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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:09:56 AM EDT
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I notice she calls the late fees owed "obscene" - pay your bills cunt.
The late fees will be the first thing they try to duck. Here comes an 60 cent on the dollar principal only "negotiation" for the vendors they owe. . |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:10:42 AM EDT
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Getting desperate running out of rich folk and middle class to tax. Not a mention of cutting free bennies to the FSA I don't think they want another Great Chicago Fire. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:10:57 AM EDT
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Remember when Warren Buffet was complaining that he wasn't taxed enough? Why not have him write the Comptroller a check for a billion or two? Have a couple more billionaire types who are always banging on about progressive bullshit do the same. Put their money where their big mouths are. 
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:12:09 AM EDT
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So when the Chicago teacher's union strikes in the Fall are they going to tell them to pound sand or give them another raise?
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:13:22 AM EDT
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I notice she calls the late fees owed "obscene" - pay your bills cunt. The late fees will be the first thing they try to duck. Here comes an 60 cent on the dollar principal only "negotiation" for the vendors they owe. . |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:14:19 AM EDT
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Mike Madigan should be in jail. He runs the state house; he has his fingerprint on everything ruinous in our state. Why its legal to be a member of our legislature and to be able to represent landowners in appealing the property taxes they must pay to fund his agenda is beyond me. I'm not some pollyanna either; I've been here my whole life and in my job I see what happens when you strike out at the powers that be. He has his legislative district under an iron grip, so I doubt he will lose any upcoming elections. Just a shame. The electorate really is stupid sometimes.
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:14:58 AM EDT
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What a stupid commie. Oh well, commie gonna commie.
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:15:20 AM EDT
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So when the Chicago teacher's union strikes in the Fall are they going to tell them to pound sand or give them another raise? |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:19:43 AM EDT
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Completely amazing.
There was a 5% income tax that went away, which likely provided a good chunk of funding, and the state just kept on spending money. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:22:48 AM EDT
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Other states, take notice.
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:26:16 AM EDT
[#11]
Oprah should do the right thing and bail them out.
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:27:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:Coming soon to a California near you. 
There's 20 states in worse shape between CA and IL but they don't matter. What's keeping CA afloat is massive agricultural and manufacturing that goes on there. Despite the federal governments best efforts, destroying billions of dollars worth of crops, the state is still number one in agriculture revenue by a pretty good factor. Where other states get huge federal funding to support their agriculture business CA gets about 4% of what it should based on revenue. Manufacturers are being driven out of the state daily yet the state continues to be the biggest manufacturer by revenue. With that much business it's easy to throw money at the problem. CA's surplus of a few billion a year gets spent very quickly where more money should be put into their "rainy day" fund. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:29:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:Somebody explain to me how Illinois' situation is any different than the federal gubermint's situation. Illinois not so much. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:31:12 AM EDT
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She is a f...ing genious. "It is just a matter of dollars and cents." WOW! Finally figured out they ran out of everyone else's dollars and cents. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:33:24 AM EDT
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So when the Chicago teacher's union strikes in the Fall are they going to tell them to pound sand or give them another raise? That was easy. The state labor unions always come first. Always. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:34:21 AM EDT
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Other states, take notice. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:35:51 AM EDT
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You want worse?
(that's now 9 years back, but think about it....they're paying less than half of what a private insurer (or in the case of Medicare...probably just over half) pays for the same services...and they're paying $3+ billion a year for that.....). AFARR |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:37:35 AM EDT
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Running out of other people's money are we?
Obvious solution is obvious, raise state income tax to 25% and raise state sales tax to 25%, then they'll be swimming in money. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:39:51 AM EDT
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You want worse? http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/files/2012/07/medicaid-rates.jpg (that's now 9 years back, but think about it....they're paying less than half of what a private insurer (or in the case of Medicare...probably just over half) pays for the same services...and they're paying $3+ billion a year for that.....). AFARR |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:41:52 AM EDT
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I like the city state idea, as long as they don't get any senators. Keep the reps for population but no way could we give each of these places senators.
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:46:41 AM EDT
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I like the city state idea, as long as they don't get any senators. Keep the reps for population but no way could we give each of these places senators. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:47:24 AM EDT
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Illinois has been hosed for years. It's hosed today, tomorrow, will be on Friday and the coming weeks.
The only hope is to clean house in Springfield. Starting with Madigan, his daughter and the rest of them and start over. Pushing Chicago off into Lake Michigan would be incredibly beneficial as well. Or at least make it it's own district that it has to fund on it's own. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:47:50 AM EDT
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Bailout from fed.gov in 3...2... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is the music really going to stop? I didn't think so. Or look at it another way - you live within your means, save for a rainy day, don't spend extravagantly or on luxuries, etc. Your neighbor does not. He gets bailed out and there are no repercussions, and you end up paying for it through higher taxes on your labor and the goods you purchase. How long do you think it will be before everyone says FUCK IT and blows their budget because there are no negative consequences. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:50:46 AM EDT
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 Failed To Load Title Wherein Madigan blames all the financial problems on the Republicans.
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:52:27 AM EDT
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Read between the lines, she's saying massive taxes will be put in place. Like hell any of those programs get cut or even scaled back so bend over IL. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:52:43 AM EDT
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Great, more taxes, I'm sure that will improve the negative growth rate our state has been experiencing for going on four years now. All the folks with income leave, the welfare rats stay and it doesn't matter if you increase tax rates to 100% because nobody left has money, but I bet all the surrounding states are loving the extra productive taxpayers.
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:53:43 AM EDT
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Or you know, you could reform the system like we did across the lake
Our Dems were screaming bloody murder about this. They got steamrolled. Some R's were allowed to vote no for political purposes, which is disappointing. Michigan Pension Reform Bill Passes, Headed to Governor. If the assets in the new system’s pension fund fall below 85 percent of the amount actuaries determine it should have for two years in a row, the system will be closed to new employees. This virtually guarantees that managers of new system won't repeat errors that allowed the old system to fall $29.1 billion behind the amount it should hold.
Under the new system, school employees hired after Feb. 1, 2018, can choose to receive employer contributions to an employee-owned, tax-deferred 401(k) account. Everyone will get an amount equal to 4 percent of salary, and the state will also match up to 3 percent of employee contributions. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:54:23 AM EDT
[#28]
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Getting desperate running out of rich folk and middle class to tax. Not a mention of cutting free bennies to the FSA |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:54:29 AM EDT
[#29]
Where's that Chicago boy obama??
Maybe he could cut his world vacation tour short and be a "State Organizer" and show em how it's done. Fuckin' POS.Fuck Chicago and their leftist bullshit. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:56:18 AM EDT
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Running out of other people's money are we? Obvious solution is obvious, raise state income tax to 25% and raise state sales tax to 25%, then they'll be swimming in money.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 10:59:16 AM EDT
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So, a federal bail out would amount to nothing more than the state bank increasing the states line of credit...thereby increasing the national debt, no? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Somebody explain to me how Illinois' situation is any different than the federal gubermint's situation. Both have spent funds they have no way of paying back...yet they just keep on spending and somebody keeps fronting them more credit. Incidentally, they're 'Illini' and not 'Illinoisians'. I guess you get what you pay for. Same reason Greece, Italy, and Spain have problems when the EU in aggregate can print Euros. Eventually it all falls down by way of wheelbarrows full of cash. Not having a printing press means the states fall first. Nation (or EU) takes a little more time. This is unlikely because, hell why not everyone do it? Stick it to the Feds.  It would be unpopular to the rest of the states, the feds have their own debt issues, it would set an ugly precedent, PDJT dgaf about IL like FBHO did, on an on. Very little in it for the feds to bailout, without even discussing the constitutionality on state and federal levels.
So the state is left with two options. Raise taxes and/or lower expenditures. If the state has a bunch of socialist public industry, they'll go for taxes. If they don't, they lower expenses. Funny thing is, they wouldn't have the problem in the first place without lots of public industry. Budget would be bearable. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 11:08:55 AM EDT
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Jim Fisher thinks they're going to pass a budget he just can't see them shooting themselves that much in the foot, I on the other hand think they will not pass a budget and they will go on and on and on until bankruptcy Let It Burn |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 11:12:18 AM EDT
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Running out of other people's money are we? Obvious solution is obvious, raise state income tax to 25% and raise state sales tax to 25%, then they'll be swimming in money. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 11:20:01 AM EDT
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The can will be kicked diwn the road. Nothing will change. Revisit in 1-2 years. Wash, rinse, repeat. Then blame republicans.
Libtards gonna libtard. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 11:20:09 AM EDT
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Make shitcago a city state. IL would be fine without that city. I feel for the good people in southern IL.... |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 11:28:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw91680YoS4
Wherein Madigan blames all the financial problems on the Republicans. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 11:34:33 AM EDT
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Bless their hearts.
I may halt my keto diet for popcorn this weekend. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 11:40:55 AM EDT
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Some of the things not touched; Politician salaries unemployment EBIT, SNAP, welfare, section 8 housing. Plowing money into universities for any liberal agenda any service provided by a brother in law salaries of ghost employees countless others. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 11:43:59 AM EDT
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I can tell you don't understand how things are run in Illinois. You could raise income, sales, and property tax by 100% each and it wouldn't matter. There must be a law on the books somewhere that states "spending must be 2.5x what income is regardless of income or the tax rate." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Running out of other people's money are we? Obvious solution is obvious, raise state income tax to 25% and raise state sales tax to 25%, then they'll be swimming in money. 
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Posted: 6/29/2017 11:44:12 AM EDT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw91680YoS4
Wherein Madigan blames all the financial problems on the Republicans. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 11:44:37 AM EDT
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Sounds like they are just going to borrow more money, meh.....
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Posted: 6/29/2017 11:44:41 AM EDT
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Isn't IL failing and needing a government bailout what socialism really wants? By-pass the local governments and everyone gets beholden to the fed, cause states rights are bad, no?
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Posted: 6/29/2017 11:45:52 AM EDT
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Sad thin is that Illinois has some really beautiful areas in it and lots of conservative people, its just the shithole's of Chicago and Springfield that ruin the whole state
Make those two areas their own city-state/liberal utopias and the rest of the state will rejoice and be free once again |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 11:46:43 AM EDT
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Damn,they've already done away with sarcasm detectors.
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Posted: 6/29/2017 11:50:05 AM EDT
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Raising taxes only pays to maintain sins from the past, even if they continue without increased spending. I have heard nothing about changing their system to correct past mistakes
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Posted: 6/29/2017 11:54:46 AM EDT
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And my wife wonders why I want to un-ass this Godforsaken state.
If it wasn't for the commute, I'd love to move to NWI(where @mr_camera_man lives) or southern WI. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 11:56:22 AM EDT
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There's 20 states in worse shape between CA and IL but they don't matter. What's keeping CA afloat is massive agricultural and manufacturing that goes on there. Despite the federal governments best efforts, destroying billions of dollars worth of crops, the state is still number one in agriculture revenue by a pretty good factor. Where other states get huge federal funding to support their agriculture business CA gets about 4% of what it should based on revenue. Manufacturers are being driven out of the state daily yet the state continues to be the biggest manufacturer by revenue. With that much business it's easy to throw money at the problem. CA's surplus of a few billion a year gets spent very quickly where more money should be put into their "rainy day" fund. https://www.mercatus.org/statefiscalrankings This has them at 47th. Cali at 44th. |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 12:02:12 PM EDT
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Maybe they can play the HOA game - soak the property owners for their overspending
A "one time" special assessment of 5 to 10% of the assessed property value, due & payable immediately. Don't have it? tough, get a loan on your property! Pay up peasant! . |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 12:10:05 PM EDT
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But the EBT/WIC/gubmint cheese? That's still good.  |
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Posted: 6/29/2017 12:12:35 PM EDT
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I sure hope so, and you should too being in bordering states. If Illinois goes Venezuela, it's going to be like cockroaches when the light turns on. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But the EBT/WIC/gubmint cheese? That's still good. |
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