Originally Posted By DB0351:


I used to think the same thing. I was told just yesterday in a thread that we support politicians that are too pro2a in the Brandon Herrera thread.

This forum sadly isn’t what it used to be, in my opinion. People will screech in other threads about thieves and personal accountability. But it’s all a virtue signal.

Originally Posted By Bat15:


You don’t get probation for being found not guilty. Getting probation happens to people who plead guilty or are found guilty.  She needs a lawyer.

Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
I’m amazed that people in this thread think that an 18-year-old white girl would shoplift from Target and then spin a tale to her dad about it after she got caught.

That’s pretty unbelievable.

Originally Posted By JimEN:
I'd hire an attorney.

Originally Posted By Whiskey1Alpha:
Longtime friend came over for BBQ and beer this weekend. Tells me a story of his 18 year old daughter that went to Target, used the self checkout and forgot 2 smaller items on the bottom shelf that amounted like like $40 after paying for $200+ items that were in the cart.

Checks out, walks to the door and before she leaves 2 random dudes come up to her block her, 1 grabs the cart almost pushing her back and they tell her forcefully that she needs to come with them. She has zero idea what to do, doesn't think she did anything wrong and goes with these guys to the security office where they tell her they just caught her stealing. She's confused as she has a receipt. They say they're calling the cops and she freaks out as she has never been in trouble at all with anything.

The big mistake here is that she is too scared/embarrassed to call dad at this point as he would have asked if an officer was present (there was none) and told her to have either left or to meet him outside in the parking lot to figure out WTF was going on. Instead, she sits there for almost 2 hours until a officer decides to show up as I'm sure this guy didn't want to deal with the paperwork. The hilarious thing is that while she was sitting there for 2 hours, they pulled in 2 black girls who literally started fighting with the staff and they were mysteriously gone by the time the officer arrived.

Officer shows up, talks to the security office people and they fill him in on the 'theft'. He looks at the camera footage and instantly tells them it clearly looks like an accident with zero intent. Offers to have her pay for the items and be done as well as mentions that she did not actually leave the store with any items and she must be some criminal mastermind to buy 200$ worth of items to steal 2 plastic storages boxes left on the bottom of the cart. They don't want to do that as apparently this specific store has been targeted with thieves and they are watching 100% of self checkout transactions hence why they caught this so fast. Officer is forced to write a citation for 'petty larceny' and she's sent home. Get's a mailer card a bit later with a court date.

Dad has called the court, prosecutors office and no one knows anything other than there's a court date. He googled the charge and its a misdemeanor with usually some smallish fine and can be sealed within 6 months to a year - makes a lawyer basically unwarranted especially due to cost. Main issue right now is none of us have ever had to deal with any court stuff, for anything other than a divorce.

She has a court date set middle of next month that basically gives her case number, time/date and where to go.

We were trying to figure out what was next? She shows up to a shitty downtown judicial building and sits around for hours to get some copy/paste 'deal' for a fine? Or what usually happens here? I can't imagine they'd actually send this to a trial or whatever as A. she has 0 history B. the case is flimsy as it is as the first thing needed to prove petty larceny in Nevada is intent and C. who the hell would want to waste time and resources on this?

What usually happens at that point?

It's insane to me watching people steal thousands from stores on youtube and ransack gas stations and malls with zero repercussions yet we end up with this?

Originally Posted By Whiskey1Alpha:
Officer shows up, talks to the security office people and they fill him in on the 'theft'. He looks at the camera footage and instantly tells them it clearly looks like an accident with zero intent. Offers to have her pay for the items and be done as well as mentions that she did not actually leave the store with any items and she must be some criminal mastermind to buy 200$ worth of items to steal 2 plastic storages boxes left on the bottom of the cart. They don't want to do that as apparently this specific store has been targeted with thieves and they are watching 100% of self checkout transactions hence why they caught this so fast. Officer is forced to write a citation for 'petty larceny' and she's sent home. Get's a mailer card a bit later with a court date.

Originally Posted By fadedsun:


Holy crap

Store security is allowed to stop people to detain them for theft.

She would have been arrested for Robbery, Murder, and instead of a simple theft with a fine going to actual jail and prison.





I agree.

I imagine it's not as the OP was told but she can take this as a learning experience and change.



Sue them for what?

Even in the OP's scenario a stop is still justified and the elements of theft are met.

Originally Posted By BloodRaven:

First, get an attorney. No question about that. Then, tell the attorney what the cop said. Maybe they can get the cop on the stand and have him repeat what he said to the judge. If the judge hears it from a cop, he's more likely to dismiss.

Worth a shot, imo.