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Link Posted: 6/8/2023 5:04:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HKG3S] [#1]
I am sure they will have millions of visitors this year….but will they make more money than they pay out is the question.  Electricity to run the parks takes money.   Fuel and maintenance of the cruise ships, plus keeping Disney plus in business.  Will they close, doubtful.  Will they have to slim down and sell of some of their assets and get out of some businesses, perhaps.   I know there are believers and people flock there at $100 per day per person, but what will the market bear for ticket prices?

Shareholder start bailing on a large scale, shareholder start suing and things tend to get spicy.
Link Posted: 6/9/2023 10:26:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FlashMan-7k] [#2]
um ...

OUCH.

INDIANA JONES 5 Box Office Tracking COLLAPSES | Dial Of Destiny DISASTER



Article discussed in the video:
https://deadline.com/2023/06/indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny-box-office-projection-1235412010/
‘Indiana Jones And The Dial Of Destiny’ To Ring Up Around $60M Opening: Here’s Why – Early Box Office Outlook

By Anthony D'Alessandro
Anthony D'Alessandro

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June 8, 2023 9:48am

In the wake of world premiering in Cannes to lackluster film reviews at 50% Rotten, Disney/Lucasfilm’s Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny is currently looking at a $60M+ domestic opening.

The movie opens on June 30 heading into what is conceivably a five-day play period given that Independence Day falls on a Tuesday.

Dial of Destiny‘s 3-day is down from the $100.1M 3-day of the last movie, 2008’s Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull — and this latest sequel reps the finale for the entire franchise. Crystal Skull opened on a Thursday over a Memorial Day weekend earning in total over five days, $151.9M. Logan filmmaker James Mangold took over helming the finale from franchise architect Steven Spielberg. Currently, Dial of Destiny is tracking significantly with older guys over younger, which has many comping he pic to the Daniel Craig 007 finale, No Time to Die ($55.2M) and 2018’s Mission: Impossible – Fallout ($61.2M).

Some are saying a $70M start for Dial of Destiny — that’s quite a stretch. Realize that Lionsgate’s John Wick: Chapter 4 opened to $73.8M with double the tracking metrics that Dial of Destiny is showing here.

Disney will need to pick up the slack in the coming weeks in their marketing to get more interest from younger guys, their distraction now being Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse in theaters and the upcoming Warner Bros DC The Flash on June 16. However, that hard word of mouth out of Cannes is quite the hurdle. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, which wasn’t beloved by many, settled at 77% certified fresh and a B CinemaScore versus the previous 1989 installment, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, which earned 84% certified fresh from critics and a solid A CinemaScore.

With Dial of Destiny at a $60M 3-day, that’s easily the second-best start for the Indiana Jones franchise. In the box office era, Last Crusade opened to $29.3M 3-day ($46.9M over extended Memorial Day weekend) at 2,327 theaters. 1984’s Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom bowed to $25.3M 3-day ($42.2M extended Memorial Day weekend) at 1,687 theaters. 1981’s Raiders of the Lost Ark‘s gross trajectory harkens back to the way blockbusters were made over a year: The pic opened to $8.3M at 1,078 theaters and by January 1982 earned $179.6M with an initial cume of $212.2M, lifetime gross of $248.1M.
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This is on a movie that admits 300m budget. They could have 500m total invested when adverts are factored in.

They would need 600m - 1,000m to BREAK EVEN on that budget with box offfice ticket sales (and china reportedly returns only 25% or so on box office tickets)

I have seen people saying disney only has around 200m in available cash (or liquid assets? Forget which) right now. Searching for the link to that, haven't been able to find it.
Link Posted: 6/10/2023 11:08:00 PM EDT
[#3]
Well, comcast isn't defraying the cost of hulu operations for disney anymore:

https://thedesk.net/2023/05/comcast-stops-funding-hulu-disney-fight/
Comcast stops funding Hulu as fight with Disney escalates

The two sides are likely to bring their issue before an arbitrator next year as Disney looks to buy Comcast's 33 percent stake in the streamer.
By: Matthew KeysThursday, May 25, 2023

Comcast’s NBC Universal has stopped providing financial backing to general entertainment streamer Hulu as the company works with the Walt Disney Company on a potential acquisition of the cable giant’s minority stake.

The two sides have until early 2024 to find common ground on the valuation of Hulu as part of a broader transaction that would see Disney acquiring full control of the service from Comcast.

Disney and NBC Universal were two of the three media brands who launched Hulu as a joint venture in 2007, years before streaming overtook cable to become the dominant platform for television. Both companies owned an equal 30 percent stake, with 21st Century Fox (now Fox Corporation) holding another 30 percent, and a rotating group of minority investors owning the last 10 percent.

In early 2019, Disney bought Fox’s stake in Hulu as part of a broader asset purchase. The remaining 10 percent not owned by Disney or Comcast was split between the two companies after WarnerMedia exited the venture.

Both sides have been working for years to settle on a long-term plan for Hulu, which will almost certainly end with Disney acquiring Comcast’s 33 percent stake in the venture next year. One area of contention is how much that 33 percent stake is worth — as Hulu becomes more successful, Disney reaps most of the rewards, but the valuation increases accordingly for Comcast’s stake, and that raises the potential acquisition price. (Some estimates put the potential valuation as high as $27.5 billion.)

Disney and Comcast compete in other areas — both have standalone streaming services for some of their own content (Disney Plus and Peacock) — and Hulu has been viewed as something of a stepchild for both companies, who have struggled for years with how to reap the financial benefits of the venture without giving the other side a leg up.

Last year, Comcast drew the first blow when it decided to pull its top-tier NBC content from Hulu and move shows like “The Office” and “Parks & Recreation” to Peacock exclusively. The move helped spur interest in Peacock, but it didn’t necessarily come at a detriment to Hulu; Disney responded by incorporating more television shows from FX and Freeform into the service, and inking separate licensing agreements with competitors like Warner Bros Discovery (WBD) for classic sitcoms and dramas. The end result is that Hulu’s subscriber growth, while stagnant compared to its peers, didn’t move in the other direction.

On Thursday, the Wall Street Journal revealed for the first time that Disney and Comcast have brought their issue before an arbitrator, who may ultimately wind up deciding how much Hulu is worth if both sides can’t settle on a number by early next year. The Journal’s report also said that Comcast had stopped funding Hulu, citing unnamed people who were purportedly familiar with the company’s finances; Disney has stepped in to cover the bills, the Journal said.

Earlier this month, Disney said it will introduce a new streaming option that marries the content libraries of Hulu with its family-friendly Disney Plus by the end of the year. The so-called “super app” will allow streamers to watch shows from ABC, FX, Freeform and Fox alongside classic and current Disney films in one place, without having to switch services.
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And the disney having only about 200M cash on hand claim:

Comcast WRECKS Disney in SECRET Hulu Move...This May BREAK Mickey


And the specific time is 6:40 in ... link to directly that bit of the video: https://youtu.be/lm8qh_m4Czk?t=400

This will be going against a ~9 billion dollar minimum bill they're gong to be stuck with shortly when comcast uses their option to force disney to buy their share of that service.
Link Posted: 6/16/2023 2:23:58 PM EDT
[#4]
https://www.wesh.com/article/disney-chief-financial-officer-steps-down/44214087

Disney's chief financial officer stepping down
WESH logo Updated: 10:57 PM EDT Jun 15, 2023
Deanna Williamson
Digital Producer

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Disney announced that Christine McCarthy, the company's chief financial officer and senior executive vice president, has made the decision to step down.

A statement from Disney said McCarthy is "taking a family medical leave of absence."

Beginning July 1, the CFO and executive vice president of Disney parks, experiences and products, Kevin Lansberry, will begin as the interim CFO for the company, according to Disney.

"McCarthy will continue as a strategic advisor to the company during her leave and will assist with the process of identifying and onboarding a long-term successor to ensure a smooth and successful transition," Disney said in a statement.
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She's had cancer twice.  From what I'm hearing, the step down is at least partially health issues, and it may be cancer again.

And she's been one of the architects of what's messed up over at disney.

Screw cancer, if that's what it is, hope she recovers ... AND ... well, what she was responsible for was wrong, and it's another bad sign for the mouse.
Link Posted: 6/16/2023 2:54:48 PM EDT
[#5]
TLDR

I don't care enough to bother.  I read enough to get the gist.
Link Posted: 6/16/2023 2:55:23 PM EDT
[#6]
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Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k:
um ...

OUCH.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YqJ1PhwW0E


Article discussed in the video:
https://deadline.com/2023/06/indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny-box-office-projection-1235412010/


This is on a movie that admits 300m budget. They could have 500m total invested when adverts are factored in.

They would need 600m - 1,000m to BREAK EVEN on that budget with box offfice ticket sales (and china reportedly returns only 25% or so on box office tickets)

I have seen people saying disney only has around 200m in available cash (or liquid assets? Forget which) right now. Searching for the link to that, haven't been able to find it.
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Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k:
um ...

OUCH.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YqJ1PhwW0E


Article discussed in the video:
https://deadline.com/2023/06/indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny-box-office-projection-1235412010/
‘Indiana Jones And The Dial Of Destiny’ To Ring Up Around $60M Opening: Here’s Why – Early Box Office Outlook

By Anthony D'Alessandro
Anthony D'Alessandro

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June 8, 2023 9:48am

In the wake of world premiering in Cannes to lackluster film reviews at 50% Rotten, Disney/Lucasfilm’s Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny is currently looking at a $60M+ domestic opening.

The movie opens on June 30 heading into what is conceivably a five-day play period given that Independence Day falls on a Tuesday.

Dial of Destiny‘s 3-day is down from the $100.1M 3-day of the last movie, 2008’s Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull — and this latest sequel reps the finale for the entire franchise. Crystal Skull opened on a Thursday over a Memorial Day weekend earning in total over five days, $151.9M. Logan filmmaker James Mangold took over helming the finale from franchise architect Steven Spielberg. Currently, Dial of Destiny is tracking significantly with older guys over younger, which has many comping he pic to the Daniel Craig 007 finale, No Time to Die ($55.2M) and 2018’s Mission: Impossible – Fallout ($61.2M).

Some are saying a $70M start for Dial of Destiny — that’s quite a stretch. Realize that Lionsgate’s John Wick: Chapter 4 opened to $73.8M with double the tracking metrics that Dial of Destiny is showing here.

Disney will need to pick up the slack in the coming weeks in their marketing to get more interest from younger guys, their distraction now being Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse in theaters and the upcoming Warner Bros DC The Flash on June 16. However, that hard word of mouth out of Cannes is quite the hurdle. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, which wasn’t beloved by many, settled at 77% certified fresh and a B CinemaScore versus the previous 1989 installment, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, which earned 84% certified fresh from critics and a solid A CinemaScore.

With Dial of Destiny at a $60M 3-day, that’s easily the second-best start for the Indiana Jones franchise. In the box office era, Last Crusade opened to $29.3M 3-day ($46.9M over extended Memorial Day weekend) at 2,327 theaters. 1984’s Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom bowed to $25.3M 3-day ($42.2M extended Memorial Day weekend) at 1,687 theaters. 1981’s Raiders of the Lost Ark‘s gross trajectory harkens back to the way blockbusters were made over a year: The pic opened to $8.3M at 1,078 theaters and by January 1982 earned $179.6M with an initial cume of $212.2M, lifetime gross of $248.1M.


This is on a movie that admits 300m budget. They could have 500m total invested when adverts are factored in.

They would need 600m - 1,000m to BREAK EVEN on that budget with box offfice ticket sales (and china reportedly returns only 25% or so on box office tickets)

I have seen people saying disney only has around 200m in available cash (or liquid assets? Forget which) right now. Searching for the link to that, haven't been able to find it.


They need to call in Kathleen Kennedy.  She'll fix this asap!

Link Posted: 6/16/2023 3:18:46 PM EDT
[#7]
It's a Woke World After All

This needs to be posted again and again in these threads. "It's a woke world after all"
Link Posted: 6/21/2023 3:15:28 PM EDT
[#8]
6-21

Disney DEI Chief OUT: The Head of Reimagine Tomorrow Follows Christine McCarthy in Hasty Exit!


Disney fires their head DEI inquisitor

This is the lady that was responsible for reimagine tomorrow, that racist crap they have been using in their company.


https://web.archive.org/web/20210508011854/https://christopherrufo.com/the-wokest-place-on-earth/
In another module, called “What Can I Do About Racism?,” Disney tells employees that they should reject “equality,” with a focus on “equal treatment and access to opportunities,” and instead strive for “equity,” with a focus on “the equality of outcome.” The training also includes a series of lessons on “implicit biases,” “microaggressions,” and “becoming an antiracist.” The company tells employees that they must “reflect” on America’s “racist infrastructure” and “think carefully about whether or not your wealth, income, treatment by the criminal justice system, employment, access to housing, health care, political power, and education might be different if you were of a different race.” 


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Link Posted: 6/21/2023 3:17:33 PM EDT
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Also, park attendance has collapsed:

Disney World Crowds COLLAPSE in Summer of 2023: Universal Studios May Just Take Top Spot Next Year!


I believe I even saw some of the disney fairy duster crews reporting on the attendance collapse.

When you see wait times during peak hours for space mountain at a half an hour ...
Link Posted: 6/27/2023 6:48:59 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/1/2023 6:59:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FlashMan-7k] [#11]
Disney Is Bleeding Out At The Box Office | Here's How Much They've LOST


Yes, that's right. 890 million *loss* over the last ~8 movies.  This is using published numbers which are liable to be tweaked in disney's favor.

Disney Downgraded As Wall Street Worries

From the vid:
"We prefer to step aside, acknowledging meaningful uncertainty, and wait for further catalysts, as buying the dip has been a losing trade"

... ouch.

Here's the article:

https://seekingalpha.com/news/3984060-walt-disney-slips-keybanc-downgrades-sector-weight
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 7:09:51 PM EDT
[#12]
everything that has a beginning...
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 7:13:32 PM EDT
[#13]
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I’m excited at the prospect of their demise.
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Thats the whole point.  The demise of Disney that once stood for family values and american virtue.  Degenerating Disney into child porn and smut denigrates the Disney name and leads to its destruction.  A win win for the progressives.  We lose    AGAIN
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 7:14:54 PM EDT
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They'll be fine.

Nothing will happen.
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Nope.  Since going tranny AB lost 26% of its market share and the rat should suffer similiarly.  While the public has lost control of the ballot box and we have [S]elections, not elections, we still have the power of the purse.  We can still strangle the beast especially if they push CBDC.  They will be so vulnerable if we don't accept their fake fiat currency.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 7:15:39 PM EDT
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Sooner or later I think there will be a share holder lawsuit with them.
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Already to late.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 7:15:50 PM EDT
[#16]
4th quarter 2022 numbers are published: Disney revenues for the quarter and year grew 9% and 23%, respectively.

Disney cash on hand for the quarter ending March 31, 2023 was $10,399,000,000.00.

The loss of the $890,000,000 is a loss of 8.5% of their operating cash.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 7:35:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Paul:
4th quarter 2022 numbers are published: Disney revenues for the quarter and year grew 9% and 23%, respectively.

Disney cash on hand for the quarter ending March 31, 2023 was $10,399,000,000.00.

The loss of the $890,000,000 is a loss of 8.5% of their operating cash.
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Hard to kill the rat.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 9:16:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Paul:
4th quarter 2022 numbers are published: Disney revenues for the quarter and year grew 9% and 23%, respectively.

Disney cash on hand for the quarter ending March 31, 2023 was $10,399,000,000.00.

The loss of the $890,000,000 is a loss of 8.5% of their operating cash.
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Reportedly their operating cash level is about 200,000,000 or so  ... if by cash, you mean ... what do they have on hand to spend at the moment.



ETA:

https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Disney-going-to-get-it-s-financial-teeth-knocked-out-7-1-890Mn-loss-and-Analyist-disses-DIS-stock-/5-2649974/?page=3#i104457733

I am a math-idiot and etc. Just going what notions I can get from sources like that and what I've heard was said by an accountant who reportedly dug into the financials to sort it.
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 12:08:51 AM EDT
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7-6
Disney DESTROYED by Equity in New Lawsuit. Hilarious Self OWN


https://deadline.com/2023/06/disney-discrimination-lawsuit-pay-equity-class-action-bob-iger-1235427415/
Disney Faces Dramatic Escalation In $150M+ Gender Discrimination & Pay Equity Suit

By Dominic Patten
June 30, 2023 12:38pm

Only as a class can the women at Disney address wage gaps and receive effective injunctive and monetary remedies. Injunctive relief to address systematic disparities is unattainable through individual actions as the scope of relief would be limited to the scope of the violation shown, and an individual plaintiff would not obtain the breadth of discovery of a class. And many class members are unlikely to bring individual actions.
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Getting devoured by their own. Best part: it's a disparite impact lawsuit. ROFL!
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 2:07:47 AM EDT
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinereid/2023/07/01/disney-reveals-doctor-strange-2-cost-100-million-more-than-its-estimated-budget/

Disney Reveals Doctor Strange 2 Cost $100 Million More Than Its Estimated Budget
Caroline Reid
Contributor
I cover the entertainment industry focusing on movies and theme parks.
Jul 1, 2023,10:28am EDT

Disney has revealed that last year's blockbuster Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness cost $94.5 million more to make than the movie's $200 million estimated production budget.

The sequel to 2016's Doctor Strange stars Benedict Cumberbatch as the eponymous wizard who travels through different dimensions to stop Elizabeth Olsen’s Scarlet Witch from catching a young girl with magical powers.

As we have reported, the movie was filmed in the United Kingdom and this shines a spotlight on its spending. Movies made in the UK are eligible for a cash reimbursement of up to 25% of the amount they spend there provided that it represents at least 10% of the total cost of the picture.

In order to demonstrate this, studios set up separate UK companies to make each movie and they are required to file publicly-available financial statements.

The companies have code names to stop them from raising attention when they apply for permits to film on location. Doctor Strange 2 was made by Supreme Works Productions 2 in a nod to the status of Cumberbatch's Marvel Comics character as the Sorcerer Supreme.

As with all UK companies, its financial statements are released in stages long after the period they relate to. The latest set was released earlier this week and covers the year to May 8, 2022 which was two days after Doctor Strange 2 was released. During the year, $135.3 million (£106.5 million) was spent on making the movie with the majority of it going on post-production. When this is combined with the $213.7 million that had already been incurred during pre-production and filming it gives the movie total costs of $349 million.

It was reimbursed a total of $54.5 million (£42.9 million) bringing the net production cost of the picture to $294.5 million. As this covers the period up to the movie's release, the costs are not expected to increase significantly in future financial statements. The total was $94.5 million more than the estimates of the production cost from Variety and Deadline which were reported by outlets such as USA Today and IGN IGN .

The UK government's regulations state that there is "no requirement" for the spending shown in the financial statements to include marketing costs and there is no indication that they do. In fact, it seems highly unlikely as studios' marketing teams promote multiple movies at the same time so their salaries could not be allocated to individual films. This view is endorsed by the financial statements as they clearly describe the business as being "involved in the production of a film". Accordingly, they should show the production costs with the marketing spend incurred separately by the studio.

There is no doubt that the movie cost more to make than even Disney expected and there is good reason for this. The latest financial statements reveal that the "cost was forecasted to be over the production budget due to the impact of COVID-19". It is unclear whether this corresponds precisely to the difference between the estimates and the actual spending but it is likely that it accounted for at least part of it as the cost over-run was so unexpected and even studios found it difficult to forecast how much would be required. Doctor Strange 2 was particularly badly hit due to its timing.

The movie was originally due to be released in May 2021 but was delayed by a year as the coronavirus pandemic temporarily brought the curtain down the production. It resumed in August 2020 but didn't last for long.

In January 2021 Olsen told Jimmy Kimmel Live that production had stopped due to a rise in COVID-19 cases in the UK. "Since the hospitals are overwhelmed here we can't go back to work until that calms down," she said. It was such a problem that Marvel claimed $1.5 million (£1.2 million) of furlough grants from the UK government in connection with the movie.

A cumulative total of $22.4 million (£17.6 million) was spent on staff with the workforce peaking at 381 people in 2021. That doesn't even include freelancers and self-employed workers who make up the majority of the crew. Likewise, it also excludes the staff of external agencies that worked on the film such as security contractors and special effects firms. Spending on these services generates economic impact in the UK which explains why the government gives generous cash reimbursements to studios.

Their biggest returns come from ticket sales as studios receive around 50% of the box office with the remainder retained by theater operators. According to industry analyst Box Office Mojo, Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness grossed $955.8 million making it the most successful of the three films Marvel released in 2022. The increased spending on post-production narrowed the movie's margins leaving it with a profit of $183.4 million.

Lightyear (pictured) and Strange World made only a combined $300m at the box office © 2021 ... [+]PIXAR

The disclosure of the higher than expected spending follows a series of box office busts for Disney and its prestigious Pixar division. Last year their animated movies Lightyear and Strange World were both branded woke and together only grossed $300 million. More recently, the live action version of classic cartoon the Little Mermaid didn’t make a big splash at the box office whilst last month's Elemental earned $29.5 million over the three days of its first weekend giving it the lowest debut of a Pixar film since Toy Story in 1995.

Disney's hopes are now pinned on the Haunted Mansion movie which is based on its classic theme park attraction and stars Owen Wilson and Danny DeVito. It will debut in late July and will be followed just over three months later by the next instalment in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Disney's 2023 hopes are now pinned on The Marvels © 2023 MARVEL.Courtesy of Marvel Studios

Called The Marvels, the sci-fi film is the sequel to 2019's Captain Marvel and stars newcomer Iman Vellani alongside Oscar-winner Brie Larson. As we revealed in April, its pre-production costs alone came to around $130 million so the stakes are high for Disney yet again. Time will tell if it can finally get a happy ending.
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@CarmelBytheSea

Wow, that's a serious "mistake" ...
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 2:10:29 AM EDT
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They will be fine. Theme parks and merchandise will always keep them afloat.
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 2:28:45 AM EDT
[#22]
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 2:57:23 PM EDT
[#23]
https://www.disneydining.com/disney-world-turns-into-a-ghost-town-bwb1/
Disney World Turns Into Ghost Town, Waits Reach Historic Lows
Posted by: Brittni Ward July 2, 2023
In a viral TikTok, One Guest is surprised by the number of people not at Disney’s Hollywood Studios. This Guest explains that the Fourth of July is two days away and a Saturday, but there were not terrible crowds. Most of the attractions at Disney’s Hollywood Studios and Magic Kingdom had low wait times. As a matter of fact, the wait times were listed at 30% less compared to last year and 2019, which is historically low.

Link Posted: 7/6/2023 3:07:15 PM EDT
[#24]
Looks like they've been down on attendance since sometime around april or may:

https://www.thrill-data.com/waits/chain/wdw/



(green is roughly 20-30 min)
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 3:14:34 PM EDT
[#25]
http://thedisinsider.com/2023/07/05/the-walt-disney-company-q3-earnings-call-set-for-august-9/

   July 5, 2023

The Walt Disney Company Q3 Earnings Call Set For August 9

   by Skyler Shuler

The Walt Disney Company has announced the official date for the release of its 3rd quarter earnings report. The report is scheduled to be made public on August 9, followed by an earnings call.

The earnings call, featuring CEO Bob Iger and other Disney executives, will be available for broadcast on the Walt Disney Company Investor Relations website at 4:30 p.m. Eastern Time. Prior to the call, the earnings report will be released shortly after the market closes for the day.

While former CFO Christine McCarthy used to accompany Iger during these presentations, she has transitioned to an advisory role. As a result, Interim CFO Andy Hopkins may join Iger in presenting the financial information. McCarthy stepped down from the position last month citing personal medical reasons. However, a report surfaced stating McCarthy was clashing with Iger and other high-level executives, Disney has yet to respond to the report and maintain they supported McCarthy decision at this time. Kevin Lansberry is the interim CFO, while Hopkins is interim CFO for Disney Parks.
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 3:37:07 PM EDT
[#26]
Sucks to be the mouse I suppose. They won't be the first, nor the last to fail on picking up what's going on around the country. Shit is getting more expensive and the middle class ain't going to Disney under thoee conditions. Couple that with dropping a ridiculous amount of money on content that the bulk of America isn't really interested in, and there you have it. They made deals with the devil and they're the only thing keeping Disney afloat
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 5:21:38 PM EDT
[#27]
The Leftists are blaming Desantis for the drop in WDW attendance. But Universal isn't seeing similar drops.
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 5:33:23 PM EDT
[#28]
Good riddance to the pesky rat.
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 6:06:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 999monkeys:

What is the word?  It’s not “grooming”.  “Grooming” means something different, unless definitions have changed.  It is done by a child predator who intends to prey on a child, not by a teacher or whoever who does not intend to prey on a child.

I’ve been wondering why so many people use the word incorrectly on here.  Particularly given that there a a number of sticklers for words having specific meaning.
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It is “grooming”. Grooming a child does not have to be predatory in nature. You could groom your child to be an astronaut, tennis player or card shark. In todays world, grooming a child is associated with teaching a child to be or accept deviant sexual behavior.
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 6:12:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JamPo:


It is “grooming”. Grooming a child does not have to be predatory in nature. You could groom your child to be an astronaut, tennis player or card shark. In todays world, grooming a child is associated with teaching a child to be or accept deviant sexual behavior.
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Originally Posted By JamPo:
Originally Posted By 999monkeys:

What is the word?  It’s not “grooming”.  “Grooming” means something different, unless definitions have changed.  It is done by a child predator who intends to prey on a child, not by a teacher or whoever who does not intend to prey on a child.

I’ve been wondering why so many people use the word incorrectly on here.  Particularly given that there a a number of sticklers for words having specific meaning.


It is “grooming”. Grooming a child does not have to be predatory in nature. You could groom your child to be an astronaut, tennis player or card shark. In todays world, grooming a child is associated with teaching a child to be or accept deviant sexual behavior.


This.
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 6:14:43 PM EDT
[#31]
Sound of Freedom is beating Disney.

Sound of Freedom BEATS Indiana Jones At Box Office SHATTERING Expectations
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 8:31:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mauser556:
Sound of Freedom is beating Disney.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylyMLGRuAso
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The irony is Disney got that movie when they bought Fox. They wouldn`t release it for 5 years. Somehow Angel One Studios and Jim Caviesel got them to sell the movie to Angel One apparently. And it`s killing Indiana Jones. This  is an intense movie about child trafficing, and it`s packing theaters. A 11:45 AM showing near me was sold out.

ETA: According to WDWpro on you tube, Sound of Freedom has already broke even.
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 9:02:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gpoman:


They will be fine. Theme parks and merchandise will always keep them afloat.
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Originally Posted By gpoman:
Originally Posted By JamPo:
I’m excited at the prospect of their demise.


They will be fine. Theme parks and merchandise will always keep them afloat.

Shit, just selling bottled water at those hellholes will keep them afloat. Ridiculous profit center for the groomers.
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 9:17:06 PM EDT
[#34]
perhaps.. perhaps.. some are awakening to the fact that a lot of the  woke bs that is being pushed is really from a tiny majority of very vocal and strident folks with chips on their shoulder. the internet in particular makes this tiny majority seem like a big scary monster. buidweiser is one example, and now disney. the majority of folks, even i suspect many on the left arent happy with all the weirdness, especially trans folks pushing trans lifestyles on kids.

maybe the pendulum is swinging back  the other way.

disney's  media stuff is 99 percent absolute dreck. even if its not woke is just plan boring blah. there is zero creativity in the trash they put out.
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 9:49:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 999monkeys:
What is the word?  It’s not “grooming”.  “Grooming” means something different, unless definitions have changed.  It is done by a child predator who intends to prey on a child, not by a teacher or whoever who does not intend to prey on a child.
I’ve been wondering why so many people use the word incorrectly on here.  Particularly given that there a a number of sticklers for words having specific meaning.
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Meanings can change over time.
'Gay' used to mean happy or carefree, what does it mean now?
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 9:57:34 PM EDT
[#36]
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Originally Posted By Paul:
4th quarter 2022 numbers are published: Disney revenues for the quarter and year grew 9% and 23%, respectively.

Disney cash on hand for the quarter ending March 31, 2023 was $10,399,000,000.00.

The loss of the $890,000,000 is a loss of 8.5% of their operating cash.
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But, but, dude bumping the shit out of this thread is saying dooooom! Not doom?
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 10:07:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gpoman:


They will be fine. Theme parks and merchandise will always keep them afloat.
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And they will write off the movie losses on their taxes.
Link Posted: 7/6/2023 10:09:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GunLvrPHD:
The Leftists are blaming Desantis for the drop in WDW attendance. But Universal isn't seeing similar drops.
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People don't like the Woke world after all.
Link Posted: 7/7/2023 1:00:59 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mauser556:
Sound of Freedom is beating Disney.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylyMLGRuAso
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Valliant renegade did a breakdown on the numbers and SOF was pulling more per-screen it showed on than indy.

In hollywood terms, I imagine that is just not supposed to happen.
Link Posted: 7/7/2023 1:02:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Aspida1776:


But, but, dude bumping the shit out of this thread is saying dooooom! Not doom?
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Originally Posted By Aspida1776:
Originally Posted By Paul:
4th quarter 2022 numbers are published: Disney revenues for the quarter and year grew 9% and 23%, respectively.

Disney cash on hand for the quarter ending March 31, 2023 was $10,399,000,000.00.

The loss of the $890,000,000 is a loss of 8.5% of their operating cash.


But, but, dude bumping the shit out of this thread is saying dooooom! Not doom?

Tell me you don't read what's posted and instead fall prey to the clickbait YT video thumbnails that should be ignored.

It's called: posting about things as they happen.

The mouse is having a no good very bad ugly time financially because they are stupidly out of touch with customers and have noxious politics that they refuse to shut up about.  

The next quarter earnings call has been scheduled, it should be interesting.
Link Posted: 7/11/2023 9:09:00 PM EDT
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https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/07/10/the-walt-disney-companys-2022-domestic-box-office-grosses-the-worst-in-over-two-decades/

The Walt Disney Company's 2022 Domestic Box Office Grosses The Worst In Over Two Decades
John F. Trent July 10, 2023 Movies

The Walt Disney Company's 2022 box office grosses are the worst the company has posted in nearly two decades. Not only are the grosses the worst in nearly two decades but just since 2019 the company has seen their grosses decline nearly 70%.

YouTuber and scooper WDW Pro says, "The Walt Disney Company has seen something like a 70% drop in the box office totals it's receiving since 2019. Now, you might blame that on the pandemic, perhaps, and say, 'We're in a post-pandemic world.' But if that's the case then why is Disney on track to drop hundreds of millions of dollars versus their 2022 box office totals."

The YouTuber went on to make his point by citing Box Office Pro's report of The Walt Disney Company's 2019 box office grosses. The outlet reported the company grossed "$13.1 billion globally across its Disney and Fox film releases in 2019."

They added "that number includes $4.3283 billion in North America and $8.8234 billion overseas."

...

Fast forward to 2022 and Box Office Pro reports The Walt Disney Company only earned $2 billion domestically and another $2.9 internationally for a global gross of $4.9 billion. That's a 62% decline from 2019.

...

Not only are grosses down, but so are ticket sales. The-Numbers notes that The Walt Disney Company sold 408,569,611 tickets in domestic theaters in 2019. In 2022, the company only sold 129,776,098 tickets. That's the lowest number of tickets sold in The-Numbers' entire tracking history that goes back to 1995. In 1995 the company sold 232,649,211 tickets.

2008 previously held the record for least tickets sold with 139,286,843.

....

Given these numbers from Deadline, WDW Pro says, "That Disney despite having $3.4 billion in revenue   Disney will struggle to top $4 billion total. In fact, I think the number they will probably arrive at is $4.2 billion. We'll see how that plays out. That's projecting a bit, but it's also reading the tea leaves and taking a look at where they have been this year and how their films have performed and playing that out with the very few releases they have left."

"Now, $4.2 billion, of course, is a decrease from where they were just last year, right? So $4.9 [billion] to $4.2 [billion] that means a $700 million drop is likely," he continued. "And when you consider that kind of a drop versus the more than $13 billion they were making in 2019, that's a 70% approximate   because we don't know exactly where this will land, but about a 70% drop overall."


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13 billion, down to 4-5 billion  ... You'd think they'd take that as a CLUE.
Link Posted: 7/11/2023 9:14:47 PM EDT
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DeSantis is Fucking Disney.  They went woke and deserve to go broke.
Link Posted: 7/11/2023 9:15:46 PM EDT
[#43]
Needs more loss
Link Posted: 7/11/2023 9:18:58 PM EDT
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DeSantis is              Disney.  They went woke and deserve to go broke.
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It's really disney that's screwing disney.

All they had to do was not attack laws saying don't sexualize elementary school kids, and make decent content, and at least kinda-sorta keep their stars from expressing hate for half the country.

They made themselves easy - and deserving - targets.
Link Posted: 7/11/2023 9:50:02 PM EDT
[#45]
Link Posted: 7/11/2023 10:01:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ken_mays:
Here’s the dark lining of the cloud.  People attend the parks and buy merchandise because they have pleasant associations with the films and other entertainment properties.  As a result, Disney has been profiting from the goodwill generated by their portfolio up until now.   As those customers age out or turn away, Disney has a rapidly shrinking base of content to hook replacement customers.  

Who’s going to spend mega bucks to take the family to Disney in 10 or 20 years because they feel nostalgic about “Togo” or “Elementals” or the other shit they’re currently churning out?  If they don’t turn it around soon, they are cutting off a huge future market.  At best the theme parks will be another Six Flags and their merchandising will dry up.
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Who's going to buy the recent lightyear movie when they haul it out of the vault for a release in 30 years ... a problem indeed.
Link Posted: 7/11/2023 10:19:45 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/15/2023 6:26:49 PM EDT
[#48]
https://archive.is/KZNno
Disney pulling back on making Marvel, Star Wars content, Iger says
Published Thu, Jul 13 20239:17 AM EDTUpdated Thu, Jul 13 20231:00 PM EDT
Lillian Rizzo
@Lilliannnn
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   Disney CEO Bob Iger said there will be a pullback in content spending and creation for the Star Wars and Marvel franchises.
   Earlier this year Disney said it would slash $5.5 billion in costs, including $3 billion in nonsports content costs.
   Iger said the explosion in Marvel TV shows in recent years "diluted focus and attention" for the brand.


Disney is slowing down when it comes to making movies and TV series for its Marvel Studios and Lucasfilm franchises, CEO Bob Iger said Thursday on CNBC.

The move comes as the company is looking to cut costs during a time when its recent films, from Marvel to animation, have underwhelmed at the box office.

"You pull back not just to focus, but also as part of our cost containment initiative. Spending less on what we make, and making less," Iger said Thursday.

Earlier this year, Disney rolled out a broad reorganization of the business that included $5.5 billion in cutting costs, of which $3 billion would be slashed from content excluding sports.

Iger said Thursday that a lot of decisions were made to prop up the company's flagship streaming service, Disney+, and beckon more customers.

While also noting that Disney had some Pixar animation misses in recent months, he called out Marvel as being a particular example of the company's "zeal" to pump up its original content on streaming.

"Marvel is a great example of that. It had not been in the television business at any significant level, and not only did they increase their movie output, but they ended up making a number of TV series," said Iger. "Frankly, it diluted focus and attention."

...

On Thursday, Iger said it was possible the company would license Disney content to other streaming platforms.

"It's a possibility. I won't rule it out," Iger said. He added that licensing had been part of a collection of models that formed the traditional TV business, and holding back content for their own platform in the early days of streaming was the right move.
Link Posted: 7/15/2023 6:50:05 PM EDT
[#49]
Content is king.

Ron didn't have any hand in Disney releasing shit movies.

Igor will just shift more jobs to India
Link Posted: 7/17/2023 8:22:44 PM EDT
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https://archive.is/eie2b
Bob Iger shifts from building an empire to a Disney yard sale
Bob Iger built Disney into the world’s most powerful entertainment company by acquiring Pixar, Marvel and Lucasfilm. Now he’s looking to downsize.
Iger put roughly a third of the company up for sale this week, declaring Disney’s linear TV assets noncore. That includes TV networks ABC, FX and Freeform. He also said Disney is looking for a strategic partner for ESPN — though he’s not willing to sell the whole thing — and the company is already looking to sell or restructure its TV and streaming business in India.

It’s a stunning if inevitable turn of events for an executive who spent so much of his career working in TV, and for a company that relied on cable networks for the majority of its profit. Before the pandemic, Disney’s media networks generated 35%, or $24.8 billion, of company revenue and more than 50%, or $7.5 billion, of its operating income.
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