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Link Posted: 8/18/2017 4:05:18 PM EDT
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My school district is bullshit with school supplies.  They request each kid to bring way to much, then pool it so the ones that don't can get theirs for free.  I now have 3 kids in, so I am buying almost one classroom worth.
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Socialism
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 4:07:34 PM EDT
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I knew it was in Texas before even reading the article. 
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Link Posted: 8/18/2017 4:08:22 PM EDT
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90% shitpost, 10% state hate that is an arfcom tradition.

Texans say they're all about freedom, then build a $72million hs stadium with taxes.

I do like Texas, too hot for me to move there though
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Can you explain how you've mentally conflated compulsory taxes for the entertainment of high school children and their mentally retarded parents with freedom?
90% shitpost, 10% state hate that is an arfcom tradition.

Texans say they're all about freedom, then build a $72million hs stadium with taxes.

I do like Texas, too hot for me to move there though
Dude, it's only 97 degrees right now.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 4:08:44 PM EDT
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No.  We have books for all the kids and parents don't have to buy the supplies required to run a classroom because we didn't spend all of our tax dollars on a stadium.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/education

That North Mexican quality of education you got there is showing.
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Texas is so conservative!  We Pennsylvanians should be more like them with our 30.06 signs and epic wastes of tax dollars for football stadiums.

Texans are fucking retarded.  And PA is king of football, btw.  Winningest teams in the entire country are here, first game was played between Jeannette and Latrobe, and we produce more better players and legends than they do.

Enjoy your little dick syndromes!
Your schools must suck more than ours.
No.  We have books for all the kids and parents don't have to buy the supplies required to run a classroom because we didn't spend all of our tax dollars on a stadium.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/education

That North Mexican quality of education you got there is showing.
Yeah PA is higher than Texas but I'm not sure I'd be bragging about #33 out of 50.  I send my kids to private school anyways...
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 4:09:08 PM EDT
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At least my hometown no longer has the most expensive stadium.  I now know how Steve Harvey feels.

Voters chose to build it. These districts are wealthy. No state income taxes. Soaring property values that are doing much better than the stock market.

When Allen Texas built one for about six million Forbes magazine said it was a brilliant move to essentially brand the top and attack wealthy families. They can't build 750,000 $ homes fast enough and high paying industries are relocating there.

There are 6000 high school students in Allen. Recently labeled the sixth best district in the country.

The new stadium was a great investment.

Same can be said for Katy.  Winners act like winners and losers complain about it.
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You mean 60 million. And you left out the part about not being able to use it because to is a POS with cracked concrete.
Still playing in Plano's stadium or is y'all's fixed yet ?
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 4:09:23 PM EDT
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el oh el.  How old are you?
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Texas is so conservative!  We Pennsylvanians should be more like them with our 30.06 signs and epic wastes of tax dollars for football stadiums.

Texans are fucking retarded.  And PA is king of football, btw.  Winningest teams in the entire country are here, first game was played between Jeannette and Latrobe, and we produce more better players and legends than they do.

Enjoy your little dick syndromes!
Evidently not much is spent on English classes in PA.  Sorry about that.
On mobile, working.  Probably making more than your weekly salary today alone.  But hey, I'll give you an A for effort so you can still play on the team.
el oh el.  How old are you?
Probably old enough to have to worry about playing football at Penn State...

But he is right that texans are retarded.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 4:13:02 PM EDT
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That's actually kind of horrifying. I played from the 3rd grade through 12th as an O-lineman. That's a lot of sub-concussive hits over and over again. Makes you wonder if your life would have been any different had you not played.
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Ridiculous  The love affair that this country has with anything football related is truly mind boggling to behold.  It's a fucking children's game and some people seem to worship it.
Plus it makes you stupid.
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That's actually kind of horrifying. I played from the 3rd grade through 12th as an O-lineman. That's a lot of sub-concussive hits over and over again. Makes you wonder if your life would have been any different had you not played.
I doubt that picture came from a football player.  More likely a boxer, or from a person with some other degenerative disease (such as CJD).  With that said, the game is going to continue to change (at every level) due to concussions.  They need to develop better helmets, too.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 4:24:10 PM EDT
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Lol, so edgy
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There should be no high school sports.

You want to play games, get a monopoly board and do it after 3pm.
Lol, so edgy
Edging right into idiocracy.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 4:29:40 PM EDT
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Part of the issue is how Texas does school financing.  IIRC, we are still using a version of the Robin Hood law.  School districts that have more operating funds are forced to remit some of their tax revenue to poorer school distriicts.  The kicker is that payments for capital improvements come off the top-not part of operating funds.  Wealthy districts would rather burn their excess tax revenue on unnecessary capital project than just send the money back to the state.  I live in a small district that was not poor.  Every district like us has been poring money into capital projects.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 4:31:19 PM EDT
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Part of the issue is how Texas does school financing.  IIRC, we are still using a version of the Robin Hood law.  School districts that have more operating funds are forced to remit some of their tax revenue to poorer school distriicts.  The kicker is that payments for capital improvements come off the top-not part of operating funds.  Wealthy districts would rather burn their excess tax revenue on unnecessary capital project than just send the money back to the state.  I live in a small district that was not poor.  Every district like us has been poring money into capital projects.
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I didn't think of that
Good point
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 4:32:23 PM EDT
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None of these stadiums actually make money.  To generate sufficient cash flow to pay the operating costs, maint. costs, and to pay off the construction, you would have to book major acts and sell out the stadium 4 nights a week almost every week of the year.  And, since you can't sell the high mark up items like beer, the ticket prices would have to be real steep for these acts.  

Student tickets are low revenue/discounted seats.  And, that's the bulk of the people on Friday night.  Even the concession revenues are typically given, in part, to the booster groups that provide volunteer workers for the concession stands.        

Now, the stadiums do spin off some income to neighboring businesses.  Sure.  But, that's using everybody's money to build a facility that generates income for a select few like the local pizza and burger joints. Good for the local Chamber of Commerce. Not exactly a good deal for the tax payers.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 4:34:53 PM EDT
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Meh.   Foosball is ok.   It's the public support for what amounts to a past time activity that pisses me off.

Maybe we can get the school district to issue a bond to raise funds for a petting zoo and a bowling alley, too.

argh.   Fuck roads.
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I agree. It seems most of the guys that support crap like this are those who peaked in high school after playing a few years. Its hard to imagine anything sadder than seeing a middle aged guy try to squeeze into his old letterman jacket.

If your ISD is like mine, you can have a day care at the high school.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 4:36:21 PM EDT
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Part of the issue is how Texas does school financing.  IIRC, we are still using a version of the Robin Hood law.  School districts that have more operating funds are forced to remit some of their tax revenue to poorer school distriicts.  The kicker is that payments for capital improvements come off the top-not part of operating funds.  Wealthy districts would rather burn their excess tax revenue on unnecessary capital project than just send the money back to the state.  I live in a small district that was not poor.  Every district like us has been poring money into capital projects.
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Not all of this is accurate, I don't think.  This year, Austin ISD is sending over $400MM to the state as part of recapture, yet Austin still has $1B bond packages which include money for facility upgrades, etc.

Austin ISD Bond Package - 2017

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ETA: AISD's latest bond package includes over $55MM for tech equipment.  Holy shit - they're going to be paying for shitty Dell/Apple equipment for 30 years.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 4:43:17 PM EDT
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here's how this shit happens.   The school board and district hold a referendum vote on this.  They make daaaaamned sure to hold that off season - never on the same day as an actual election.   literally 2% of the population vote.  It passes - it always passes - because all the teachers,  contractors,  and football morons all go and vote for it.

I watched a quarter BILLION dollar budget increase pass in my district using this exact model.   2% of the population voted - that was it.
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You are correct.  I'm watching that same thing go down in my Texas town.  My area is one of the lowest income places in the U.S. but if it passes we will be one of the highest taxed areas in Texas.  People are retarded.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 4:44:41 PM EDT
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Fucking morons
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Dude, it's only 97 degrees right now.
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Bro, that's hot.

My theory is that it is a man made yankee counter-measure, the converse being snow w/ southerners up north.

Give me snow
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 4:56:42 PM EDT
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That money could have been better spent on Public Parks, Highways or whatever. That kind of money on a school football field is immensely irresponsible.
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The guy crying about it has a household income of 150-200k, on a "valued" 200k home, said it increased by 60k, so he has a lot of free equity, and purchased a 140k home.

Boo fucking hoo.
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If he doesn't give a fuck about a childs game, or has no children attending who are using it...he has a legitemate gripe. How about the same tax used for math & science..less TBI, more graduates who are actually able to get a job...
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 5:06:36 PM EDT
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The school admin building in Katy looks like an Ivy League college all on it's own.....
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You mean 60 million. And you left out the part about not being able to use it because to is a POS with cracked concrete.
Still playing in Plano's stadium or is y'all's fixed yet ?
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Been repaired for a while now. Contractor and engineering firm paid for it all since it was 100% their fuck up.
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 5:22:49 PM EDT
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I'd really don't see anything wrong with high property taxes as long as the residents get what they want.
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That is the rub..right there, I don't want to fund any schooling...now I have to fund school sports?
Fucking idiots
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 5:28:55 PM EDT
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Lol, Texas.
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Yep. Sucks here. Stay away!
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 5:57:34 PM EDT
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If they are earning between $150,000-$200,000 a year they shouldn't need to look for a smaller home. They need to spend their money more wisely .
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Like..not on a high school football stadium?
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 5:57:56 PM EDT
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At least my hometown no longer has the most expensive stadium.  I now know how Steve Harvey feels.

Voters chose to build it. These districts are wealthy. No state income taxes. Soaring property values that are doing much better than the stock market.

When Allen Texas built one for about six million Forbes magazine said it was a brilliant move to essentially brand the top and attack wealthy families. They can't build 750,000 $ homes fast enough and high paying industries are relocating there.

There are 6000 high school students in Allen. Recently labeled the sixth best district in the country.

The new stadium was a great investment.

Same can be said for Katy.  Winners act like winners and losers complain about it.
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Bleh. I lived down the street when they built the stadium in Allen and all the shops off 5. Went from a quiet nice town to a generic suburb in no time.


Plus Allen is the only place in the country I've seen 50 year old men still wearing their letter jackets
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Getting out of hand, isn't it?
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Considering the discussion about head injuries, and proof that each injury stays with people during their lives... football, as we know it, is on its way out.  At best, high school will most likely only be flag football throughout all of it.

Are Texans always oblivious to facts?
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Believe me, they are not hurting for money in Katy, as well as many other nicer cities around Houston. 

It's mind boggling how much money changes hands yearly around that area. 
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Yet none for STEM classes,  funny how a child's game is more important
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I'm sure you have an awesome reason why.....
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Maybe because it is A  bullshit waste of money?
Link Posted: 8/18/2017 6:11:48 PM EDT
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None of these stadiums actually make money.  To generate sufficient cash flow to pay the operating costs, maint. costs, and to pay off the construction, you would have to book major acts and sell out the stadium 4 nights a week almost every week of the year.  And, since you can't sell the high mark up items like beer, the ticket prices would have to be real steep for these acts.  

Student tickets are low revenue/discounted seats.  And, that's the bulk of the people on Friday night.  Even the concession revenues are typically given, in part, to the booster groups that provide volunteer workers for the concession stands.        

Now, the stadiums do spin off some income to neighboring businesses.  Sure.  But, that's using everybody's money to build a facility that generates income for a select few like the local pizza and burger joints. Good for the local Chamber of Commerce. Not exactly a good deal for the tax payers.  
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Fucking lol....so the money is better spent on a game..which will eventually give some slight % of their "revenue" back, rather than on something which will educate children...nice spin
Total bullshit though...have fun with your new generation of ditch diggers
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Income taxes wouldn't go towards the local government anyway.
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I pay federal, state, city, and School District income taxes here.  

There are local income taxes.
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Yep. Sucks here. Stay away!
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figured that out a long time ago,
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Stupid.  Wonder if any of the players have the same last name as some of those on the school board?   
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Fucking lol....so the money is better spent on a game..which will eventually give some slight % of their "revenue" back, rather than on something which will educate children...nice spin
Total bullshit though...have fun with your new generation of ditch diggers
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The kids coming out of Allen HS are going to be better prepared to make money than the kids coming out of Ft. Lauderdale, Mike.

Bunch of whining in this thread: "stop spending your money on things I don't like!"
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Been repaired for a while now. Contractor and engineering firm paid for it all since it was 100% their fuck up.
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You mean 60 million. And you left out the part about not being able to use it because to is a POS with cracked concrete.
Still playing in Plano's stadium or is y'all's fixed yet ?
Been repaired for a while now. Contractor and engineering firm paid for it all since it was 100% their fuck up.
Facts aren't important to idiots.  Stadium has been in daily use for years now.  Seems like someone's public education wasn't very good if they make ignorant statements regarding other peoples' property.

But then the biggest criticism of this stuff comes from the biggest losers.
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So, rather than taking out your checkbook yourself, you voted to take other people's money so you kid would have something to do on Friday nights?
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By golly, you are going to support HS football no matter if you like it or not in TX.

They would be screaming communists, FSA, and all manner of other such shit if HS football was not involved and their money was being spent.

Heaven forbid the state would buy land for public hunting or some such. You would hear all about what a bad idea that was I'd bet.
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Bleh. I lived down the street when they built the stadium in Allen and all the shops off 5. Went from a quiet nice town to a generic suburb in no time.


Plus Allen is the only place in the country I've seen 50 year old men still wearing their letter jackets
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At least my hometown no longer has the most expensive stadium.  I now know how Steve Harvey feels.

Voters chose to build it. These districts are wealthy. No state income taxes. Soaring property values that are doing much better than the stock market.

When Allen Texas built one for about six million Forbes magazine said it was a brilliant move to essentially brand the top and attack wealthy families. They can't build 750,000 $ homes fast enough and high paying industries are relocating there.

There are 6000 high school students in Allen. Recently labeled the sixth best district in the country.

The new stadium was a great investment.

Same can be said for Katy.  Winners act like winners and losers complain about it.
Bleh. I lived down the street when they built the stadium in Allen and all the shops off 5. Went from a quiet nice town to a generic suburb in no time.


Plus Allen is the only place in the country I've seen 50 year old men still wearing their letter jackets
Wow!  I go to all the home games and I've never seen what you are talking about.  Allen is anything but generic.
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But yet you only describe th schools as D-1 which is a sports ranking not an academic ranking.

Personally I'm more proud that my school is a top ten school academically than a D-1 school.


It's also nice that when you see alumni from my school on TV they're trying to explain cutting-edge research/ treatments in a way the general public can understand instead of "It was a good game. We won the game be cuz we score more points, if you score more points then you usually win the fame. It was a good game if you work hard and score more points"
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Just to clarify...

I said D-1 because my son will be going to a D-1 school to play baseball.  Baseball only has 11.1/4 scholarships for the entire program so he got into a D-1 school due to his playing ability AND his 4.3 GPA from a Katy High School.
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It's not just the property taxes, which for most wealthy suburban counties is rarely raised (mine says 20 years and this year the tax rate is going down).

It's the assessment where they get us, which can be increased 10% per year.
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They started that shit here. You're not being charged more, you're property is just worth more! And then people think bare land is worth 4 to 5 grand an acre.
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Texans sure take their Football seriously.

 
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Not really.  There's quite a bit to learn from sports.  Take you for example.  A little structure and positive role modeling could have taught you humility and confidence that might have helped with your daddy issues and addiction problems.  Maybe it would have changed your miserable outlook on life and overall negative and abrasive interaction with everyone.  It could have benefited everyone that has to come in contact with you.  But who knows, I guess some people are destined to be that way.
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Texans.

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6k taxes on a 200k valued house? Did I read that correctly ? Lulz
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Yea they also have a house income of 150-200k and have the sell their house to afford the taxes? Something is fucked up with the math their. Sounds like their problem is living outside their means.
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Facts aren't important to idiots.  Stadium has been in daily use for years now.  Seems like someone's public education wasn't very good if they make ignorant statements regarding other peoples' property.

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Well, I attended public and private schools.  And Allen's 60 mil boondoggle stadium was useless and you all were using Plano's stadium.
I don't follow HS football so I'm not up on th details.
That's why I put a "?"When I asked if the stadium had been repaired.

And Allen isn't anything special.  It's a nice place but I like my part of Plano just fine. I've lived in Coral Gables, Sunny Isles
beach, Fl and Fairfield County, Conn.  among others
The Allen McMansion dwellers think they are rich beause many have never seen actual wealth
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Wow!  I go to all the home games and I've never seen what you are talking about.  Allen is anything but generic.
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Driving North on 5 or 75 from Plano to Mckinney you really can't tell the difference between cities anymore. Just tract housing, shopping centers and hospitals.

Well except the giant gaudy stadium on 5
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Can you explain how you've mentally conflated compulsory taxes for the entertainment of high school children and their mentally retarded parents with freedom?
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So what? Freedom ain't free, pal.
Can you explain how you've mentally conflated compulsory taxes for the entertainment of high school children and their mentally retarded parents with freedom?
I am thinking that was sarcasm, at least I hope it was.
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Edging right into idiocracy.
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There should be no high school sports.

You want to play games, get a monopoly board and do it after 3pm.
Lol, so edgy
Edging right into idiocracy.
I am wondering when it became "edgy" not to steal money to pay for the shit you want.
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That money could have been better spent on Public Parks, Highways or whatever. That kind of money on a school football field is immensely irresponsible.
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Or...you know...not stolen in the first place.
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Plus Allen is the only place in the country I've seen 50 year old men still wearing their letter jackets
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That's what happens when CTE reduces your cognitive function to just above Hodor level.
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Well, I attended public and private schools.  And Allen's 60 mil boondoggle stadium was useless and you all were using Plano's stadium.
I don't follow HS football so I'm not up on th details.
That's why I put a "?"When I asked if the stadium had been repaired.

And Allen isn't anything special.  It's a nice place but I like my part of Plano just fine. I've lived in Coral Gables, Sunny Isles
beach, Fl and Fairfield County, Conn.  among others
The Allen McMansion dwellers think they are rich beause many have never seen actual wealth
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Facts aren't important to idiots.  Stadium has been in daily use for years now.  Seems like someone's public education wasn't very good if they make ignorant statements regarding other peoples' property.

But then the biggest criticism of this stuff comes from the biggest losers.
Well, I attended public and private schools.  And Allen's 60 mil boondoggle stadium was useless and you all were using Plano's stadium.
I don't follow HS football so I'm not up on th details.
That's why I put a "?"When I asked if the stadium had been repaired.

And Allen isn't anything special.  It's a nice place but I like my part of Plano just fine. I've lived in Coral Gables, Sunny Isles
beach, Fl and Fairfield County, Conn.  among others
The Allen McMansion dwellers think they are rich beause many have never seen actual wealth
People in Allen think they're rich now?  Same thing we used to say about people in Plano
Link Posted: 8/19/2017 3:49:33 PM EDT
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I'd really don't see anything wrong with high property taxes as long as the residents get what they want.
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All of these stadiums are being built with bond money that was voted on and passed. Don't like, get out the vote and stop it.

My little burg built a very modest stadium seven years ago. It cost 10 million for a turf field, 500 seats on the home side and 250 on the visitors plus a concession stand and restrooms. The citizens voted down a 12 million dollar bond two years before because of the cost. The only difference between the two bonds was a second concession stand plus they took money for a new band hall in the bond that passed.
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Football should have exactly $0.00 spent on it from taxpayer dollars. Fund the program through ticket sales and fundraising, or better yet don't have a program at all. Spend the money on education, because that's what it was stolen at gunpoint for.
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