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Link Posted: 3/1/2024 5:29:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LittlePony:


Who did you have make the wheels? We have some Amish here that still make them
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Those are original wheels, re-tightened/swelled
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 5:30:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By chicken_rider:

I know it’s been some time but I assume you ran some of the dead horse hill races ?
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We ran lots of hill climbs in New England with various cars
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 5:33:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By only1asterisk:
Since this is now a Stutzmech thread:

I'm looking to put together a cyclekart with my students.  Cyclekarts are basically a go-kart with motorcycle wheels and made to resemble prewar racecars.

Bentley 3 liters, Bugatti Type 35, Alfa P3's are typical but people do crazy things like Auto Union Type C's.

I'm looking for an inspiration car that will translate well and have body work that is appropriate to the basic skill level.


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Personally I like the “big” car or dirt track us style cars of the late 20s early 30s, lots of examples and different styles that are a little different from just a bug or euro styles
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 7:20:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Stutzmech:

Personally I like the “big” car or dirt track us style cars of the late 20s early 30s, lots of examples and different styles that are a little different from just a bug or euro styles
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I have looked at doing a Buick Shaffer 8, but with a hard limit of 72" of wheelbase, it is all out of proportion.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 9:48:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By only1asterisk:


I have looked at doing a Buick Shaffer 8, but with a hard limit of 72" of wheelbase, it is all out of proportion.
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Link Posted: 3/1/2024 10:03:31 PM EDT
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I know it's blasphemy to say it, but this thing screams prostreet with a supercharged LS
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Link Posted: 3/1/2024 10:07:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ricko1:
I know it's blasphemy to say it, but this thing screams prostreet with a supercharged LS
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/164452/IMG_0255-2954806_jpg-3146446.JPG


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All stock stutz with a supercharger as well, worked on that one a lot, it came out of the AK miller auction, interesting pressurized carb system that lets you turn the supercharger on and off at will, fun thing is that car is hard to drive as the drivers view is very poor, I know a lot about that car
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 10:10:34 PM EDT
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AK Miller was the man for turbo knowledge for years when I was young.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 10:14:47 PM EDT
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I want a model T or model A, badly. Once this house gets fixed up then hopefully I can snag one in a few years. The model A seems like it's a much more refined, easier to drive car, but man, the utilitarianism of the T is awesome.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 10:15:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By whiskerz:
AK Miller was the man for turbo knowledge for years when I was young.
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He had a huge stutz parts collection that was sold off years ago, there is still rumored to be a gold hoard still buried somewhere on his old property
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 10:17:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Going_Commando:
I want a model T or model A, badly. Once this house gets fixed up then hopefully I can snag one in a few years. The model A seems like it's a much more refined, easier to drive car, but man, the utilitarianism of the T is awesome.
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A or b is the one to get, the t is a bit cantankerous, prices are pretty cheap on fords
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 10:30:25 PM EDT
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Here’s some more pics of that supercharged 29 model m stutz
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 10:34:28 PM EDT
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Cool stuff Stutz. Thanks for sharing
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 10:55:08 PM EDT
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That's is an absolutely gorgeous kart and nothing we do will be as phenomenally well made.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 10:58:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By only1asterisk:


That's is an absolutely gorgeous kart and nothing we we do will be as phenomenally well made.
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You can only get better by trying
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 11:01:18 PM EDT
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Stutzmech is a cool dude.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 11:04:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lug1:
Stutzmech is a cool dude.
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Well thank you lug
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 11:13:44 PM EDT
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I vote for more photos.  I visited the Alfa Romeo museum in Milan last December and have a ton of photos I should post.

Fort anyone traveling to Milan, paying extra for the tour of the private collection (basically just where they store the cars that are not on display) is time and money well spent.  We spent six hours at the museum, and my wife wasn't bored.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 11:16:52 PM EDT
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Tagged for more Stutzmech awesomeness
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 11:27:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SnowPossum:
Tagged for more Stutzmech awesomeness
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Likewise.
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 11:32:54 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/1/2024 11:43:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bigtwin:

Such a good looking elegant car!
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Pain to drive, it’s kinda like driving a chop top rod, looks over function
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 11:46:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Stutzmech:

I posted a lot of threads years ago here, I still want to do threads here but sometimes the crowds not in the mood, lot of old guys here that have led interesting lives/story’s that probably would post if asked
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Originally Posted By Stutzmech:
Originally Posted By Macker13:
Some really great race cars in those pics, obviously Stutzmech should post more.

I posted a lot of threads years ago here, I still want to do threads here but sometimes the crowds not in the mood, lot of old guys here that have led interesting lives/story’s that probably would post if asked


Please know that there are lots of people who like those types of thread who may not post

Also, am I crazy or did you use to be in Texas?
Link Posted: 3/1/2024 11:50:22 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/1/2024 11:53:32 PM EDT
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Here’s a pic of that 29 supercharged stutz at ak millers auction before restoration
Link Posted: 3/2/2024 12:46:44 AM EDT
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Always enjoy your posts stutz. Love seeing all the beautiful old cars you work on.
Link Posted: 3/2/2024 12:51:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Stutzmech:

Pain to drive, it’s kinda like driving a chop top rod, looks over function
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Originally Posted By Stutzmech:
Originally Posted By Bigtwin:

Such a good looking elegant car!

Pain to drive, it’s kinda like driving a chop top rod, looks over function

So be it!

But sometimes you just have to! You already know that though.
Link Posted: 3/2/2024 1:15:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Stutzmech:

You can only get better by trying
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That's what I told my wife about our kids.
Link Posted: 3/2/2024 1:54:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Stutzmech:
I’m around, just don’t log in much, arfcoms not into my type of cars much
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Pardon what WHO?








I'm more at home with the newer stuff, but if DPCD from the mid 20s to the late 30s were to drop in my lap, I absolutely wouldn't say no.

Me being utterly broke and some of the older cars having trouble with interstate speeds is the only practical reason I wouldn't take one.

I would want a hardtop with full glass and locking doors.

I could seriously drive one of these:



ETA: I'd love to get out to something like amelia island.

Or the festival at goodwood.

Their YT channel is absolutely not to be missed.

https://www.youtube.com/GoodwoodRRC/videos

It's good to have some dreams, as long as they don't become obsessions.
Link Posted: 3/2/2024 3:23:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SnowPossum:
Tagged for more Stutzmech awesomeness
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Link Posted: 3/2/2024 10:16:05 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/2/2024 10:54:35 AM EDT
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also to the pipe making prosses, i believe the likes of most early cars Pipe or "space-frame in a way kinda sorta" were made by Comenius Whitehouse but weld process which explains the seems on the likes of Early benz cars, though on slightly later cars like Packards, RRs and Locos they are ground smooth, seamless pipes came about in 1888 but looks like they really come available easily until 1900 so perhaps the no cost spared makes got a hold of them or not i could not say, so much of this early history is lost as far as how they acquired resources to build their cars.

i find it amusing though that in the case of Locomobile, who often used Tiffany, back when that meant something, has still to this day complete records of the work they did for them supplying parts while i cant find what kind of alloy they used for their engine blocks, at least digitally.
Link Posted: 3/2/2024 11:20:10 AM EDT
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Love the older cars! Is there anyone here that was able to see the Bill Harrah collection in Sparks, NV before the Holiday Corp sold it off? It was amazing. Some of it still exists in the new museum in Reno. Shadow of it's former self but still worth seeing.  
Link Posted: 3/2/2024 2:31:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LittlePony:
also to the pipe making prosses, i believe the likes of most early cars Pipe or "space-frame in a way kinda sorta" were made by Comenius Whitehouse but weld process which explains the seems on the likes of Early benz cars, though on slightly later cars like Packards, RRs and Locos they are ground smooth, seamless pipes came about in 1888 but looks like they really come available easily until 1900 so perhaps the no cost spared makes got a hold of them or not i could not say, so much of this early history is lost as far as how they acquired resources to build their cars.

i find it amusing though that in the case of Locomobile, who often used Tiffany, back when that meant something, has still to this day complete records of the work they did for them supplying parts while i cant find what kind of alloy they used for their engine blocks, at least digitally.
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A lot had to do with the aircraft and bicycle/ motor cycle frame construction, easy and light construction method ,.but simplicity of useing machinery to press and bend flat sheet kinda took over when weight became less of an issue.
As far as alloys being used the casting companies probably didn’t like releasing proprietary formulas/ processes of there product for obvious reasons, was interesting that so many engine blocks from 1900 to early 20s were some type of aluminum alloy, then they started useing much more cast iron in the mid 20s, part of it was incorporating the cylinders into the block with detachable heads and opening up the top end instead of sealed combustion chambers with no head gaskets
Link Posted: 3/2/2024 3:53:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Stutzmech:

He had a huge stutz parts collection that was sold off years ago, there is still rumored to be a gold hoard still buried somewhere on his old property
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That was a different AK Miller
Link Posted: 3/2/2024 4:26:05 PM EDT
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That was a different AK Miller
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I’m thinking of the one in Vermont , not the hot rod one
Link Posted: 3/3/2024 3:33:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Stutzmech:

I’m thinking of the one in Vermont , not the hot rod one
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Originally Posted By Stutzmech:
Originally Posted By whiskerz:



That was a different AK Miller

I’m thinking of the one in Vermont , not the hot rod one


Just a couple days ago I was cleaning out some old boxes of stuff from when I moved and ran across the catalog from his auction.  Man, did he have some killer stuff hoarded away.  I'd forgotten just how much killer stuff he had.
Link Posted: 3/3/2024 4:01:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dlshady:


Just a couple days ago I was cleaning out some old boxes of stuff from when I moved and ran across the catalog from his auction.  Man, did he have some killer stuff hoarded away.  I'd forgotten just how much killer stuff he had.
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Ya, amazing how many spare parts/ cars are still floating around, still a lot of guys that have large stashes of certain makes of cars, some parts are quite valuable if you know what your looking for, even some old junkyards have stuff I see every now and then
ETA… a couple of old carbs went for 20,000
Link Posted: 3/3/2024 4:30:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Stutzmech:

Ya, amazing how many spare parts/ cars are still floating around, still a lot of guys that have large stashes of certain makes of cars, some parts are quite valuable if you know what your looking for, even some old junkyards have stuff I see every now and then
ETA… a couple of old carbs went for 20,000
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20k for a pair of carbs?!?!?!

something something pants on head something on fire something retarded ... WOW.

For that price, someone needs to start making repops!
Link Posted: 3/3/2024 4:41:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k:

20k for a pair of carbs?!?!?!

something something pants on head something on fire something retarded ... WOW.

For that price, someone needs to start making repops!
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thats typical in that world.
Link Posted: 3/3/2024 4:50:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k:

20k for a pair of carbs?!?!?!

something something pants on head something on fire something retarded ... WOW.

For that price, someone needs to start making repops!
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Very low demand and very high tooling costs
ETA… if you see one of these anywhere, 1 to 2 thousand for them
Link Posted: 3/8/2024 6:48:39 PM EDT
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Bump for more vintage goodness
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 3:24:13 PM EDT
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drool

1925 Packard Straight 8 Moss Special Engine Idling
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 3:34:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LittlePony:
drool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0HqlCdUJKw
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That’s a nice sounding 8, here’s some pics of the engine, very nice street and vintage racer

ETA….heres a pic of a stock engine
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 3:44:01 PM EDT
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Here’s a stutz version
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 3:51:50 PM EDT
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@Stutzmech


I would be very interested in you posting…a lot.  



Link Posted: 3/10/2024 3:53:55 PM EDT
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@Stutzmech


I would be very interested in you posting…a lot.  



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I always try and answer and did post a lot in the past, just start any old vintage car thread and I’ll show up
Link Posted: 3/10/2024 6:53:04 PM EDT
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I loves me some pre-war cars.     It is a sobering thought to remember how many varied manufacturers there were in the U.S.A. prior to the World Wars.
It makes you wonder what different approaches to design would have been possible if we hadn't been narrowed down to the 6 or 8 domestic manufacturers after WWII.  
Link Posted: 3/11/2024 1:46:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SC4eyes:
I loves me some pre-war cars.     It is a sobering thought to remember how many varied manufacturers there were in the U.S.A. prior to the World Wars.
It makes you wonder what different approaches to design would have been possible if we hadn't been narrowed down to the 6 or 8 domestic manufacturers after WWII.  
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The stock crash and the subsequent buyouts of car manufacturers killed off a lot of innovation and set back cars by many years, wasn’t till the 50s that development took off again IMO
Link Posted: 3/11/2024 1:59:37 PM EDT
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Stutzmech isn’t allowed to die.

He’s cool even when he’s dumb enough to disagree with me.
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