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Posted: 8/7/2017 9:35:28 PM EDT

Cop Shot by Dropped, Holstered Pistol Sues Gunmaker Sig Sauer

Greg Land, The Connecticut Law Tribune
August 7, 2017 | 0 Comments
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A Stamford police officer has sued gunmaker Sig Sauer over injuries he suffered when his holstered P320 pistol discharged and hit him in the leg after he dropped it in a parking lot.

According to the complaint filed Aug. 4 in the U.S. District Court for the District of Connecticut, officer Vincent Sheperis dropped his holstered department-issued handgun while loading equipment into the back of his car in January. The gun fired when it hit the pavement, and the bullet entered beneath his left knee and lodged to the side "with the round protruding from his leg."

Sheperis, a 34-year-old member of the department's Special Response Team, underwent multiple surgeries and is back on light duty, although more surgeries may be required, according to his attorney, Jeffrey Bagnell of Westport.

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Someone said this would become a problem.

Posted: 8/7/2017 9:36:49 PM EDT

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Yes!

Gaston shall rise!

Posted: 8/7/2017 9:37:13 PM EDT

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You mean someone said this wouldn't be a problem.

Posted: 8/7/2017 9:39:08 PM EDT

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Someone posted at the Sigforum that SIG needed to jump on this before it became a liability concern today.....falls under the heading tooooooo laaaaaaatttttte.

Posted: 8/7/2017 9:44:05 PM EDT

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The bullet didn't exit. Must have been a 9mm.

Posted: 8/7/2017 9:44:49 PM EDT

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You mean someone said this wouldn't be a problem.

Someone posted at the Sigforum that SIG needed to jump on this before it became a liability concern today.....falls under the heading tooooooo laaaaaaatttttte.

We've got members here saying "meh, no biggie. I just won't drop mine."

Posted: 8/7/2017 9:46:12 PM EDT

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You mean that the guys who kept saying that this was all made up by the Glock boys was wrong?

AND there actually is an issue?
Interesting.

Posted: 8/7/2017 9:47:19 PM EDT

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I think you broke the CT Law Tribune.

Posted: 8/7/2017 9:49:20 PM EDT

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We can only hope that someone dies so that glock can get the army contract.

Posted: 8/7/2017 9:50:25 PM EDT

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Looking forward to my new apex trigger they send me for free.....

Posted: 8/7/2017 9:51:14 PM EDT

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Gaston shall rise!

We can only hope that someone dies so that glock can get the army contract.

Still say they should have opted for the M9A1.

Posted: 8/7/2017 9:53:36 PM EDT

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I hope he makes a full recovery.

Posted: 8/7/2017 9:53:44 PM EDT

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This might help Glock win the USMC contract.

Posted: 8/7/2017 9:54:08 PM EDT

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How awesome would it be if Glock takes the army contract due to Sig sucking.

Posted: 8/7/2017 9:56:25 PM EDT

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I can tell you that I was very solidly in the Sig Sauer camp until earlier today.

Posted: 8/7/2017 9:57:46 PM EDT

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Nothing says victory like relying on your opponent failing.

Posted: 8/7/2017 9:59:23 PM EDT

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Yes, they won at being cheaper

Posted: 8/7/2017 9:59:39 PM EDT

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I can tell you that I was very solidly in the Sig Sauer camp until earlier today.

Before the human virus infected SIG leadership I would not even have questioned SIG's win. Then IT happened and the company went downhill.

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:00:34 PM EDT

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The Dallas police angle of this story has been widely covered here. However, the number of pistols is very small......less than 80.

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:01:47 PM EDT

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+1, a huge waste of money in my opinion. If going plastic st least get the VP9..

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:02:21 PM EDT

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It has gone so far beyond that.

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:02:49 PM EDT

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The cognitive dissonance in the other thread is astounding. It's almost like a case study in psychology.

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:07:08 PM EDT

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IN!!!! This shit will be epic, I'm talking L3 Eotech epic...........................Much butthurt to be had and EE shall fill with cheap SIgs looking to sell or trade for G19's.

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:09:31 PM EDT

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I've got close to 8,000 rounds through my 320.

I carry it every day.

I am not going to get rid of it.

I have not lost confidence in it.

I am not going stop carrying it daily.

Would not trade it for a Glock.

Also...if I drop it and it shoots me then I will bear the responsibility.

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:13:25 PM EDT

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I've got close to 8,000 rounds through my 320.

I carry it every day.

I am not going to get rid of it.

I have not lost confidence in it.

I am not going stop carrying it daily.

Would not trade it for a Glock.

Also...if I drop it and it shoots me then I will bear the responsibility.

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The stupidity of the statement "Well just don't drop it" for a service issue pistol that will see combat is beyond me. Some seem to think pistols are only ever on a range or in a safe. In the other thread some DA was saying well in 20 something years I have never seen a Marine drop a pistol or rifle on a range during qualification. Ohh really, your vast range experience obviously does not translate to understanding the realities of combat.

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:16:13 PM EDT

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Its better than the Glock they said. . .

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:17:28 PM EDT

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Someone posted at the Sigforum that SIG needed to jump on this before it became a liability concern today.....falls under the heading tooooooo laaaaaaatttttte.

We've got members here saying "meh, no biggie. I just won't drop mine."

Talk about stupid...

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:18:04 PM EDT

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Sooooo will there be the FDE version back in stock again soon and cheaper?

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:21:02 PM EDT

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If it came out tomorrow Glock, or M&P could fire when dropped I would quit carrying mine. It's a defensive tool. It's not my wife. I don't have to defend it if it turns out its flawed. I'm free to buy or carry another kind of pistol for whatever reason I want without feeling guilty about it.

You choosing to buy or carry a pistol that you find out later flawed is not a personal judgement on you. It doesn't mean YOU are flawed. Hell, even the US Army didn't catch it.

The P320 is an awesome shooting pistol, I almost bought one last week. I probably will buy one when this gets fixed. But saying, "No problem here! I just won't ever drop it! It can come with a manual safety so there ISNT a problem!" Is pure classic cognitive dissonance. It's OK to say, "Damn, yeah that is a problem, hope they fix it soon."

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And it shows.

Guess it takes an extra 100 mil to get a gun that is actually drop safe.

Whoops.

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:23:09 PM EDT

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I've got close to 8,000 rounds through my 320.

I carry it every day.

I am not going to get rid of it.

I have not lost confidence in it.

I am not going stop carrying it daily.

Would not trade it for a Glock.

Also...if I drop it and it shoots me then I will bear the responsibility.

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series 70 1911 users understand your plight.......

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:24:02 PM EDT

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Me too

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:24:08 PM EDT

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Whatever man.
Im not denying guys who have dropped their 320s have gotten them to go bang when they hit the ground.
That isn't going to make me go sell mine or stop using it. And anyone who does is a knee jerking fool who just wanted an excuse to get rid of theirs to begin with.

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They have a "legitimate" excuse of "muh grandpappy's 1911 that he carried in WWII didn't have no firing pin safety, my new Rock Island don't need one neither!"

The P320 has no legitimate excuse, because its only been around for 3 years.

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:26:10 PM EDT

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The stupidity of the statement "Well just don't drop it" for a service issue pistol that will see combat is beyond me. Some seem to think pistols are only ever on a range or in a safe. In the other thread some DA was saying well in 20 something years I have never seen a Marine drop a pistol or rifle on a range during qualification. Ohh really, your vast range experience obviously does not translate to understanding the realities of combat.

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What happens if the soldier takes a round, and drops his pistol? Could be a cns hit drt situation. Not all drops in combat are the result of negligence. Some are the result of combat being messy.

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:27:39 PM EDT

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Whatever man.
Im not denying guys who have dropped their 320s have gotten them to go bang when they hit the ground.
That isn't going to make me go sell mine or stop using it. And anyone who does is a knee jerking fool who just wanted an excuse to get rid of theirs to begin with.

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Whatever man.
Im not denying guys who have dropped their 320s have gotten them to go bang when they hit the ground.
That isn't going to make me go sell mine or stop using it. And anyone who does is a knee jerking fool who just wanted an excuse to get rid of theirs to begin with.

It's a knee jerk reaction to not want to carry a gun that can go off when dropped?

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:27:48 PM EDT

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How does such a professional shoot himself?

Nevabeendonebefo!

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:28:28 PM EDT

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Haha. This is not a problem with Glock.

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:29:20 PM EDT

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Whatever man.
Im not denying guys who have dropped their 320s have gotten them to go bang when they hit the ground.
That isn't going to make me go sell mine or stop using it. And anyone who does is a knee jerking fool who just wanted an excuse to get rid of theirs to begin with.

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The last part is a bullshit manipulation. You can do as you please, but it is fucking stupid to foist your short sightedness and fanboyism on others.

In the era we live in, i am not nor ever will carry a pistol that is not drop safe. It is a very reasonable demand.

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:29:56 PM EDT

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" I'm suing because I'm incompetent and can't maintain positive control of my firearm." - person bring the suit.

Jesus christ. What a fucking retard.

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:30:15 PM EDT

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No mention what holster makers product or what level retention holster this fell out of?

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:30:46 PM EDT

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That was sort of my point. The 1911 design is 106 years old. You accept that going in. Not so with a modern pistol.

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:31:33 PM EDT

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That dumbass pulled the trigger.

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:32:12 PM EDT

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I've got close to 8,000 rounds through my 320.

I carry it every day.

I am not going to get rid of it.

I have not lost confidence in it.

I am not going stop carrying it daily.

Would not trade it for a Glock.

Also...if I drop it and it shoots me then I will bear the responsibility.

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The problem isn't if it hits you, it's if it hits a kid.

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:32:22 PM EDT

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Lurn 2 control your weapon

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:32:25 PM EDT

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You really think Sig's lawyers trust you bubbaing it up by fixing your own recall? You'll get it back a year after it's sent in. LOL

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:32:43 PM EDT

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No, because it doesn't matter. The stupid thing goes off if the slide and beavertail hit the ground at the same time. Moreover, the gun in my locker right now will go off if the slide and beavertail hit the ground at the same time!

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:34:47 PM EDT

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Pistols of modern design should not fire when dropped. Plenty on the market for years already pass this test.

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:34:48 PM EDT

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Do us all a favor and skip the seatbelt the next time you drive. If you're driving defensively like you're supposed to, you'll avoid other driver's mistakes as well.

Posted: 8/7/2017 10:34:53 PM EDT

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