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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:17:23 PM EDT
[#1]
Stereotype FTW.
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:17:24 PM EDT
[#2]
Makes sense.
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:17:29 PM EDT
[#3]
No more fast and furious for you!
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:17:51 PM EDT
[#4]
Where the hell do you get that much .38 super?
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:18:48 PM EDT
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Where the hell do you get that much .38 super? |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:18:52 PM EDT
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I don't see what law he broke. At least not a US law, which is all ICE should be trying to enforce. Granted, it's probably going to thugs across the border, but we should enforce laws, not assumed intent. |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:18:59 PM EDT
[#7]
Messican Colt won't feed themselves duuuhhhh
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:20:13 PM EDT
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On June 17, 2017, at approximately 2:00 p.m., Homeland Security Investigations…agents received information that 7,000 rounds of Aguila .38 Super ammunition had been purchased in Phoenix by an individual who was driving a dark green Chevrolet Suburban,” wrote ATF Special Agent Robert Kilcoyne in a criminal complaint.
Cool so 7k in ammo triggers a federal investigation? |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:20:51 PM EDT
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Mexico bans military calibers so .38 super is popular there
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:21:35 PM EDT
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I don't see what law he broke. At least not a US law, which is all ICE should be trying to enforce. Granted, it's probably going to thugs across the border, but we should enforce laws, not assumed intent. |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:22:17 PM EDT
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I don't see what law he broke. At least not a US law, which is all ICE should be trying to enforce. Granted, it's probably going to thugs across the border, but we should enforce laws, not assumed intent. 
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:22:25 PM EDT
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On June 17, 2017, at approximately 2:00 p.m., Homeland Security Investigations…agents received information that 7,000 rounds of Aguila .38 Super ammunition had been purchased in Phoenix by an individual who was driving a dark green Chevrolet Suburban,” wrote ATF Special Agent Robert Kilcoyne in a criminal complaint. Cool so 7k in ammo triggers a federal investigation? |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:22:45 PM EDT
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I had a llama 1911 chambered in 38 super, one of the very few guns I regret selling
I got rid of it because of ammo availability, this was like 15 years ago or so, guess I never thought of going to meheeco for ammo. |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:23:14 PM EDT
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I didn't know that USPSA Open Division was that big in Mexico.
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:23:59 PM EDT
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I'm guessing in a border state it does. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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On June 17, 2017, at approximately 2:00 p.m., Homeland Security Investigations…agents received information that 7,000 rounds of Aguila .38 Super ammunition had been purchased in Phoenix by an individual who was driving a dark green Chevrolet Suburban,” wrote ATF Special Agent Robert Kilcoyne in a criminal complaint. Cool so 7k in ammo triggers a federal investigation? If he'd driven off in a Miata, no one would have made a peep. |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:24:24 PM EDT
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The ATF is just mad that someone is trying to cut in on their business.
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:24:53 PM EDT
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I don't see what law he broke. At least not a US law, which is all ICE should be trying to enforce. Granted, it's probably going to thugs across the border, but we should enforce laws, not assumed intent. Quote HistoryQuoted:
I don't see what law he broke. At least not a US law, which is all ICE should be trying to enforce. Granted, it's probably going to thugs across the border, but we should enforce laws, not assumed intent. |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:25:05 PM EDT
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22 CFR 123.17 - Exports of firearms, ammunition, and personal protective gear. |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:25:16 PM EDT
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Mexico bans military calibers so .38 super is popular there |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:25:36 PM EDT
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Something "smells fishy," I think the media has left out some very important details. The ammo is legal on both sides of the border.
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:27:19 PM EDT
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The dark green suburban didn't help either... If he'd driven off in a Miata, no one would have made a peep. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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On June 17, 2017, at approximately 2:00 p.m., Homeland Security Investigations…agents received information that 7,000 rounds of Aguila .38 Super ammunition had been purchased in Phoenix by an individual who was driving a dark green Chevrolet Suburban,” wrote ATF Special Agent Robert Kilcoyne in a criminal complaint. Cool so 7k in ammo triggers a federal investigation? If he'd driven off in a Miata, no one would have made a peep. 
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:27:49 PM EDT
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Something "smells fishy," I think the media has left out some very important details. The ammo is legal on both sides of the border. |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:30:04 PM EDT
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I think .38 Super is an interesting round. Never fired one, but I do have one cartridge in my ammo collection. I wouldnt not own one if I came across a good deal on one, if that makes sense. It reminds me of a 9mm magnum.
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:36:50 PM EDT
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I think .38 Super is an interesting round. Never fired one, but I do have one cartridge in my ammo collection. I wouldnt not own one if I came across a good deal on one, if that makes sense. It reminds me of a 9mm magnum. |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:43:15 PM EDT
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I think .38 Super is an interesting round. Never fired one, but I do have one cartridge in my ammo collection. I wouldnt not own one if I came across a good deal on one, if that makes sense. It reminds me of a 9mm magnum. Sorta like a .357 Sig, but less modern. |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:47:35 PM EDT
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Stereotype FTW. |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:47:45 PM EDT
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I didn't know that USPSA Open Division was that big in Mexico. |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:47:46 PM EDT
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.38 Super was carried in the South West for many years.
You can see some really nice Colt .38 Super 1911's at the Texas Ranger Museum in Waco. |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:48:58 PM EDT
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Wait... they were smuggling Aguila ammo *into* Mexico?
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:49:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:52:02 PM EDT
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Wait... they were smuggling Aguila ammo *into* Mexico? |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:52:46 PM EDT
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I should have known we would have a law for that. Silly me, thinking we had a 'free' society. our troops in their country or have those people use those arms against our Border Patrol and other Citizens like they did during Fast and Furious. |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:54:14 PM EDT
[#33]
Mexican drug lords want to role play late 70s ipsc?
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:55:17 PM EDT
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I'm guessing in a border state it does. |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:56:53 PM EDT
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This, it's not illegal for non-citizens to buy ammo. |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:59:26 PM EDT
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Nope. I buy lowers constantly, even after that retarded EO from Obama that said three within a year. My guess is that the shop owner tipped them off, kind of like that snackbar fellow who bought a load of powder a few years back. |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 2:59:48 PM EDT
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I don't see what law he broke. At least not a US law, which is all ICE should be trying to enforce. Granted, it's probably going to thugs across the border, but we should enforce laws, not assumed intent. Quote HistoryQuoted:
I don't see what law he broke. At least not a US law, which is all ICE should be trying to enforce. Granted, it's probably going to thugs across the border, but we should enforce laws, not assumed intent. Quoted:
Cool so 7k in ammo triggers a federal investigation? Quoted:
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I think .38 Super is an interesting round. Never fired one, but I do have one cartridge in my ammo collection. I wouldnt not own one if I came across a good deal on one, if that makes sense. It reminds me of a 9mm magnum. |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 3:00:29 PM EDT
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<MSM> This poor undocumented dreamer was racially profiled due to his choice in caliber. </MSM>
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Posted: 6/28/2017 3:00:36 PM EDT
[#39]
Not Illegal to buy the ammo. Just gives reasonable suspicion.
Try to cross the border and your toast. |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 3:01:30 PM EDT
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Mexican drug lords want to role play late 70s ipsc? I miss those guns. |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 3:02:17 PM EDT
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Fucking Open Division shooters...
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Posted: 6/28/2017 3:04:31 PM EDT
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ITAR controlled item I guess? I talked to a few old timers at the Walmart in WA and they said that ever since ITAR came into place, they lost a ton of business in terms of ammo sales.
I guess it has it's good and bad. |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 3:05:18 PM EDT
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The I Rony of a Mexican smuggling Mexican made ammo into Mexico is ironic. |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 3:06:35 PM EDT
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Mexico bans "military calibers," so .38 Super is a natural alternative.
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Posted: 6/28/2017 3:09:07 PM EDT
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Sorta like a .357 Sig, but less modern. Late 20s and early 30s had pushed the cartridges to to test the limits of what could be done with a non-jacketed round. |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 3:11:04 PM EDT
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I always thought it was interesting also. When I was first getting into guns, I went to a gun shop hoping to order a kimber custom II in .38 super, the employees looked at me like I was crazy and talked me out of it. Oh well 
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Posted: 6/28/2017 3:12:15 PM EDT
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I don't see what law he broke.  At least not a US law, which is all ICE should be trying to enforce. Granted, it's probably going to thugs across the border, but we should enforce laws, not assumed intent.Quote HistoryQuoted:
I don't see what law he broke. At least not a US law, which is all ICE should be trying to enforce. Granted, it's probably going to thugs across the border, but we should enforce laws, not assumed intent.
That's because you obviously didn't read the article and click the link to the affidavit for warrant of arrest.  The law that he broke, which by the way IS A US LAW (contrary to what you wrote ) is:
18 U.S. Code § 554 - Smuggling goods from the United States (a) In General.— Whoever fraudulently or knowingly exports or sends from the United States, or attempts to export or send from the United States, any merchandise, article, or object contrary to any law or regulation of the United States, or receives, conceals, buys, sells, or in any manner facilitates the transportation, concealment, or sale of such merchandise, article or object, prior to exportation, knowing the same to be intended for exportation contrary to any law or regulation of the United States, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both. So, ICE/HSI is enforcing US law. |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 3:13:27 PM EDT
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Sorta like a .357 Sig, but less modern. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think .38 Super is an interesting round. Never fired one, but I do have one cartridge in my ammo collection. I wouldnt not own one if I came across a good deal on one, if that makes sense. It reminds me of a 9mm magnum. |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 3:13:46 PM EDT
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ITAR controlled item I guess? I talked to a few old timers at the Walmart in WA and they said that ever since ITAR came into place, they lost a ton of business in terms of ammo sales. I guess it has it's good and bad. |
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Posted: 6/28/2017 3:15:43 PM EDT
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It was for them ghost guns out of the Philippines.
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