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Posted: 5/28/2001 11:50:58 AM EDT
I showed some of the .50 caliber hysteria writings to a co-worker. It had the desired effect; he now WANTS one. Dirty trick, wasn't it? So, what's the cheapest way to build/buy a 50 BMG without having to register it, e.g. an upper for an AR? Thanks for any help talking this guy into buying one. PS: How punishing are they to fire w/o using a muzzle break? That seems like it would do away with a lot of the expense.
Link Posted: 5/28/2001 11:55:30 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/28/2001 12:11:58 PM EDT
Serbu's BFG-50 is only $1975 for single shot and $2595 for Magazine fed [img]www.serbu.com/bfg3500-1s.jpg[/img] [url]http://www.serbu.com/[/url] their web site has video's of the BFG-50 in action.
Link Posted: 5/28/2001 12:18:53 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/28/2001 12:48:37 PM EDT
The BFG still has a bit of a wait (but definitely getting better). The M-60 bipod shown in the picture is not included. As to shooting the .50 without a muzzle brake, be my guest--it's your shoulder and forehead that will get damaged. Kind of pointless to shoot an accurate gun and develop such a bad flinch that you can't shoot it well. Prices now-- Watson's Upper $1200 State Arms Shorty (Pic Below) $1800 Serbu $2000 Grizzly $2100 Armalite $2400 Barrett M 99 $2500 Barrett M 95 $5000 McBros $5000 Barrett M 82 $6500 Windrunner $7000 The above are all without optics, and most are without bipod. Some of the guys at the Ottawa shoot got a chance to shoot my State Arms Knob Creek 2000--very similar to the Shorty below (heavier, non-tapered barrel that is slightly longer). It is the best deal going right now, as it includes a basic scope base and rings along with an excellent bipod. Minimum scope for a .50 is generally regarded as the Tasco SuperSniper scope (can find them for about $300). They go up from there. Ammo--basic price is about $1.50/rd. for re-manufactured Talon Ball ammo. Prices go up from there. [img]www.statearms.com/images/Shorty.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 5/28/2001 2:54:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/28/2001 2:59:19 PM EDT by JonnieGTyler]
Here's the cheapest .50 I've seen. [url]http://www.birdman.org/products/jaded.htm[/url] Also check out the nuclear tip .50 ammo.[url]http://www.birdman.org/products/Nuke50.htm [/url] And the Barrett m82 entry gun looks like fun. [:D] [url]http://www.birdman.org/products/M82entryl.htm[/url] (edited because I'm to cyper-challenge to do three links at one time [BD])
Link Posted: 5/28/2001 3:17:53 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/28/2001 4:18:52 PM EDT
Nothing about the .50 cal is cheap. But, as has been mentioned, the Watsons upper, [url]www.watsonsweapons.com/[/url] is the least expensive way to go. Just order, and wait for the delivery. I have heard good things about this product, but have no experience with it. Accuracy is reported to be good, but the breech setup is very slow. Some use a cordless drill to speed things up. Don't shoot one (ANY .50 BMG) without a muzzle brake. There is no registration of .50 BMGs (Non-Class IIIs) at this time. Also, if your friend is a reloader, it takes a special setup to reload .50 BMG.
Link Posted: 7/22/2001 8:44:41 AM EDT
You will never find a better deal than this [:D] : [img]http://securityarms.com/20010315/pics/0800/848.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 7/22/2001 10:10:16 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Zoom Wilson: I showed some of the .50 caliber hysteria writings to a co-worker. It had the desired effect; he now WANTS one. Dirty trick, wasn't it? So, what's the cheapest way to build/buy a 50 BMG without having to register it, e.g. an upper for an AR? Thanks for any help talking this guy into buying one. PS: How punishing are they to fire w/o using a muzzle break? That seems like it would do away with a lot of the expense.
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Another promissing .50 upper is the Ferret. This setup is meant to be shoulder fired, like a standard rifle. It is a bolt action .50 BMG upper. Going for $1500.00, I believe. DO NOT SHOOT A .50 BMG WITH OUT A MUZZLE BRAKE! Especially the lighter rifles, i.e Serbu and this Ferret. [url]www.ferret50.com/[/url] [img]www.ferret50.com/graphics/photos/ferret50_large.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 7/22/2001 12:21:47 PM EDT
I'm also interested in taking the plunge into the .50 BMG world. Here's a link to my .50 BMG comparison chart: [url]http://www.users.qwest.net/~tholemark/50BMGChart.htm[/url] The Ferrett50 looks cool, but with such a short barrel I'd think you'd loose quite a bit of velocity. There is a thread going on over at TheFiringLine.com under the art of the rifle forum as well.
Link Posted: 7/22/2001 6:27:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mpthole: I'm also interested in taking the plunge into the .50 BMG world. Here's a link to my .50 BMG comparison chart: [url]http://www.users.qwest.net/~tholemark/50BMGChart.htm[/url] The Ferrett50 looks cool, but with such a short barrel I'd think you'd loose quite a bit of velocity. There is a thread going on over at TheFiringLine.com under the art of the rifle forum as well.
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Good chart, but I have a couple of corrections. The State Arms Rebel has a 36" Bull Barrel, not a 30". The weight is 33#, not 23#. It is available in a 1-15" or a 1-9.5" twist.
Link Posted: 7/22/2001 8:55:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Paul: I copied this while pondering .50 BMG's last year [i]Single Shot .BMG AR-15 upper $1,200 http://www.watsonsweapons.com/ Pros: fits existing AR-15 lowers, no registration or FFL needed, affordable Cons: accuracy & you have to wonder about reliability Serbu Single-shot: $1,975 http://www.serbu.com/bfg50.htm Pros: only 22 pounds, price/terms are good Cons: delay? Armalite Model AR--50: $2,515 http://www.armalite.com/ Pros: looks great Cons: 41 pounds Barrett Model M99: $3,000 http://www.barrettrifles.com/ Pros: 25 pounds Cons: $$ Lars Grizzly Single-shot: $2,570 http://www.largrizzly.com/ Cons: 30.4 pounds Bolt-Action Serbu Bolt-action (magazine-fed): $2,595 http://www.serbu.com/bfg50.htm Pros: only 22 pounds, 5-rd. mags, price/terms are good Cons: bolt in odd position, delay? Barrett Model M95: $4,950 http://www.barrettrifles.com/ Pros: 22 pounds, 5-rd. mags Cons: $$ EDM Arms Bolt-action (magazine-fed): $8,250 http://www.edmarms.com/products.htm Pros: 5-rd. mags, take-down nice feature, great package Cons: 34 pounds, most expensive on the list?? Semi-Auto Barrett Model M82A1: $7,200 http://www.barrettrifles.com/ Pros: 28.5 pounds, 10-rd. mags Cons: $$[/i]
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Good to see that some of the prices have dropped since you made up your list, the Grizzly has dropped almost $500, and the Windrunner is down $1k. I love capitalism!
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 5:50:08 AM EDT
Oh, yeah. Never fire a 50BMG without a brake. Unless it is a 200lb bench gun. I doubt that any MFG would sell a 50 without a brake. I have had many requests for a longer barrel. So, for those who want, I can sell a Ferret50 with a 30"to 35" barrel. If you have machine equipment, that is the cheapest way to have a 50 with no paper trail. If you dont have equipment, buying an AR upper is the way to go. Email me if you have any questions. info@ferret50.com
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