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Posted: 3/25/2024 12:50:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: GrayMan66]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ramairthree: You seem to have me confused with some other generation or person. I have never lost a job or been laid off. I have been sought after. I’m not some loser that went from renting to renting. When I rented in my first apartment I changed oil and manifold gaskets in the parking lot like many others. I passed a SOF pipeline, later became an officer, and was in a nominative select position as the zero two in an O6 tier one command with a three star senior rater. And put in that position while a rank below what the slot authorized. Thanks for letting me know to “do what it takes” and telling me who “my generation” voted for when I was born in the 60s and am a one percenter thinking traditional young American adults and families are getting fucked. I pay about 150K in federal income tax a year. Any more tips? So you overcame the challenges and made something pf yourself. So did I. I rented for 7 years then bought in 1999. Never rented again. Never took a dime of gov support even when I was out of work one four month period in my 30 year career. I have funded my retirement and don't need SS. I now own my home and a nice piece of land outright. No mortgage. No debt at all. Zero. Retired at 55 after being in the same 1% as you. We're probably more alike than different. Are you and I to blame for all the ills of this country? No. Are the boomers? No. If you want things to be better you start with yourself and go from there. You don't post 60,000 times on a forum and make dumb jokes all day to improve your lot in life. We aren't going to get out of the current mess by whining and throwing meme tantrums online. I'm so sick of the unserious nature of the man-children I see all the time (not you, but people like the jake legs posting meaningless drivel here). I will not feel sorry for anyone who acts that way. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 12:50:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: Man I wasn’t even an idea in the 80s lol Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: Originally Posted By Trunalimunumaprzure: Yeah I was just a little shit in the 80's but I remember my older cousins and my parents friends kids who were teenagers always looked like they were having a blast. When I was a teen in the 90's it certainly didn't seem as cool as I thought it looked or how people I talked to remembered being a teenager. Going all the way back to the 60's. Maybe my expectations were too high. I get accused of that a lot on here. Man I wasn’t even an idea in the 80s lol got dayum millennials 
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Posted: 3/25/2024 12:52:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: eagarminuteman]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trunalimunumaprzure: got dayum Fixed it for you
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Posted: 3/25/2024 12:55:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrayMan66: So you overcame the challenges and made something pf yourself. Do did I. I rented for 7 years then bought in 1999. Never rented again. Never took a dime of gov support even when I was out of work one four month period in my 30 year career. I have funded my retirement and don't need SS. I now own my home and a nice piece of land outright. No mortgage. No debt at all. Zero. Retired at 55 after being in the same 1% as you. We're probably more alike than different. Are you and I to blame for all the ills of this country? No. Are the boomers? No. If you want things to be better you start with yourself and go from there. You don't post 60,000 times on a forum and make dumb jokes all day to improve your lot in life. We aren't going to get out of the current mess by whining and throwing meme tantrums online. I'm so sick of the unserious nature of the man-children I see all the time (not you, but people like the jake legs posting meaningless drivel here). I will not feel sorry for anyone who acts that way. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrayMan66: Originally Posted By ramairthree: You seem to have me confused with some other generation or person. I have never lost a job or been laid off. I have been sought after. I’m not some loser that went from renting to renting. When I rented in my first apartment I changed oil and manifold gaskets in the parking lot like many others. I passed a SOF pipeline, later became an officer, and was in a nominative select position as the zero two in an O6 tier one command with a three star senior rater. And put in that position while a rank below what the slot authorized. Thanks for letting me know to “do what it takes” and telling me who “my generation” voted for when I was born in the 60s and am a one percenter thinking traditional young American adults and families are getting fucked. I pay about 150K in federal income tax a year. Any more tips? So you overcame the challenges and made something pf yourself. Do did I. I rented for 7 years then bought in 1999. Never rented again. Never took a dime of gov support even when I was out of work one four month period in my 30 year career. I have funded my retirement and don't need SS. I now own my home and a nice piece of land outright. No mortgage. No debt at all. Zero. Retired at 55 after being in the same 1% as you. We're probably more alike than different. Are you and I to blame for all the ills of this country? No. Are the boomers? No. If you want things to be better you start with yourself and go from there. You don't post 60,000 times on a forum and make dumb jokes all day to improve your lot in life. We aren't going to get out of the current mess by whining and throwing meme tantrums online. I'm so sick of the unserious nature of the man-children I see all the time (not you, but people like the jake legs posting meaningless drivel here). I will not feel sorry for anyone who acts that way. So I take it your in favor of interest rate cuts in 2024? Inflation still running hot cause they won't stop spending. Let's make debt cheaper and just go full Zimbabwe? Or is this more meaningless drivel that you apparently don't read. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 1:04:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trunalimunumaprzure: So I take it your in favor of interest rate cuts in 2024? Inflation still running hot cause they won't stop spending. Let's make debt cheaper and just go full Zimbabwe? Or is this more meaningless drivel that you apparently don't read. I'm for much smaller and much less intrusive government which leads to less gov spending. Artificially low interest rates for decades are part of the problem. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 1:12:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: Do we know if anybody here actually read the article at the beginning? Just curious if we looked at what was posted or saw the words “boomers” and “millennials” and decided to scream at each other?  
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Posted: 3/25/2024 1:13:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrayMan66: I'm for much smaller and much less intrusive government which leads to less gov spending. Artificially low interest rates for decades are part of the problem. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrayMan66: Originally Posted By Trunalimunumaprzure: So I take it your in favor of interest rate cuts in 2024? Inflation still running hot cause they won't stop spending. Let's make debt cheaper and just go full Zimbabwe? Or is this more meaningless drivel that you apparently don't read. I'm for much smaller and much less intrusive government which leads to less gov spending. Artificially low interest rates for decades are part of the problem. So why is there so much hostility towards those who speak out? Not speaking about you, obviously. I think its because deep inside many of them realize their orange messiah spent just as much as the rest of the government clowns before him and bears plenty of responsibility in this mess. Can't gore GD's sacred oxen Trump and real estate prices lest ye be shunned and given some type of snarky label. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 1:15:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trunalimunumaprzure: So why is there so much hostility towards those who speak out? Not speaking about you, obviously. I think its because deep inside many of them realize their orange messiah spent just as much as the rest of the government clowns before him and bears plenty of responsibility in this mess. Can't gore GD's sacred oxen Trump and real estate prices lest ye be shunned and given some type of snarky label. Oh boy this thread hasn’t disappointed one bit. Boomers, millennials, renting, high real estate prices, economic trends, SS, and now Trump? Damn this is fun. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 1:16:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KILLERB6: ”Boomer!” “Millenial!” /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/Triggered-143.gif https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/18716/IMG_6339-3168695.jpg This is the internet, we don’t get along with anyone because anonymity allows us to be the assholes we would never be in real life. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 1:19:05 AM EDT
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Copypasta…it was all just copypasta…all of it.
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Posted: 3/25/2024 1:38:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: This is the internet, we don’t get along with anyone because anonymity allows us to be the assholes we would never be in real life. Growing up in AZ we never screwed around with other drivers. We knew that since our vehicles were full of guns, the other vehicle might also be full of guns.  NIN: "Cars" with Gary Numan, London 7.15.09 [HD] |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 1:41:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KILLERB6: Almost like people in their cars. Growing up in AZ we never screwed around with other drivers. We knew that since our vehicles were full of guns, the other vehicle might also be full of guns.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qlUFKFHNIUCan’t say that mindset is still here. People on the 60 be wild. Not that I care, my AR still rides shotgun. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 3:42:14 AM EDT
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All of my friends in skilled trades jobs make easily 2x what my college grad friends make and they have zero college debt.
Also they earned wages for the 4 years the college students earned nothing.  |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 6:05:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KILLERB6: Standard for the poors is 72 months on cars. Meanwhile at the S&P 500  
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Posted: 3/25/2024 6:10:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: Texans are like chihuahuas I’ve found. Big talk, no bite. 
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Posted: 3/25/2024 8:24:10 AM EDT
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Wonder how many zoomers will be complaining about CoL while drinking their $8 morning coffee/juice...
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Posted: 3/25/2024 8:27:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: Oh boy this thread hasn’t disappointed one bit. Boomers, millennials, renting, high real estate prices, economic trends, SS, and now Trump? Damn this is fun. lol! Holy shit! I should have expected TDS! It was not on my card! |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 8:41:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trunalimunumaprzure: So why is there so much hostility towards those who speak out? Not speaking about you, obviously. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trunalimunumaprzure: So why is there so much hostility towards those who speak out? Not speaking about you, obviously. I don't know. I see a difference between preaching to the choir, whining, and constructive discussion. There isn't much of the latter around here (or in most online forae with open membership). I think its because deep inside many of them realize their orange messiah spent just as much as the rest of the government clowns before him and bears plenty of responsibility in this mess. Can't gore GD's sacred oxen Trump and real estate prices lest ye be shunned and given some type of snarky label. I voted for him twice and will again. First time I held my nose and hoped for the best. No way Hillary was getting my vote and 3rd party protest votes are mostly pointless, especially in close elections. Anyway, he surprised me after a few early stumbles. Started trying to do what he stumped for, pyshed hard against the establishment, media, and permanent bureaucracy and exposed them for all to see. He made some blunders, too. Bump stocks, ignorant statements about red flag laws, and listening to Fauci and the other experts on Covid. He wanted to open back up by April if you recall. Fear ruled. He's still a loudmouth. He still doesn't know much about history. He still can't control his ego when someone slights him. That's how he came out stinking after the first debate in 2020. A little self control would have allowed him to win over people, many of whom were seeing the biased "moderation." Anyway, I'm a pragmatist. I now vote for whomever will do the least damage. POTUS can't fix everything. We have to have some sanity and cohesion in Congress. Also at the state and local level where a lot of damage is done (Dem governors drove the lock downs and tanked the economy, for example). I plan to do what I was taught to do. Keep on keepin' on. Do my best, learn from my mistakes, support others with the same mindset. Try to set an example. Maybe I sucked at that in this thread. Life goes on. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 8:42:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gspointer: lol! Holy shit! I should have expected TDS! It was not on my card! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gspointer: Originally Posted By eagarminuteman: Oh boy this thread hasn’t disappointed one bit. Boomers, millennials, renting, high real estate prices, economic trends, SS, and now Trump? Damn this is fun. lol! Holy shit! I should have expected TDS! It was not on my card! This thread was great without it 
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Posted: 3/25/2024 8:43:43 AM EDT
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Day three and the trails of tears continues.
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Posted: 3/25/2024 8:49:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Off-the-Grid: Day three and the trails of tears continues. Think they will put up historical monuments at old trailer park sites so the millennials that chose failure won’t be forgotten? |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 8:52:02 AM EDT
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I biggest complaint about boomers is their suicidal views on immigration. One of the biggest suppressors of wages.
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Posted: 3/25/2024 8:58:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By p3590: Both the Ds and Rs got together on eliminating bankruptcy for student loans. Essentially, we reinvented debtor's prison. This chart shows the decoupling of tuition and inflation that caused: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By p3590: Originally Posted By sirensong: i probably don't have to say it on this forum, but this is a direct result of democrat policies that claimed to be helping the poor. Ds: "let's drastically expand the scope of federal student loan guarantees, remove the limits on how much you can borrow, and wildly liberalize creditworthiness criteria." Rs: "that will have an inflationary effect." Ds: "you racists." Due to government policies, millions of people were lied to and encouraged to go to college when college added nothing to their value in the workplace. Roughly half drop out with nothing to show for it but debt. When Obama nationalized/socialized college debt, he knew that he was creating a class of debt slaves beholden to the immoral Dems in the swamp, who could use them to do their bidding in return for debt relief (Reps are not callous and evil enough to abuse the poor in this way - they are weak enough to go along with it though). As the chart showed, college tuition has skyrocketed compared to inflation. But these riches did NOT go to better courses, more profs, or more financial aid. It went to legions of deep college swamp administrators, literally hundreds per campus of racist DEI mandarins who admitted millions of students that anyone with any common sense knew woudl not graduate. See Sowell for a full explanation of this, he has many articles and videos on it. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 9:06:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ruger556boy: I biggest complaint about boomers is their suicidal views on immigration. One of the biggest suppressors of wages. Jesus text me, he can't mow today due to rain.
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Posted: 3/25/2024 9:07:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By midcap: I really don't get it...maybe they can pull themselves up from their bootstraps and learn how to use a PC Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By midcap: Originally Posted By Scalped: Originally Posted By midcap: boomers also didn't need any skills for those min wage jobs......throw a boomer at a min wage job now and they would be lost and couldn't keep up. Computers and shit. I would also like to point out to ya'll knuckle heads that it's Republicans, especially the Regan, Bush types that sold everyone out in the name of cheap shit and cheap labor. So true dude. All the boomers I know are retired as either blue collared or as some kind of administrator that got lucky and retired at or near a 100k/year income. Watching either of them trying to navigate personal electronic devices makes me want to ask their companies for refunds I really don't get it...maybe they can pull themselves up from their bootstraps and learn how to use a PC While the stereotype that boomers can't use tech is pervasive, the stereotype that the younger XYZ's can't write with proper grammar, sentence structure, spelling and clarity. This also apparently also holds true with verbal communications, face to face communication and conflict resolution, work ethic and inflated egos. Which is why the over 60 demographic is currently valued more highly in business than anytime in decades. Trillions of hours playing online games, watching cat videos and watching porn apparently has a cumulative effect on generations... |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 9:13:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ruger556boy: I biggest complaint about boomers is their suicidal views on immigration. One of the biggest suppressors of wages. You couldn't be more wrong if you actually did your best to be wrong. Most boomers HATE illegal aliens and the corrupt system outside dumb old broads that are in every age group. The younger generations are idiots where illegal immigration is concerned. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 9:14:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: jwnc]
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It comes down to ONE thing.
The government has passed hundreds of thousands of pages of new laws and regulations in the last fifty years, most making it harder to make a buck and the rest is due to giving away free stuff to their voter base and their cronies. Because this is economically impossible, it has forced trillions in money printing. That is all, simply change the government. Good luck. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 9:16:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fxntime: You couldn't be more wrong if you actually did your best to be wrong. Most boomers HATE illegal aliens and the corrupt system outside dumb old broads that are in every age group. The younger generations are idiots where illegal immigration is concerned. Why would you deny those innocent starving children a bed, a roof and basic nutrition? |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 9:21:31 AM EDT
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College costs have risen dramatically because the government and society at large have allowed it.
The costs can easily be reduced. Practically every mid-sized university in the country is spending literally tens of millions of dollars a year on salary for an entire cadre of "diversity" and more recently DEI related positions. In some places it's like the old Soviet military system of having a political officer in every unit, with some universities having a dedicated DEI staff in every division and at least one dedicated DEI position in each unit within the division. And every single one of those positions makes six figures minimum. Most universities are organs of state government in some form or fashion and could easily be disciplined into more fiscal responsibility through legislation and budget. But that means ignoring them when they cry about having budgets reduced and not funding their lavishly expensive efforts at subverting our entire society into marxism. This is true in the reddest states, too...not just California and New York. But the legislators bend over and grab their ankles when university presidents come lobbying instead of using their legislative and budget authority to hold them accountable and drive that shit out. Almost every single major problem we have in America today started on university campuses. Higher ed can be made much more affordable AND deprogrammed from marxist bullshit at the same time, but nobody seems to have the guts. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 9:22:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trunalimunumaprzure: So why is there so much hostility towards those who speak out? Not speaking about you, obviously. I think its because deep inside many of them realize their orange messiah spent just as much as the rest of the government clowns before him and bears plenty of responsibility in this mess. Can't gore GD's sacred oxen Trump and real estate prices lest ye be shunned and given some type of snarky label. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trunalimunumaprzure: Originally Posted By GrayMan66: Originally Posted By Trunalimunumaprzure: So I take it your in favor of interest rate cuts in 2024? Inflation still running hot cause they won't stop spending. Let's make debt cheaper and just go full Zimbabwe? Or is this more meaningless drivel that you apparently don't read. I'm for much smaller and much less intrusive government which leads to less gov spending. Artificially low interest rates for decades are part of the problem. So why is there so much hostility towards those who speak out? Not speaking about you, obviously. I think its because deep inside many of them realize their orange messiah spent just as much as the rest of the government clowns before him and bears plenty of responsibility in this mess. Can't gore GD's sacred oxen Trump and real estate prices lest ye be shunned and given some type of snarky label. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 9:24:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fxntime: You couldn't be more wrong if you actually did your best to be wrong. Most boomers HATE illegal aliens and the corrupt system outside dumb old broads that are in every age group. The younger generations are idiots where illegal immigration is concerned. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fxntime: Originally Posted By ruger556boy: I biggest complaint about boomers is their suicidal views on immigration. One of the biggest suppressors of wages. You couldn't be more wrong if you actually did your best to be wrong. Most boomers HATE illegal aliens and the corrupt system outside dumb old broads that are in every age group. The younger generations are idiots where illegal immigration is concerned. Let's be clear, leftist voters of all generations voted in the idiots who have opened the border. Conservatives of all generations voted for the idiots who promised to stop the open border but who have done very little to accomplish that. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 9:31:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GrayMan66: I don't know. I see a difference between preaching to the choir, whining, and constructive discussion. There isn't much of the latter around here (or in most online forae with open membership). I voted for him twice and will again. First time I held my nose and hoped for the best. No way Hillary was getting my vote and 3rd party protest votes are mostly pointless, especially in close elections. Anyway, he surprised me after a few early stumbles. Started trying to do what he stumped for, pyshed hard against the establishment, media, and permanent bureaucracy and exposed them for all to see. He made some blunders, too. Bump stocks, ignorant statements about red flag laws, and listening to Fauci and the other experts on Covid. He wanted to open back up by April if you recall. Fear ruled. He's still a loudmouth. He still doesn't know much about history. He still can't control his ego when someone slights him. That's how he came out stinking after the first debate in 2020. A little self control would have allowed him to win over people, many of whom were seeing the biased "moderation." Anyway, I'm a pragmatist. I now vote for whomever will do the least damage. POTUS can't fix everything. We have to have some sanity and cohesion in Congress. Also at the state and local level where a lot of damage is done (Dem governors drove the lock downs and tanked the economy, for example). I plan to do what I was taught to do. Keep on keepin' on. Do my best, learn from my mistakes, support others with the same mindset. Try to set an example. Maybe I sucked at that in this thread. Life goes on. Forae? Wow. OK, fora instead of forums, I can buy that, but forae?... In any case, well said, that's how many of us feel. Trump is the least worst major candidate. Hopefully, if he can survive the Soviet era level of legal persecution and vote rigging this year, he will have learned from his first term and bring in a lot of outsiders and reverse the immense damage done by the Biden regime. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 9:39:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwnc: While the stereotype that boomers can't use tech is pervasive, the stereotype that the younger XYZ's can't write with proper grammar, sentence structure, spelling and clarity. This also apparently also holds true with verbal communications, face to face communication and conflict resolution, work ethic and inflated egos. Which is why the over 60 demographic is currently valued more highly in business than anytime in decades. Trillions of hours playing online games, watching cat videos and watching porn apparently has a cumulative effect on generations... 
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Posted: 3/25/2024 9:44:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: I ain’t telling you fuckers my Spanish nickname. That’s a secret I’m taking to the grave.  Pendejo? |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 9:49:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zach_: Pendejo? I said they liked me lol
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Posted: 3/25/2024 9:50:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fxntime: You couldn't be more wrong if you actually did your best to be wrong. Most boomers HATE illegal aliens and the corrupt system outside dumb old broads that are in every age group. The younger generations are idiots where illegal immigration is concerned. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fxntime: Originally Posted By ruger556boy: I biggest complaint about boomers is their suicidal views on immigration. One of the biggest suppressors of wages. You couldn't be more wrong if you actually did your best to be wrong. Most boomers HATE illegal aliens and the corrupt system outside dumb old broads that are in every age group. The younger generations are idiots where illegal immigration is concerned. Where did I say illegal? At this point I am against all forms of immigration for 50-100 years. Its going to cause serious problems in this country if you think otherwise. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 10:06:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwnc: Forae? Wow. OK, fora instead of forums, I can buy that, but forae?... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jwnc: Forae? Wow. OK, fora instead of forums, I can buy that, but forae?... Two years of Latin in HS polluted my brain. In any case, well said, that's how many of us feel. Trump is the least worst major candidate. Hopefully, if he can survive the Soviet era level of legal persecution and vote rigging this year, he will have learned from his first term and bring in a lot of outsiders and reverse the immense damage done by the Biden regime. Getting beyond unrealistic and idealistc "hopes and dreams" and becoming a pragmatist was part of my awakening/transformation into an adult. Until a person makes that mental shift it is very difficult to have a serious conversation in my experience. Anyway, glad to see I'm not the only one here. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 10:09:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ramairthree: Yeah, I’m not rooting in defense for the ones that see themselves as a victim. Were some things harder? Sure, you had to spend hours in the library looking up, copying, etc, doing references for a pub and type it up. vs doing it online from home with a word processor with a magic cite function. Were some things more expensive? Sure, 35 years ago a 19 inch color TV and stereo VCR on sale were the equivalent of about 2200 bucks now. And that rack stereo system with huge speakers, dual cassette, cd six packs, and turntable was about 2700 bucks in today’s dollars. Vs 100 bucks a month now for some streaming and internet and a $1000 phone or iPad or a 500 dollar TV. But that’s pretty much the shit that’s not important. The soma/opium/entertainment/ etc. I very much understand and don’t see myself as a victim. I grew up rural poor. I spent an enlistment in the military. I got married. My wife had her associates and three years of college. I used the GI Bill, got a work study job, plus worked extra in the reserves. Could I have gone to college for free? Well, if I had been raised in a different background, yes, I would have known how and done it. I turned down an offer of admission to West Point to get married. I took an ROTC scholarship but they changed it and the requirements and I did not take it. My wife worked full time and I did take some small student loans that were paid off. But- My tuition was 1/2 proportionally what it is there now. My exact same apartment is now 2-3 times proportionally what it was then. Buying a three year old all weather, low mileage, reliable vehicle for work is twice as much proportionally. Our medical insurance was 1/2 proportionally what it is now. I knew from talking to people that had been in my shoes 20-25 years previously they had things - same apartments, same school, etc. also proportionally better than I had. And recognized “inflation” or whatever being off in those things. I don’t see what’s so hard about recognizing someone now in the shoes I was in 35 years ago have rent, education, transportation, and insurance costs way beyond what I did when I was struggling. And what a shitshow the increased travel, bigger debt, worse living, etc. must be for what they can afford. After college I went back on active duty, and was selected for an assigned to an area with massive springboard potential and opportunity. Plus life changing education and training, my wife worked full time plus finished her B.S. We bought a small SFH on a tiny lot with a tiny fenced yard 12 miles from work, with amazing schools, close to outdoor recreation, with zero crime, etc. We worked crazy hours and were smart with our money. That home was about 350K in today’s dollars. Those are now 750K to 800K homes. Someone in my exact shoes now that I was in then would have two to three times the commute, crappy schools, crime, etc, for 350K. I was already working so many hours and things were already tight enough more vehicle and transportation expense, hours wasted commuting, etc. would have had a very negative impact. I want some 25 year old young couple now to have things as good as I did then, if not better. Around a decade later I bought the big wonderful dream house that was a fantastic place to raise a family. The oldest was in grade school, one in preschool, etc. My wife had been able to stop working and we did single income starting around 30 when we started our family. It was around a 475K home. That home just sold for 775K dollars. I could not have remotely afforded it / my life if it had been 475K a couple of decades ago instead of 300K. Even if my wife worked full time and we did the day care and all that crap. Which would not have worked because I averaged about 6 months of each year away from home for the decade we lived there. We would have lived someplace way shittier with crappier schools, more crime, etc, than we did. For the same effort and accomplishment. Around a decade ago, or even now, I could be fully retired/not working and have 130K coming in each year. I decided to keep working 30-40 hours a week. My federal income taxes are about the same as the 130K passive. But… Still working allowed me to give the wife her farm I always promised her since I took her away decades ago, be a little more rural, keep the kids in good schools, be away from crime, pay for their college, etc. Now, the farm was about 1M in today’s dollars. Plus I added about 400K in todays dollars in a new building, pool, etc. I pay property tax on an assessment of 1.2M. The house would sell for 1.8-2M. So, the house proportionally would have been half again as much to buy a decade ago. Under the current economy, I would never had had this home. Someone a decade behind me with the exact same accomplishments, drive, potential, sacrifices, efforts, etc. can’t have what I have. Things got progressively better for young Americans - And for various reasons have slid back - While trying to paint over it with cheaper, fancier crap that doesn’t matter- While the real things that matter are being stolen. I am absolutely not a communist. But we have fucked over the younger generations. All this |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 10:10:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ramairthree: Looks like a solid 1K or more of wood also. I know the wood cost 1/2 as much five years ago. Just cut out your fancy ass Netflix membership and that will cover it. LOL |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 10:13:27 AM EDT
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IDK why anyone still has this generational debate. It was rational to try educating boomers back in the 2000s when the problem could have been fixed. If you're a millennial like me you've already struggled out of the hole boomers started our generation in. And if you're old, and you haven't admitted the economic facts of the last 50 years sometime in the last 20, no amount of argument can change a mind that broken.
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Posted: 3/25/2024 10:15:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ramairthree: Also GD- There are plenty of cheap houses! Just look here- this house is the same in today’s dollars as it was when it was built in 1990! It didn’t out pace inflation… Links to home in area with massive demographic changes where the public schools are 70% non-white and the county has the highest per-capita violent crime rate in the state And look at this one- beautiful rural area… Links to home in rural area surrounded by empty, abandoned textile factories, a closed furniture factory, with massive unemployment, no jobs, no opportunity, and a very disproportionate desperation, suicide, opioid abuse, meth head, and property crime stats profile Oh- this one is great also- another beautiful rural spot- And shows another depressed area that has gone to 40% of the local populace being illegal dairy, ag, poultry, etc. workers and also has a contaminated resovoir problem and whose highest hopes for jobs are a Walmart supply center or Amazon packing center going in 40 miles west near the interstate. LOL |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 10:44:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trunalimunumaprzure: So why is there so much hostility towards those who speak out? Not speaking about you, obviously. I think its because deep inside many of them realize their orange messiah spent just as much as the rest of the government clowns before him and bears plenty of responsibility in this mess. Can't gore GD's sacred oxen Trump and real estate prices lest ye be shunned and given some type of snarky label. Quit being such a drama queen FFS. Trump is hardly a "sacred oxen" here. He was in charge for 4 fuckin' years. Even if he could have pulled off everything "MAGA" it would have been a drop in the bucket as far as correcting the decades of decline this country has suffered. Every generation has had to work harder than the previous, but of course we can't use any common sense here in GD, there's always gotta be someone to blame: Boomers, milennials, women, etc, etc, etc. As far as I can tell, most ARFCOMMERS have a conservative leaning and have voted R for the most part. You know, the politicians that the left says are going to do away with SS..... So WTF more are the anti SS people supposed to do? Maybe if some of you fucktards spent less time bitching and blaming others on the interwebz for things they aren't responsible for, and got off your fat lazy asses and got involved a little more things might.........might start changing, even a little. But it's waaay waayyy easier to piss and moan and blame others for YOUR shitty spending habits, laziness, and desire to be handed shit for nothing. Wake the fuck up. 
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Posted: 3/25/2024 10:47:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ruger556boy: I biggest complaint about boomers is their suicidal views on immigration. One of the biggest suppressors of wages. Care to expand on that thought? Got a link or two? Very few boomers I know support illegal immigration, and it doesn't take much imagination to figure out the demographics of the ones that do. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 10:55:40 AM EDT
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[#47]
I didn't go to college to work a minimum wage job.
And the youngsters voted for obungle and xiden. So that's part of why they'll be renters their whole lives. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 10:56:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: I said they liked me lol Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: Originally Posted By zach_: Pendejo? I said they liked me lol Did they really really really like you? I'd guess maricón. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 11:06:44 AM EDT
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This is simply a problem stemming from too much government giving out loans to everyone.
Of course if you have 3x the number of students wanting to attend college, and them all getting loans to pay for it by uncle sugar, obviously the prices are going to go up. Simple supply/demand. If you want to be mad at someone, get mad at your government. ALL OF OUR INFLATIONARY MONEY PROBLEMS ARE BECAUSE OF GOVERNMENT. |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 11:07:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikertrash: Quit being such a drama queen FFS. Trump is hardly a "sacred oxen" here. He was in charge for 4 fuckin' years. Even if he could have pulled off everything "MAGA" it would have been a drop in the bucket as far as correcting the decades of decline this country has suffered. Every generation has had to work harder than the previous, but of course we can't use any common sense here in GD, there's always gotta be someone to blame: Boomers, milennials, women, etc, etc, etc. As far as I can tell, most ARFCOMMERS have a conservative leaning and have voted R for the most part. You know, the politicians that the left says are going to do away with SS..... So WTF more are the anti SS people supposed to do? Maybe if some of you fucktards spent less time bitching and blaming others on the interwebz for things they aren't responsible for, and got off your fat lazy asses and got involved a little more things might.........might start changing, even a little. But it's waaay waayyy easier to piss and moan and blame others for YOUR shitty spending habits, laziness, and desire to be handed shit for nothing. Wake the fuck up. https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia1.tenor.com%2Fimages%2Fced86f90bdc0bb7c83d4bd8865e7a7ca%2Ftenor.gif%3Fitemid%3D11848490&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=af3b534ec362e390384e7ee655b3b872da1ca99a8b245fe61014e14f5437da0a&ipo=images Man I love being told that simply because of the year I was born, I’m automatically a lazy shitbag with poor spending habits (even though you’ve never seen my budget and don’t know anything about me). Now hand me the spark plug socket, wires and plugs ain’t gonna change themselves. |
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