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Posted: 5/22/2001 4:46:16 AM EDT
Personally, I will hide my unregistered guns first (bought many years ago). Then I think I will claim that the others were destroyed in a fire/flood and hacked up and thrown away. They can't prove I have anything. What will you do?
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 4:55:14 AM EDT
I [b]never[/b] keep all my weapons in the same place. Simple as that. If they come for my weapons, and I'm assuming that [b]I[/b] am the [b]first[/b] fellow whose weapons are being confiscated, I will surrender whatever weapons I have at my house. After that, they will never find another weapon that I own. If I'm not the [b]first[/b] fellow whose home is searched for weapons, and I hear that they are coming to people's homes to confiscate weapons, then I'll simply move the weapons from my home, leaving only a 'skeleton crew' of a shotgun and pistol. No need for another WACO, [b]yet![/b] Eric The Hun[>]:)]
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 5:01:55 AM EDT
...simple and true. Well said.
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 5:06:18 AM EDT
Being a CA, I was programmed to had them over freely. [rolleyes]
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 5:08:34 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 5:10:57 AM EDT
kill em
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 5:16:08 AM EDT
Guns what guns? I ain't got no guns I'm po can't afford guns!!
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 5:17:55 AM EDT
You must have the wrong address. Would you like to join Greenpeace?
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 5:18:26 AM EDT
What is the point o hiding your guns from people wishing to strip you of your rights and go against the constuition??If you hide them that day will you hide them the next also?
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 5:20:09 AM EDT
Guns????
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 5:35:33 AM EDT
Sigman, Point being I have admired different guns since I was in diapers. Now that i'm older and responsible I can own them. It took a long time to aquire my collection ( not to mention $$$$$) Therefore I prefer to keep them!!!
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 5:36:13 AM EDT
Scream "FREEDOM" [%(] Sniper out!
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 6:19:30 AM EDT
Come on over and find out!
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 6:26:11 AM EDT
Shed tears as I hand over my "collectors items": Jennings .22 Rossi .38 revolver [>Q][>Q][>Q][>Q]
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 6:29:20 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 6:32:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/22/2001 6:34:50 AM EDT by Goose3201]
Firepower, I think you are missing the point. I believe the point Sigman is trying to make is (if I may) that it is not just a loss of your firearms but a loss of your Constitutional rights. If you choose to hide your weapons and allow the gov.'t to strip away your rights, where will the line be drawn. At what point would you fight for the rights guarenteed you by the Constitution? I am not here to advocate violence but I believe that everyone will fight. Fight for your life, your family, possibly even your rights. The question is will you fight in time? In conjunction with your contigency plans, what part have you played in the lobbying for less restrictive gun laws. Or the strict interpretation and adherence to the Constitution? Or support the organizations that pursue these goals? Not busting your balls, just asking a question to everyone. We should be standing and screaming at the top of our lungs long before it comes to the gov't taking your guns.
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 6:53:07 AM EDT
Very depressing. If it ever comes to the point where the government is going door to door and confiscating guns, then our republic is truly lost. Think about it. Federal agents, with local police and possible military back-up, going up and down streets, throughout America, searching and confiscating. I know for me that that America is one I would not willingly live in.
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 6:58:12 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 7:14:46 AM EDT
If you choose to bury your guns don't use a metal container, they rust very fast. Plastic trash cans leak water. The best method i've seen is taking an oil drum and thickly covering it with roofing pitch so it wont' rust. Oil up your guns, seal the ammo and mags and bury it deep. Wait....do you still have your guns? No, not really. You owned them, the gov banned them, you hid them, now when do you get to shoot them? It also kinda takes away the home-defense plan. Die on your feet for honesty, or live on your knees for conformity?
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 7:32:33 AM EDT
I once had a sure fire plan. I had Clinton and Gore signs in my yard. I signs like this is a gunfree house. My plan was working perfectly until one day my house was broken into and had to pull out the hardware (Assault rifle with beta mag). The moral of this story is The criminals SUED me for false advertising.
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 7:46:58 AM EDT
What makes you think "they" will come for your guns, but leave you there to retrieve the ones you have buried? If "they" come to get your guns, that may be your last stand. BANG or whimper? BANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANG!!!
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 7:47:09 AM EDT
I would hand over my SKS, and other "drop" guns, hiding my pride and joys, and denying everything to the end!!!
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 7:54:22 AM EDT
Don't get me wrong, I love to shoot and enjoy having my guns, but I would not die for them. I'll just stand in line and hand them in with the 90% of the other gun owners who are going to be doing the same. After all it's just a "right" now, and after the Constitution is rewritten by the historical revisionists and re-drafted it won't be a viable item to own. (pleas note this is written TIC)
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 8:02:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/22/2001 8:14:10 AM EDT by MG_ME]
Bad thing is if you bought these guns at a gun shop then they know you still have them. They may drop buy and asked for them. Well my idea is if you can build your own guns then they cannot really take your guns away. I would if a confiscation did take place first they you have all ffl's release there book's then get the easy gun's first, then get a list of gun nuts together; I mean there are about a million of us right this would be difficult at best. [img]http://www.deltaforce.com/catalog/media/C-9236_holmes_VOL4.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.deltaforce.com/catalog/media/C-9278_lil_blk_lwr.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 8:08:39 AM EDT
I once read it put like this: If a bureaucrat, or a soldier sent by a bureaucrat, comes to knock down your door and confiscate your firearms-- kill him. The disarmament of law-abiding citizens is the required precursor to genocide. That's some tight, unassailable language there. Not a wherefore in the place. FMCDH Semper Fidelis Jarhead out.
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 8:22:54 AM EDT
If door to door confiscation starts, I would call the cops. They are the only ones properly trained in situations where the defense of Constitution and Bill of Rights is required. You civilians would be too incompetent to do anything correctly.
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 8:33:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/22/2001 8:35:14 AM EDT by dissipator556]
That's what King George thought too. I would imagine that LEO's would be allowed to keep their personal weapons at home- hmmmm. I see a few things happening in that case, one of which will be a swarm of new police officers [;)], and bunch of dead loyalist cops and gov't thugs, and probably Civil War II.
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 8:39:26 AM EDT
SO THEY CAN "HANDLE" THE SITUATION CORRECTLY? PLEASE. JUST LIKE THE L.A. BANK ROBBERY RIGHT? THAT WAS A 100 VS. 2 SITUATION. IF 100 COPS CAN'T HANDLE 2 GUYS, THEN WTF IS 1 OR 2 GOING TO DO? I'LL TAKE ME, THE AK, AND LUCK OVER SOME COP ANYDAY. COPS ARE GOVT. EMPLOYEE'S ANYWAY. WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU THINKIN CALL THE COPS?
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 8:43:11 AM EDT
Hey, If you REALLY want an M-16 fast- I mean within the next two weeks, then I suggest joining the Marine Corps. You'll have to turn it in after you finish boot camp, but it will be the happiest 13 weeks of your life- trust me...hahhhahaahhaa Semper Fi
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 9:24:27 AM EDT
You people are bashing cops again. The north hollywood bank robbery wasn't stopped as soon as it should have because you civilians were getting in the way of the police. If you would just let them do their jobs, we wouldn't have all of these gun control laws.
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 9:31:39 AM EDT
I sold my guns before they closed the gunshow "loop hole."
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 10:46:35 AM EDT
I'd hand them a big pile of ground up aluminum (possibly from a ground up post ban receiver)and tell them I destroyed my M16 receiver because if I can't have it, the government sure as hell wasn't going to get it. Meanwhile, the real receiver (assembeled and ready to use) would be stored somewhere "safe".
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 11:00:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/22/2001 11:01:25 AM EDT by Josey]
"OUT OF MY COLD DEAD HANDS"[size=4] [-!-!-] [heavy] [sniper] [uzi]
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 11:08:09 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Imbrog|io: You people are bashing cops again. The north hollywood bank robbery wasn't stopped as soon as it should have because you civilians were getting in the way of the police. If you would just let them do their jobs, we wouldn't have all of these gun control laws.
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Imbrog|io, you are my AR15.com hero!![:P]
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 11:08:17 AM EDT
If it happens in CA, and they follow their usual pattern, they will refuse to renew your driver's license until all weapons are accounted for. Loss of your driver's license in this state is akin to the loss of your job. Sure, you can drive without it, but after the 3rd or 4th time you're caught, you can do a fairly long jail sentence. I suppose the best thing to do is that situation is to move (if not sooner). In any case, I see no benefit in announcing what I will do. :)
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 11:28:28 AM EDT
Originally Posted By gunmonkey: What makes you think "they" will come for your guns, but leave you there to retrieve the ones you have buried? If "they" come to get your guns, that may be your last stand. BANG or whimper? BANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANG!!!
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[b]EXACTLY!!![/b] You either stand up when they come for them, or it's Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. [heavy] Come and get 'em!
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 11:53:37 AM EDT
They knock, I open door. They say they want to confiscate my guns. I tell them to leave, and close the door. Days later, similar scenario. I close door, they open it and enter house. I tell them to leave again. They refuse, and storm my house in search. I take one out by hand, and point readied firearm at the other(s). I state they are to leave now, they try to attack me. I shoot, claiming assault, robbery, and maybe ever attempted murder. Courts claim they were gov't employees, and had all right to enter the house. I state I never saw their badges/identification. They state they are supposed to show them to you before entering. I state I didn't give them the opportunity to show any ID, because I closed the door. When the entered the house, they still did not show proper ID. Thus, they were shot for burglary/breaking - entering/assault/etc. I win in court. The "I win" scenario will probably never happen, but being as apathetic as I am, I'm not one to really care. [i]My guns? No, sirs..but would you like some ammunition?[/i] Jewbroni~
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 12:04:25 PM EDT
Remember the oath I took during boot camp about defending the constitution from all enemies, foriegn or DOMESTIC!
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 12:11:45 PM EDT
Matrix Flashback LEO CO; "I think my men can handle one little girl" Agent; "Your men are already dead." Actually I would hand over all mine. Captain Milquetoast.
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 12:20:00 PM EDT
What will I do??? I'll hand 'em over, bullets first!!
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 12:24:47 PM EDT
Bear in mind, before they can "come for your guns" they will have to go through the legislative process as California has with their "assault weapons ban". So there we have a perfect example. Apparently lots of people are waiting for the California authorities to come take them, because a whole bunch of people failed to registers and also failed to turn them in. It will take quite a while before the "door-to-door confiscation" point is reality. The frog needs to be heated some more. [sniper]
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 12:30:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Imbrog|io: If door to door confiscation starts, I would call the cops. They are the only ones properly trained in situations where the defense of Constitution and Bill of Rights is required. You civilians would be too incompetent to do anything correctly.
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He may be joking, but I would make a stand in my jurisdiction. I patrol in Central Ark, and the veteran of several gunfights, and would stand firm in defense of my citizens' right to property-period. They can fire me if they want, and then I will just go underground like everyone else I guess. ron
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 12:38:26 PM EDT
OK Hows this... The president signed the UN Safety and Protection bill today. This is the bill that the Americans have been fighting for 8 years. The bill makes it illegal to own, possess, or transfer any firearm, ammunition, or reloading component without first obtaining proper licenses from the FBI and local UN officer. There is a 30-day grace period to register your firearms and ammunition inventories to the proper UN official at your local law enforcement agency. Five years later… -"All right Mr. Johnson, we've been through this several times before, we know you have an unregistered AR-15 serial number xxxxxx-xxx. It was purchased by you for $674.98 on 5/21/01 in Enterprise Arms Sporting Goods Store. If you don't turn it in you can be arrested and your house, car, and everything else you own will be possessed. If you turn in the weapon now you will only be fined $2,000." [i]-"I'm sorry but I sold that at a gun show prior to the law change."[/i] -"Ok Mr. Johnson you may leave now." -[i]"Haw! I showed Them! If they want my gun they can come and get it…lead first!"[/i] -"Hey John, its Mike over in the Reclamation Dept.…yea that Mr. Johnson from Tulsa I was talking to you about last week…yea, lets do an "out of date car registration" on him. Yea…Tuesday of next week should be fine. I'll tell my supervisor to have the team enter his house when he is at your office arguing about his car registration…"
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 1:03:13 PM EDT
Since I'm the Anti-Christ, they won't be coming to take my guns.
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 1:11:45 PM EDT
I have a better question than what would you do? Why the hell do you have them in the first place? 'Cause were free Americans, dammit, and if you take my guns you're taking my freedom. Like they said, they can pry them from my COLD, DEAD HANDS after stepping over the bodies of the first guys through the door.
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 1:20:48 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Rich314: kill em
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hell yes, acually i would hide my oldens. i would try a false robbery for the rest, if that didnt work FIRE
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 1:21:43 PM EDT
Announcing ones intentions might give them second thoughts as to what price freedom. As soon as we hear of this confiscation stuff, people will get real tight lipped. If they try to take my drivers lisc away then I will fill out a lost/stolen report
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 2:35:42 PM EDT
what can you do? go to war? alone? live to fight another day.
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 2:47:20 PM EDT
[%(]FREEEEEEEEDOOOMMMMMMMMMMMM[%(] [NI] [%(]
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 3:30:55 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GeoffM24: Personally, I will hide my unregistered guns first (bought many years ago). Then I think I will claim that the others were destroyed in a fire/flood and hacked up and thrown away. They can't prove I have anything. What will you do?
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Well, first of all they won't have to prove anything - they'll show up at your door with a list of guns registered to your name (by 4473s they got from gun dealers, and by private citizens you bought them from) and unless you produce either each and every gun on that list or notarized proof of its legal disposition, you and your family will be going to jail. Evidence will be manufactured to back up their trumped-up charges against you (child porn, drugs, etc) and your family members, friends, and co-workers will be threatened with prison if they don't testify against (read: lie about) you. If they [b]really[/b] want your guns, they're not going to let you go because you say "sorry, I sold all mine."
Link Posted: 5/22/2001 5:37:10 PM EDT
Well, let's assume that you can outfox the gun grabbers and keep your collection. Now, what are you going to do with it? Go to the range? There ain't no more ranges. Go out in the back 40 and surreptitiously bust a few caps and worry about the JBT's flying around with their sound detectors on [that's actually not so far fetched...some city's are planning/implementing sound detectors posted on telephone poles around the city that will pinpoint the sound of a gunshot to within a block or two]. So, what are you going to do, just pull your guns out of a hole in the ground once a year and reminisce about the "good old days"?
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