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Posted: 5/5/2022 10:46:50 AM EDT
[#1]
Look at the Ukraine.
How would 2 years supplies have worked there? It would just feeds the Russians. Unless you are really really rural, I see your home being overrun reasonably quickly. I'm not advocating doing nothing, just advocating, thinking it through. Prioritizing. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/5/2022 10:48:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sader762: I have preps, I've been doing so for decades. But you know, after a while, I get sick and tired of hearing the doom and gloom that the entire world societies will completely fall apart. Over the past 50 years we've had multiple "this is the one, get ready! " it's all very tiresome. The world's not gonna collapse, ARFcoms wet dream of lawlessness and fending for yourselves will never happen. I’m going with this. Still hedging my bets but if food and water are difficult to get for more than a month, there ain’t much hope for even the hard of the hard. How long do people make it on the show ‘Alone’? They train for it and make it what? A month or two maybe? The world has ‘ended’ many times over my years. Is this our global warming? |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2022 10:50:52 AM EDT
[#3]
Fail to prepare, prepare to fail.
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Posted: 5/5/2022 10:52:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RotorWash109: GD better not forget 2 years of insulin, test strips and maybe some metformin. I have a two yr supply of viagra and metamucil. I'm ready |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 10:54:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alacran: Hearing is one thing, seeing is another. If you’re not seeing what’s going on with the world’s food supply, then the warning will most likely fall on deaf ears. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alacran: Originally Posted By Sader762: I have preps, I've been doing so for decades. But you know, after a while, I get sick and tired of hearing the doom and gloom that the entire world societies will completely fall apart. Over the past 50 years we've had multiple "this is the one, get ready! " it's all very tiresome. The world's not gonna collapse, ARFcoms wet dream of lawlessness and fending for yourselves will never happen. Hearing is one thing, seeing is another. If you’re not seeing what’s going on with the world’s food supply, then the warning will most likely fall on deaf ears. There are WAY too many angles and nuances to the world for even one person to be foolish enough to think they ‘see the future’. But everyone does want to seem to be the most intelligent in the room. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2022 10:55:09 AM EDT
[#6]
Need a DOOM subforum.
Also need a coming out ghey subforum for a few of the people in the Logan/Rittenhouse thread. |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 10:55:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Alacran]
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ClayHollisterTT: I don’t think it is very good. I used to follow him during the WOT. He definitely provided good info that we weren’t getting through the MSM. He has since spent his time in other trouble spots but that doesn’t mean he can accurately predict the future. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ClayHollisterTT: Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Reporter who was embedded with US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan forever, and has toured other shitholes extensively. You've seen some of his photos for sure. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/yon_2_jpg-2372887.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/yon1_jpg-2372889.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/yon_3_jpg-2372891.JPG What's his accuracy rate when predicting stuff? I don’t think it is very good. I used to follow him during the WOT. He definitely provided good info that we weren’t getting through the MSM. He has since spent his time in other trouble spots but that doesn’t mean he can accurately predict the future. Being able to recognize warning signs from previous experiences and predicting the future are two different things. Time has shown that he does a pretty good job at recognizing the warning signs.  'Agent Provocateur' Tactics Seen at Jan 6 US Capitol Protest—Interview With Michael Yon | Crossroads |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 10:57:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flatiron244: Need a DOOM subforum. Also need a coming out ghey subforum for a few of the people in the Logan/Rittenhouse thread. LoL aint that the truth. Show ARFCOM some nice boobs and they bitch about it 
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TN, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2022 10:58:36 AM EDT
[#9]
Just hoard terlit paper, everything else might be a little slow butt that's the one thing you really need to have. That shit disappeared damn near over night and took months to even start to come back because of the Chinese flu.
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:03:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Er_Mah_Gerd: I’m going with this. Still hedging my bets but if food and water are difficult to get for more than a month, there ain’t much hope for even the hard of the hard. How long do people make it on the show ‘Alone’? They train for it and make it what? A month or two maybe? The world has ‘ended’ many times over my years. Is this our global warming? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Er_Mah_Gerd: Originally Posted By Sader762: I have preps, I've been doing so for decades. But you know, after a while, I get sick and tired of hearing the doom and gloom that the entire world societies will completely fall apart. Over the past 50 years we've had multiple "this is the one, get ready! " it's all very tiresome. The world's not gonna collapse, ARFcoms wet dream of lawlessness and fending for yourselves will never happen. I’m going with this. Still hedging my bets but if food and water are difficult to get for more than a month, there ain’t much hope for even the hard of the hard. How long do people make it on the show ‘Alone’? They train for it and make it what? A month or two maybe? The world has ‘ended’ many times over my years. Is this our global warming? My ancestors survived the Dust Bowl of Oklahoma and the Great Depression. That lasted a hell of a lot longer than a month. If you think a month is a long time, then lol. |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:04:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BayEagle: Negative. This is the authoritative source: https://c.tenor.com/6fLNXlo5E3oAAAAC/tenor.gif Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BayEagle: Originally Posted By Riter: It's why I moved out of the big city over a decade ago. No regrats (is that the proper misspelling?). https://c.tenor.com/6fLNXlo5E3oAAAAC/tenor.gif You gotta love the homey-ness of his posts though. Like reading a comfortable pair of slippers. |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:05:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macpherson: The US has enough farmland to feed the entire country and then some. Water filters? LOL yeah let's buy 2 years worth of water filters. This guy made his living in war zones and his advice works there but not so good elsewhere. |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:05:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ClusterNukes: Fuck it, I guess I'll just start eating the surplus population. Thats been my plan all along |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:08:21 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alacran: My ancestors survived the Dust Bowl of Oklahoma and the Great Depression. That lasted a hell of a lot longer than a month. If you think a month is a long time, then lol. Different society now and would be a different situation. |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:08:59 AM EDT
[#15]
I have enough to last long enough for my meds to run out. Then it's game on bitches
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:10:22 AM EDT
[#16]
I buy another 4 pack of butter almost every time I'm at Costco...I'm gonna be fucking rich
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:11:00 AM EDT
[#17]
Hunger is a powerful motivator
I ate cooked rabbit shit and was glad to eat it. It is definitely better warm No I am not joking |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:15:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Different society now and would be a different situation. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: Originally Posted By Alacran: My ancestors survived the Dust Bowl of Oklahoma and the Great Depression. That lasted a hell of a lot longer than a month. If you think a month is a long time, then lol. Different society now and would be a different situation. Very true. My ancestors didn’t feel the need to stockpile ammo, or have the resources to even do so. Besides, anyone who’s been through a training class or two knows that that ammo won’t last as long as they think it will anyway. |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:16:04 AM EDT
[#19]
Still adding to the supplies, but have been adding the borderline expired stuff into our regular meals already. HF is the ultimate BOGO hunter. It’s been a good habit to get into.
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:16:55 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Captain_Rogers: I've read this exact same shit every year for my entire adult life..."the big one coming!" meh, whatever. Nevertheless, It appears to me that we are no longer in Kansas. |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:19:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: azerious58]
[#21]
I'm soo over prepper talk.
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:23:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Kent]
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ClayHollisterTT: Two years? Even if he is right it won’t help. If millions are starving, one way or another, you won’t be sitting on two years of food. Agreed. A fair majority of us can't live in fortified castles or in mountain fortresses 100 miles away from any major civilian concentration, no matter how much we may want to. If we get to the point where there are millions starving in this country (truly starving, not "food insecure"), you'll be burned out of your home. Once you demonstrate there are things in your home worth protecting, you WILL be overrun. My goal isn't to prep to survive a permanent TEOTWAWKI situation, but rather to have enough to make it through shorter, periodic events of smaller scale mob unrest and supply line outages, which are FAR more likely and almost guaranteed to happen sooner. That works out to probably about 2 months worth. |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:28:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azerious58: I'm soo over prepper talk. Then why even read and post in a thread like this? |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:29:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dogsandhogs]
[#24]
What is OGUS? @Alacran
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:30:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Kent]
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alacran: My ancestors survived the Dust Bowl of Oklahoma and the Great Depression. That lasted a hell of a lot longer than a month. If you think a month is a long time, then lol. Mine too -- that "bad time" lasted almost a decade for them. It was my father so he told me of it first-hand, and it sounded HORRIBLE. But -- A) they DIDN'T have hordes of starving people trying to storm their homestead and kill them for supplies, and B) Rule of Law was still in place. Those 2 major factors makes today an entirely different situation from a "how long can you hold out?" perspective. |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:30:50 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alacran: My ancestors survived the Dust Bowl of Oklahoma and the Great Depression. That lasted a hell of a lot longer than a month. If you think a month is a long time, then lol. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alacran: Originally Posted By Er_Mah_Gerd: Originally Posted By Sader762: I have preps, I've been doing so for decades. But you know, after a while, I get sick and tired of hearing the doom and gloom that the entire world societies will completely fall apart. Over the past 50 years we've had multiple "this is the one, get ready! " it's all very tiresome. The world's not gonna collapse, ARFcoms wet dream of lawlessness and fending for yourselves will never happen. I’m going with this. Still hedging my bets but if food and water are difficult to get for more than a month, there ain’t much hope for even the hard of the hard. How long do people make it on the show ‘Alone’? They train for it and make it what? A month or two maybe? The world has ‘ended’ many times over my years. Is this our global warming? My ancestors survived the Dust Bowl of Oklahoma and the Great Depression. That lasted a hell of a lot longer than a month. If you think a month is a long time, then lol. Many before us have lasted long on a little. That was then lol We aren’t anywhere near our ancestors, as much as SOME would like to think. |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:34:36 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mach: Hunger is a powerful motivator I ate cooked rabbit shit and was glad to eat it. It is definitely better warm No I am not joking @Mach Mind sharing the story? More so what led up to that then the actual description of eating the rabbit shit
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:35:03 AM EDT
[#28]
I only have about one year's worth of drygoods.
 Up to ~60 chickens, most are newly hatched. 7 milk goats, unbred, so they aren't milked right now. I need a buck asap. Garden is getting a late start. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:35:41 AM EDT
[#29]
Roaming gangs of killers are a bigger threat than starvation for most people, IMHO.
You don't seem to see as many people starving to death in shit hole countries as you do the numbers of people buried in mass graves or murdered in the streets for their shoes. The well kept neighborhoods will be their next stop right after the Hood, when "they" realize the Law is no longer coming. On their way to the farms, of course. Anarchy probably doesn't lend itself to stockpiles of anything for very long, unless you have sturdy barriers and dozens of people to man the watch. |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:36:15 AM EDT
[#30]
I'm good. I had some Red Hots.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:37:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alacran: My ancestors survived the Dust Bowl of Oklahoma and the Great Depression. That lasted a hell of a lot longer than a month. If you think a month is a long time, then lol. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alacran: Originally Posted By Er_Mah_Gerd: Originally Posted By Sader762: I have preps, I've been doing so for decades. But you know, after a while, I get sick and tired of hearing the doom and gloom that the entire world societies will completely fall apart. Over the past 50 years we've had multiple "this is the one, get ready! " it's all very tiresome. The world's not gonna collapse, ARFcoms wet dream of lawlessness and fending for yourselves will never happen. I’m going with this. Still hedging my bets but if food and water are difficult to get for more than a month, there ain’t much hope for even the hard of the hard. How long do people make it on the show ‘Alone’? They train for it and make it what? A month or two maybe? The world has ‘ended’ many times over my years. Is this our global warming? My ancestors survived the Dust Bowl of Oklahoma and the Great Depression. That lasted a hell of a lot longer than a month. If you think a month is a long time, then lol. Yeah but they were also a lot more familiar with gardening and farming than a vast majority of people, even us here. |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:39:19 AM EDT
[#32]
Game over
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:39:20 AM EDT
[#33]
Really doesn't matter how much food you have if you can't conceal and protect it from roving cannibal gangs.
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:44:28 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dogsandhogs: What is OGUS? @Alacran @dogsandhogs Occupying Government of United States. Sounds like the Biden regime. My estimate: this will not be a two-year famine. Most famines go for roughly two years. The Great PanFaWar is shaping up to be a long hauler. Sometime in 2022, the famines will become obvious. By end of 2023, colossal. These will create enormous HOP: Human Osmotic Pressure to migrate. OGUS — the Occupying Government of United States — is expanding the Darien Pipeline through Darien Gap which can and likely will facilitate millions of Asians, Africans, and South Americans into United States. Europe did similar and suffers for it greatly now. Wrecking entire areas of Europe and causing Europeans to change their way of life. Watching their women get raped. Mass terror attacks. Priest decapitated in church. That sort of thing. Just reality. My currency is reality. https://michaelyon.com/dispatches/2023-2024-will-be-hell-on-earth/ |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:47:47 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sader762: I have preps, I've been doing so for decades. But you know, after a while, I get sick and tired of hearing the doom and gloom that the entire world societies will completely fall apart. Over the past 50 years we've had multiple "this is the one, get ready! " it's all very tiresome. The world's not gonna collapse, ARFcoms wet dream of lawlessness and fending for yourselves will never happen. |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:50:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Kent]
[#36]
A single family unit has no hope to survive OP's scenario, regardless of how many years "preps" they have -- that is just a Prepper's Fantasy. A few persons cannot man the perimeter 24/7 or hope to offer enough firepower to repeatedly repel a horde.
You will need to compound together with many other families to share resources and 24/7 staff the numerous gun nests and patrol the walls. Think mediaeval methods: minimizing the compound's potential attack surface: blocking easy access to the interior using heavily-fortified outer walls, and limiting ingress to a single, fortified entryway. Are you doing that? Neither am I. |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:52:02 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ClusterNukes: Fuck it, I guess I'll just start eating the surplus population. 
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:53:48 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-10: I was standing in the grocery store the other day debating whether to pay $8.00 for bacon or wait till it costs $10.00. We've been doing the stock up thing for 20 years. I think we have food for 6 months and meds are sketchy. Getting through severely hard times for two years is more than we can do. People we take in had better have things to contribute. |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:54:26 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Alacran: Excerpt - If you have not stockpiled at least two years of supplies, just stop what you are doing and get on it. Plant a garden if possible. Get chickens. Learn to fish. Notice I have never sold any of the supplies, and rarely even mention models of pro ducts other than a few like Katadyn water filters, or Berkey, but I make no money from that and have no relationships any companies. People often say that I should set up an online store. But that would undermine the message. If I tell you to stock up and then provide a link, the message is undermined. Most folks smart enough to read my pages have been preparing for a long time. Comparing notes with each other. Searching for holes in their strategies. Some folks even make dry runs by turning off their water and electricity for varying periods in order to find more weaknesses in their plans. Self defense is vital. We’ve seen 911 is a joke. We are our keeper. A grandmother with a little training can throw some serious self defense downrange. Later this year we likely will see various governments within the Unites States starting with price controls and increased subsidies. Governments always do this when they are losing control. These policies will exacerbate situations. OGUS will push to make rationing electronic to gain even more control of every aspect of our existence. All the indicators are there. Stock up thick. The clock is ticking. Conditions are set: 2022 will become serious. 2023 will be a year of starvation in many countries. I do not even see a way out of this. Too much inertia and sabotage. Serious famine creates real pandemic, more war, and HOP — Human Osmotic Pressure — which leads to migrations. https://michaelyon.locals.com/post/2069821/am-jumping-out-the-overton-window-again  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:55:06 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mach: Hunger is a powerful motivator I ate cooked rabbit shit and was glad to eat it. It is definitely better warm No I am not joking 
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:55:18 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Er_Mah_Gerd: Many before us have lasted long on a little. That was then lol We aren’t anywhere near our ancestors, as much as SOME would like to think. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Er_Mah_Gerd: Originally Posted By Alacran: Originally Posted By Er_Mah_Gerd: Originally Posted By Sader762: I have preps, I've been doing so for decades. But you know, after a while, I get sick and tired of hearing the doom and gloom that the entire world societies will completely fall apart. Over the past 50 years we've had multiple "this is the one, get ready! " it's all very tiresome. The world's not gonna collapse, ARFcoms wet dream of lawlessness and fending for yourselves will never happen. I’m going with this. Still hedging my bets but if food and water are difficult to get for more than a month, there ain’t much hope for even the hard of the hard. How long do people make it on the show ‘Alone’? They train for it and make it what? A month or two maybe? The world has ‘ended’ many times over my years. Is this our global warming? My ancestors survived the Dust Bowl of Oklahoma and the Great Depression. That lasted a hell of a lot longer than a month. If you think a month is a long time, then lol. Many before us have lasted long on a little. That was then lol We aren’t anywhere near our ancestors, as much as SOME would like to think. Many, many died during those times, too. I’m not saying all will survive, but I do believe some will survive this. I also believe that not all of those survivors will be the ones with 2+ years of food, guns, & ammo. |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:56:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pallas: This. Have a month of food and you are GTG. I'll eat cats and dogs, then people. You got that out of order. Dogs last. 
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Posted: 5/5/2022 11:57:25 AM EDT
[#43]
We keep 6 months worth of supplies in the garage.
Access to water would be our weakest point here in the desert. I actually do it for my wife and her family. I'd be dead in 6 months without access to my meds. It sucks that the Government won't let you stock-pile drugs. |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 12:02:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alacran: My ancestors survived the Dust Bowl of Oklahoma and the Great Depression. That lasted a hell of a lot longer than a month. If you think a month is a long time, then lol. Who starved in the US? |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 12:03:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azerious58: I'm soo over prepper talk. Me too. It was floofy and stupid, and got in the way of real survivalist talk. |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 12:06:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By QCMGR: Who starved in the US? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By QCMGR: Originally Posted By Alacran: My ancestors survived the Dust Bowl of Oklahoma and the Great Depression. That lasted a hell of a lot longer than a month. If you think a month is a long time, then lol. Who starved in the US? Make sure you understand the history, the ramifications of the Great Depression (what the government did) and the major differences between then and now, prior to opening that can of worms...  Those days the government wanted us all to survive. These days, not so sure. |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 12:06:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kokodude: It sucks that the Government won't let you stock-pile drugs. Yes, yes it does. Can't have that Plavix out there being pushed to schoolchildren on the street, dontchya know.  I've managed to squirrel away a few months worth from accidentally skipped doses and whatnot over the years. |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 12:07:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By QCMGR: Who starved in the US? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By QCMGR: Originally Posted By Alacran: My ancestors survived the Dust Bowl of Oklahoma and the Great Depression. That lasted a hell of a lot longer than a month. If you think a month is a long time, then lol. Who starved in the US? Nobody has or will starve. I’ve volunteered at food banks and food giveaways. The amount of food given away is incredible. |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 12:23:25 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kokodude: We keep 6 months worth of supplies in the garage. Access to water would be our weakest point here in the desert. I actually do it for my wife and her family. I'd be dead in 6 months without access to my meds. It sucks that the Government won't let you stock-pile drugs. Raid people's pools, taking tens or hundreds of gallons from each, and purify the water. Do it in the first week, before they go green. Have chemicals and filters. If you have a pool, guard it and make sure you have chemicals to treat it. And put as much as possible into containers inside in the first week. |
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Posted: 5/5/2022 12:30:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By viralinsurgency: Raid people's pools, taking tens or hundreds of gallons from each, and purify the water. Do it in the first week, before they go green. Have chemicals and filters. If you have a pool, guard it and make sure you have chemicals to treat it. And put as much as possible into containers inside in the first week. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By viralinsurgency: Originally Posted By Kokodude: We keep 6 months worth of supplies in the garage. Access to water would be our weakest point here in the desert. I actually do it for my wife and her family. I'd be dead in 6 months without access to my meds. It sucks that the Government won't let you stock-pile drugs. Raid people's pools, taking tens or hundreds of gallons from each, and purify the water. Do it in the first week, before they go green. Have chemicals and filters. If you have a pool, guard it and make sure you have chemicals to treat it. And put as much as possible into containers inside in the first week. You can buy alot of meds from India depending on what it is. If you talk to your doc and tell him why you want extra meds and rationally present it, I'm sure he'd oblige. |
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