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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:12:39 AM EDT
[#1]
I don't have a shield.
I would really like to get into the Kahr game but just about everything I read says it's a 50/50 shot on whether you get a good one or a lemon. |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:20:03 AM EDT
[#2]
Nah. Learned my M&P lesson with V1. No amount of marketing will convince me the new ones are improved in any way. Can spin it any which way they want but the plummeting price point speaks volumes to me.
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:20:51 AM EDT
[#3]
The CM series Kahr I had was an unreliable POS, while both of the Shields functioned well.....so there is that
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:22:24 AM EDT
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I don't have a shield. I would really like to get into the Kahr game but just about everything I read says it's a 50/50 shot on whether you get a good one or a lemon. |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:22:39 AM EDT
[#5]
I had a Shield and it rusted so terribly in my pocket I had to ditch it.
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:23:15 AM EDT
[#6]
I have a sig 938 and a Glock 43 and a S&W 3913. I'm also doing fine on trunk guns tackle box guns toilet tank guns cookie jar guns and shower guns.
So even though I'm tempered "just because". I have not jumped on the shield. |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:23:15 AM EDT
[#7]
Why are shield so cheap all of the sudden? Reasoning behind it?
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:23:50 AM EDT
[#8]
I got one.
I didn't have another small, small caliber gun to carry. And its cheap enough that I won't miss it if it needs to serve another purpose. 
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:24:36 AM EDT
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Nope, still haven't bought one. Yes they are at a great price for the pistol but then I'd have to add in a set of Hackathorn sights, Apex parts bits and pieces, add in a holster, then 10 spare mags. Now that, great price on the pistol just went up a bit.
All for a pistol that I'd still need to carry in a holster versus just dropping it in a pocket. And if I'm carrying a holster, why not just carry my full size M&P instead. Semper Fi |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:24:37 AM EDT
[#10]
Gym007 claims he not only has a gun but that his shield rusted into an unusuable blob
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:25:58 AM EDT
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I have a sig 938 and a Glock 43 and a S&W 3913. I'm also doing fine on trunk guns tackle box guns toilet tank guns cookie jar guns and shower guns. So even though I'm tempered "just because". I have not jumped on the shield. |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:26:48 AM EDT
[#12]
Shield = single stack Sigma dressed in drag
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:28:47 AM EDT
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Gym007 claims he not only has a gun but that his shield rusted into an unusuable blob 
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:29:16 AM EDT
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I'm a luddite, I'll keep my snubbies and speedloaders.
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:31:07 AM EDT
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I'm a luddite, I'll keep my snubbies and speedloaders. |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:32:35 AM EDT
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Nah. Learned my M&P lesson with V1. No amount of marketing will convince me the new ones are improved in any way. Can spin it any which way they want but the plummeting price point speaks volumes to me. Glock over charges you probably 150%. Caveat, I have no background in business and base all of this off of reading a book. |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:32:58 AM EDT
[#17]
I have owned the Shield, PM9, CM9 & G43...
I currently have 2 G43s... the others I sold off because they sucked in one way or anther... |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:33:22 AM EDT
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Dead man walking Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm a luddite, I'll keep my snubbies and speedloaders. 
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:33:51 AM EDT
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Gym007 claims he not only has a gun but that his shield rusted into an unusuable blob I was constantly cleaning rust spots/reoiling. One day I came in from gardening and was getting into the shower and I realized I had a massive brown splotch on my waist. Since I was reasonably sure I hadn't shit myself, I check my pocket and the Shield had rusted horribly, and even stained my pocket. ETA: spelling
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:38:34 AM EDT
[#20]
I would have if the California version had ever come up for sale.
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:39:35 AM EDT
[#21]
I picked up a Walther PPS m2 instead. Sure it was more, but seems to be a higher quality gun, and the $100 rebate is icing on the cake.
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:39:42 AM EDT
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No. There are other guns way before a potential rust pile in my plans.
Especially with lowered AR prices now. Or maybe I'll just get the Beretta SxS Double Rifle that I would never use .
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:40:09 AM EDT
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My Shield did. I was constantly cleaning rust spots/reoiling. One day I came in from gardening and was getting into the shower and I realized I had a massive brown splotch on my waste. Since I was reasonably sure I hadn't shit myself, I check my pocket and the Shield had rusted horribly, and even stained my pocket. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Gym007 claims he not only has a gun but that his shield rusted into an unusuable blob I was constantly cleaning rust spots/reoiling. One day I came in from gardening and was getting into the shower and I realized I had a massive brown splotch on my waste. Since I was reasonably sure I hadn't shit myself, I check my pocket and the Shield had rusted horribly, and even stained my pocket. So that's what the manufacturers give them now. Cheap plastic guns, in various flavors of the month. Yippee yippee! Disclaimer: Not saying all polymer guns are cheap junk - but a LOT of them are. |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:41:35 AM EDT
[#24]
The Shield is a single stack variation of the M&P series, whereas the actually Sigmas copied the Glocks mechanically to the point that Glock sued and was awarded damages including royalties, for copyright infringement.
The shield is not my cup of tea but my wife and I own M&Ps that have been excellent for 10 years. I'm not a fan of plastic pistols to begin with. |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:41:51 AM EDT
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My Shield did. I was constantly cleaning rust spots/reoiling. One day I came in from gardening and was getting into the shower and I realized I had a massive brown splotch on my WASTE. Since I was reasonably sure I hadn't shit myself, I check my pocket and the Shield had rusted horribly, and even stained my pocket. 
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:42:48 AM EDT
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Why are shield so cheap all of the sudden? Reasoning behind it? |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:43:39 AM EDT
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Glock 43- so no
Actually moved from the CM9 to the 43 for one simple reason, trigger consistency between platforms. Kahr was the only gun with a trigger like that I owned, required lots more practice to remain proficient. Otherwise, my cm9 excellent, zero failures and carried 24/7 for 3yrs. I foresee a bunch of "my shield ....." threads in the future. |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:44:29 AM EDT
[#28]
Did not buy one, do not have one.
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:48:54 AM EDT
[#29]
I've owned several Kahrs, they're awful. Tiger is smoother, but long and weird.
Sights are stupid, just put 3 dots on. The shield is a tight gun, works well, easier to grip and shoot. I won't buy another Kahr. |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:52:35 AM EDT
[#30]
Have a G43 and a few snubs.
Didn't buy one. ALMOST drunk bought one on a Saturday night, but couldn't do it. I carry full-size pistols anyway. Thought about the 45, just couldn't do it. Need to finish my Grendel build, and that $200 would do better things there. Plus, I realized that a G29 in 9x25 would scratch a smaller gun itch way better than a Shield. |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:55:13 AM EDT
[#31]
Nah.
Had one and sold it. Plus I can get a G43 for around the same price normally. |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:56:07 AM EDT
[#32]
Call me odd duck then...
I have liked the M&P 9s I bought. But I did want & need something smaller and thinner to carry at work. The Shield has performed great so far. As far as concern about rust, I pull it from the holster & wipe it down & give it a little spritz of oil once a week and it still looks like new. You can and will damage any gun if you get it wet and leave it sitting (glock included) For the money spent, it has been a great value. My two have been 101% reliable, accurate and carry concealed easy... I have less than $225 total in each (including FFL Transfer fee) so I'm a double happy camper! |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:58:31 AM EDT
[#33]
I've got a Shield, a Kahr 380, and a Glock 43. I like the shield but it rusts easily. My Kahr has been flawless and while I'm not a Glock guy I do like my 43 after I've put a new trigger, connector, and night sights on it. Not exactly an inexpensive gun after all that.
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Posted: 6/27/2017 6:58:35 AM EDT
[#34]
I've thought about it, but my old Glock 19 seems to do everything I'd want a Shield to do.
For pocket carry I've got a Kel-Tec .32, a little Beretta .32 tip-up, and a Scandium snubby .357. |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 7:01:52 AM EDT
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Did not buy one, do not have one. |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 7:01:54 AM EDT
[#36]
Nope, I already have a Glock 43. If not for that I would've totally jumped on the Shield bandwagon.
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Posted: 6/27/2017 7:05:41 AM EDT
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I would have if the California version had ever come up for sale. https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/132720/187021/smith-and-wesson-mp9-shield-9mm-pistol-(ca-compliant) |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 7:06:39 AM EDT
[#38]
I prefer my P938.
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Posted: 6/27/2017 7:08:38 AM EDT
[#39]
I bought all 3 calibers before the "big deal". I really like them all.
ETA I am left handed and the only "rust" problem I have had is the little barcode thing on the right side. |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 7:10:45 AM EDT
[#40]
I rusted the mag release shut on mine. Decided to go Glock.
I was/am still tempted to at that price. Daughter may use it someday. |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 7:11:59 AM EDT
[#41]
the smallest gun I carry is a g19.
You can keep your singlestacks |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 7:14:42 AM EDT
[#42]
Nope, I pefer a g43
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Posted: 6/27/2017 7:15:39 AM EDT
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Sportsman outdoor super center. Looks like all models. https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/132720/187021/smith-and-wesson-mp9-shield-9mm-pistol-(ca-compliant) |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 7:16:29 AM EDT
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I rusted the mag release shut on mine. Decided to go Glock. I was/am still tempted to at that price. Daughter may use it someday.
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Posted: 6/27/2017 7:17:30 AM EDT
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Can spin it any which way they want but the plummeting price point speaks volumes to me. |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 7:18:40 AM EDT
[#46]
I jumped in years ago when they first came out. I put an Apex trigger in mine, and then went with a Big Dot sight system. Holy shit, S&W really presses those sights in. It was tearing up my sight pusher just getting those sights out.
On May 20th, I was at PSA, so I bought one in 45ACP and absolutely LOVE it. The stippling on the 45 is better and this pistol feels even better than my original 9mm Shield. The magazines however were a bear to load. Getting the last 2 rounds in each of them (45ACP version) took an act of Congress. The springs have settled since, and it's not as bad. The gun feels good, looks good, and is cheap. I like it very much. |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 7:19:36 AM EDT
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I jumped in years ago when they first came out. I put an Apex trigger in mine, and then went with a Big Dot sight system. Holy shit, S&W really presses those sights in. It was tearing up my sight pusher just getting those sights out. On May 20th, I was at PSA, so I bought one in 45ACP and absolutely LOVE it. The stippling on the 45 is better and this pistol feels even better than my original 9mm Shield. The magazines however were a bear to load. Getting the last 2 rounds in each of them (45ACP version) took an act of Congress. The springs have settled since, and it's not as bad. The gun feels good, looks good, and is cheap. I like it very much. It's probably best I don't have the ability to actually go to PSA
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Posted: 6/27/2017 7:20:16 AM EDT
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I've owned several Kahrs, they're awful. Tiger is smoother, but long and weird. Sights are stupid, just put 3 dots on. The shield is a tight gun, works well, easier to grip and shoot. I won't buy another Kahr. Thread needs more Shield love!  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/27/2017 7:20:17 AM EDT
[#49]
I can get Glocks at a decent price, even if I couldn't I would still go with Glock for my plastic handguns.
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Posted: 6/27/2017 7:20:43 AM EDT
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Nah. Had one and sold it. Plus I can get a G43 for around the same price normally. |
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