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Link Posted: 3/10/2024 10:55:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sierra-def:


Again here is where you show your lack of reading history.
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What history did I not read?
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 10:56:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dagoth-Ur:


Yeah, not wanting to get suckered into fighting another bullshit war to the benefit of Bankers, moralists, and Internationalists means we have to simp for one of the factions, it totally wasn’t that we had a bigger threat state side (FDR and his total of power) right?

How many homes or farms did the German army take because of their inability to pay the progressive savior that is Muh income tax?

How many people were legally robbed at gun point of their Gold? Who was doing the robbing again? The Japanese Army or the jack boots at the IRS/FBI?
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Originally Posted By Dagoth-Ur:
Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:

You got that right. Half of GD would simping for Hitler. Maybe two-thirds. Buncha slack-jawed faggots in here.


Yeah, not wanting to get suckered into fighting another bullshit war to the benefit of Bankers, moralists, and Internationalists means we have to simp for one of the factions, it totally wasn’t that we had a bigger threat state side (FDR and his total of power) right?

How many homes or farms did the German army take because of their inability to pay the progressive savior that is Muh income tax?

How many people were legally robbed at gun point of their Gold? Who was doing the robbing again? The Japanese Army or the jack boots at the IRS/FBI?


So, you are somehow managing to Simp for the WW-II Nazis, and today’s Russians?      That’s amazing.  

If you had to pick a side in 1940, who would you prefer Stalin, or Hitler?
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 10:58:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 0612Devil:


I’m amazed by the number of Putin knob slobberers on this site.

You would think there would be less support for one of our two near peer enemies.
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Why are they are enemy again? It’s not 1986 dude, Cold War is over, Neo cons and Neoliberals just need a new boogeyman to draw attention away from their tyrannical regime and their policies/actions and their harmful results.
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 10:59:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wyomingnick:


Bullshit.
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Again, that’s not an argument.
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 11:00:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dagoth-Ur:


What did I get wrong?

Look at who side your own and who supports the same actions you do, often for a very sinister agenda.
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Originally Posted By Dagoth-Ur:
Originally Posted By sierra-def:


Lol.

Look Skippy, you are not the first person to hate the elites, the Libs, the Rinos, etc, but don't let that clout basic facts. Instead you want to falsely accuse and toss labels at people simply because you failed to read history. What does that say about you?


What did I get wrong?

Look at who side your own and who supports the same actions you do, often for a very sinister agenda.


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Link Posted: 3/10/2024 11:00:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dagoth-Ur:


Again, that's not an argument.

Yeah, it's all because of Muh blue party, not because of what they doing is not working, resulting in fraud and theft of tax payers money, increasing the debt, and frankly deliberately plotting to provoke a larger conflict so the elite can maintain their hold on power at best, at worst burn Western civilization in nuclear fire if they can't maintain their ill gotten gains, right?
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Youve blames: Bankers, the IRS, FDR, CIA, Nazis, Zelensky, the Democrats, among others.  You claim the UK is responsible for WW1, that WW2 wasnt a threat to the US, that supplying a country at war is somehow 'suckering us into a pointless war,' among other things.  You are constantly changing the reasons for one action or another and can't stay consistent.  Along with jumping from one argument to another you get basic historical facts wrong and omit others because it serves your own purposes. Now you're back on the nuclear doom train to elicit fear from pearl clutchers.
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 11:01:20 PM EDT
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always back the guy that dances in high heels and cancels elections
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 11:01:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dagoth-Ur:


Why are they are enemy again? It’s not 1986 dude, Cold War is over, Neo cons and Neoliberals just need a new boogeyman to draw attention away from their tyrannical regime and their policies/actions and their harmful results.
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Originally Posted By Dagoth-Ur:
Originally Posted By 0612Devil:


I’m amazed by the number of Putin knob slobberers on this site.

You would think there would be less support for one of our two near peer enemies.


Why are they are enemy again? It’s not 1986 dude, Cold War is over, Neo cons and Neoliberals just need a new boogeyman to draw attention away from their tyrannical regime and their policies/actions and their harmful results.


They Invaded Ukraine.    Same as when the Kaiser invaded Belgium, or when Hitler invaded Poland.  

Putin decided to make himself the enemy.  

We were happy to ignore him, or even assist him, until he Invaded Ukraine.
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 11:02:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wyomingnick:

Yup.
If China invaded and was in control of the west coast would we not fire on those areas? Same thing.
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Nope, CCP troops would scream about how “racist” it is we didn’t allow them to immigrate legally, Biden would attack anyone defending America, etc.
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 11:02:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 9divdoc:
always back the guy that dances in high heels and cancels elections
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It’s a Nation of 30 million people.
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 11:03:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sierra-def:


War is ugly, isn't it?
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If that’s the way you play, don’t whine when others throw out the rules then.
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 11:05:40 PM EDT
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"Ukraine Mulls Big Tax Hikes"

Well, yeah. Their money before ours.
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 11:06:00 PM EDT
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If you think this has a happy ending, you haven’t been paying attention.
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 11:06:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Squeefoo:

I think you missed the part where Ukraine shelled the Russians in the Donbass for years.
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Originally Posted By sierra-def:


Uhm... did I miss the part where Ukraine invaded Russia?

I think you missed the part where Ukraine shelled the Russians in the Donbass for years.


Donbass... Ukraine?
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 11:07:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dagoth-Ur:


Why are they are enemy again? It’s not 1986 dude, Cold War is over, Neo cons and Neoliberals just need a new boogeyman to draw attention away from their tyrannical regime and their policies/actions and their harmful results.
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Is that you, Obama?
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 11:09:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher15:
Youve blames: Bankers, the IRS, FDR, CIA, Nazis, Zelensky, the Democrats, among others.  You claim the UK is responsible for WW1, that WW2 wasnt a threat to the US, that supplying a country at war is somehow 'suckering us into a pointless war,' among other things.  You are constantly changing the reasons for one action or another and can't stay consistent.  Along with jumping from one argument to another you get basic historical facts wrong and omit others because it serves your own purposes. Now you're back on the nuclear doom train to elicit fear from pearl clutchers.
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I think we might be dealing with a person who’s been pushed in so many directions and is now just broken and is blaming everything and everyone. The entire Western society is to blame for his life being the way that it is now, starting with a revisionist history of WW1 all the way up to present day. Hell, I’m curious what his thoughts on the American Revolution are
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 11:10:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dagoth-Ur:


If that’s the way you play, don’t whine when others throw out the rules then.
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Originally Posted By Dagoth-Ur:
Originally Posted By sierra-def:


War is ugly, isn't it?


If that’s the way you play, don’t whine when others throw out the rules then.


You can make points but ignoring history doesn't help your argument.

Link Posted: 3/10/2024 11:12:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By KELBEAST:


I think we might be dealing with a person who’s been pushed in so many directions and is now just broken and is blaming everything and everyone. The entire Western society is to blame for his life being the way that it is now, starting with a revisionist history of WW1 all the way up to present day. Hell, I’m curious what his thoughts on the American Revolution are
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Originally Posted By Cypher15:
Youve blames: Bankers, the IRS, FDR, CIA, Nazis, Zelensky, the Democrats, among others.  You claim the UK is responsible for WW1, that WW2 wasnt a threat to the US, that supplying a country at war is somehow 'suckering us into a pointless war,' among other things.  You are constantly changing the reasons for one action or another and can't stay consistent.  Along with jumping from one argument to another you get basic historical facts wrong and omit others because it serves your own purposes. Now you're back on the nuclear doom train to elicit fear from pearl clutchers.


I think we might be dealing with a person who’s been pushed in so many directions and is now just broken and is blaming everything and everyone. The entire Western society is to blame for his life being the way that it is now, starting with a revisionist history of WW1 all the way up to present day. Hell, I’m curious what his thoughts on the American Revolution are


He will come back and say the founding fathers were traitors.
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 11:19:11 PM EDT
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Yep, the dregs of ARFCOM show up and do what they do best.
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That Dagoth-Ur troll has only been on the site for a few months and already has 4,000 posts. 90 percent of it is Russian propaganda.
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 11:22:38 PM EDT
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That Dagoth-Ur troll has only been on the site for a few months and already has 4,000 posts. 90 percent of it is Russian propaganda.
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Originally Posted By Cypher15:
Yep, the dregs of ARFCOM show up and do what they do best.

That Dagoth-Ur troll has only been on the site for a few months and already has 4,000 posts. 90 percent of it is Russian propaganda.


Must pay well.
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 11:27:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dagoth-Ur:
What did I get wrong?

Look at who side your own and who supports the same actions you do, often for a very sinister agenda.
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You're supporting Hitler. WTF is wrong with you? You think decent people want to be on the same side as you? You are with Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao and all the others. Choosing not to see that you're the monster doesn't make other people monsters.
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 11:28:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BillofRights:


I don’t have to “make an argument”.  Britain had a pact with Belgium.  Germany underestimated British resolve Twice.    Putin is doing the same thing right now.    They are a small island and it’s easy to see why they might be underestimated.     But they have a history of honoring commitments and punching above their weight.  

What is your background which makes you so ridiculously contrary?    It’s sorta fascinating.
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Man, you really can’t understand this isn’t WW2 anymore, can you?

They have a history of idiotic treaties, blind aggression and when it always blows up in their face as it always does they get others to bail themselves out of the mess they themselves created, not again, no more saving that gaggle of voluntary slaves and the hostile elite that lord over them just so people like you can “relive the “good” ole days”
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 11:29:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:

You're supporting Hitler. WTF is wrong with you? You think decent people want to be on the same side as you? You are with Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao and all the others. Choosing not to see that you're the monster doesn't make other people monsters.
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Link Posted: 3/10/2024 11:30:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dagoth-Ur:


Man, you really can’t understand this isn’t WW2 anymore, can you?

They have a history of idiotic treaties, blind aggression and when it always blows up in their face as it always does they get others to bail themselves out of the mess they themselves created, not again, no more saving that gaggle of voluntary slaves and the hostile elite that lord over them just so people like you can “relive the “good” ole days”
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Originally Posted By BillofRights:


I don’t have to “make an argument”.  Britain had a pact with Belgium.  Germany underestimated British resolve Twice.    Putin is doing the same thing right now.    They are a small island and it’s easy to see why they might be underestimated.     But they have a history of honoring commitments and punching above their weight.  

What is your background which makes you so ridiculously contrary?    It’s sorta fascinating.


Man, you really can’t understand this isn’t WW2 anymore, can you?

They have a history of idiotic treaties, blind aggression and when it always blows up in their face as it always does they get others to bail themselves out of the mess they themselves created, not again, no more saving that gaggle of voluntary slaves and the hostile elite that lord over them just so people like you can “relive the “good” ole days”


Ok, now do Israel and Hamas.
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 11:30:46 PM EDT
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That Dagoth-Ur troll has only been on the site for a few months and already has 4,000 posts. 90 percent of it is Russian propaganda.
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But Screechjet and M35Ben are gone.
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 11:32:32 PM EDT
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It would be unthinkable to support both sides of this war? Yes?
It's strange how we are funding "Putin's War".
Strange, I tell you. I'm sure all the UkeBros will be along go tell us how this is a lie. It's Russian propaganda. Anything so they can sleep at night.

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Link Posted: 3/10/2024 11:33:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher15:
Lol wow... and youre one of the pure and righteous eh?
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85% of Americans opposed getting in another pointless war, How do you change that? Instigate hostility is and allow the enemy to hit you . It has been very well documented that Pearl Harbor was a LIHOP (Let It Happen On Purpose)event.

We get it, your a system truster, blind trust in a false God ( The system, the state, etc) never yields positive results
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 11:33:41 PM EDT
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Must pay well.
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Originally Posted By Cypher15:
Yep, the dregs of ARFCOM show up and do what they do best.

That Dagoth-Ur troll has only been on the site for a few months and already has 4,000 posts. 90 percent of it is Russian propaganda.


Must pay well.


At first I assumed the most obvious cause, but now I’m not so sure.   His posts indicate such a consistent hatred for the West, maybe he was just profoundly and completely turned in every single way possible?    He keeps refusing to answer my question.  

Former KGB Agent, Yuri Bezmenov, Warns America About Socialist Subversion
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Originally Posted By Dagoth-Ur:


Man, you really can’t understand this isn’t WW2 anymore, can you?

They have a history of idiotic treaties, blind aggression and when it always blows up in their face as it always does they get others to bail themselves out of the mess they themselves created, not again, no more saving that gaggle of voluntary slaves and the hostile elite that lord over them just so people like you can “relive the “good” ole days”
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Originally Posted By BillofRights:


I don’t have to “make an argument”.  Britain had a pact with Belgium.  Germany underestimated British resolve Twice.    Putin is doing the same thing right now.    They are a small island and it’s easy to see why they might be underestimated.     But they have a history of honoring commitments and punching above their weight.  

What is your background which makes you so ridiculously contrary?    It’s sorta fascinating.


Man, you really can’t understand this isn’t WW2 anymore, can you?

They have a history of idiotic treaties, blind aggression and when it always blows up in their face as it always does they get others to bail themselves out of the mess they themselves created, not again, no more saving that gaggle of voluntary slaves and the hostile elite that lord over them just so people like you can “relive the “good” ole days”


Why do you keep ignoring my question?

What made you into the person you are?  

You apparently Hate everything the West is, and everything that it stands for.    I’m interested to know why.
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 11:37:04 PM EDT
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But Screechjet and M35Ben are gone.
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Where did they go?
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 11:39:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BillofRights:


At first I assumed the most obvious cause, but now I’m not so sure.   His posts indicate such a consistent hatred for the West, maybe he was just profoundly and completely turned in every single way possible?    He keeps refusing to answer my question.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1EA2ohrt5Q
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Yep, the dregs of ARFCOM show up and do what they do best.

That Dagoth-Ur troll has only been on the site for a few months and already has 4,000 posts. 90 percent of it is Russian propaganda.


Must pay well.


At first I assumed the most obvious cause, but now I’m not so sure.   His posts indicate such a consistent hatred for the West, maybe he was just profoundly and completely turned in every single way possible?    He keeps refusing to answer my question.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1EA2ohrt5Q


Maybe Primorsky was told to come back from being mothballed.  

Who knows?  I saw some greasy looking, middle-aged  fat fuck running around in a “Z” t-shirt here in town soon after the Russian invasion began.  You’re right that there’s plenty of fucked up people born and raised here, so it’s possible.  

Link Posted: 3/10/2024 11:47:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By USMCTanker:


We can cut back on wasteful domestic spending designed to buy votes for unworthy, sleazy politicians and still afford to assist the Ukrainians in the righteous cause of killing of more murderous Russian invaders.  It’ll be great!

That’s the beauty of being the most powerful country in the world; we can do all sorts of things concurrently if we just have the right elected officials.
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Cut all foreign aid, and welfare for illegals, 500 Billion saved a year!

I would think securing our border is a more righteous cause.

We aren’t the most powerful, or wealthy, or free anymore,  this idea of American invincibility has enabled really stupid, and frankly evil people to hijack this country and run the ship of state aground appease nitwits, fuckups, idiots, and invaders, ie the people who were rightfully excluded from voting for good reason.
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 11:51:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BillofRights:


So, you are somehow managing to Simp for the WW-II Nazis, and today’s Russians?      That’s amazing.  

If you had to pick a side in 1940, who would you prefer Stalin, or Hitler?
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So you can’t answer the questions because you can’t answer or don’t want to answer? Which is it?

Easy, President Charles Lindbergh, to avoid the conflict all together.

Just because you see a conflict doesn’t mean you have to pick a side or join in. America stayed neutral in foreign wars for damn good reason.
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 11:56:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher15:
Youve blames: Bankers, the IRS, FDR, CIA, Nazis, Zelensky, the Democrats, among others.  You claim the UK is responsible for WW1, that WW2 wasnt a threat to the US, that supplying a country at war is somehow 'suckering us into a pointless war,' among other things.  You are constantly changing the reasons for one action or another and can't stay consistent.  Along with jumping from one argument to another you get basic historical facts wrong and omit others because it serves your own purposes. Now you're back on the nuclear doom train to elicit fear from pearl clutchers.
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I am not going to risk nuclear war for these people, nor the leadership in the West.

I know it’s a hard concept for you to understand, not dying for lesser, weaker, incompetent, or evil people, but it does not make it any less true.
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always back the guy that dances in high heels and cancels elections
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He has to cancel the elections, they are a threat to “Muh Democracy”, didn’t you know that?
Link Posted: 3/11/2024 12:03:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BillofRights:


They Invaded Ukraine.    Same as when the Kaiser invaded Belgium, or when Hitler invaded Poland.  

Putin decided to make himself the enemy.  

We were happy to ignore him, or even assist him, until he Invaded Ukraine.
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Why did they do that?

Did they just wake up one morning and decided “Hey, for Shits and Giggles let’s invade X” or did they have a reason that, from their perspective was totally legitimate, logic, and morally sound?

Which is it, cold, calculating super villains or hotheaded, insane madmen, which is it?

Our country is being invaded, you will understand if my attention is at home, were it belongs, were always belonged to begin with.
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America is also a nation, it’s also being invad as we speak.
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Originally Posted By USMCTanker:


Maybe Primorsky was told to come back from being mothballed.  

Who knows?  I saw some greasy looking, middle-aged  fat fuck running around in a “Z” t-shirt here in town soon after the Russian invasion began.  You’re right that there’s plenty of fucked up people born and raised here, so it’s possible.  

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Yep, the dregs of ARFCOM show up and do what they do best.

That Dagoth-Ur troll has only been on the site for a few months and already has 4,000 posts. 90 percent of it is Russian propaganda.


Must pay well.


At first I assumed the most obvious cause, but now I’m not so sure.   His posts indicate such a consistent hatred for the West, maybe he was just profoundly and completely turned in every single way possible?    He keeps refusing to answer my question.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1EA2ohrt5Q


Maybe Primorsky was told to come back from being mothballed.  

Who knows?  I saw some greasy looking, middle-aged  fat fuck running around in a “Z” t-shirt here in town soon after the Russian invasion began.  You’re right that there’s plenty of fucked up people born and raised here, so it’s possible.  



Sometimes I think these characters are allowed because they stir up controversy and clicks, And, they make people pay for the Memberships.     Win-Win

What I Really want to know, is where all these old accounts are popping up from?  Always few hundred posts, and a desperate need to post Putin Propaganda.      It makes no sense.    They waited 17 years in silence and This is the thing that gets them out of their shell?  
It defies logical explanation.
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Why should I hate Russia in 2024?

Are they working against my rights?

Are they working to import drugs and invaders?

Are they working to push trans bullshit on kids?

No Russian every called me a “racist”, so fuck the elites desire for war with them.
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So 5 years after the revolution, and in the middle of Trump’s presidency (2019), the CIA had enough of Poroshenko and decided they really needed the naked dancing TV man to be in charge of Ukraine? Did Trump approve of that regime change? Is this all Trumps fault that the high heeled queer man is making Putin look stupid as fuck? Is this all 5d chess on Trump’s part to actually beat Russia by gay actor proxy?
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Whatever year he took office.


So 5 years after the revolution, and in the middle of Trump’s presidency (2019), the CIA had enough of Poroshenko and decided they really needed the naked dancing TV man to be in charge of Ukraine? Did Trump approve of that regime change? Is this all Trumps fault that the high heeled queer man is making Putin look stupid as fuck? Is this all 5d chess on Trump’s part to actually beat Russia by gay actor proxy?


Whatever CIA and State was doing in Ukraine during Trump's presidency, they were doing it in spite of him, not at his behest.  Which is why as soon as he opened his own channel to Ukraine, the response of the Uniparty was immediate filing of Peach Mints.  

Kind of like where some high placed Generals admitted to pursuing their own military goals in Syria, in violation of Trump's direction to withdraw from the conflict area.............
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Huh. This thread must be like what GD would have been like in the 1930’s when these posters’ grandparents were carrying Germany’s water.
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The two situations are not even remotely similar.
Link Posted: 3/11/2024 12:11:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dagoth-Ur:



Why did they do that?

Did they just wake up one morning and decided “Hey, for Shits and Giggles let’s invade X” or did they have a reason that, from their perspective was totally legitimate, logic, and morally sound?

Which is it, cold, calculating super villains or hotheaded, insane madmen, which is it?

Our country is being invaded, you will understand if my attention is at home, were it belongs, were always belonged to begin with.
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Originally Posted By BillofRights:


They Invaded Ukraine.    Same as when the Kaiser invaded Belgium, or when Hitler invaded Poland.  

Putin decided to make himself the enemy.  

We were happy to ignore him, or even assist him, until he Invaded Ukraine.



Why did they do that?

Did they just wake up one morning and decided “Hey, for Shits and Giggles let’s invade X” or did they have a reason that, from their perspective was totally legitimate, logic, and morally sound?

Which is it, cold, calculating super villains or hotheaded, insane madmen, which is it?

Our country is being invaded, you will understand if my attention is at home, were it belongs, were always belonged to begin with.


But, your attention Isn’t at home.     You literally Never miss a chance to simp for Putin and hardly ever discuss anything else.  

A normal American might be against the expense, but you have to admit, a normal American doesn’t make excuses for Hitler.  

Whatever fuels your hatred, your motivation lies Far, Far beyond our illegal immigration problem.   That’s an afterthought for you.   A rationalization.
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Originally Posted By Dagoth-Ur:



Why did they do that?

Did they just wake up one morning and decided “Hey, for Shits and Giggles let’s invade X” or did they have a reason that, from their perspective was totally legitimate, logic, and morally sound?

Which is it, cold, calculating super villains or hotheaded, insane madmen, which is it?

Our country is being invaded, you will understand if my attention is at home, were it belongs, were always belonged to begin with.
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Tell me you don’t know what Russia’s priorities and needs are without telling me. They don’t need to come up with a morally sound justification for the invasion. They want. They want resources, they want to put the USSR back together. Period. Everything they say about Nazis and NATO expansion is a lie.

1. Loss of puppet control of Ukraine following 2014 Maidan
2. Access to Crimea, the only warm water port for the Black Sea Fleet. Go look at the rest of the globe and see why that matters to Russia projecting power
3. Access to offshore oil discoveries in the Black Sea
4. Fertile Ukrainian farmland (Russia already hijacked grain shipments)
4. Ukraine’s technological and industrial base (which are now destroyed, but wouldn’t have been if Russia’s 3 day war had worked)
Link Posted: 3/11/2024 12:16:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher15:
1970s when Democrats were bitching about supplying South Vietnam too.
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Originally Posted By doty_soty:
Huh. This thread must be like what GD would have been like in the 1930's when these posters' grandparents were carrying Germany's water.
1970s when Democrats were bitching about supplying South Vietnam too.


Except back then the Democrats were commies, and we were anti-commie so supplying South Vietnam was fighting the spread of communism.

Today, the Commie Democrats are in charge here, Russia is no longer communist, but the World Community that the Democrats are trying to bring Ukraine into, is.  And America, which back then was the Pillar if individual Liberty and Constitutional freedom, is now not necessarily any better morally than the Soviet Union was back in the Vietnam War times.  
Link Posted: 3/11/2024 12:17:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 0612Devil:


I’m amazed by the number of Putin knob slobberers on this site.

You would think there would be less support for one of our two near peer enemies.
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Originally Posted By Dagoth-Ur:


lol, don’t start a fight you can’t win fucko!


I’m amazed by the number of Putin knob slobberers on this site.

You would think there would be less support for one of our two near peer enemies.


Russia ceased to be an enemy, after the fall of Communism.  It was called Perestroika.  Did you ever learn about this in school?  
Link Posted: 3/11/2024 12:18:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dagoth-Ur:


Cut all foreign aid, and welfare for illegals, 500 Billion saved a year!

I would think securing our border is a more righteous cause.

We aren’t the most powerful, or wealthy, or free anymore,  this idea of American invincibility has enabled really stupid, and frankly evil people to hijack this country and run the ship of state aground appease nitwits, fuckups, idiots, and invaders, ie the people who were rightfully excluded from voting for good reason.
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Originally Posted By USMCTanker:


We can cut back on wasteful domestic spending designed to buy votes for unworthy, sleazy politicians and still afford to assist the Ukrainians in the righteous cause of killing of more murderous Russian invaders.  It’ll be great!

That’s the beauty of being the most powerful country in the world; we can do all sorts of things concurrently if we just have the right elected officials.


Cut all foreign aid, and welfare for illegals, 500 Billion saved a year!

I would think securing our border is a more righteous cause.

We aren’t the most powerful, or wealthy, or free anymore,  this idea of American invincibility has enabled really stupid, and frankly evil people to hijack this country and run the ship of state aground appease nitwits, fuckups, idiots, and invaders, ie the people who were rightfully excluded from voting for good reason.


We?  Lol.

Securing the border is most definitely a priority Comrade, but the border can be secured and Russian expansionism contained concurrently.  It’s not an “either/or” choice, despite Russian talking points to the contrary.  

Militarily, we are still the most powerful nation on Earth, which the Russians have once again had to come to terms with since invading yet another sovereign nation.  We can leverage technology in ways your countrymen can only dream of.  We can still project power around the globe, even if our capabilities aren’t at their peak due to diminished budgets.  I was reminded of that yesterday in fact, when gazing upon rows and rows of operational fith generation F-35s that are both affordable to western nations and far more advanced than anything Russia or China can hope to produce at the moment.

Oh, and our shit is constantly tested, maintained, and actually works.  We don’t have to be best.  We just have to be better than our adversaries.

Things aren’t all unicorns and rainbows in a divided America right now and quite frankly, I’m disgusted with the trajectory of our country as are others here, but we’re also not so desperate as to send convicts from the prisons as cannon fodder to war because we lack a professional army to fight with.  Biden is a bumbling moron but unlike Putin, we can get rid of his ass at election time and he isn’t President For Life unlike your pal Vlad.  

Despite all your predictable talking points, life in America doesn’t suck as much as people like you would have us believe.  You like to exploit divisions and uncertainty, but we’ll recover much faster than you will after Vlad gets done stepping on you like a doormat to maintain his personal wealth and power.  For us? The pendulum swings back.  For you?  Meet the new boss; same as the old boss.
Link Posted: 3/11/2024 12:20:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher15:
GD would simp for Pol Pot if it went against 'them damn Democrat commies!"
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:

You got that right. Half of GD would simping for Hitler. Maybe two-thirds. Buncha slack-jawed faggots in here.
GD would simp for Pol Pot if it went against 'them damn Democrat commies!"


Now that is ridiculous.  Pol Pot killed how many million dissidents?  



How many political prisoners did the Democrats in America take after Jan 6?  I mean, Political Prisoners is a thick fat red line, and the Democrats ran right past it over the last three years.
Link Posted: 3/11/2024 12:24:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By KELBEAST:


Is that you, Obama?
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Originally Posted By Dagoth-Ur:


Why are they are enemy again? It’s not 1986 dude, Cold War is over, Neo cons and Neoliberals just need a new boogeyman to draw attention away from their tyrannical regime and their policies/actions and their harmful results.


Is that you, Obama?


Obama only talked about how "the Cold War is over, it's not 1986 anymore dude" in that debate, as a smokescreen to conceal his agenda to destabilize and destroy Russia if they didn't get on board and take their (back -  way in the back) seat on the Global Government train.
Link Posted: 3/11/2024 12:29:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dagoth-Ur:


Why are they are enemy again? It’s not 1986 dude, Cold War is over, Neo cons and Neoliberals just need a new boogeyman to draw attention away from their tyrannical regime and their policies/actions and their harmful results.
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Originally Posted By Dagoth-Ur:
Originally Posted By 0612Devil:


I’m amazed by the number of Putin knob slobberers on this site.

You would think there would be less support for one of our two near peer enemies.


Why are they are enemy again? It’s not 1986 dude, Cold War is over, Neo cons and Neoliberals just need a new boogeyman to draw attention away from their tyrannical regime and their policies/actions and their harmful results.

Russia is a world superpower that could destroy the USA if not kept in check. After they struggle mightily to beat up their retarded step brother of course.
Link Posted: 3/11/2024 12:30:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cypher15:
GD would simp for Pol Pot if it went against 'them damn Democrat commies!"
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Originally Posted By Cypher15:
Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:

You got that right. Half of GD would simping for Hitler. Maybe two-thirds. Buncha slack-jawed faggots in here.
GD would simp for Pol Pot if it went against 'them damn Democrat commies!"

Dag managed to simp for the WW-II Germans And Japanese, in the very thread.    Also simped for the WW-I Germans too, for good measure.  

Can you Get any more contrarian than that?    Aside from Britain, which is even moar evil than we are,  America has never had an enemy he wouldn’t sympathize with.  Just ask him.
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