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Breyer turns 79 in August. He's no spring chicken either. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Yeah, no kidding, all the social conservatives causing Hillary to win the last election.....Oh wait View Quote Trump is not a social conservative. He is more along the lines of a fiscal/legal conservative. He made a point of not getting hemmed up in the abortion debate, saying it was a states rights issue and leaving it at that. |
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Wouldn't there have to be a case with some sort of legal standing be submitted to the court for there to even be a chance for Roe to be overturned? What legal standing could one use to bring such a case? View Quote |
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Then conservatives shit the bed by fulfilling their fears. Abortion is to the left what gun control is to the right. They will dig in and fight it tooth and nail to the bitter end. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Roe v Wade was settled in the early 70's. Kennedy was confirmed in the late 1980's..why the talk about Roe vs Wade with him? |
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Uhm...... Trump is not a social conservative. He is more along the lines of a fiscal/legal conservative. He made a point of not getting hemmed up in the abortion debate, saying it was a states rights issue and leaving it at that. View Quote I am simply agreeing with those members stating such facts.....oh, wait |
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Even if Kennedy was another Scalia, simply getting to replace him with a much younger conservative would be a huge win. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The Latin phrase is "stare decisis." It is a principle of giving deference to prior opinions, but there are numerous examples of the Court overturning prior decisions. Once a decision is rendered it is not thereafter forever engraved in stone. See, for example, Plessy v. Ferguson and Brown v. Board of Education. Kennedy leaving isn't a huge win in my mind. The vast majority of the time he casts his vote against government restrictions. Some call him left-leaning because when he applies this to things like gay marriage he says government shouldn't be able to restrict two consenting adults from calling themselves married and, therefore, if the state is going to recognize marriages it has to recognize them all. But he also was on the pro-gun side in Heller and McDonald, he votes for limiting search and seizure, is dubious of government overreach in things like environmental protection regulations, riled the "liberals" by voting against government restrictions on speech in Citizens United, etc. Edit: I can't think this morning. |
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Now is not the time for moderation nor "reaching across the aisle". We must strike while the iron is hot and save the Republic as we once knew it. Pack the court very red for very long. If Rice isn't part of the swamp she's had a good bit of swamp water splashed on her. No more half measures, damn the torpedoes full speed ahead for Gorsuch 2.0. View Quote Elections have consequences, and Trump won. They are already calling Trump a monster and making him suffer in public opinion for it, he might as well behave like one; what's to lose, they might say he's a bad man?. |
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The Latin phrase is "stare decisis." It is a principle of giving deference to prior opinions, but there are numerous examples of the Court overturning prior decisions. Once a decision is rendered it is not thereafter forever engraved in stone. See, for example, Plessy v. Ferguson and Brown v. Board of Education. Kennedy leaving isn't a huge win in my mind. The vast majority of the time he casts his vote against government restrictions. Some call him left-leaning because when he applies this to things like gay marriage he says government shouldn't be able to restrict two consenting adults from calling themselves married and, therefore, if the state is going to recognize marriages it has to recognize them all. But he also was on the pro-gun side in Heller and McDonald, he votes for limiting search and seizure, is dubious of government overreach in things like environmental protection regulations, riled the "liberals" by voting against government restrictions on speech in Citizens United, etc. Edit: I can't think this morning. View Quote It's great he's retiring on Trumps watch. I hope he is replaced by a more conservative ("textualist") jurist, but at least he won't be replaced by a bat s--t crazy leftist. Ginsburg.... her replacement will make for a huge improvement. |
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I'm not sacrificing my principles, those are my principles. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Maybe this time he'll pick someone who isn't ambivalent to the 2nd amendment.
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There is a Latin term which I can't remember but it basically means let the decision stand and it's a principle that the SCOTUS works under. Essentially it is intended to make sure that future SCOTUS sessions don't reverse standing decisions. The only way that Row v Wade could be imapacted--see that I didn't say reversed--would be for new cases to come along that chip away at the edges. But as I understand it, abortion will always be legal due to Roe v Wade. There will never be a time when abortions will be illegal in America again. That's how I remember constitutional law from college because we discussed this very case. View Quote |
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I got an erection when I read this thread title.
Is that weird? MAGA |
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Ginsberg will cling to power until death takes her if Kennedy retires.
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This is why I voted for el trumpo. The Supreme Court picks. Can you imagine if killary had one? The country would be dead in a generation. Hell there'd probably be a couple of justices "commit suicide" so she could've made some appointments.
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1. Liberals will go nuts to a whole new level because of this.
2. Is Peruta still hanging out there? If Peruta was heard by the SCOTUS and Trump gets to appoint a new justice in time to hear it, that could be HUGE. |
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I hope we stack the court, but it better not touch abortion shit. I'd like to win another election in the next 50 years, but dumbfuck Social Conservatives, who define themselves solely on such social matters because economics and voting trends are hard, love to ruin everything. View Quote |
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To get the base all riled up over "keep your laws off my body!" and "my body, my choice!" The liberal obsession with the right to commit infanticide is truly sick. View Quote |
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We need to let go of the abortion thing.
It isn't changing. It hurts the rest of our cause. We lost one. Get over it. Move on. Focus on the future battles. |
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If it keeps them from breeding children with their world views I don't care. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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It always about abortion with these people, amazing how much they love killing babies.
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Uhm...... Trump is not a social conservative. He is more along the lines of a fiscal/legal conservative. He made a point of not getting hemmed up in the abortion debate, saying it was a states rights issue and leaving it at that. View Quote |
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Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake. It's a mistake from an accountability-to-deity perspective if people choose to believe that as well. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If it keeps them from breeding children with their world views I don't care. I would say the under reported group would be affluent white suburban women who have the most to lose professionaly and socially by admitting to having an abortion. |
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lol they're not reversing Roe vs Wade. View Quote I honestly wouldn't be surprised to hear some on the right call for a conservative, pro-abortion pick as Kennedy's replacement. |
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Sure go after Roe V Wade and lose half the women's vote and hand it all back to the Dems before we can even make a dent in reversing what they have done to this nation.
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1. Liberals will go nuts to a whole new level because of this. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes 2. Is Peruta still hanging out there? If Peruta was heard by the SCOTUS and Trump gets to appoint a new justice in time to hear it, that could be HUGE. |
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Load the court with sensible conservatives that care about the constitution. This is no time to cater to Liberal Progressive Democrats. They are the enemy. Never forget that.
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lol they're not reversing Roe vs Wade. View Quote |
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