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My friend’s older brother was in the local jail for some petty crime. He and some others escaped. During the escape a trustee was killed. He went from months in jail to decades in prison.
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"All compromise is based on give and take, but there can be no give and take on fundamentals. Any compromise on mere fundamentals is a surrender. For it is all give and no take." -Ghandi
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A life-long friend of my wife's, who became a friend of mine when we got married. The morning of July 23, 2015 my Mother-In-Law called me, absolutely distraught begging me to quickly come over. She just kept repeating "It's awful, it's so awful..." I couldn't get any more information from her, so I called my Mom and headed over there. We were expecting it to be something with my FIL, as he had some health issues at the time. I had no idea what lie in store for me when I arrived.
When I got to my in-laws house, I went inside to find my MIL sobbing in the kitchen with their neighbors sitting catatonic in the den. It was then that my MIL told me that Evan, the son of the next-door neighbors, had murdered his GF and then tried to kill his Dad and then himself. The full details relayed to me were so extreme and tragic that they haunt me to this day. Here is the press release from that day - https://www.ptleader.com/stories/thompson-gets-15-years-for-murder,24259 |
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FAR too many to list. But I'm a correctional officer (17 yrs now) so there's that.
A few of them "famous", but so many many more that garnered minimal to almost no headlines at all. Many of them over crap arguments so trivial it defies belief. Needless to say, I CC pretty much *everywhere* except work. Don't get involved in an argument with a stranger if you can avoid it, and be prepared to be extremely violent in your response if required. |
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Yes. .22 in the base of the skull.
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Doesn't everyone!
You probably just don't know it yet. |
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Originally Posted By Sartorius: Yup. Went to school with this guy since about 3rd grade. https://kutv.com/news/local/convicted-utah-cop-killer-roberto-roman-sentenced-to-life-in-prison Also went to school with the deputy's sergeant who found her at the shooting scene. And I knew the deputy and her husband and daughter. And I was a personal friend with the sheriff. That was a bad day in our small town. View Quote There was a lot of weird stuff going on in that case. A lot of speculation her brother is the one who killed her. |
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Depending on your definition of “personally know”
Oh yea. Lots of em |
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Several.
One guy was found laying in the middle of a country road by a school bus driver on a very cold winter morning. Gunshot. He lived to tell me about it. Said, "I got shot in the chest by a .357 magnum! I thought I was gonna die!" He never told who shot him, but everybody figured it was his woman shot him. A few years after, he ended up catching her with another man and stabbed one of them to death. I cant remember which one. He's spending the rest of his life in prison. One guy reached across the kitchen table and cut his woman's throat. Known her for years. School mates K-12. I cant say that I condone what he did, but I undersand. The first three murderers that I can think of off the top of my head, all are fairly mild mannered guys. Don't piss 'em off, I guess. |
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Murderer or killer?
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I knew a guy when I was in the CG that killed a guy in a bar fight.
He kicked in the other guys ribs, puncturing both lungs. |
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Yes, several. I worked in a Mental Hospital full of them. Some killed more than once. One tried to kill me.
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A dude that hung out in a bar I drank at in the 90s was on America's Most Wanted for being a murder suspect.
We knew him as Rick. Rick wasn't his real name apparently. His tats gave him away. |
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I was Donald Gower 's squad leader in Germany in 90-91 when he met his future wife that he had murdered years later.
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Guy I went to high school with killed is girlfriend with an axe. Heavy drinker with PTSD
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The Jacksonville Strangler, was in my Platoon in Ft. Benning, he transfered in From Germany and never fit in, Commander was always on his ass, no one knew why only rumors. Apparently he couldn't deploy with us because he was under investigation for rape by the Columbus P.D.
Went to High School with a guy that walked into a bar in Montana, shot his wife and the bartender dead, got in his rig and drove off. This was just late last year. Sad they had a College age daughter... |
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Not a murderer but I worked with a very mild-mannered guy that went to jail for nearly beating his elderly mother to death. Like everyone says you never expect it from people you know.
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Originally Posted By packingXDs: Old biker I did work for. Accused, never convicted of torching his shop with his business partner still inside. Two brothers. Got real fucked up one night. One shot and killed the other. A few folks wrecking while drunk/high, causing deaths. Probably forgetting a few. View Quote If we include drunk driving deaths, I know several. None of them got charged with murder iirc. |
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Guy I used to work with went upstate when they found his GF hung in the closet.
Who knows the whole story. Red |
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A retired cop was building a new home and using my employer for a portion of the build. A couple of days before they were scheduled to close on the house, he pulled a murder/suicide on his wife. They seemed perfectly happy. We did work in their previous home.
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Kid was 3 years older than me. We got in a fight when we were kids. I got surprised and was getting my ass handed to me but my buddy ran up and knocked him off me. I climbed on top of him and started punching him in the face. We were in a snow bank and so i packed his mouth full of snowand tried to smother is nose with snow and kept hitting him till my buddy pulled me off.
Years later i saw that he was with some guys that walked into a chucky cheese and shot a bunch of folks. Eta I juat looked it up. Dude i knew was the wheelman not the trigger guy and he went away for accessory |
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I used to work in a pawnshop, met all kinds of people. Not unusual to take a prison ID card as a government issued ID. I had one guy show up every few months needing cash. Always polite, respectful. Seemed like a good working class guy. Always paid the interest on his loans and picked up his property.
Well, there's nothing like tax return season at a pawnshop. Everyone comes and picks up their stuff or is in a buying mood. One day the guy comes in, picks up his item and he's looking around, says he's got his tax return. My boss immediately hits him with a sales pitch, "do you like to dove hunt? how about a new shotgun?" He's like no, I've been in trouble, been to prison, I can't have anything like that. We were like really? No way. He goes on to tell us about how he got into a bar fight when he was younger, broke a pool cue in half and stabbed a guy with it, killing him. 14 years for manslaughter. More recently, I buy cardboard boxes from a guy to ship my company products. We've know the guy for years. He hires a guy to help him load and deliver boxes. Worked for him for like 2 years. The guy had been out to our place several times for delivery. Seemed solid, not an asshole, just did his work. One day he doesn't show up. Box guy shows up one day to deliver boxes. What happened to your other guy that was helping you? Police came and arrested him. He was wanted for murder and had been on the run for several years. I also have a friend who was accused of murder of his wife. It's a high profile unsolved case. He was the suspect for a while. Right now he is cleared. Apparently there's lots of little amateur wanna be detective groups on the internet who think they can solve crimes. Lots of them still think he's guilty. It's a weird position to be in when your sister-in-law keeps asking your wife if you think he killed her. Shit, how would I know? Police say he didn't, I guess that's enough. |
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"Give us the strength to face that which is to come, that we may be brave in peril, temperate in wrath, constant in tribulation, and down to the gates of death loyal and loving one to another" RL Stevenson
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I knew a guy that was the subject of a Dateline episode. He murdered his GF in 2010 or 2011 because she was going to tell his wife. Was a POS when I knew him more than a decade before.
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Met this piece of shit my first year in corrections.
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/man-sentenced-to-48-years-in-prison-for-killing-1-year-old-girl-malijha-grant/903086208/ Over the years I've met a lot of criminals and alleged murderers, but this is the only one that I can say I know he did it. He would laugh about it in his private phone calls with family, and he always said they would never find the murder weapon. He was the sort of guy that would smile, but his eyes would stay perfectly emotionless. He was one of few inmates I've ever met that was truly evil. |
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Originally Posted By GreatWaputi: There was a lot of weird stuff going on in that case. A lot of speculation her brother is the one who killed her. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By GreatWaputi: Originally Posted By Sartorius: Yup. Went to school with this guy since about 3rd grade. https://kutv.com/news/local/convicted-utah-cop-killer-roberto-roman-sentenced-to-life-in-prison Also went to school with the deputy's sergeant who found her at the shooting scene. And I knew the deputy and her husband and daughter. And I was a personal friend with the sheriff. That was a bad day in our small town. There was a lot of weird stuff going on in that case. A lot of speculation her brother is the one who killed her. |
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I dated THIS guys cousin in High School. Murdered an infant, escaped from the local jail then fled to Mexico. Local Police Chief used to be FBI and he took a team down there and helped the Mexican whom-evers catch him. He got off easy with lethal injection.
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Yes. I go to this wedding of a friend. There's a girl that seems to be where I'm at. The bar, that snack table. We talk a little, find out she's with a guy that is a new fireman, one class ahead of me. The gal that got married told me a couple weeks later tells me she's interested. So I get together with her. She was running hot, I ask about "Mike", she says friends only but something told me to back off. Not a good thing to be peter-in-laws with a co-worker. He was a little odd. He worked a couple stations over so I saw him on drills etc. He had beaver shots of conquests in his locker. I never found if Teri was one.
So, it makes the news. Mike's dad was in a physical rehab center. He could have visitors. Apparently Mike and his sibs and mom were battered by the old man and the old man had threated to hurt them when he got out. Mike walked into the re-hab facility, went to his fathers room and shot him in bed. He put the gun down and sat and waited for the cops. He got off because of the history and actually got hired in a civilian capacity for the county. I'm glad I backed off from banging Teri. |
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My dad went to HS with a guy named Mark Lichtenberger who killed a rookie state trooper during a traffic stop for an equipment violation (tailight IIRC). He used an illegally converted FA SKS. The only article I have found indicates the state police were baffled and couldn't figure out a motive, but it was no secret that he absolutely hated police. Rumor has it that he had warned the local police departments that if they ever pulled him over they better be ready for a gun battle. Apparently the state police didn't get that memo. Trooper pulled him over and as the trooper was exiting his patrol cruiser Mark jumped out and opened fire with deadly precision. He was stopped one more time that night during the ensuing manhunt but the City PD officer that stopped him didn't have backup and didn't desire the same fate as the trooper so kept his distance and Mark just got back in his vehicle and left, the officer did not pursue. They found him the next day, eating Easter dinner with his family as if nothing had happened the night before...
https://www.heraldtimesonline.com/story/news/1999/04/07/suspect-charged-in-troopers-death/118755582/ |
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Not a murderer but I knew a guy who kidnapped and tried to kill a woman but she got away. I knew another guy thst stole over $1/2 mil. Guess which one got more time?
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Very much so. Only time I legitimately needed to clear my house with a rifle and plate carrier was when he was on the lam. My wife testified against him after he was caught. It was all over the news. My wife was on the news taking about it a number of times.
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"The Freedoms and Liberties you have exercised and enjoyed all these years were not given, but were secured by blood. Once given away, it will take blood once again to re-secure them." -Rob Schneider
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I've known quite a few. Most were sorry pieces of shit. I know a couple of pro hit men who are kind of scary.
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Originally Posted By smarquez: Yes. I go to this wedding of a friend. There's a girl that seems to be where I'm at. The bar, that snack table. We talk a little, find out she's with a guy that is a new fireman, one class ahead of me. The gal that got married told me a couple weeks later tells me she's interested. So I get together with her. She was running hot, I ask about "Mike", she says friends only but something told me to back off. Not a good thing to be peter-in-laws with a co-worker. He was a little odd. He worked a couple stations over so I saw him on drills etc. He had beaver shots of conquests in his locker. I never found if Teri was one. So, it makes the news. Mike's dad was in a physical rehab center. He could have visitors. Apparently Mike and his sibs and mom were battered by the old man and the old man had threated to hurt them when he got out. Mike walked into the re-hab facility, went to his fathers room and shot him in bed. He put the gun down and sat and waited for the cops. He got off because of the history and actually got hired in a civilian capacity for the county. I'm glad I backed off from banging Teri. View Quote Is this some sort of a copypasta? |
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"The Freedoms and Liberties you have exercised and enjoyed all these years were not given, but were secured by blood. Once given away, it will take blood once again to re-secure them." -Rob Schneider
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A good friend of my wife's was shot and killed by his son a few years back. I met the kid and the parents a few times. Son was an adult at the time, it was a argument at home, not sure about what. My wife swears the wife instigated it somehow, I have no idea.
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When people fear their government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty. ---- Thomas Jefferson
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Yes, small town in northern Indiana. Sat next to him in a cad class I was friends with some of his friends. He and one of his buddies ended up making the New York Time paper sometime around 2000. Don’t even know if he was 18 yet. Got life without the chance of parole.
Was at his house once, swastikas everywhere. His parents did not give a shit. It was crazy. Another of his friends that I knew actually turned him in. |
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Yes. She was a client of mine and she used to cut my hair when I lived in TC area.
https://www.northernexpress.com/news/feature/article-4475-doubt-anne-avery-miller/ |
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I’ve known 3.
In HS a buddy had shot his teacher before getting some help and moving to our school. He went on to college and law school and is quite successful Also in HS, friend and neighbors dad hired someone to kill his soon to be ex-wife. If you’re over 40 you probably saw that one on the news. After retiring from the Navy, i became a teacher in a pretty tough HS. Many of my students were/ are in gangs. By his senior year one of them already had 3 violent felonies under his belt. Shortly after graduating he was “disrespected” by another kid and subsequently beat him to death, taking the kid’s wallet as a trophy. He plead guilty to capital murder, avoiding the death penalty, but was killed in prison about 6 years ago. |
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Yes, a few.
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Nope but I've concluded that 95% of murderers are incredibly stupid people. And that includes all the ones that have PHD's, etc.
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I had a friend I hung out with in my law enforcement circle, but I retired (early) a couple of years ago and moved away from the area. The guy kinda dropped off the map, and I hadn't heard or seen from him for a while.
Recently I went back to the area I used to police in for a "family" gathering, and I asked what happened to our old friend and found out he got in a road rage incident, forced some guy off the road, and started pummeling him. The guy managed to pull a knife and stuck him a couple of times and was able to get away. Apparently, my old friend, all stabbed and cut up, got back to his car, retrieved a gun, and started shooting at the guy in his car, and only hit and killed the guy's 12-year-old girl. Pretty f'ed up. What a stupid waste of life because of stupid choices. |
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Worked with a guy for a while who later robbed a gas station and beat the counter lady to death with a tire iron.
He was a creepy guy |
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I suggest we trade a question mark in for a maybe.
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Originally Posted By hooligan223: Not a murderer but I knew a guy who kidnapped and tried to kill a woman but she got away. I knew another guy thst stole over $1/2 mil. Guess which one got more time? View Quote Former coworker of mine(21 at the time this happened) contacted his ex. He had pictures of her giving him a blowjob and if she didn't contact him by the following Tuesday he was going to post them online. He was 19, she was 17 in the pictures. So he got charged with child porn for the pictures. The act was legal when the pic was taken, taking pictures of it was not. He got 2 years for that part. But by saying to contact him or he would post the pics he also got an extortion charge. 5 years for that one. |
WARNING-this post contains words or thoughts that may at some point be discovered by the state of California to cause cancer.
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I suggest we trade a question mark in for a maybe.
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I completely forgot. Two little girls were found murdered in Evansdale, IA several years ago, and the murderer killed himself.
He hung out at my dad's house when I was 12-14. My stepmom's younger sister had a bunch of high school friends who would come out to my dad's acreage to party, he was one of them. ETA-I had it wrong. He kidnapped two other girls, one escaped and he killed the other one, not believed to have killed the Evansdale girls. |
WARNING-this post contains words or thoughts that may at some point be discovered by the state of California to cause cancer.
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Yep, a friend in high school killed his aunt, I think? with a knife not long after he graduated. He was going to DeVry and was always a good guy in school. You just never know.
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Yep,
Couple with two kids. Dad went off the rails after an ugly divorce. Hid in the brush along a running trail and raped and murdered a jogger. Went to jail for said actions. He ended up dying of cancer in jail. |
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Two for certain, and one pretty sure... Two of the three were cops
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I knew a guy who years later killed his wife. Technically he wasn't a murderer at the time that I knew him.
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One of my friends sisters was dating a guy that tried to hire a guy to kill his ex wife but the guy he tried to hire turned him in. That is a close as I have been to personally knowing a murderer.
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Some people...
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A guy I went to high school with stabbed his girlfriend like 87 times.
I knew guy and his mother through work. He removed her head from her body with a bread knife. I didn't know them per se, but I have been involved in the arrests of somewhere around probably 200 murderers. Some of them were pretty fucked up individuals. |
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