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Posted: 3/2/2024 11:57:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By merick: 1.4 billion to a 104 billion dollar company is like a penny falling out of my pocket when I get my car keys. $1.4B lost sales over something like this for a company with annual US revenue of $58B is not just a biblical fuckup, it is, and I genuinely hate to use this word, unprecedented. Are they going out of business this year? Nope. Are their fixed costs still the same as last year? Yep. Could this be the start of them going the way of a million other dead brands? Yes, and I really hope it is. Plz God. Plz. |
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Posted: 3/2/2024 12:40:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGE: That statement is not correct at all. $1.4B lost sales over something like this for a company with annual US revenue of $58B is not just a biblical fuckup, it is, and I genuinely hate to use this word, unprecedented. Are they going out of business this year? Nope. Are their fixed costs still the same as last year? Yep. Could this be the start of them going the way of a million other dead brands? Yes, and I really hope it is. Plz God. Plz. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGE: Originally Posted By merick: 1.4 billion to a 104 billion dollar company is like a penny falling out of my pocket when I get my car keys. $1.4B lost sales over something like this for a company with annual US revenue of $58B is not just a biblical fuckup, it is, and I genuinely hate to use this word, unprecedented. Are they going out of business this year? Nope. Are their fixed costs still the same as last year? Yep. Could this be the start of them going the way of a million other dead brands? Yes, and I really hope it is. Plz God. Plz. No, the teamsters just worked them over so fixed costs are going up. 
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Posted: 3/4/2024 6:17:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/4/2024 7:07:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG:
Man, we need a warning on that. The video is hideous! 
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Posted: 3/5/2024 5:51:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG:
There are plenty of people and brands and companies that deserve it, but what I suspect a lot of commentators and would be leaders are missing is that BL was a perfect storm. A crummy product. That only stood because the company knew this AND knew the customers well enough to cater to them and make adverts that fit them. Tons of other alternatives at pricepoints and availability that made switching easy. ----------------------------------------------- Than AB insulted everyone by pushing an insulting woman-face-wearing jerk in everyone's faces.' If they had have instantly pulled back and apologized and sacrificed the girl who was head of the department responsible, they might not have had this happen to them. But they DIDN'T. Instead, we found out that she had been insulting us. And got reports that it wasn't just her idea, that what she did was in alignment with how the company thought on the topic. Than we found out AB has racist sexist and otherwise bigoted hiring/firing/workplace practices. Instead of doing what they should have right away - own it as a screwup, fess up, and make it right, they instead tried to PR spin everyone back into buying their product. People can TELL when you are trying to PR them back into your stores and product. It's insulting. Than AB, like a dog going back to it's vomit, starts sponsoring LGBT stuff, and not only that, but content and events where any reasonable person KNOWS young minor children are going to be exposed to the sexual anarchy content (because the promo material fro the events they sponsored said it in blunt clear terms). -------------------- I'm not saying some other company won't be "budlighted" ... or that they shouldn't. But you can't astroturf this stuff. Just show people what some company is doing. People will decide for themselves what they will and will not tolerate. |
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Posted: 3/5/2024 7:47:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/5/2024 7:51:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GH7ochKXcAAMSjj?format=jpg&name=small Never should have hired him. Glad I don't like doritos, but they've been one of the more obnoxious ones in the past ont he whole sexual anarchy thing. |
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Posted: 3/5/2024 8:05:48 PM EDT
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Look at that. Rolling Stone and New Republic jump in the fire for the pedo
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Posted: 3/5/2024 8:10:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG: Look at that. Rolling Stone and New Republic jump in the fire for the pedo https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GH8g3dIbsAAzEE_?format=jpg&name=small Quick, someone check the author's history. See if they flew on a certain plane or hung out with billy or podesta. |
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Posted: 3/5/2024 9:10:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: There are plenty of people and brands and companies that deserve it, but what I suspect a lot of commentators and would be leaders are missing is that BL was a perfect storm. A crummy product. That only stood because the company knew this AND knew the customers well enough to cater to them and make adverts that fit them. Tons of other alternatives at pricepoints and availability that made switching easy. ----------------------------------------------- Than AB insulted everyone by pushing an insulting woman-face-wearing jerk in everyone's faces.' If they had have instantly pulled back and apologized and sacrificed the girl who was head of the department responsible, they might not have had this happen to them. But they DIDN'T. Instead, we found out that she had been insulting us. And got reports that it wasn't just her idea, that what she did was in alignment with how the company thought on the topic. Than we found out AB has racist sexist and otherwise bigoted hiring/firing/workplace practices. Instead of doing what they should have right away - own it as a screwup, fess up, and make it right, they instead tried to PR spin everyone back into buying their product. People can TELL when you are trying to PR them back into your stores and product. It's insulting. Than AB, like a dog going back to it's vomit, starts sponsoring LGBT stuff, and not only that, but content and events where any reasonable person KNOWS young minor children are going to be exposed to the sexual anarchy content (because the promo material fro the events they sponsored said it in blunt clear terms). -------------------- I'm not saying some other company won't be "budlighted" ... or that they shouldn't. But you can't astroturf this stuff. Just show people what some company is doing. People will decide for themselves what they will and will not tolerate. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By RSG:
There are plenty of people and brands and companies that deserve it, but what I suspect a lot of commentators and would be leaders are missing is that BL was a perfect storm. A crummy product. That only stood because the company knew this AND knew the customers well enough to cater to them and make adverts that fit them. Tons of other alternatives at pricepoints and availability that made switching easy. ----------------------------------------------- Than AB insulted everyone by pushing an insulting woman-face-wearing jerk in everyone's faces.' If they had have instantly pulled back and apologized and sacrificed the girl who was head of the department responsible, they might not have had this happen to them. But they DIDN'T. Instead, we found out that she had been insulting us. And got reports that it wasn't just her idea, that what she did was in alignment with how the company thought on the topic. Than we found out AB has racist sexist and otherwise bigoted hiring/firing/workplace practices. Instead of doing what they should have right away - own it as a screwup, fess up, and make it right, they instead tried to PR spin everyone back into buying their product. People can TELL when you are trying to PR them back into your stores and product. It's insulting. Than AB, like a dog going back to it's vomit, starts sponsoring LGBT stuff, and not only that, but content and events where any reasonable person KNOWS young minor children are going to be exposed to the sexual anarchy content (because the promo material fro the events they sponsored said it in blunt clear terms). -------------------- I'm not saying some other company won't be "budlighted" ... or that they shouldn't. But you can't astroturf this stuff. Just show people what some company is doing. People will decide for themselves what they will and will not tolerate. Also, tranny lunatic had just days earlier shot up an elementary school as a political statement regarding being a tranny, and it hadn't been memory holed quickly enough so people were still pretty upset about that. |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 12:17:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LoBrau: Also, tranny lunatic had just days earlier shot up an elementary school as a political statement regarding being a tranny, and it hadn't been memory holed quickly enough so people were still pretty upset about that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LoBrau: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By RSG:
There are plenty of people and brands and companies that deserve it, but what I suspect a lot of commentators and would be leaders are missing is that BL was a perfect storm. A crummy product. That only stood because the company knew this AND knew the customers well enough to cater to them and make adverts that fit them. Tons of other alternatives at pricepoints and availability that made switching easy. ----------------------------------------------- Than AB insulted everyone by pushing an insulting woman-face-wearing jerk in everyone's faces.' If they had have instantly pulled back and apologized and sacrificed the girl who was head of the department responsible, they might not have had this happen to them. But they DIDN'T. Instead, we found out that she had been insulting us. And got reports that it wasn't just her idea, that what she did was in alignment with how the company thought on the topic. Than we found out AB has racist sexist and otherwise bigoted hiring/firing/workplace practices. Instead of doing what they should have right away - own it as a screwup, fess up, and make it right, they instead tried to PR spin everyone back into buying their product. People can TELL when you are trying to PR them back into your stores and product. It's insulting. Than AB, like a dog going back to it's vomit, starts sponsoring LGBT stuff, and not only that, but content and events where any reasonable person KNOWS young minor children are going to be exposed to the sexual anarchy content (because the promo material fro the events they sponsored said it in blunt clear terms). -------------------- I'm not saying some other company won't be "budlighted" ... or that they shouldn't. But you can't astroturf this stuff. Just show people what some company is doing. People will decide for themselves what they will and will not tolerate. Also, tranny lunatic had just days earlier shot up an elementary school as a political statement regarding being a tranny, and it hadn't been memory holed quickly enough so people were still pretty upset about that. ... Your'e right. I completely forgot about that. 3/27 is when the big thread here started. And from looking at the first 2 pages of that, that was also when the whole trans day of rage rhetoric and the like were going on. Post summer of all the lunatic parents taking their kids to those in your face and loud dragshows. |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 12:50:24 AM EDT
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Being Woke…something needs to be made the example of….HaHaHa!
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Posted: 3/6/2024 1:45:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Geralt55]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG: Look at that. Rolling Stone and New Republic jump in the fire for the pedo  Attached FileLegacy media is taking L's on these narratives. Back in the day, the talking points and astroturfed hash-tags would have gone out on twitter, and fast. The leftie-bluechecks would have swarmed to it. Their followers would get the talking points. You would see a cringe meme about it on your Faceberg feed. It would have been seen by the interns writing the teleprompters in the newsrooms. Onto the prompters, out to the boomers. You would have been talked down to at the watercooler at work the next day by your idiot coworker in between them mentioning their 9th booster. From no opinion to having the leftie-right-think in significant density, in a week. Instead they're now taking L's, and their speed is not what it was prior to Musk buying twitter. We're seeing this with the "oh there's no crime - haha wow why do Virginian voters care about immigration haha" cope memes (from the millionaire talking heads who live in shockingly-not-diverse gated communities). It's not catching on. It's not getting wall to wall echo-chamber levels before we can say back, "of course it will look like crime is going down if you don't catch or prosecute people anymore you dumbfuck?" ETA: Twitter's more powerful now than it has ever been, and culturally speaking, the left now has a fair fight, and it hasn't in a looong time. Doritos freaked out because they saw what happened to Bud Light. Leftie media shame-pieces couldn't save them and they knew it. I know some of the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet were all, "Well as long as Bud Light exists and sells beers the boycott meant nothing plz buy the pisswater plz", but. Reality is: If they lose a chunk of their profits, they fucking notice, even if the access media lies to you about it. |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 1:47:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Geralt55: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/144599/EndWokeness3524_jpg-3150711.JPG Legacy media is taking L's on these narratives. Back in the day, the talking points and astroturfed hash-tags would have gone out on twitter, and fast. The leftie-bluechecks would have swarmed to it. Their followers would get the talking points. You would see a cringe meme about it on your Faceberg feed. It would have been seen by the interns writing the teleprompters in the newsrooms. Onto the prompters, out to the boomers. You would have been talked down to at the watercooler at work the next day by your idiot coworker in between them mentioning their 9th booster. From no opinion to having the leftie-right-think in significant density, in a week. Instead they're now taking L's, and their speed is not what it was prior to Musk buying twitter. We're seeing this with the "oh there's no crime - haha wow why do Virginian voters care about immigration haha" cope memes (from the millionaire talking heads who live in shockingly-not-diverse gated communities). It's not catching on. It's not getting wall to wall echo-chamber levels before we can say back, "of course it will look like crime is going down if you don't catch or prosecute people anymore you dumbfuck?" Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Geralt55: Originally Posted By RSG: Look at that. Rolling Stone and New Republic jump in the fire for the pedo https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GH8g3dIbsAAzEE_?format=jpg&name=small https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/144599/EndWokeness3524_jpg-3150711.JPG Legacy media is taking L's on these narratives. Back in the day, the talking points and astroturfed hash-tags would have gone out on twitter, and fast. The leftie-bluechecks would have swarmed to it. Their followers would get the talking points. You would see a cringe meme about it on your Faceberg feed. It would have been seen by the interns writing the teleprompters in the newsrooms. Onto the prompters, out to the boomers. You would have been talked down to at the watercooler at work the next day by your idiot coworker in between them mentioning their 9th booster. From no opinion to having the leftie-right-think in significant density, in a week. Instead they're now taking L's, and their speed is not what it was prior to Musk buying twitter. We're seeing this with the "oh there's no crime - haha wow why do Virginian voters care about immigration haha" cope memes (from the millionaire talking heads who live in shockingly-not-diverse gated communities). It's not catching on. It's not getting wall to wall echo-chamber levels before we can say back, "of course it will look like crime is going down if you don't catch or prosecute people anymore you dumbfuck?" All of these people can "s" my "d" proper. 
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Posted: 3/6/2024 3:20:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: FlashMan-7k]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Geralt55: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/144599/EndWokeness3524_jpg-3150711.JPG Legacy media is taking L's on these narratives. Back in the day, the talking points and astroturfed hash-tags would have gone out on twitter, and fast. The leftie-bluechecks would have swarmed to it. Their followers would get the talking points. You would see a cringe meme about it on your Faceberg feed. It would have been seen by the interns writing the teleprompters in the newsrooms. Onto the prompters, out to the boomers. You would have been talked down to at the watercooler at work the next day by your idiot coworker in between them mentioning their 9th booster. From no opinion to having the leftie-right-think in significant density, in a week. Instead they're now taking L's, and their speed is not what it was prior to Musk buying twitter. We're seeing this with the "oh there's no crime - haha wow why do Virginian voters care about immigration haha" cope memes (from the millionaire talking heads who live in shockingly-not-diverse gated communities). It's not catching on. It's not getting wall to wall echo-chamber levels before we can say back, "of course it will look like crime is going down if you don't catch or prosecute people anymore you dumbfuck?" ETA: Twitter's more powerful now than it has ever been, and culturally speaking, the left now has a fair fight, and it hasn't in a looong time. Doritos freaked out because they saw what happened to Bud Light. Leftie media shame-pieces couldn't save them and they knew it. ... Reality is: If they lose a chunk of their profits, they notice, even if the access media lies to you about it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Geralt55: Originally Posted By RSG: Look at that. Rolling Stone and New Republic jump in the fire for the pedo https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GH8g3dIbsAAzEE_?format=jpg&name=small https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/144599/EndWokeness3524_jpg-3150711.JPG Legacy media is taking L's on these narratives. Back in the day, the talking points and astroturfed hash-tags would have gone out on twitter, and fast. The leftie-bluechecks would have swarmed to it. Their followers would get the talking points. You would see a cringe meme about it on your Faceberg feed. It would have been seen by the interns writing the teleprompters in the newsrooms. Onto the prompters, out to the boomers. You would have been talked down to at the watercooler at work the next day by your idiot coworker in between them mentioning their 9th booster. From no opinion to having the leftie-right-think in significant density, in a week. Instead they're now taking L's, and their speed is not what it was prior to Musk buying twitter. We're seeing this with the "oh there's no crime - haha wow why do Virginian voters care about immigration haha" cope memes (from the millionaire talking heads who live in shockingly-not-diverse gated communities). It's not catching on. It's not getting wall to wall echo-chamber levels before we can say back, "of course it will look like crime is going down if you don't catch or prosecute people anymore you dumbfuck?" ETA: Twitter's more powerful now than it has ever been, and culturally speaking, the left now has a fair fight, and it hasn't in a looong time. Doritos freaked out because they saw what happened to Bud Light. Leftie media shame-pieces couldn't save them and they knew it. ... Reality is: If they lose a chunk of their profits, they notice, even if the access media lies to you about it. IDK if doritos saw and feared, as much as they already knew what happened to BL. They hired that dude long long after what happened to BL became unavoidably obvious. I think they saw the potential for a serious backlash after the pedo stuff came up. With the thrashing that they already knew AB had taken in their mind too. Now the corps all have a pattern set, the pattern that they saw emerge of AB getting kicked in the teeth in the american market. If they see that pattern emerging against them, that's scary for them. I'm of the opinion that twitter will be alex-jonsed as a service sometime befor the election is done. For those who don't remember, all the major internet services dropped him in a day or a few days. It was an internet tech giants shunning. It really is enough to make you want to restrict yourself to only doing business with companies that aren't multinational and out of the states. AB losing the bilion+ is being buffered by the rest of the world. |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 8:30:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Never should have hired him. Glad I don't like doritos, but they've been one of the more obnoxious ones in the past ont he whole sexual anarchy thing. So you don’t like Doritos to begin with, they hire a guy and fire him for the reasons you say, and you’re still not happy. Cancel culture is really awesome. |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 9:02:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: IDK if doritos saw and feared, as much as they already knew what happened to BL. They hired that dude long long after what happened to BL became unavoidably obvious. I think they saw the potential for a serious backlash after the pedo stuff came up. With the thrashing that they already knew AB had taken in their mind too. Now the corps all have a pattern set, the pattern that they saw emerge of AB getting kicked in the teeth in the american market. If they see that pattern emerging against them, that's scary for them. I'm of the opinion that twitter will be alex-jonsed as a service sometime befor the election is done. For those who don't remember, all the major internet services dropped him in a day or a few days. It was an internet tech giants shunning. It really is enough to make you want to restrict yourself to only doing business with companies that aren't multinational and out of the states. AB losing the bilion+ is being buffered by the rest of the world. I don’t think bud light even came to mind. They hired a social media person, didn’t do all their homework, found out some stuff and fired the guy. Just like businesses do all the time. ‘You didn’t mention you’re a felon. Background check showed you’re a felon. Sorry but we aren’t offering you the job.’ |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 9:32:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By durtychemist: So you don't like Doritos to begin with, they hire a guy and fire him for the reasons you say, and you're still not happy. Cancel culture is really awesome. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By durtychemist: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Never should have hired him. Glad I don't like doritos, but they've been one of the more obnoxious ones in the past ont he whole sexual anarchy thing. So you don't like Doritos to begin with, they hire a guy and fire him for the reasons you say, and you're still not happy. Cancel culture is really awesome. I don't know whether to laugh or cry |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 2:19:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: I'm of the opinion that twitter will be alex-jonsed as a service sometime befor the election is done. For those who don't remember, all the major internet services dropped him in a day or a few days. It was an internet tech giants shunning. It really is enough to make you want to restrict yourself to only doing business with companies that aren't multinational and out of the states. I don't know if that would disable apps on phones that already had it or not, though? |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 3:23:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By durtychemist: So you don’t like Doritos to begin with, they hire a guy and fire him for the reasons you say, and you’re still not happy. Cancel culture is really awesome. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By durtychemist: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Never should have hired him. Glad I don't like doritos, but they've been one of the more obnoxious ones in the past ont he whole sexual anarchy thing. So you don’t like Doritos to begin with, they hire a guy and fire him for the reasons you say, and you’re still not happy. Cancel culture is really awesome. Do you feel better now? Have a candy bar, your blood sugar is off. Yes, it's perfectly sane to not want people to hire out and proud about it pedos (reportedly the dude made public posts about his violent pedo fantasies) who swear they are the sex they aren't as their public representation. This is not hard to figure out. |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 3:27:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Leisure_Shoot: You're not wrong. All it would take is Apple or Google to remove them from the stores. I don't know if that would disable apps on phones that already had it or not, though? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Leisure_Shoot: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: I'm of the opinion that twitter will be alex-jonsed as a service sometime befor the election is done. For those who don't remember, all the major internet services dropped him in a day or a few days. It was an internet tech giants shunning. It really is enough to make you want to restrict yourself to only doing business with companies that aren't multinational and out of the states. I don't know if that would disable apps on phones that already had it or not, though? Or things like ... whoever provides them server bandwidth / denial of service protection dropping them. |
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Posted: 3/14/2024 7:44:28 AM EDT
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Altria, which sells Marlboro cigarettes in the US, owns about 10% of the beermaker. It will sell AB InBev stock in a global secondary offering of shares in the US, Europe, the UK and other countries outside the US, Altria said Wednesday. The tobacco group will offer the AB InBev US shares in a range of $60.75 to $62.75 each, according to people familiar with the plans who cannot be identified discussing confidential information. AB InBev fell as much as 5.1% in extended New York trading and was suspended in Brussels when markets opened. Altria stock was little changed at the close on Wednesday. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/altria-plans-sell-35-million-202956169.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/shares-brewer-ab-inbev-suspended-083116531.html |
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Posted: 3/14/2024 1:46:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: spidey07]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By anothermisanthrope: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/altria-plans-sell-35-million-202956169.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/shares-brewer-ab-inbev-suspended-083116531.html Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By anothermisanthrope: Altria, which sells Marlboro cigarettes in the US, owns about 10% of the beermaker. It will sell AB InBev stock in a global secondary offering of shares in the US, Europe, the UK and other countries outside the US, Altria said Wednesday. The tobacco group will offer the AB InBev US shares in a range of $60.75 to $62.75 each, according to people familiar with the plans who cannot be identified discussing confidential information. AB InBev fell as much as 5.1% in extended New York trading and was suspended in Brussels when markets opened. Altria stock was little changed at the close on Wednesday. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/altria-plans-sell-35-million-202956169.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/shares-brewer-ab-inbev-suspended-083116531.html That’s a pretty big move. Lets see if anybody buys them. |
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Posted: 3/14/2024 1:49:39 PM EDT
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Buy the dip.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 2:53:55 PM EDT
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Bud Light may lose 18% of grocery store shelf space after Dylan Mulvaney boycott By Social Links for Ariel Zilber Published March 28, 2024, 1:04 p.m. ET ... “Anheuser-Busch’s beers will lose a range of about 10% to 15% of their space nationally as resets start,” Jesse Ferber, chief strategy officer for Columbia Distributing, which works with retailers such as Walmart and Target in the Pacific Northwest, told Bloomberg News. Ferber said that while the final numbers won’t be known until May or June, he estimates that stores in certain regions of the country could downgrade Bud Light’s shelf space by as much as 18% while in other areas it could be as low as 5%. Molson Coors Brewing Co, whose stable of brands includes Coors Light, Miller Lite and Coors Banquet, expects to see an increase of shelf space of more than 10%. Brian Feiro, president of US sales at Molson Coors, told Bloomberg that more than 50 retailers increased shelf space for Coors Light and Miller Lite by 6% to 7% last summer and fall. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:03:19 PM EDT
[#26]
How sad.
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Posted: 3/28/2024 3:11:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: spidey07]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Bud Light may lose 18% of grocery store shelf space after Dylan Mulvaney boycott By Social Links for Ariel Zilber Published March 28, 2024, 1:04 p.m. ET ... “Anheuser-Busch’s beers will lose a range of about 10% to 15% of their space nationally as resets start,” Jesse Ferber, chief strategy officer for Columbia Distributing, which works with retailers such as Walmart and Target in the Pacific Northwest, told Bloomberg News. Ferber said that while the final numbers won’t be known until May or June, he estimates that stores in certain regions of the country could downgrade Bud Light’s shelf space by as much as 18% while in other areas it could be as low as 5%. Molson Coors Brewing Co, whose stable of brands includes Coors Light, Miller Lite and Coors Banquet, expects to see an increase of shelf space of more than 10%. Brian Feiro, president of US sales at Molson Coors, told Bloomberg that more than 50 retailers increased shelf space for Coors Light and Miller Lite by 6% to 7% last summer and fall. If it doesn’t move, it doesnt get the space. It’s not boycott. It’s brand abandonment. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 6:08:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Bud Light may lose 18% of grocery store shelf space after Dylan Mulvaney boycott By Social Links for Ariel Zilber Published March 28, 2024, 1:04 p.m. ET ... “Anheuser-Busch’s beers will lose a range of about 10% to 15% of their space nationally as resets start,” Jesse Ferber, chief strategy officer for Columbia Distributing, which works with retailers such as Walmart and Target in the Pacific Northwest, told Bloomberg News. Ferber said that while the final numbers won’t be known until May or June, he estimates that stores in certain regions of the country could downgrade Bud Light’s shelf space by as much as 18% while in other areas it could be as low as 5%. Molson Coors Brewing Co, whose stable of brands includes Coors Light, Miller Lite and Coors Banquet, expects to see an increase of shelf space of more than 10%. Brian Feiro, president of US sales at Molson Coors, told Bloomberg that more than 50 retailers increased shelf space for Coors Light and Miller Lite by 6% to 7% last summer and fall. There it is. The numbers on the new sets still won't be completely correct because of logistical constraints of the old sets limited the sales for companies like Yuengling who were perpetually blown out once people started reaching for an alternative beer. IF Yuengling can get greater shelf real-estate based off of the increased sales from last year's abandonment of Bud Light, I'd expect to see an even larger contraction of Buds space in another year because Yuengling and others will have more space in the coolers THIS year after the resets. Empty spots on a vendor controlled shelf with thousands of SKUs can be tricky for stores to monitor. There are probably hundreds of beers that could take even more of Buds space that only get 2 to 4 six packs of volume on the shelf, one guy comes in and empties it immediately and no sales are made until the vendor comes back in a day or two. This looks like slow sales on paper but it isn't telling the story that there is actually great demand but no more cold beer for people to buy. IMO Bud is only losing half or less as much as they deserve but they have been such a behemoth for so many years it is going to take time for the system to whittle away at their frontage. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 6:35:53 PM EDT
[#29]
I wonder if it has anything to do with all their beers sucking so bad?
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Posted: 3/28/2024 6:38:48 PM EDT
[#30]
Why would all of these brands keep pushing these pedos and trannys unless its not about the money at all .
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IL, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 6:52:40 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DDDDCheapAF: Why would all of these brands keep pushing these pedos and trannys unless its not about the money at all . It is about money though. Large investment companies like Blackrock were refusing to invest in these corporations unless they were DEI compliant. In this day and age, every corporation is heavily in debt and can't operate without it. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 8:01:03 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By postpostban: It is about money though. Large investment companies like Blackrock were refusing to invest in these corporations unless they were DEI compliant. In this day and age, every corporation is heavily in debt and can't operate without it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By postpostban: Originally Posted By DDDDCheapAF: Why would all of these brands keep pushing these pedos and trannys unless its not about the money at all . It is about money though. Large investment companies like Blackrock were refusing to invest in these corporations unless they were DEI compliant. In this day and age, every corporation is heavily in debt and can't operate without it. Many, MANY of the C-suite and senior executives that arfcom worship, who run these companies are leftists and are happy to push this shit as well. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 8:07:05 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Millennial: Years ago, a part I designed was specifically named as a primary contributor to the total loss of a nearly $200M prototype during a flight test. It iced up during the ascent, f’ed everything up, and ultimately the FAA made us activate the flight termination system once we were over a remote area. It literally crashed & burned. And they still let me work there  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Millennial: Originally Posted By mayday: Yet they STILL dont have the balls to fire the moron girl that did this. Which says a lot. If i caused a 7 billion loss at my work; everyone including the janitor would line up to kick my balls -- and then four guys would grab me, lift me off the ground, open the front door with my head and heave me into traffic. Years ago, a part I designed was specifically named as a primary contributor to the total loss of a nearly $200M prototype during a flight test. It iced up during the ascent, f’ed everything up, and ultimately the FAA made us activate the flight termination system once we were over a remote area. It literally crashed & burned. And they still let me work there How was the transition to the maritime group after that? Were they welcoming? Good acceptance?
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Posted: 3/28/2024 8:09:54 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spidey07: If it doesn’t move, it doesnt get the space. It’s not boycott. It’s brand abandonment. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spidey07: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Bud Light may lose 18% of grocery store shelf space after Dylan Mulvaney boycott By Social Links for Ariel Zilber Published March 28, 2024, 1:04 p.m. ET ... “Anheuser-Busch’s beers will lose a range of about 10% to 15% of their space nationally as resets start,” Jesse Ferber, chief strategy officer for Columbia Distributing, which works with retailers such as Walmart and Target in the Pacific Northwest, told Bloomberg News. Ferber said that while the final numbers won’t be known until May or June, he estimates that stores in certain regions of the country could downgrade Bud Light’s shelf space by as much as 18% while in other areas it could be as low as 5%. Molson Coors Brewing Co, whose stable of brands includes Coors Light, Miller Lite and Coors Banquet, expects to see an increase of shelf space of more than 10%. Brian Feiro, president of US sales at Molson Coors, told Bloomberg that more than 50 retailers increased shelf space for Coors Light and Miller Lite by 6% to 7% last summer and fall. If it doesn’t move, it doesnt get the space. It’s not boycott. It’s brand abandonment. This It's not a "boycott" it's straight up market share loss and brand abandonment. Few people are bemoaning the absence of Bud Lite and just can't wait to go back. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 10:08:36 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stug3: I wonder if it has anything to do with all their beers sucking so bad? I suspect that's one of the bigger factors. If their product really was the best it would have hurt more to have left it. All the more reason why the never should have done what they did. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 10:09:14 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TLD05: There it is. The numbers on the new sets still won't be completely correct because of logistical constraints of the old sets limited the sales for companies like Yuengling who were perpetually blown out once people started reaching for an alternative beer. IF Yuengling can get greater shelf real-estate based off of the increased sales from last year's abandonment of Bud Light, I'd expect to see an even larger contraction of Buds space in another year because Yuengling and others will have more space in the coolers THIS year after the resets. Empty spots on a vendor controlled shelf with thousands of SKUs can be tricky for stores to monitor. There are probably hundreds of beers that could take even more of Buds space that only get 2 to 4 six packs of volume on the shelf, one guy comes in and empties it immediately and no sales are made until the vendor comes back in a day or two. This looks like slow sales on paper but it isn't telling the story that there is actually great demand but no more cold beer for people to buy. IMO Bud is only losing half or less as much as they deserve but they have been such a behemoth for so many years it is going to take time for the system to whittle away at their frontage. Interesting, thanks for the info. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 10:12:47 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DDDDCheapAF: Why would all of these brands keep pushing these pedos and trannys unless its not about the money at all . We actually had some threads on arf about it. The best we could find and that I saw: the huge firms pushing around titanic amounts of money for the DEI causes. Companies needed to increase their rankings with the funds to get money. ESG scores. This I think would have fallen under the S or social score. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 10:14:03 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By A_G: Many, MANY of the C-suite and senior executives that arfcom worship, who run these companies are leftists and are happy to push this as well. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By A_G: Originally Posted By postpostban: Originally Posted By DDDDCheapAF: Why would all of these brands keep pushing these pedos and trannys unless its not about the money at all . It is about money though. Large investment companies like Blackrock were refusing to invest in these corporations unless they were DEI compliant. In this day and age, every corporation is heavily in debt and can't operate without it. Many, MANY of the C-suite and senior executives that arfcom worship, who run these companies are leftists and are happy to push this as well. I suspect that flower has mostly fallen off for conservatives. There's only so many times you get stabbed in the face by the thorns before you get a clue for most people. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 10:14:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Kingdead]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DDDDCheapAF: Why would all of these brands keep pushing these pedos and trannys unless its not about the money at all . |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 10:45:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: spidey07]
[#40]
True story. I dated a chic whose sole job was going into retailers/grocery stores to make sure their product had the right eye level and sq footage.
Dat shit is a very very big deal. 30 bucks/hr. Full time. With a company car and all expenses. In 19 fucking 94. So yeah, shelf space is a big deal. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 10:51:36 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Leisure_Shoot: You're not wrong. All it would take is Apple or Google to remove them from the stores. I don't know if that would disable apps on phones that already had it or not, though? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Leisure_Shoot: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: I'm of the opinion that twitter will be alex-jonsed as a service sometime befor the election is done. For those who don't remember, all the major internet services dropped him in a day or a few days. It was an internet tech giants shunning. It really is enough to make you want to restrict yourself to only doing business with companies that aren't multinational and out of the states. I don't know if that would disable apps on phones that already had it or not, though? Seems like he could then remove them from star link? That's the problem they have with Musk...the man puts all their crap in space . |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 10:56:28 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spidey07: True story. I dated a chic whose sole job was going into retailers/grocery stores to make sure their product had the right eye level and sq footage. Dat shit is a very very big deal. Yeah, there's a printed rendering of what the shelf is supposed to look like fully stocked with every facing of every product where it was negotiated. This is used as a Bible for the store to keep all the vendors in their lanes. Especially the import section there can be multiple vendors with products intertwined completely throughout the shelf. It's a battlefield in some markets. LOL When merchandising we had to rotate the dates of every thing going in the cooler, newest in the back/bottom. Every 6 pack was supposed to have the front 3 bottles rotated so the stickers above the carrier were facing forward. Every single bottle or can "faced" in the same way. It's a hard job and a picky job that mostly sucks. 
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Posted: 3/28/2024 11:11:01 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TLD05: There it is. The numbers on the new sets still won't be completely correct because of logistical constraints of the old sets limited the sales for companies like Yuengling who were perpetually blown out once people started reaching for an alternative beer. IF Yuengling can get greater shelf real-estate based off of the increased sales from last year's abandonment of Bud Light, I'd expect to see an even larger contraction of Buds space in another year because Yuengling and others will have more space in the coolers THIS year after the resets. Empty spots on a vendor controlled shelf with thousands of SKUs can be tricky for stores to monitor. There are probably hundreds of beers that could take even more of Buds space that only get 2 to 4 six packs of volume on the shelf, one guy comes in and empties it immediately and no sales are made until the vendor comes back in a day or two. This looks like slow sales on paper but it isn't telling the story that there is actually great demand but no more cold beer for people to buy. IMO Bud is only losing half or less as much as they deserve but they have been such a behemoth for so many years it is going to take time for the system to whittle away at their frontage. The one issue I see with Yuengling is whether production can keep up with demand. It's been a problem for them in the past when they've had spikes in popularity or expanded markets. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 11:48:46 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WinstonSmith: The one issue I see with Yuengling is whether production can keep up with demand. It's been a problem for them in the past when they've had spikes in popularity or expanded markets. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WinstonSmith: Originally Posted By TLD05: There it is. The numbers on the new sets still won't be completely correct because of logistical constraints of the old sets limited the sales for companies like Yuengling who were perpetually blown out once people started reaching for an alternative beer. IF Yuengling can get greater shelf real-estate based off of the increased sales from last year's abandonment of Bud Light, I'd expect to see an even larger contraction of Buds space in another year because Yuengling and others will have more space in the coolers THIS year after the resets. Empty spots on a vendor controlled shelf with thousands of SKUs can be tricky for stores to monitor. There are probably hundreds of beers that could take even more of Buds space that only get 2 to 4 six packs of volume on the shelf, one guy comes in and empties it immediately and no sales are made until the vendor comes back in a day or two. This looks like slow sales on paper but it isn't telling the story that there is actually great demand but no more cold beer for people to buy. IMO Bud is only losing half or less as much as they deserve but they have been such a behemoth for so many years it is going to take time for the system to whittle away at their frontage. The one issue I see with Yuengling is whether production can keep up with demand. It's been a problem for them in the past when they've had spikes in popularity or expanded markets. Their price needs to come down a bit as well. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 12:47:53 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tree-hugger: Their price needs to come down a bit as well. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tree-hugger: Originally Posted By WinstonSmith: Originally Posted By TLD05: There it is. The numbers on the new sets still won't be completely correct because of logistical constraints of the old sets limited the sales for companies like Yuengling who were perpetually blown out once people started reaching for an alternative beer. IF Yuengling can get greater shelf real-estate based off of the increased sales from last year's abandonment of Bud Light, I'd expect to see an even larger contraction of Buds space in another year because Yuengling and others will have more space in the coolers THIS year after the resets. Empty spots on a vendor controlled shelf with thousands of SKUs can be tricky for stores to monitor. There are probably hundreds of beers that could take even more of Buds space that only get 2 to 4 six packs of volume on the shelf, one guy comes in and empties it immediately and no sales are made until the vendor comes back in a day or two. This looks like slow sales on paper but it isn't telling the story that there is actually great demand but no more cold beer for people to buy. IMO Bud is only losing half or less as much as they deserve but they have been such a behemoth for so many years it is going to take time for the system to whittle away at their frontage. The one issue I see with Yuengling is whether production can keep up with demand. It's been a problem for them in the past when they've had spikes in popularity or expanded markets. Their price needs to come down a bit as well. If their shelf space doesn't match their demand than the shortage will drive their price up and they are likely to be losing income because of not having full volume going to match their demand. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 9:54:33 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tree-hugger: Their price needs to come down a bit as well. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tree-hugger: Originally Posted By WinstonSmith: Originally Posted By TLD05: There it is. The numbers on the new sets still won't be completely correct because of logistical constraints of the old sets limited the sales for companies like Yuengling who were perpetually blown out once people started reaching for an alternative beer. IF Yuengling can get greater shelf real-estate based off of the increased sales from last year's abandonment of Bud Light, I'd expect to see an even larger contraction of Buds space in another year because Yuengling and others will have more space in the coolers THIS year after the resets. Empty spots on a vendor controlled shelf with thousands of SKUs can be tricky for stores to monitor. There are probably hundreds of beers that could take even more of Buds space that only get 2 to 4 six packs of volume on the shelf, one guy comes in and empties it immediately and no sales are made until the vendor comes back in a day or two. This looks like slow sales on paper but it isn't telling the story that there is actually great demand but no more cold beer for people to buy. IMO Bud is only losing half or less as much as they deserve but they have been such a behemoth for so many years it is going to take time for the system to whittle away at their frontage. The one issue I see with Yuengling is whether production can keep up with demand. It's been a problem for them in the past when they've had spikes in popularity or expanded markets. Their price needs to come down a bit as well. Yuengling is $18-20/case here, Miller/bud /etc is usually 21-22ish. Even pabst and high life are usually over 20, which is batshit insane. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 10:05:35 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LoBrau: Yuengling is $18-20/case here, Miller/bud /etc is usually 21-22ish. Even pabst and high life are usually over 20, which is batshit insane. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LoBrau: Originally Posted By tree-hugger: Originally Posted By WinstonSmith: Originally Posted By TLD05: There it is. The numbers on the new sets still won't be completely correct because of logistical constraints of the old sets limited the sales for companies like Yuengling who were perpetually blown out once people started reaching for an alternative beer. IF Yuengling can get greater shelf real-estate based off of the increased sales from last year's abandonment of Bud Light, I'd expect to see an even larger contraction of Buds space in another year because Yuengling and others will have more space in the coolers THIS year after the resets. Empty spots on a vendor controlled shelf with thousands of SKUs can be tricky for stores to monitor. There are probably hundreds of beers that could take even more of Buds space that only get 2 to 4 six packs of volume on the shelf, one guy comes in and empties it immediately and no sales are made until the vendor comes back in a day or two. This looks like slow sales on paper but it isn't telling the story that there is actually great demand but no more cold beer for people to buy. IMO Bud is only losing half or less as much as they deserve but they have been such a behemoth for so many years it is going to take time for the system to whittle away at their frontage. The one issue I see with Yuengling is whether production can keep up with demand. It's been a problem for them in the past when they've had spikes in popularity or expanded markets. Their price needs to come down a bit as well. Yuengling is $18-20/case here, Miller/bud /etc is usually 21-22ish. Even pabst and high life are usually over 20, which is batshit insane. I forgot about regional price differences. Thank you. The Yuengling I like is Flight and in the St. Louis, MO area they're asking $27 per case... |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 10:18:37 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By A_G: Many, MANY of the C-suite and senior executives that arfcom worship, who run these companies are leftists and are happy to push this shit as well. The past 5 years or so I've been voting my shares against many of the board members running and those management options. It isn't affecting things overall because the funds hold so many shares, but it's a step. I always vote for having their political donations made public. If you get those ballots run the names of proposed board members, the left is so fucking greedy they can make big money being on the boards. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 11:30:07 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LoBrau: Yuengling is $18-20/case here, Miller/bud /etc is usually 21-22ish. Even pabst and high life are usually over 20, which is batshit insane. $24 a case here, in glass bottles. |
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Posted: 3/29/2024 12:42:11 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By billclo: $24 a case here, in glass bottles. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By billclo: Originally Posted By LoBrau: Yuengling is $18-20/case here, Miller/bud /etc is usually 21-22ish. Even pabst and high life are usually over 20, which is batshit insane. $24 a case here, in glass bottles. From what I've seen glass is usually a little more than cans. I usually get cans anyway cause they stack better in my fridge.
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