and pedo materials in schools problem.

There just is not a group of people organized who have the power to implement anywhere near such level of a plan.. so again, dissimilar.

What about the similarities to what would be grooming of children or subversive campaigns?


Link Posted: 3/27/2024 3:27:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ar15joe:


wrong link because she says nothing of the sort

Paraphrasing:
she talks about "democracy goes away a little at a time / slowly"
then says something about LGBTQ in Germany having their rights taken away, then "another group" and "another" etc
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jfc



wrong link because she says nothing of the sort

Paraphrasing:
she talks about "democracy goes away a little at a time / slowly"
then says something about LGBTQ in Germany having their rights taken away, then "another group" and "another" etc


Yup, bullshit link and thread title.

Would  like her to do gun rights which is actually  in the Constitution  though before made up pretend rights.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 3:31:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ar15joe:


wrong link because she says nothing of the sort

Paraphrasing:
she talks about "democracy goes away a little at a time / slowly"
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They should know, they are doing the same thing against our rights.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 3:33:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SlipRing:
She's right. The Nazis in old Germany burned pedos, groomers, Communists and troons "books." The Allies burned the Nazis' records in turn after the war btw. I can't help but wonder how much of that was covering for the Communists they went to war to save.
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Now you know why so many them opposed us joining the war, and why so many of us view it as the start of the decline of the West @SlipRing , saveing Communism? It’s like saving a Xenomorph what possible good could come from this?
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 3:36:10 PM EDT
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She's right. That's precisely the kind of shit they burned and censored.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 3:49:24 PM EDT
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Speaking of “Dr Jill Biden”, has anybody ever been able to find out what her “research institute” actually does other than act as a money laundering operation? Or is that another aspect of the Biden crime family that, like Bernie Sanders’ wife and her loan fraud, were not allowed to talk about? Just asking…
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 4:33:55 PM EDT
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Ummm  that's not true. Do you know where/when the first sex change surgery occurred?
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Nope, and this thread has been educational. I literally had no idea.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 4:47:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MeInMediocrity:
Did Jill Biden really get a doctorate in education?  Was it from the Corn Pop School of Educatin'?  
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She received an honorary doctorate. So she never actually did the required work.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 5:25:24 PM EDT
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They want to fuck kids, and then kill their babies.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 5:40:31 PM EDT
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Her and Joe and that whole fucking family needs to be in prison for the crimes they've committed against this country and its people.

I may honestly cheer when they all die. Fuck ALL of them!
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 5:52:28 PM EDT
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The same dumb cunt who lets her husband shower with their daughter?  Oh, well that’s good to know…..
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 6:42:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BikerNut:


She received an honorary doctorate. So she never actually did the required work.
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And she insists on being called 'Dr'?


Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:19:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wayno945:
This tranny mental illness stuff started in Germany in the 1930s.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Magnus-Hirschfeld
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He was perfectly in step with his contemporaries.

The Prussian military generals and officers, really their whole class and cadre, was heavily homosexual, going back even before German unification.

Even Friedrich Alfred "Fritz" Krupp, of the famous firm, had his own retreat villa on Capri where he could carry on with literally dozens of teen guys, away (mostly) from prying eyes.  

Eventually, Fritz got too bold and carefree with his peccadilloes, to the point that the local authorities couldn't continue to turn a blind eye to what was going on, and the wheels came off, sparking a serious scandal that brought much of the raging perversion in the officer class into public discussion in the euro press.  

It was a scandal, all right; however it was not a surprise.

The whole thing was a case of a best/worst-kept secret.  It really put the German government in a bind, because homosexuality was against the law in the Reich, but who was going to prosecute?

The practice of the male aristocrats having affairs with each other was nothing new, and a big part of the reason homosexuality was known by the  euphemism "the German vice".

Manchester covers all of that, and a lot more, in his "The Arms of Krupp". The chapter is titled 'Oscar Wilde of the Second Reich'.  


Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:30:27 PM EDT
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And she insists on being called 'Dr'?


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She received an honorary doctorate. So she never actually did the required work.


And she insists on being called 'Dr'?





Kinda, she has an Ed.D, a doctorate in education, not an actual PhD.  She had to write a paper but it's not an actual dissertation that has to be defended like a PhD.  

Even a "Senior Contributor" to Forbes, Natalie Wexler ("I write about education, cognitive science, and fairness") doesn't really make the case for respect that she attempts to; in fact, I'd say the article/opinion piece just reinforces the disdain from real PhDs. (Left cold, because forbes)  https://www.forbes.com/sites/nataliewexler/2020/12/18/whats-really-behind-the-flap-over-jill-bidens-doctorate/?sh=29343b936089

I'd like to run her paper through one of the newer plagiarism checkers, although it sounds like the paper is vague enough that it probably wouldn't get flagged.  Joe on the other hand is well known for his lying and plagiarizing.  I'd bet money it's one of the reasons why both obamas college work was hidden away as well.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:43:03 PM EDT
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Is her doctorate in elder abuse or pedophilia?
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:53:52 PM EDT
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So what does Jill get out of it sexually?
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 7:55:04 PM EDT
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Fine
Call me whatever you want
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 8:09:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ZuoZongtang:
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Probably Hunter, the pool boy, some secret service agents, etc.  Not like she wears age or position appropriate attire and she's married to an alleged pedo and she's younger than Joe (remember she was his kids babysitter with his first wife) so I can't imagine she isn't a freak as well.  Honestly, not something I think most of us want to think about.  
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 8:19:11 PM EDT
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You took the words right out of my mouth.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 8:21:42 PM EDT
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Kinda, she has an Ed.D, a doctorate in education, not an actual PhD.  She had to write a paper but it's not an actual dissertation that has to be defended like a PhD.  

Even a "Senior Contributor" to Forbes, Natalie Wexler ("I write about education, cognitive science, and fairness") doesn't really make the case for respect that she attempts to; in fact, I'd say the article/opinion piece just reinforces the disdain from real PhDs. (Left cold, because forbes)  https://www.forbes.com/sites/nataliewexler/2020/12/18/whats-really-behind-the-flap-over-jill-bidens-doctorate/?sh=29343b936089

I'd like to run her paper through one of the newer plagiarism checkers, although it sounds like the paper is vague enough that it probably wouldn't get flagged.  Joe on the other hand is well known for his lying and plagiarizing.  I'd bet money it's one of the reasons why both obamas college work was hidden away as well.
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Originally Posted By Kihn:
Originally Posted By BikerNut:


She received an honorary doctorate. So she never actually did the required work.


And she insists on being called 'Dr'?





Kinda, she has an Ed.D, a doctorate in education, not an actual PhD.  She had to write a paper but it's not an actual dissertation that has to be defended like a PhD.  

Even a "Senior Contributor" to Forbes, Natalie Wexler ("I write about education, cognitive science, and fairness") doesn't really make the case for respect that she attempts to; in fact, I'd say the article/opinion piece just reinforces the disdain from real PhDs. (Left cold, because forbes)  https://www.forbes.com/sites/nataliewexler/2020/12/18/whats-really-behind-the-flap-over-jill-bidens-doctorate/?sh=29343b936089

I'd like to run her paper through one of the newer plagiarism checkers, although it sounds like the paper is vague enough that it probably wouldn't get flagged.  Joe on the other hand is well known for his lying and plagiarizing.  I'd bet money it's one of the reasons why both obamas college work was hidden away as well.


If she insists on being addressed that way, it's kind of low rent.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 8:29:35 PM EDT
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Can’t read twatter comments without an account

Don’t want a twatter account.

Assuming they’re probably in support of of Doctor Jill Babysitters BS.

America is dead. Plan accordingly.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 8:33:32 PM EDT
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"When I stormed the beach at Normandy, I knew that even if I died, it would be worth it because my great grandkids could read porn in the school library." - Grandpa, probably.
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My grandfather fought his way across North Africa into Italy and found himself in France on D Day.

He died in 2005. I’m kinda glad for him he didn’t live to see today.

I wonder if the wrong side lost. I wonder if he’d wonder that too.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 8:38:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kihn:


If she insists on being addressed that way, it's kind of low rent.
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Originally Posted By sandboxmedic:
Originally Posted By Kihn:
Originally Posted By BikerNut:


She received an honorary doctorate. So she never actually did the required work.


And she insists on being called 'Dr'?





Kinda, she has an Ed.D, a doctorate in education, not an actual PhD.  She had to write a paper but it's not an actual dissertation that has to be defended like a PhD.  

Even a "Senior Contributor" to Forbes, Natalie Wexler ("I write about education, cognitive science, and fairness") doesn't really make the case for respect that she attempts to; in fact, I'd say the article/opinion piece just reinforces the disdain from real PhDs. (Left cold, because forbes)  https://www.forbes.com/sites/nataliewexler/2020/12/18/whats-really-behind-the-flap-over-jill-bidens-doctorate/?sh=29343b936089

I'd like to run her paper through one of the newer plagiarism checkers, although it sounds like the paper is vague enough that it probably wouldn't get flagged.  Joe on the other hand is well known for his lying and plagiarizing.  I'd bet money it's one of the reasons why both obamas college work was hidden away as well.


If she insists on being addressed that way, it's kind of low rent.


Outside of an academic setting or when signing off on something where credentialing is expected, insisting on being referred to as "doctor/Dr." when you're not an MD seems to generally be frowned upon by most folks.  These days, even most MDs I know don't want to be referred to as "Dr." outside of work as they don't want the hassle or liability.
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Originally Posted By sandboxmedic:


Outside of an academic setting or when signing off on something where credentialing is expected, insisting on being referred to as "doctor/Dr." when you're not an MD seems to generally be frowned upon by most folks.  These days, even most MDs I know don't want to be referred to as "Dr." outside of work as they don't want the hassle or liability.
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Originally Posted By Kihn:
Originally Posted By sandboxmedic:
Originally Posted By Kihn:
Originally Posted By BikerNut:


She received an honorary doctorate. So she never actually did the required work.


And she insists on being called 'Dr'?





Kinda, she has an Ed.D, a doctorate in education, not an actual PhD.  She had to write a paper but it's not an actual dissertation that has to be defended like a PhD.  

Even a "Senior Contributor" to Forbes, Natalie Wexler ("I write about education, cognitive science, and fairness") doesn't really make the case for respect that she attempts to; in fact, I'd say the article/opinion piece just reinforces the disdain from real PhDs. (Left cold, because forbes)  https://www.forbes.com/sites/nataliewexler/2020/12/18/whats-really-behind-the-flap-over-jill-bidens-doctorate/?sh=29343b936089

I'd like to run her paper through one of the newer plagiarism checkers, although it sounds like the paper is vague enough that it probably wouldn't get flagged.  Joe on the other hand is well known for his lying and plagiarizing.  I'd bet money it's one of the reasons why both obamas college work was hidden away as well.


If she insists on being addressed that way, it's kind of low rent.


Outside of an academic setting or when signing off on something where credentialing is expected, insisting on being referred to as "doctor/Dr." when you're not an MD seems to generally be frowned upon by most folks.  These days, even most MDs I know don't want to be referred to as "Dr." outside of work as they don't want the hassle or liability.

I have a client that has got to be one of the dumbest people I have ever dealt with in my professional life and he is one of those people. No idea what he supposedly has a doctorate in, but he should sue the place that he got it from for fraud for determining that he is fit to be awarded with a doctorate degree in anything.
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Outside of an academic setting or when signing off on something where credentialing is expected, insisting on being referred to as "doctor/Dr." when you're not an MD seems to generally be frowned upon by most folks.  These days, even most MDs I know don't want to be referred to as "Dr." outside of work as they don't want the hassle or liability.
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Originally Posted By 56xdx_Z:
Maybe she is right. Weimar germany had all kinds of weird perversions going on, which the Nazis gained clout by cleaning up. The crazed leftists of the 1920s era in Germany had public bestiality by the end of it, and they ultimately aided hitler's rise by giving him an easy and obvious boogieman
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Yep.

She's just saying the part that is typically kept quiet out loud.

Weimar Germany was super fucked up, even by today's standards. It's most of the reason I want these people nowhere near relevance. We have historical precedent showing where this leads. We don't want anything to do with it, on either side of the pendulum. Some seem determined to go through that all again.
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Originally Posted By CouncilOfDave:
Yep.

She's just saying the part that us typically kept quiet out loud.

Weimar Germany was super fucked up, even by today's standards. It's most of the reason I want these people nowhere near relevance. We have historical precedent showing where this leads. We don't want anything to do with it, on either side of the pendulum. Some seem determined to go through that all again.
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Only problem is the use of the binary of two choices,  of the Left being Weimar Germany and the Right being Hitler. It's the Left who is engaged in authoritarianism. Trying to eliminate its political opposition. Ending free speech and engaging in censorship. Controlling the education system as a device of indoctrination. Of using a court system separate from one of traditional legal remedies. Of using the state's intelligence apparatus as an enforcement tool of the party, to silence its critics and punish its enemies. Of ending border security and allowing abuses of the citizenry for a greater calling. Of engaging in bending the mind of others to their will, i.e. 200 genders, women can have penises and men can have babies. The Left is Hitler.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 9:25:40 PM EDT
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Nope, and this thread has been educational. I literally had no idea.
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Ummm  that's not true. Do you know where/when the first sex change surgery occurred?
Nope, and this thread has been educational. I literally had no idea.


It’s pretty crazy that I grew up knowing the nazis were book burning haters of knowledge, and never once thought to look up what books they burned. I was well into my late 30s when my nephew asked me ”what books are the nazis burning?” while watching Indiana Jones The Last Crusade (he was innocently just curious).

I thought for a second and said, I honestly don’t know. Then I did some research. And was blown away by what I found.
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Only problem is the use of the binary of two choices,  of the Left being Weimar Germany and the Right being Hitler. It's the Left who is engaged in authoritarianism. Trying to eliminate its political opposition. Ending free speech and engaging in censorship. Controlling the education system as a device of indoctrination. Of using a court system separate from one of traditional legal remedies. Of using the state's intelligence apparatus as an enforcement tool of the party, to silence its critics and punish its enemies. Of ending border security and allowing abuses of the citizenry for a greater calling. Of engaging in bending the mind of others to their will, i.e. 200 genders, women can have penises and men can have babies. The Left is Hitler.
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Originally Posted By CouncilOfDave:
Yep.

She's just saying the part that us typically kept quiet out loud.

Weimar Germany was super fucked up, even by today's standards. It's most of the reason I want these people nowhere near relevance. We have historical precedent showing where this leads. We don't want anything to do with it, on either side of the pendulum. Some seem determined to go through that all again.


Only problem is the use of the binary of two choices,  of the Left being Weimar Germany and the Right being Hitler. It's the Left who is engaged in authoritarianism. Trying to eliminate its political opposition. Ending free speech and engaging in censorship. Controlling the education system as a device of indoctrination. Of using a court system separate from one of traditional legal remedies. Of using the state's intelligence apparatus as an enforcement tool of the party, to silence its critics and punish its enemies. Of ending border security and allowing abuses of the citizenry for a greater calling. Of engaging in bending the mind of others to their will, i.e. 200 genders, women can have penises and men can have babies. The Left is Hitler.
I don't see it that way at all, so please don't read that into my post.

No, the Right isn't Hitler.

Someone eventually may well be, though.
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Only problem is the use of the binary of two choices,  of the Left being Weimar Germany and the Right being Hitler. It's the Left who is engaged in authoritarianism. Trying to eliminate its political opposition. Ending free speech and engaging in censorship. Controlling the education system as a device of indoctrination. Of using a court system separate from one of traditional legal remedies. Of using the state's intelligence apparatus as an enforcement tool of the party, to silence its critics and punish its enemies. Of ending border security and allowing abuses of the citizenry for a greater calling. Of engaging in bending the mind of others to their will, i.e. 200 genders, women can have penises and men can have babies. The Left is Hitler.
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Originally Posted By CouncilOfDave:
Yep.

She's just saying the part that us typically kept quiet out loud.

Weimar Germany was super fucked up, even by today's standards. It's most of the reason I want these people nowhere near relevance. We have historical precedent showing where this leads. We don't want anything to do with it, on either side of the pendulum. Some seem determined to go through that all again.


Only problem is the use of the binary of two choices,  of the Left being Weimar Germany and the Right being Hitler. It's the Left who is engaged in authoritarianism. Trying to eliminate its political opposition. Ending free speech and engaging in censorship. Controlling the education system as a device of indoctrination. Of using a court system separate from one of traditional legal remedies. Of using the state's intelligence apparatus as an enforcement tool of the party, to silence its critics and punish its enemies. Of ending border security and allowing abuses of the citizenry for a greater calling. Of engaging in bending the mind of others to their will, i.e. 200 genders, women can have penises and men can have babies. The Left is Hitler.


I don’t know about that. I’m now at the point that if someone came into power and was wanting to execute doctors that provide hormones, “puberty blockers”, and perform sex operations on minors, as well as adults that continue to push these perversions on children with books and dancing trannies exposing their genitalia…

I could possibly be convinced to support them (the hypothetical person that would execute the pervs. I don’t support the pervs). In case you haven’t noticed, these things, and worse, are all being done in the open, in many cases against the will of at least one of the parents. And all that’s being done to combat it is talk.
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Maybe that German guy with the funny mustache was right about a few things after all.
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I don't see it that way at all, so please don't read that into my post.

No, the Right isn't Hitler.

Someone eventually may well be, though.
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Originally Posted By Kihn:
Originally Posted By CouncilOfDave:
Yep.

She's just saying the part that us typically kept quiet out loud.

Weimar Germany was super fucked up, even by today's standards. It's most of the reason I want these people nowhere near relevance. We have historical precedent showing where this leads. We don't want anything to do with it, on either side of the pendulum. Some seem determined to go through that all again.


Only problem is the use of the binary of two choices,  of the Left being Weimar Germany and the Right being Hitler. It's the Left who is engaged in authoritarianism. Trying to eliminate its political opposition. Ending free speech and engaging in censorship. Controlling the education system as a device of indoctrination. Of using a court system separate from one of traditional legal remedies. Of using the state's intelligence apparatus as an enforcement tool of the party, to silence its critics and punish its enemies. Of ending border security and allowing abuses of the citizenry for a greater calling. Of engaging in bending the mind of others to their will, i.e. 200 genders, women can have penises and men can have babies. The Left is Hitler.
I don't see it that way at all, so please don't read that into my post.

No, the Right isn't Hitler.

Someone eventually may well be, though.


In addition to having never looking into what books the Nazis burned, I also had never listened to an Hitler speech. Until last week when there were several posted on twitter with ai audio translations. I can’t imagine many here would disagree with the things Hitler was saying.
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I don't see it that way at all, so please don't read that into my post.

No, the Right isn't Hitler.

Someone eventually may well be, though.
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Originally Posted By CouncilOfDave:
Yep.

She's just saying the part that us typically kept quiet out loud.

Weimar Germany was super fucked up, even by today's standards. It's most of the reason I want these people nowhere near relevance. We have historical precedent showing where this leads. We don't want anything to do with it, on either side of the pendulum. Some seem determined to go through that all again.


Only problem is the use of the binary of two choices,  of the Left being Weimar Germany and the Right being Hitler. It's the Left who is engaged in authoritarianism. Trying to eliminate its political opposition. Ending free speech and engaging in censorship. Controlling the education system as a device of indoctrination. Of using a court system separate from one of traditional legal remedies. Of using the state's intelligence apparatus as an enforcement tool of the party, to silence its critics and punish its enemies. Of ending border security and allowing abuses of the citizenry for a greater calling. Of engaging in bending the mind of others to their will, i.e. 200 genders, women can have penises and men can have babies. The Left is Hitler.
I don't see it that way at all, so please don't read that into my post.

No, the Right isn't Hitler.

Someone eventually may well be, though.


Well, you and I know that. But that is not what she is selling. This is an association made for many, many decades. And most don't know the difference either. Adorno's 'Authoritarian Personality'.

they really are terrible labels. But that's 'democracy'.

Hitler being labeled the Right (side of Socialism) is not necessarily wrong.
Georg Strasser and Joseph Goebbels were hard left.
Ernst Rohm was the perpetual never-ending leftist revolutionary.
But that ended in summer of 1934 when they went all one form Fascist after the purging (which still seems weird when Mussolini said he would always be a socialist after becoming dictator)



The Nazi Party before 1933 had at least 3 factions competing...
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Check her doctorate thesis?
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I don’t know about that. I’m now at the point that if someone came into power and was wanting to execute doctors that provide hormones, “puberty blockers”, and perform sex operations on minors, as well as adults that continue to push these perversions on children with books and dancing trannies exposing their genitalia…

I could possibly be convinced to support them (the hypothetical person that would execute the pervs. I don’t support the pervs). In case you haven’t noticed, these things, and worse, are all being done in the open, in many cases against the will of at least one of the parents. And all that’s being done to combat it is talk.
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Originally Posted By Kihn:
Originally Posted By CouncilOfDave:
Yep.

She's just saying the part that us typically kept quiet out loud.

Weimar Germany was super fucked up, even by today's standards. It's most of the reason I want these people nowhere near relevance. We have historical precedent showing where this leads. We don't want anything to do with it, on either side of the pendulum. Some seem determined to go through that all again.


Only problem is the use of the binary of two choices,  of the Left being Weimar Germany and the Right being Hitler. It's the Left who is engaged in authoritarianism. Trying to eliminate its political opposition. Ending free speech and engaging in censorship. Controlling the education system as a device of indoctrination. Of using a court system separate from one of traditional legal remedies. Of using the state's intelligence apparatus as an enforcement tool of the party, to silence its critics and punish its enemies. Of ending border security and allowing abuses of the citizenry for a greater calling. Of engaging in bending the mind of others to their will, i.e. 200 genders, women can have penises and men can have babies. The Left is Hitler.


I don’t know about that. I’m now at the point that if someone came into power and was wanting to execute doctors that provide hormones, “puberty blockers”, and perform sex operations on minors, as well as adults that continue to push these perversions on children with books and dancing trannies exposing their genitalia…

I could possibly be convinced to support them (the hypothetical person that would execute the pervs. I don’t support the pervs). In case you haven’t noticed, these things, and worse, are all being done in the open, in many cases against the will of at least one of the parents. And all that’s being done to combat it is talk.


Which makes today's Left Hitler. Surprisingly, Hitler's Nazi Party won the majority plurality in 1932 (enabling him to become Chancellor and eventually become dictator) because of the woman's vote. Karen got us here where we are today. Coincidence?
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 9:41:03 PM EDT
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She is a bigger perv than joe.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 9:52:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kihn:


Which makes today's Left Hitler. Surprisingly, Hitler's Nazi Party won the majority plurality in 1932 (enabling him to become Chancellor and eventually become dictator) because of the woman's vote. Karen got us here where we are today. Coincidence?
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Originally Posted By Kihn:
Originally Posted By Waynehead05:
Originally Posted By Kihn:
Originally Posted By CouncilOfDave:
Yep.

She's just saying the part that us typically kept quiet out loud.

Weimar Germany was super fucked up, even by today's standards. It's most of the reason I want these people nowhere near relevance. We have historical precedent showing where this leads. We don't want anything to do with it, on either side of the pendulum. Some seem determined to go through that all again.


Only problem is the use of the binary of two choices,  of the Left being Weimar Germany and the Right being Hitler. It's the Left who is engaged in authoritarianism. Trying to eliminate its political opposition. Ending free speech and engaging in censorship. Controlling the education system as a device of indoctrination. Of using a court system separate from one of traditional legal remedies. Of using the state's intelligence apparatus as an enforcement tool of the party, to silence its critics and punish its enemies. Of ending border security and allowing abuses of the citizenry for a greater calling. Of engaging in bending the mind of others to their will, i.e. 200 genders, women can have penises and men can have babies. The Left is Hitler.


I don’t know about that. I’m now at the point that if someone came into power and was wanting to execute doctors that provide hormones, “puberty blockers”, and perform sex operations on minors, as well as adults that continue to push these perversions on children with books and dancing trannies exposing their genitalia…

I could possibly be convinced to support them (the hypothetical person that would execute the pervs. I don’t support the pervs). In case you haven’t noticed, these things, and worse, are all being done in the open, in many cases against the will of at least one of the parents. And all that’s being done to combat it is talk.


Which makes today's Left Hitler. Surprisingly, Hitler's Nazi Party won the majority plurality in 1932 (enabling him to become Chancellor and eventually become dictator) because of the woman's vote. Karen got us here where we are today. Coincidence?


Are you trying to say that Hitler got the majority of women’s vote? Because I will disagree with that statement, wholeheartedly. The Weimar Republic was all about women’s rights, and that women can and should do everything men do. Which is exactly what the left pushes today.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 9:54:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JimEN:
What the fuck is wrong with these people?

Are they fucking serious?
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What's even worse that that is the people who go along with this.

Link Posted: 3/27/2024 9:56:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 56xdx_Z:
Maybe she is right. Weimar germany had all kinds of weird perversions going on, which the Nazis gained clout by cleaning up. The crazed leftists of the 1920s era in Germany had public bestiality by the end of it, and they ultimately aided hitler's rise by giving him an easy and obvious boogieman
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The Nazis had some known homosexuals in high positions too, like Ernst Rohm.
They were all over the place.

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Originally Posted By Waynehead05:


Are you trying to say that Hitler got the majority of women’s vote? Because I will disagree with that statement, wholeheartedly. The Weimar Republic was all about women’s rights, and that women can and should do everything men do. Which is exactly what the left pushes today.
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Yes. the Women's vote on issues of the economy (1929 depression) gave the Nazi party plurality majority (parliamentary multi-party government instituted by the Treaty of Versailles) during parliamentary voting in 1932. For the first time, the Nazis had more deputies than any other party (7-8 of them). the Communists came in right behind them. And Zentrum not far behind that.

A bunch of political fuckery by Hindenburg's Reichsrat put them through three chancellors in 4-5 months. Hitler maneuvered his way into the Chancellor's job by outsmarting the Reichsrat fuckery that thought he was an idiot and could control him. Then Hitler went all dictator after staging the Reichstag fire within a month of getting the job. The women's vote in 1932 gave him the leverage to do all that.

Generally speaking, German women were rather traditional. Conservative. family oriented. Before Nazism. Nazism gave them work (later war years), promoted out-of-wedlock babymaking, rewarded them for service as mothers and defenders of the German mythos. The Gestapo did not really prosecute morality things on them because they were blood Germans. Unless they pissed off somebody special or were making a fuss running counter to the Nazi narrative. If they kept it within bounds there was no problem. Their behavior, in a general sense for single women,  was supposedly scandalous on the Strength Through Joy voyages (Gestapo reports).  
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 10:04:51 PM EDT
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The Nazis had some known homosexuals in high positions too, like Ernst Rohm.
They were all over the place.

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Maybe she is right. Weimar germany had all kinds of weird perversions going on, which the Nazis gained clout by cleaning up. The crazed leftists of the 1920s era in Germany had public bestiality by the end of it, and they ultimately aided hitler's rise by giving him an easy and obvious boogieman



The Nazis had some known homosexuals in high positions too, like Ernst Rohm.
They were all over the place.



SA leadership was chock full of them. Some sick sadistic fuckers too.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 10:09:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kihn:

Well, you and I know that. But that is not what she is selling. This is an association made for many, many decades. And most don't know the difference either. Adorno's 'Authoritarian Personality'.

they really are terrible labels. But that's 'democracy'.

Hitler being labeled the Right (side of Socialism) is not necessarily wrong.
Georg Strasser and Joseph Goebbels were hard left.
Ernst Rohm was the perpetual never-ending leftist revolutionary.
But that ended in summer of 1934 when they went all one form Fascist after the purging (which still seems weird when Mussolini said he would always be a socialist after becoming dictator)

The Nazi Party before 1933 had at least 3 factions competing...
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Originally Posted By Kihn:
Originally Posted By CouncilOfDave:
Originally Posted By Kihn:
Originally Posted By CouncilOfDave:
Yep.

She's just saying the part that us typically kept quiet out loud.

Weimar Germany was super fucked up, even by today's standards. It's most of the reason I want these people nowhere near relevance. We have historical precedent showing where this leads. We don't want anything to do with it, on either side of the pendulum. Some seem determined to go through that all again.

Only problem is the use of the binary of two choices,  of the Left being Weimar Germany and the Right being Hitler. It's the Left who is engaged in authoritarianism. Trying to eliminate its political opposition. Ending free speech and engaging in censorship. Controlling the education system as a device of indoctrination. Of using a court system separate from one of traditional legal remedies. Of using the state's intelligence apparatus as an enforcement tool of the party, to silence its critics and punish its enemies. Of ending border security and allowing abuses of the citizenry for a greater calling. Of engaging in bending the mind of others to their will, i.e. 200 genders, women can have penises and men can have babies. The Left is Hitler.
I don't see it that way at all, so please don't read that into my post.

No, the Right isn't Hitler.

Someone eventually may well be, though.

Well, you and I know that. But that is not what she is selling. This is an association made for many, many decades. And most don't know the difference either. Adorno's 'Authoritarian Personality'.

they really are terrible labels. But that's 'democracy'.

Hitler being labeled the Right (side of Socialism) is not necessarily wrong.
Georg Strasser and Joseph Goebbels were hard left.
Ernst Rohm was the perpetual never-ending leftist revolutionary.
But that ended in summer of 1934 when they went all one form Fascist after the purging (which still seems weird when Mussolini said he would always be a socialist after becoming dictator)

The Nazi Party before 1933 had at least 3 factions competing...
I realize I didn't read your post in the correct context. I'm not well educated, as you're probably aware.

Yeah, what she's selling is bullshit, broadly speaking. How fucking degenerate Germany was during that time is about the only part she got right.

I don't see the left as literally Hitler, either. There's some shared qualities for sure, but it's more of a resemblance than an impersonation.

Shit ain't gonna repeat, but it's gonna rhyme, I guess.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 10:12:40 PM EDT
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Evil
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 10:18:40 PM EDT
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...then one day for no reason at all...

she's not entirely incorrect, she just seem to think the nazi's appeared without reason... and for some even crazier reason seems to think that goading people who are raising warning signs about this, people saying this is all too far, that they are bad people without even considering why they might see it this way...

eventually something will snap and the pendulum will swing... then pejoratives will mean nothing when there is nothing left to lose.
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I realize I didn't read your post in the correct context. I'm not well educated, as you're probably aware.

Yeah, what she's selling is bullshit, broadly speaking. How fucking degenerate Germany was during that time is about the only part she got right.

I don't see the left as literally Hitler, either. There's some shared qualities for sure, but it's more of a resemblance than an impersonation.

Shit ain't gonna repeat, but it's gonna rhyme, I guess.
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This is just an amateur hobby thing for me of recent times. I'm fascinated by it because the common knowledge about Nazism does it injustice as to how absurdly deep and crazy complex it was. I sometimes assume that people have the same POV I had back then. No judgement call on you, again assuming we are aligned about what the Left is. Never felt we were conflicted.

I am saying the Left is much more Hitler because the Right isn't doing authoritarian shit though...
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Its a mystery why Hitler rose to power.
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Its a mystery why Hitler rose to power.
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Or why he remained so popular right up to the end.
Link Posted: 3/27/2024 10:43:37 PM EDT
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She received an honorary doctorate. So she never actually did the required work.
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And that nitwit on The View wanted her made Surgeon General.

What a maroon...

Link Posted: 3/27/2024 10:59:53 PM EDT
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I half listed to that cunt on the radio on the way home the other day, any she sounded horrified that local school boards and school librarians were being held to account by parents, politicians, and conservative activists that don’t want inappropriate, sexually explicit material available to children that you can’t read out loud publicly without being arrested for violating obscenity laws.  

She can fuck right off.  If it came down to a binary choice between allowing our impressionable young to be exposed to such perverted filth, or wearing a brown shirt burning books, well…I know where my priorities are.  

We must as a nation protect the innocent from these fucking heathens and allow them to be children, not expose them to things God never intended for our young to be exposed to.

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