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Link Posted: 7/23/2017 9:53:15 AM EDT
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That's insane.

FBHO was the opposite and libs cheered. This is just more solid evidence the left is mentally I'll and doesn't care about America and it's citizens.

He could personally hand each libfuck a million dollars and they'd still say he's the worst president ever.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 9:53:45 AM EDT
[#2]
Winning...bigly
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 9:54:21 AM EDT
[#3]
FBHO
FHRC

MAGA
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 9:56:34 AM EDT
[#4]
bubble
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 9:56:39 AM EDT
[#5]
We can't let him near the codes.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 9:57:25 AM EDT
[#6]
meh.  market is up but retail is getting massacred by a internet company.  Not sure about other sectors of the economy though but I know brick and mortar retail sucks ass.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 9:58:31 AM EDT
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That's  MY President! MAGA for all, wether they know it or not.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 10:00:23 AM EDT
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http://www.usdebtclock.org/#
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 10:01:39 AM EDT
[#9]
Damn 4 trillion. I knew it was a lot but $4 trillion is unfathomable.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 10:05:32 AM EDT
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Retail stores should not be the backbone of an economy... this is the folly of a service based economic structure.

As new technology comes around peoples shopping methods ans habbits will change, amazon may go broke one day... but people will still buy stuff.

Look at Sears... people still buy stuff...

Brick and mortor will have a place but not for everyday stuff.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 10:05:38 AM EDT
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Ain't seen a damn cent.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 10:08:34 AM EDT
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meh.  market is up but retail is getting massacred by a internet company.  Not sure about other sectors of the economy though but I know brick and mortar retail sucks ass.
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The saddle making business and horse drawn wagon manufacturing are down as well.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 10:09:22 AM EDT
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Unfortunately, those numbers lead me to think the same thing.

It has been nice watching the accounts sky rocket. I expect we will see a market correction in the next year or two. Hopefully it won't hurt to much.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 10:10:35 AM EDT
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meh.  market is up but retail is getting massacred by a internet company.  Not sure about other sectors of the economy though but I know brick and mortar retail sucks ass.
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Brick and mortar that has failed to evolve sucks. There is a little brick and mortar store in my home town that sales only made in Mississippi goods, it's thriving. It was also just selected by Google for its affective use of the internet for sales and marketing.

No one exsist in a vacuum, you've got to adapt
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 10:11:47 AM EDT
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The internet sealed Brick and Mortars fate the day it went on line.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 10:12:46 AM EDT
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yes, no, kinda, maybe....


it's based on a lot of hope, if Trump/repubs can backup what they say it should be more "real" than a bubble.

Of course 87% of stock market shit is BS, or whatever....
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 10:15:56 AM EDT
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Revenue is up, GDP is up.  Those have to improve if we want to turn debt around.

Kill Obamacre, then stop bombing everbody that pisses off McCain and we might be able to right this ship...
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 10:17:50 AM EDT
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Which is a shift in trends overall, and has nothing to do with Trump's policies.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 10:29:13 AM EDT
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Do you have a 401K or IRA?
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 10:37:23 AM EDT
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Attributing this kind of stuff positive or negative to any one President is just fucking retarded.  Correlation of the stock market to the economy health overall is equally fucking retarded.  

The economy is too complex on a national and global level for this kind of attribution.  

Having said that we have seen a significant uptick in capital expenditures and investment by business and significant foreign capital inflows to invest in the US.

The foreign capital inflows on thre private equity side were rising well before the election.  

Certainty plays a bigger role than anything else.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 10:38:13 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/23/2017 10:39:59 AM EDT
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You sound like one of those angry liberals.  Cause that is what they would say.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 10:41:48 AM EDT
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meh.  market is up but retail is getting massacred by a internet company.  Not sure about other sectors of the economy though but I know brick and mortar retail sucks ass.
The saddle making business and horse drawn wagon manufacturing are down as well.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 10:43:08 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/23/2017 10:43:44 AM EDT
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Also, during this presidency, 5 American companies have emerged as global technology leaders. You know their names: Apple, Amazon, Alphabet, Microsoft and Facebook.
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I don't know what Alphabet is, but Apple, Amazon, Microsoft and Facebook were already doing quite well for themselves before his presidency.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 10:44:14 AM EDT
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And how much has our debts and deficit been reduced by? What sectors of government have actually had their budgets slashed, and nother just moved to a different sector of government . How much has government spending actually been reduced.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 10:46:39 AM EDT
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Well the US could have Killary, go another $4+Trillion into debt, and that retail trend would still continue.

What's your point?
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 10:47:05 AM EDT
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I remember that double bottom around the new year/winter.
I was reading that as a reversal and seriously considered taking some short positions, but didn't.
Glad I was wrong. 
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 10:49:53 AM EDT
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These are the important things I wanted him to focus on.  I believe he is working very diligently on the important things that most Americans overlook while they're busy playing activist.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 10:49:54 AM EDT
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And the debt we owe on the $4T is what?
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 10:55:14 AM EDT
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You have to start somewhere, and I think we are all painfully aware of the backlash he will face from establishment Republicans when he does what he can.  Remember, that ball is kind of out of his court because budget bills must originate in the House.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 11:00:12 AM EDT
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It always was going to go in that direction.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 11:02:53 AM EDT
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I don't know what Alphabet is, but Apple, Amazon, Microsoft and Facebook were already doing quite well for themselves before his presidency.
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Alphabet is Google's self-created parent company.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 11:04:17 AM EDT
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I don't know what Alphabet is, but Apple, Amazon, Microsoft and Facebook were already doing quite well for themselves before his presidency.
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Alphabet = Google
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 11:39:26 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/23/2017 11:44:05 AM EDT
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I get real nervous when people make these proclamations 

Taking undo credit for good days means taking undo responibilty for bad days.

Seeming more and more like a bubble


Id prefer a focus on the base. "The stock market keeps climbing, which is great...but we have to MAGA for all/Main Street Americans"
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 11:44:35 AM EDT
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Yearly per capita online spending in the US is still only ~$1200.  Brick and Mortar isn't going anywhere anytime soon.  They're being "disrupted" and having to evolve, but they're not going extinct by a long shot.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 11:47:21 AM EDT
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Nothing, 4T is gains by the market indexes, none of which are based on the Treasury's ballance sheets...

The Fed can go bankrupt for all I care.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 11:48:25 AM EDT
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As I understand it (and maybe this is mentioned in your article - sorry, I didn't read it), he has already eliminated something like 700 federal regulations from FBHO.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 11:48:54 AM EDT
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debt as a percentage of GDP and value is what matters.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 11:50:14 AM EDT
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Just the market returning after the great recession...

http://www.macrotrends.net/1358/dow-jones-industrial-average-last-10-years

Trump's makets are growing because of optimism, when the hell was the last time anyone was optimistic about the US economy?

Gotta belive in the MAGA to MAGA...
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 11:50:30 AM EDT
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Everything else is gravy
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 11:53:24 AM EDT
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I'm inclined to feel this way too.

For me, the last election was about one thing: stopping Hillary, and stopping the all out assault on gun rights that she would have brought to the table, that the left wing has been having wet dreams about for years.

That threat still exists for 2020 and beyond and it always will as long as liberal Marxists remain a force in American politics, but for now, I'm very happy with outcomes regardless of any other factor.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 12:00:51 PM EDT
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So you're telling us that it's amazing what you can accomplish by running the printing presses at the Treasury department non stop?

That's nice.

Except when you do that (QE1, 2, & etc) all that "wealth" that was created comes at the price of a hidden tax called inflation that you and your kids get to pay, and the only reason inflation didn't become hyper inflation in that same time frame is because an enormous number of corporations and individuals sat on that money, and it didn't move, which is reflective of even MORE serious problems beneath the surface.

Thanks for the FBHO propaganda though.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 12:01:07 PM EDT
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Bigly
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 12:03:31 PM EDT
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Damn.    I knew I should have voted for Her.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 12:05:04 PM EDT
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So how does this compare against numbers during the Obama admin when using the exact same metrics?  The article didn't say.  

$4.1T sure sounds impressive, but without some sort of a baseline to compare against, it doesn't paint a complete picture.  It's like saying "I made $100k last year."  That's great if you made $40k the year before, but it has a completely different meaning if you made $300k the year before.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 12:05:23 PM EDT
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Present value of future cash flows, it's not that big of a deal. Not like GDP is up $4T per year or something.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 12:09:16 PM EDT
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One funny thing about that, the market tanked in part because of the house bubble pop, but there was also a major sell off in part due to him winning the election with all his stupid socialism talk.
Link Posted: 7/23/2017 12:11:30 PM EDT
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So you're telling us that it's amazing what you can accomplish by running the printing presses at the Treasury department non stop?

That's nice.

Except when you do that (QE1, 2, & etc) all that "wealth" that was created comes at the price of a hidden tax called inflation that you and your kids get to pay, and the only reason inflation didn't become hyper inflation in that same time frame is because an enormous number of corporations and individuals sat on that money, and it didn't move, which is reflective of even MORE serious problems beneath the surface.

Thanks for the FBHO propaganda though.
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I agree that TARP and QE was bullshit. The bsnks were spared the pain they jsd self inflicted.

But inflation, both real and official has been at historic lows for the last decade... so your point is also bullshit.
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