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The investigators are kind of lucky to be able to review the recordings..
Fbi probably jacking off to it while atf watches and then no knocks to catch them but joins them |
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I think it is a job requirement that the Forever Bumbling Idiots only hire employees that lack any moral fiber. Afterall, if they had any morals they wouldn't be able to spy on Presidential candidates, American citizens, PTA parents, veterans, or any other group that may be opposed to the government overreach of Democrats.
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It seems confusing at first, like how does an old balding goober get really decent-looking women.
But don't forget that women are quite simple and impressionable, like children. They LOVE government and gov men. Any kind of perceived authority (even if it's a joke to other men) is way more attractive to them than say a 10/10 body and personality, or a lot of money I only date women that are outspoken anti-government. Or proudly non-jabbed. Which means I don't date anymore. |
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Not surprising. You probably would have to be a degenerate to be one of them nowadays.
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The average fed boi doing average fed boi things. Guess I’m just glad they weren’t kids.
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Originally Posted By tc556guy: Other than a small number of times instances of him sharing images with other people, how exactly did he violate the law. You can't maintain a collection of videos and images of past intimate partners? Was it a two party state for video recording? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By tc556guy: Other than a small number of times instances of him sharing images with other people, how exactly did he violate the law. You can't maintain a collection of videos and images of past intimate partners? Was it a two party state for video recording? You can have videos but you can’t secretly record them. There are 2 sections, one if the material was distributed, one if it wasn’t. https://law.justia.com/codes/oklahoma/2022/title-21/section-21-1171/#:~:text=Every%20person%20who%20hides%2C%20waits,privacy%2C%20with%20the%20unlawful%20and B. Every person who uses photographic, electronic or video equipment in a clandestine manner for any illegal, illegitimate, prurient, lewd or lascivious purpose with the unlawful and willful intent to view, watch, gaze or look upon any person without the knowledge and consent of such person when the person viewed is in a place where there is a right to a reasonable expectation of privacy, or who publishes or distributes any image obtained from such act, shall, upon conviction, be guilty of a felony. The violator shall be punished by imprisonment in the custody of the Department of Corrections for a term of not more than five (5) years, or by a fine not exceeding Five Thousand Dollars ($5,000.00), or by both such fine and imprisonment. C. Every person who uses photographic, electronic or video equipment in a clandestine manner for any illegal, illegitimate, prurient, lewd or lascivious purpose with the unlawful and willful intent to view, watch, gaze or look upon any person and capture an image of a private area of a person without the knowledge and consent of such person and knowingly does so under circumstances in which a reasonable person would believe that the private area of the person would not be visible to the public, regardless of whether the person is in a public or private place shall, upon conviction, be guilty of a misdemeanor. The violator shall be punished by imprisonment in the county jail for a term of not more than one (1) year, or by a fine not exceeding Five Thousand Dollars ($5,000.00), or by both such fine and imprisonment. |
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Never mind. I guess I should do the research before I comment.
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Was it part of an official "investigation"?
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Guy must be pretty damn smooth with the ladies.
I don’t think I know 80 people that aren't family members, let alone accumulate 80 naked females in my house. |
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Well that guy fucks...
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I was in back when we had to have shiny boots and not fuck each other in the ass.
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Another example of the "Untouchables" acting like they are truly untouchable. Why in the hell do we have the fbi?? All they do is frame people and fuck things up.
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Rodent: "You haven’t heard The First Noel until you’ve heard it with a Chinese accent and farts."
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While he sounds like he has screws loose...
I suspect that there is going to be a SERIOUS legal challenge to someone recording inside their own home...even if it not known to guests in the home. To say that a person can't put a camera in a home that they own or record in their own home...and to say non specific things like "lewd"...words that are not defined...that seems questionable. |
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Dude looks average at best. How was he scoring all that tail?
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Originally Posted By Flysc: Exactly what i was thinking. This story calls this "revenge porn", but did he circulate the images online for revenge or blackmail? Not from what i read. He showed his cache to a girlfriend. I guess to impress her? Now, before i continue playing Devil's Advocate for an FBI agent (i kind of don't believe I'm doing it), an anecdote from my memory: Years ago, i walked into a department in our plant that was 100% staffed with young black guys. They were huddled on break, oohing, laughing and carrying on. I sneak up to mess with them. I finally see why they are all entranced. Guy in the center is showing them his previous conquest. It's a white woman riding him like a cowgirl...video on a camcorder screen. I ask him if she knew she was being filmed. He said no, then he admitted he secretly records all of his booty calls. "Wouldn't they get pissed?" "I don't care. This is my stay out of prison insurance." He then explained that one of his brothers was currently in prison on a rape conviction. He said one of his brother's side pieces, a married white girl, accused him of rape after her belly was swole up with a half chocolate baby. He said it's harder to prosecute for rape if he had video of the accuser enjoying herself in a dominant position. Maybe this guy was doing the same? You know damn well what they'd do to an FBI dude in prison. Especially if he'd had at least 80. I know, FFBI, but the guy must be a cat daddy. I'll give him that. View Quote Not a half-bad insurance policy in this day and age. Dude looks like a creep, but he’s punching above his weight class, certainly. (My money’s on drugs stolen from the evidence locker, too) But why brag about it like a dumbass? Second, his exes whined to the cops that he’d recorded them fucking… And they went in like stormtroopers over it? Wtf? Something’s fucky here. |
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Originally Posted By tc556guy: Other than a small number of times instances of him sharing images with other people, how exactly did he violate the law. You can't maintain a collection of videos and images of past intimate partners? Was it a two party state for video recording? View Quote Google search says: "Is Oklahoma a one-party or two-party state for recordings? Oklahoma law stipulates that it is a one-party consent state with recordings. That means that, in Oklahoma, it is legal to record a conversation if at least one party to the conversation knows about and consents to the recording." Probably why the asshole moved there. |
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It's so annoying trying to have a Socratic argument with a psychopath.
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Did he come out as a Trump supporter?
Something doesn't seem right. |
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I thought they were all flaming homosexuals. Learn something new everyday
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Originally Posted By FedDC: While he sounds like he has screws loose... I suspect that there is going to be a SERIOUS legal challenge to someone recording inside their own home...even if it not known to guests in the home. To say that a person can't put a camera in a home that they own or record in their own home...and to say non specific things like "lewd"...words that are not defined...that seems questionable. View Quote There have been a few cases in PA where people have plead guilty. The only ones I can find are associated with creating child pornography and child sexual abuse. But I could have sworn there was one where he plead guilty and recording people using his bathroom was the only offense, if I recall that one involved kids too. This investigation was initiated because someone found a hidden cam. https://www.readingeagle.com/2023/05/02/former-berks-doctor-sentenced-to-26-plus-years-in-prison-for-sexually-assaulting-and-secretly-recording-children/amp/ |
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Originally Posted By MHowski: You can have videos but you can’t secretly record them. There are 2 sections, one if the material was distributed, one if it wasn’t. https://law.justia.com/codes/oklahoma/2022/title-21/section-21-1171/#:~:text=Every%20person%20who%20hides%2C%20waits,privacy%2C%20with%20the%20unlawful%20and View Quote There is no reasonable expectation of privacy for YOU while you are in my house I would argue the factual claim that they were engaged in acts that included more than the one offended person and the expectation of privacy is gone, since it is not their home and they are with other people. Overall intent would matter too, as to when the recordings were created. Now the revenge stuff is a different story. |
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Originally Posted By UV18: There is no reasonable expectation of privacy for YOU while you are in my house I would argue the factual claim that they were engaged in acts that included more than the one offended person and the expectation of privacy is gone, since it is not their home and they are with other people. Overall intent would matter too, as to when the recordings were created. Now the revenge stuff is a different story. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By UV18: Originally Posted By MHowski: You can have videos but you can’t secretly record them. There are 2 sections, one if the material was distributed, one if it wasn’t. https://law.justia.com/codes/oklahoma/2022/title-21/section-21-1171/#:~:text=Every%20person%20who%20hides%2C%20waits,privacy%2C%20with%20the%20unlawful%20and There is no reasonable expectation of privacy for YOU while you are in my house I would argue the factual claim that they were engaged in acts that included more than the one offended person and the expectation of privacy is gone, since it is not their home and they are with other people. Overall intent would matter too, as to when the recordings were created. Now the revenge stuff is a different story. As I guest in someone’s house I would expect to not be secretly recorded in their bathroom. The person being recorded matters, so does where they are being recorded and for what purpose. A contractor installing an hvac system in the basement might expect less privacy than a friend of your daughters showering while on a sleepover. |
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COC prevents me from saying what I'd do to the FBI starting with Wray and working my way down.
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Pain is inexhaustible. It's only people who get exhausted.
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If he hadn't have sent that one video to someone, would all of them still have been "revenge porn?"
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Originally Posted By MHowski: As I guest in someone’s house I would expect to not be secretly recorded in their bathroom. The person being recorded matters, so does where they are being recorded and for what purpose. A contractor installing an hvac system in the basement might expect less privacy than a friend of your daughters showering while on a sleepover. View Quote Agreed. A bathroom would be one place that should be private, but if we are in there together the privacy is gone. |
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He who covers his sins will not prosper,
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who TF has 80 women visit them at their house.
This seems like a set up |
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Maybe 10 yrs ago one of the Buffalo Sabres hockey players was accused to taking some babe home with him from a bar and having his way with her and taping it. Eventually all the charges were dropped as I'm thinking he must have had " Security " cameras placed throughout the house and even in the bedroom as pro athletes are gone from home on long term road trips ( known to the public ) and as they're known to have some measure of wealth their empty house is tempting to a burglar. Best guess is he and the babe got home and got to making out on the couch and she asked if they should move into the bedroom. So much for her claim of being forced and he's got an understandable reason for cameras in the home. I don't recall that the Police officially ever stated just why the charges were dropped so one had to assume.
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Originally Posted By killcormorants: The investigators are kind of lucky to be able to review the recordings.. Fbi probably jacking off to it while atf watches and then no knocks to catch them but joins them View Quote |
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Originally Posted By MHowski: You can have videos but you can’t secretly record them. There are 2 sections, one if the material was distributed, one if it wasn’t. https://law.justia.com/codes/oklahoma/2022/title-21/section-21-1171/#:~:text=Every%20person%20who%20hides%2C%20waits,privacy%2C%20with%20the%20unlawful%20and View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MHowski: Originally Posted By tc556guy: Other than a small number of times instances of him sharing images with other people, how exactly did he violate the law. You can't maintain a collection of videos and images of past intimate partners? Was it a two party state for video recording? You can have videos but you can’t secretly record them. There are 2 sections, one if the material was distributed, one if it wasn’t. https://law.justia.com/codes/oklahoma/2022/title-21/section-21-1171/#:~:text=Every%20person%20who%20hides%2C%20waits,privacy%2C%20with%20the%20unlawful%20and B. Every person who uses photographic, electronic or video equipment in a clandestine manner for any illegal, illegitimate, prurient, lewd or lascivious purpose with the unlawful and willful intent to view, watch, gaze or look upon any person without the knowledge and consent of such person when the person viewed is in a place where there is a right to a reasonable expectation of privacy, or who publishes or distributes any image obtained from such act, shall, upon conviction, be guilty of a felony. The violator shall be punished by imprisonment in the custody of the Department of Corrections for a term of not more than five (5) years, or by a fine not exceeding Five Thousand Dollars ($5,000.00), or by both such fine and imprisonment. C. Every person who uses photographic, electronic or video equipment in a clandestine manner for any illegal, illegitimate, prurient, lewd or lascivious purpose with the unlawful and willful intent to view, watch, gaze or look upon any person and capture an image of a private area of a person without the knowledge and consent of such person and knowingly does so under circumstances in which a reasonable person would believe that the private area of the person would not be visible to the public, regardless of whether the person is in a public or private place shall, upon conviction, be guilty of a misdemeanor. The violator shall be punished by imprisonment in the county jail for a term of not more than one (1) year, or by a fine not exceeding Five Thousand Dollars ($5,000.00), or by both such fine and imprisonment. That makes a little more sense. "Revenge porn" is just the clickbait title. |
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Originally Posted By UV18: You start serving some creole food and offer a naked slip and slide and I bet the ladies would be lining up! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By UV18: Originally Posted By midcap: who TF has 80 women visit them at their house. This seems like a set up You start serving some creole food and offer a naked slip and slide and I bet the ladies would be lining up! Attached File |
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As screwed up as this is... it could be worse. He could be goading terrorists into murdering Americans... with full approval from higher ups.
https://theintercept.com/2016/08/09/fbi-agent-goaded-garland-shooter-to-tear-up-texas-raising-new-alarms-about-bureaus-methods/ |
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I’m surprised how may members don’t know 80 people let alone 80 women. You must be the city people that don’t talk to you neighbor even though you live 30 feet apart.
Edit: I live in a small community where everyone knows everyone so I know way more than 80 women just through everyday life. I see people all day that I know, I couldn’t do the city life. |
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Only thing that suprises me is that he was recording women. Being the fbi I would assume it would be men.
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