Your concern warms my heart.

Which form of tyranny am I supporting, just out of curiosity?

The bank robbery was 4 days prior. Also wasn't it reported immediately after the shooting that Yanez had pulled him over before for traffic stops and knew him?

Once again he was found not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, our judicial system does not establish innocence. It establishes if a jury of your peers believe that there is no reasonable doubt that you are guilty. The burden must always be on the law/state to be perfect to protect citizens from being unlawfully put in prison.

Back to OJ, once there was any evidence of tampering by the law/state it should automatically provide a bit of reasonable doubt regarding someones quilt or innocence.

You don't think veteran cops learn these skills by being on the job everyday? Do you think these skills can only be taught in a classroom setting? After a 6 month academy, in your town like any other, the recruit goes through a field training program then serves a probationary period. These dental hygienists and plumbers you reference learn a lot as apprentices learning OTJ.

A relative who was a State Trooper found a kidnapping/familial rape/FTA warrant on a homeless guy walking down the interstate during a blizzard. Caught another guy who was an enforcer for a rural drug gang (wanted for questioning in a double murder) for passing on the right on a two lane highway.

There are more than enough video's of L.E. Officer's taking a "simple traffic stop" lightly, and either getting injured, or killed. When the man says "don't reach for it", your ass better freeze, or you get turned into a spaghetti strainer.

"yellow bellied sap sucker." My, aren't you triggered.

I was thinking the last person who wrote that in a serious fashion was Sam Shepard.

K.

Not guilty is not the same as innocent.
This was still a bad shoot. Because if it was a good shoot Yanez would have never been in court in the first place.


I hope there's a civil suit. People understand money.

Lol how can that be correct if the video doesn't show it and we only have the self-serving words of the cop under investigation?

He wasn't instructed to place his hands on the steering wheel. You Yanez-boosters keep hearing and seeing what you want.

He was told don't reach for it, to which he told the officer he wasn't reaching for it.

OJ Simpson is innocent?
lol Really?

You are incredibly naive.  I am not a cop and have seen video of people insisting they arent doing things, like resisting, yet they are.

The statements of the person being stopped are not determinative of waht they are doing.

The jury didn't say that OJ was innocent. They said he wasn't guilty to beyond a reasonable certitude, which I believe was the standard in that case.

I'd wager that I have impaneled more civil juries than 99% of ARF.   I know what they do.  I didnt write that they found him factually innocent.  

But the standard is not "ANY AND ALL" reasonable doubt.  Thats false. Its A reasonble doubt.  And I didnt say they did anything other than evaluate the fatal shooting with instructions enabling them to fix the lowest legal criminal  that holds someone responsible for the death of another.  

It was a good shoot.

He needed more time mirror-training...standing in front of a full length mirror, clothing optional, but a gun belt is required. Do 10+ repetitions of the Draw-Holster-Draw drill. You want to reach a point where your Oakleys resting on top of your head do not shift at all.

Because you think police work is like CSI.  You don't get prints or dna much more often then you do.   More bad guys get caught and arrested by patrol officers who stopped them for "minor" offenses then get solved from forensics in real life.

You know who that guy got caught with your stolen stuff?  He got pulled over for a tag light, was smoking weed, and the officer found your stuff searching the car.  But wait, you probably never wrote down the serial numbers so the 10 TVs aren't listed as stolen.......but it's the cops fault you didn't get your stuff back.

Great advice from the author of the article.  Don't enforce the law because you might hurt someones feelings and it's your fault if the dumbass resists and gets hurt or killed.

I can't wait to max out as much OT as I can for the next 4 years to jack my pension up as high as I can.  That's going to be about $150,000/year if we keep having to pay OT to cover patrol shifts due to the vacancies from everyone who has quit over the last couple of years from the Ferguson Effect.  As long as we only have 20 graduates a year and keep losing 8-10 young guys who no longer will do the job every month I should be good.  And to think we used to complain about 60% staffing.

I would like to thank the public, especially BLM and CopWATCH, for paying me a bunch of money and EXPECTING me to do absolutely nothing to enforce the law.  I will gladly park my car and watch TV until responding to a 911 call.  I will then immediately return to the station to complete my report of the crime you were a victim of.  It's like being a Firefighter with free ammo.

You, the citizen, are free to go to the Magistrate's Office and swear out a criminal complaint.  If you call 911 I will even show up and ask the bad person who offended you to go to the Jail.  If they refuse I will de-escalate the situation by leaving.  Arresting someone for a misdemeanor may lead to a fight, injury, or death.  It is just WRONG that someone would be killed by the police for a minor offense like selling illegal cigarettes, trying to disarm an officer, driving with faulty equipment, or not following officers commands.  

If they are hurt or killed because of their poor decisions it is not their fault.  It is the polices' responsibility because of the inherent bias in their profession caused by centuries of enforcing racist laws in the name of white supremacy.

Every citizen has the RIGHT to do whatever they want, to resist arrest by using whatever force they can.  An officer is NEVER justified using physical force to put someone on the ground who is smaller or of the opposite sex than the officer.  If an officer punches a lady who has just punched his testicles then he is a coward and guilty of criminal assault.

I'll make sure my guys only go to calls and write reports for the detective's to call and follow up on from their desks instead of beating the bushes looking for bad guys.  I would hate for anyone to have a negative police experience .  

SCOTUS has already ruled that I am not liable for failing to protect you, so why should I risk my ass to save yours?  Because it's my job?  My job description is to respond to 911 calls and write reports.  That's it.  They can't make me ENFORCE any laws because citizens don't like quotas.  All I have to do is show up and document the mess.  It's not even my job to clean it up.

I hope I live at least another 50 years and enjoy my tax payer funded retirement while you work until you die for revenge for some of the stupid ass cop bashing I've seen in GD over the years.

No.
It's exactly like 40xb said.
There is the radio call available to listen to him saying why he was gonna pull the car over, he even asked for backup, since he thought the guy matched the description.
All of that evidence is out there to read and listen to.

No.

Also I don't believe you.

You really should take some use of force training.  I'd love to see you take a shoot no shoot video simulator.

Then you will have the answer to the above question, "If he didn't clear leather, how much of a threat could he be?"

Your mindset is understanable but profoundly ignorant.

Does not mention that in the officer's mind this was a felony stop, as evidenced by his call that the driver matched the description of a robbery suspect.
In the victim's mind this was a simple broken equipment stop and no big thing, his possible impairment may have contributed to his behavior.
A fuster cluck all around but mostly on the officer.

Was he digging into his waistband?

I didn't see that in any of the videos. Show me the frame, I'll wait.

Then why was he charged? Why was he fired?

Your authoritative statements in areas in which you are completely ignorant are troubling.

You appear to argue that there can be no ciminal trial if a crime has not been committed?  Do you hate the anglo saxaon concept of trial by jury so much?

The only reason he was jumpy was the asshole wouldn't stop reaching around after being told repeatedly to stop in loud clearly concise language with a gun pointing at him.

Ed

We also have the interview of the gf.
She states he was reaching for his right hip, to get wallet, so yes even his own gf said he was reaching.
I heard her say it, and the audio is very clear.

Yeah, genius, when a cop is yelling stuff at you during a traffic stop, like DONT REACH FOR THE GUN, a sane person STOPS everything.  EVERYTHING.  Hands freeze. Slowly show palms.  Re establsh some calm, then get your wallet.

Yanez stated to BAC, he never had any dealings with him prior.

I think your definition of 'good shoot' and mine differ. Last I checked, and I could be wrong, but 'good shoot' is not a legal term. But if I am ignorant  to one, then please enlighten me.

If it was a truly 'good shoot', then Yanez should still be a cop, right? I mean that stands to reason. Probably won't have to worry about a civil trial either, right?

Really?   Why do we conduct criminal trials?   Because the DA says, and a judge agrees, that there is a minimal amount of evidence that the defendant committed a crime.

But if a jury says there was no crime, that's it.  There was no crime.

Why was he fired?  Really?  Do you not understand PR and public pressure in these situations?

I am removing myself from this "conversation". You are either trolling, or eleven years old.  

If you want to incorporate adult sensibiities into your mindset, I will return.

What is your argument for Darrin Wilson in Ferguson then?  Didn't get charged, but went to a grand jury.....and got fired.

Both those can be a result of political pressure....not necessarily and indication of wrong doing

Since my last post was TLDR...

Sorry guy LE aren't the problem.  Its the media's fake narrative and the glorification of the gangster lifestyle into the mainstream that are the problem.  Its the elements in society that think they don't have to play by the rules that end up shot.  Generally speaking if you comply and don't act like a jackass then you will be fine.

Castile was not compliant.  He was a stoned idiot who failed to follow instructions and continued to reach for something that a reasonable officer would assume was a weapon.  He played stupid games and won stupid prizes.  If you were Officer Yanez you would have done the same thing.  I would love to put you on a Force Simulator or have you go through SIMS training.  

He is no different than Michael Brown.  And the fact that Brown's family is getting paid is a slap in the face to every law enforcement officer in the country.  His family should have gotten arrested and been found civilly liable for the damage caused by their lies.  

This is how the American Public "supports" law enforcement?  We act legally and correctly and lose our careers.  Criminal's break the law and their families get paid.

You want less policing?  This is how you get less policing.

I can't wait for the "hood to make it out to the 'burbs.  It's already started to happen here.

It's a problem that can be easily solved by training them the proper way, and holding them accountable when they don't deal with those situations in a proper fashion.

If you can't do the job well, the right way, then don't.  Having elevated power and shielding from your actions (to a certain degree) should equivocate to having a higher standard of respect for the tight line you walk, and personal accountability for being the kind of strict law abiding nature what you demand of your fellow citizens that you police..........

This comment is in relation to the comments about CCW holders interacting with some police officers.......the Phillandro thing.....yeah.....shit sandwich.

Ask the Dallas officers how secure their pensions are right now. Good luck!

That's not how UoF actually works. Have you ever done UoF training? If so, in what capacity?

Me too.  Qualified Immunity for the win!!!!!

I don't care about the city paying out as long as the officer is covered.  Taxpayers get the leadership they vote for.  Deal with the consequences.

Fortunately my State is one of the few that still has a well managed pension fund.  The legislature can't raid it at will.

Besides I have my VA Disability to fall back on

Not a bad idea!