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Posted: 5/10/2024 1:51:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David_ESM: Caleb Williams on how he's establishing his leadership while he's also learning the culture of the Bears: "To be a great leader, you have to learn how to follow first. So right now I'm following all the vets, I'm following all the coaches, I'm listening - having both ears open and my mouth shut - just kind of sitting back listening. When I get to the point of when I learn everything, when I learn the ways of how we do it, the culture, the playbook and what the offensive line, wide receivers are all doing, running backs and tight ends, things like that, then you can start taking the lead, then you can start taking the helms of it and take the next steps. For right now though, I'm listening more than I'm speaking and talking and I'm taking it one step at a time and being in the moment." Caleb Williams lecturing on what it takes to be a great leader is like Chris Christie lecturing on what it takes to be physically fit. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 3:33:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/10/2024 3:33:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/10/2024 3:41:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David_ESM:
The Chiefs probably should have matched this number, especially with Rashee Rice's season in limbo. With Rice out, Justin Watson is probably WR2 until week 6-8 or so when Worthy should be coming on line and Rice comes back. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 3:55:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hunter-Killer]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David_ESM:
Hard to find sympathy for someone bitching about flying commercial who, in addition to the money he has from his rookie deal and endorsements, is currently on a $112M/4 year deal. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 4:24:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/10/2024 5:09:34 PM EDT
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Via PFT: The latest incident involving Chiefs receiver Rashee Rice has prompted some in the media to dust off pre-draft reports from anonymous scouts who expressed negative opinions about Rice. The fact, however, that those opinions have been validated by recent events doesn't make it right to smear players with the subjective beliefs of those who might benefit from a player slipping and sliding in the draft.
There are certain objective facts, however, that teams became aware of - and that did not come to light publicly before the draft. Those facts could impact the manner in which his current entanglements are handled by the NFL. Per multiple sources, multiple teams learned during the pre-draft process about an alleged incident involving Rice while he was at SMU. Rice believed former SMU basketball player Kendric Davis was seeing Rice's girlfriend. Rice and some of his friends, per the specific information gathered by at least one team, went to an SMU basketball game. Rice (or someone with him), per the specific information gathered by at least one team, fired multiple bullets into the empty car belonging to Kendric Davis. The incident was never reported to authorities by SMU. (An SMU spokesperson had no comment on the situation.) |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 6:00:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David_ESM: Via PFT: The latest incident involving Chiefs receiver Rashee Rice has prompted some in the media to dust off pre-draft reports from anonymous scouts who expressed negative opinions about Rice. The fact, however, that those opinions have been validated by recent events doesn't make it right to smear players with the subjective beliefs of those who might benefit from a player slipping and sliding in the draft. There are certain objective facts, however, that teams became aware of - and that did not come to light publicly before the draft. Those facts could impact the manner in which his current entanglements are handled by the NFL. Per multiple sources, multiple teams learned during the pre-draft process about an alleged incident involving Rice while he was at SMU. Rice believed former SMU basketball player Kendric Davis was seeing Rice's girlfriend. Rice and some of his friends, per the specific information gathered by at least one team, went to an SMU basketball game. Rice (or someone with him), per the specific information gathered by at least one team, fired multiple bullets into the empty car belonging to Kendric Davis. The incident was never reported to authorities by SMU. (An SMU spokesperson had no comment on the situation.) Here we go again   |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 7:06:59 AM EDT
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An article popped up on E.com about Jerod Mayo saying the legacy of the new regime in NE will be tied directly to their pick of Drake Maye at #3 in the draft. It got me wondering what BB would have done in this year's draft. Would he have picked Maye at #3? Traded down? Taken J.J. McCarthy at #3? Taken the best defensive player there?
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:58:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin: An article popped up on E.com about Jerod Mayo saying the legacy of the new regime in NE will be tied directly to their pick of Drake Maye at #3 in the draft. It got me wondering what BB would have done in this year's draft. Would he have picked Maye at #3? Traded down? Taken J.J. McCarthy at #3? Taken the best defensive player there? I'm thinking he would have traded down. He definitely would have traded down and taken someone like Javon Foster in round 1. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 9:33:17 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/12/2024 10:09:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryI don't get it.... |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 9:49:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin: I don't get it.... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin: I don't get it.... Open field tackle? |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 10:00:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin: I don't get it.... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin: I don't get it.... kickoffs like that arent happening anymore |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 11:37:41 PM EDT
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Get this crazyness
Steelers intertained the idea of QB Justin Fields returning punts/kickoffs. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 11:38:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akcaribouhunter: Get this crazyness Steelers intertained the idea of QB Justin Fields returning punts/kickoffs. tf no way. |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 11:44:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: tf no way. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Originally Posted By akcaribouhunter: Get this crazyness Steelers intertained the idea of QB Justin Fields returning punts/kickoffs. tf no way. Danny Smith needs to fired. 
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Posted: 5/13/2024 8:31:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/13/2024 9:36:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/219476/1000008379-3213151.jpg LJax gets to see his first Super Bowl banner ceremony.
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Posted: 5/13/2024 10:40:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: LJax gets to see his first Super Bowl banner ceremony. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/219476/1000008379-3213151.jpg LJax gets to see his first Super Bowl banner ceremony. I’m not saying Groot is THE most overrated QB I’ve ever seen, but, based on media narratives, he is definitely in the conversation, IMO. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 10:44:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer: I'm not saying Groot is THE most overrated QB I've ever seen, but, based on media narratives, he is definitely in the conversation, IMO. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/219476/1000008379-3213151.jpg LJax gets to see his first Super Bowl banner ceremony. I'm not saying Groot is THE most overrated QB I've ever seen, but, based on media narratives, he is definitely in the conversation, IMO.  |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 11:03:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Hunter-Killer]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akcaribouhunter: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/146520/Screenshot_20240317-222228_Facebook-3213258.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akcaribouhunter: Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/219476/1000008379-3213151.jpg LJax gets to see his first Super Bowl banner ceremony. I'm not saying Groot is THE most overrated QB I've ever seen, but, based on media narratives, he is definitely in the conversation, IMO. That comparison reminds me of when Prince was talking about the Chappelle Show “Charlie Murphy’s True Hollywood Stories” skit where Prince and has effeminate crew beat Charlie Murphy and his crew in a basketball game. Prince said “yeah, that really happened, and it’s not that I’m good at basketball, it’s that Charlie Murphy is bad.”  |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 11:14:20 AM EDT
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This season will be the New York Giants 100th and they have a few things planned to celebrate it.
 Will wear a commemorative patch all season long:  100th season apparel:  Eli Manning will throw out the 1st pitch at a Yankees game, they will give out an Eli bobble head, part of recognizing the 18 seasons the Giants played at Yankee Stadium:  The Giants will host 100: A Night with the Legends event at The Theater at Madison Square Garden. Will include current coaches, players, Tom Coughlin and Bill Parcells. Starting in July the Giants will reveal their Top 100 Players all time. Will designate three games during the season to celebrate phases of their history:
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Posted: 5/13/2024 11:16:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/219476/1000008379-3213151.jpg As usual, I expect everything to have been leaked out and trickled online well before the official announcement. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 11:48:16 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/13/2024 12:04:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By David_ESM:
“… who is a close friend of Caleb Williams.”  |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 12:10:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer: I’m not saying Groot is THE most overrated QB I’ve ever seen, but, based on media narratives, he is definitely in the conversation, IMO. Idk. Dude has won something like 80% of the games he has started. That's not an accident. But, watching him attempt the forward pass is almost painful at times. IMO he is a smaller, faster, Cam Newton. And Cam was out of the league by 32. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 12:13:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Notcalifornialegal]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By colklink: Idk. Dude has won something like 80% of the games he has started. That's not an accident. But, watching him attempt the forward pass is almost painful at times. IMO he is a smaller, faster, Cam Newton. And Cam was out of the league by 32. Has a true "dual threat" QB ever won a Superbowl? |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 12:15:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Has a true "dual threat" QB ever won a Superbowl? Not to my knowledge. Steve Young would maybe be the closest. The league rules are designed to encourage passing. QBs have all kinds of protection, as long as they are passing. As soon as they go RB that's out the window. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 12:29:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By colklink: Idk. Dude has won something like 80% of the games he has started. That's not an accident. But, watching him attempt the forward pass is almost painful at times. IMO he is a smaller, faster, Cam Newton. And Cam was out of the league by 32. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By colklink: Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer: I’m not saying Groot is THE most overrated QB I’ve ever seen, but, based on media narratives, he is definitely in the conversation, IMO. Idk. Dude has won something like 80% of the games he has started. That's not an accident. But, watching him attempt the forward pass is almost painful at times. IMO he is a smaller, faster, Cam Newton. And Cam was out of the league by 32. People in the media were comparing him to Michael Jordan when he had fewer playoff wins than Dak Prescott. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 12:31:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By colklink: Idk. Dude has won something like 80% of the games he has started. That's not an accident. But, watching him attempt the forward pass is almost painful at times. IMO he is a smaller, faster, Cam Newton. And Cam was out of the league by 32. Lamar is a good and dangerous player, and he does his part to help his team win games, but his team has been pretty consistently good on defense and ST, and his record always seems to carry weird caveats. In particular, it's those "in games against teams that score X points" and "in games where his team trails by 10 points" stats where he tends to look pretty rough, and it tends to be because his offense has to do more heavy lifting, and they can't pay the bills with run heavy, ball control play calling. Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Has a true "dual threat" QB ever won a Superbowl? The thing I have always found weird is that "dual threat" typically refers to QBs that are only relevant due to their rushing ability. If pure pocket passers are in one category, and run heavy guys are in another, shouldn't the term "dual threat" refer to Mahomes and Allen kind of guys in the middle that can bombard you through the air AND break your defense on the ground? |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 12:32:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer: People in the media were comparing him to Michael Jordan when he had fewer playoff wins than Dak Prescott. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Originally Posted By colklink: Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer: I’m not saying Groot is THE most overrated QB I’ve ever seen, but, based on media narratives, he is definitely in the conversation, IMO. Idk. Dude has won something like 80% of the games he has started. That's not an accident. But, watching him attempt the forward pass is almost painful at times. IMO he is a smaller, faster, Cam Newton. And Cam was out of the league by 32. People in the media were comparing him to Michael Jordan when he had fewer playoff wins than Dak Prescott. The AP also just gave him one of the most fraudulent MVP awards we've ever seen in a season where he didn't lead efficiency or volume stats. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 12:37:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: The AP also just gave him one of the most fraudulent MVP awards we've ever seen in a season where he didn't lead efficiency or volume stats. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Originally Posted By colklink: Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer: I’m not saying Groot is THE most overrated QB I’ve ever seen, but, based on media narratives, he is definitely in the conversation, IMO. Idk. Dude has won something like 80% of the games he has started. That's not an accident. But, watching him attempt the forward pass is almost painful at times. IMO he is a smaller, faster, Cam Newton. And Cam was out of the league by 32. People in the media were comparing him to Michael Jordan when he had fewer playoff wins than Dak Prescott. The AP also just gave him one of the most fraudulent MVP awards we've ever seen in a season where he didn't lead efficiency or volume stats. One vote away from unanimous too with the other vote going to Allen. Dak and Purdy (the two it SHOULD have been between) didn’t get a single vote. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 12:37:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer: People in the media were comparing him to Michael Jordan when he had fewer playoff wins than Dak Prescott. You can discount anything that a person that made that comparison forever. Because they are retarded. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 12:38:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer: One vote away from unanimous too with the other vote going to Allen. Dak and Purdy (the two it SHOULD have been between) didn’t get a single vote. Yep. Purdy should have won, he had a slightly better season statically than Dak. But you are correct, it should have been between those two. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 12:48:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By colklink: You can discount anything that a person that made that comparison forever. Because they are retarded. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By colklink: Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer: People in the media were comparing him to Michael Jordan when he had fewer playoff wins than Dak Prescott. You can discount anything that a person that made that comparison forever. Because they are retarded. Regardless, that is the narrative for Groot. That, along with his joke of an MVP, are the main reasons Groot is arguably the most overrated active QB in the NFL. Also, his career winning percentage is 72%. Of course, “elite” QBs shouldn’t be judged by what they do in the regular season, but by what they do in the postseason and Groot has as many postseason wins as Dak. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 1:10:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: tf no way. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Originally Posted By akcaribouhunter: Get this crazyness Steelers intertained the idea of QB Justin Fields returning punts/kickoffs. tf no way. Have you seen him play QB? |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 1:16:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Regardless, that is the narrative for Groot. That, along with his joke of an MVP, are the main reasons Groot is arguably the most overrated active QB in the NFL. Also, his career winning percentage is 72%. Of course, “elite” QBs shouldn’t be judged by what they do in the regular season, but by what they do in the postseason and Groot has as many postseason wins as Dak. I remember reading a few years ago it was 80%, or head it on a sports talk show, can't remember. He does win a lot of games in the regular season. But, IMO any team with him as QB is extremely limited. They have to win a certain way. Or they lose. I still don't understand why they stopped running the ball against KC in the championship game. They totally went away from what they do best. That was kinda bizarre. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 1:24:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Lamar is a good and dangerous player, and he does his part to help his team win games, but his team has been pretty consistently good on defense and ST, and his record always seems to carry weird caveats. In particular, it's those "in games against teams that score X points" and "in games where his team trails by 10 points" stats where he tends to look pretty rough, and it tends to be because his offense has to do more heavy lifting, and they can't pay the bills with run heavy, ball control play calling. The thing I have always found weird is that "dual threat" typically refers to QBs that are only relevant due to their rushing ability. If pure pocket passers are in one category, and run heavy guys are in another, shouldn't the term "dual threat" refer to Mahomes and Allen kind of guys in the middle that can bombard you through the air AND break your defense on the ground? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: Originally Posted By colklink: Idk. Dude has won something like 80% of the games he has started. That's not an accident. But, watching him attempt the forward pass is almost painful at times. IMO he is a smaller, faster, Cam Newton. And Cam was out of the league by 32. Lamar is a good and dangerous player, and he does his part to help his team win games, but his team has been pretty consistently good on defense and ST, and his record always seems to carry weird caveats. In particular, it's those "in games against teams that score X points" and "in games where his team trails by 10 points" stats where he tends to look pretty rough, and it tends to be because his offense has to do more heavy lifting, and they can't pay the bills with run heavy, ball control play calling. Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Has a true "dual threat" QB ever won a Superbowl? The thing I have always found weird is that "dual threat" typically refers to QBs that are only relevant due to their rushing ability. If pure pocket passers are in one category, and run heavy guys are in another, shouldn't the term "dual threat" refer to Mahomes and Allen kind of guys in the middle that can bombard you through the air AND break your defense on the ground? IMO, yes it should. Favre & Rodgers made plenty of memorable scrambles for us GB fans as well, but they weren’t typically planned and you really only saw maybe one or two a game. That kind of QB should just be a QB. A guy like Brady who only ran if he absolutely had to, and when he did everybody watching just wanted it to stop, should be a pocket passer. Guys like Mahomes, Allen, young Wilson, or Hurts should be dual threat QBs. Guys like Vick, Fields, & Groot should probably have a newer term like running QB’s or something. Counter argument could be that dual threat only applies to the more run focused guys because it’s an intentional aspect of their offensive game plan vs a secondary athletic ability. Therefore from a defensive perspective there are two intentional ways that QB will attack you & you must plan for them both vs being alert to a play breaking down & the QB running which is just normal football at this point. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 1:37:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Maverick52: A guy like Brady who only ran if he absolutely had to, and when he did everybody watching just wanted it to stop, should be a pocket passer. It will never not be funny to me how bizarrely obsessed Brady was with his rushing stats even going so far as to take kneel downs with his helmet pressed up against his center’s ass. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 1:56:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Wobblin-Goblin]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Has a true "dual threat" QB ever won a Superbowl? Elway was a true "dual threat" QB for the first half of his career, although when he won his Super Bowls, he wasn't that much of a rushing threat anymore. Steve Young definitely was a dual threat QB and he won his Super Bowl in the prime of his career. ETA: and obviously Mahomes. Personally, I think Elway and Young were more dangerous as runners (during their prime, of course), but Mahomes absolutely is a dual threat QB. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 2:14:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin: Steve Young definitely was a dual threat QB and he won his Super Bowl in the prime of his career. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin: Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal: Has a true "dual threat" QB ever won a Superbowl? Steve Young definitely was a dual threat QB and he won his Super Bowl in the prime of his career. What’s really impressive about Young is how good his career passing stats are for the era he played in. For career Passer Rating, Steve Young currently ranks 14th all time. You have Joe Montana at #22, but other than him, you’d have to go all the way down to Otto Graham at #44 to find the next highest QB that played his entire career in the 20th century. For comparison, Troy Aikman (who played during the same era as Young) is #81. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 2:16:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI gotta admit, that's one of the best "commemorative" logo designs I've seen. Most are ugly. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 2:17:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/13/2024 2:23:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Requiem: I gotta admit, that's one of the best "commemorative" logo designs I've seen. Most are ugly. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 2:23:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer:
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Posted: 5/13/2024 2:33:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/13/2024 3:08:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Very loaded field for Comeback Player of the Year. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/IMG_8571_jpeg-3213454.JPG Stefon Diggs Nothing for Greenlaw after blew his achilles on the sideline? |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 3:17:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer: It will never not be funny to me how bizarrely obsessed Brady was with his rushing stats even going so far as to take kneel downs with his helmet pressed up against his center’s ass. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Originally Posted By Maverick52: A guy like Brady who only ran if he absolutely had to, and when he did everybody watching just wanted it to stop, should be a pocket passer. It will never not be funny to me how bizarrely obsessed Brady was with his rushing stats even going so far as to take kneel downs with his helmet pressed up against his center’s ass. It’s hilarious. I mean the guy is the GOAT, and even if he wasn’t THE most talented passer he was still an elite passer, and he absolutely looked out of place running on the same field as the other athletes. Just take the L on your rushing stats, that’s not a bad “what would you say is your greatest weakness” stat lol. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 3:51:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Maverick52: It's hilarious. I mean the guy is the GOAT, and even if he wasn't THE most talented passer he was still an elite passer, and he absolutely looked out of place running on the same field as the other athletes. Just take the L on your rushing stats, that's not a bad "what would you say is your greatest weakness" stat lol. T-23rd all time in rushing touchdowns by a quarterback. He's a dual threat!
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