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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:32:37 PM EDT
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There is not enough elevation in conventional optic to come close to dialing in 3450 meters of 50 cal drop. Until we hear what the setup was this is going in the "most likely BS" file. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:33:02 PM EDT
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There is not enough elevation in conventional optic to come close to dialing in 3450 meters of 50 cal drop. Until we hear what the setup was this is going in the "most likely BS" file. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:33:06 PM EDT
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Shooters calc says a 750gr AMAX would need almost 200 MOA in elevation. You got a point. plus the inherent inaccuracies of the round combination. I have no doubt they shot at someone at that range. But thats about it. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:34:04 PM EDT
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According to the pic..10 sec bullet flight time...surprised there is enough energy left.. 
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:34:11 PM EDT
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You didnt read the story and you don't shoot long range. I read to story and it is Bull Shit. 
Time of flight is 8 second or better. Nobody stands still for 8 seconds. Mac Tac 50s are 2 MOA guns with any issued ammo before conditions. A torso at 3450 meters is a 0.4 MOA target before conditions. No issued 50 cal sniper rifle has the capability to be adjusted to a 3450 meter zero. Canucks are more full of sniper BS than #NEVERTRUMP BS. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:34:25 PM EDT
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Not too shabby
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:34:40 PM EDT
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Serious question but what kind of optics do they use???
I can't see shit over 2 miles from me unless I use a telescope! |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:35:12 PM EDT
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According to the pic..10 sec bullet flight time...surprised there is enough energy left.. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:35:14 PM EDT
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Shooters calc says a 750gr AMAX would need almost 200 MOA in elevation. You got a point. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:37:04 PM EDT
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Never mind fucking up the range by less than 1% would result in a miss by feet. assuming you got the wind to within 1 MPH over the entire course of the shot, got the elevation delta perfect, with perfect barometric pressure and humidity to with 3%. plus the inherent inaccuracies of the round combination. I have no doubt they shot at someone at that range. But thats about it. Its like trying to kill an ant with a tooth pick. When you could use a flame thrower on the whole colony. 
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:37:13 PM EDT
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Wow. Good shot. https://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/429/incoming/article35416811.ece/BINARY/image.jpg |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:40:16 PM EDT
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It briefs well. And Chris Kyle had 2000 confirmed kills, confirmed by himself. they were officially in his DD214 that was later redacted due to OPSEC.
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:42:38 PM EDT
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All that SEAL hate is gonna burn you up, kid. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:43:16 PM EDT
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He might not even be a great shooter. At that distance, there is at least as much luck as skill. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But my book on sharpshooting and sniping doesn't mention him. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:43:42 PM EDT
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Yeah I'm going with BS on this, unless the rifle was fitted with a MASSIVE 100+ moa Rail, there isn't enough adjustment on the scope, and even with a hold over reticle there still is t enough on the lense to cover such a massive change.
One would likely have the same odds of hitting a man sized target at that distance if they just pointed the rifle in the general direction and fired. There are nearly a hundred variables that come into play at that range, and even the smallest ones of consequence could mean a miss if not perfectly adjusted for. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:45:05 PM EDT
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I think MrBurns is right on, with this. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There is not enough elevation in conventional optic to come close to dialing in 3450 meters of 50 cal drop. Until we hear what the setup was this is going in the "most likely BS" file. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:45:48 PM EDT
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He might not even be a great shooter. At that distance, there is at least as much luck as skill. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:46:39 PM EDT
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Never mind fucking up the range by less than 1% would result in a miss by feet. assuming you got the wind to within 1 MPH over the entire course of the shot, got the elevation delta perfect, with perfect barometric pressure and humidity to with 3%. plus the inherent inaccuracies of the round combination. I have no doubt they shot at someone at that range. But thats about it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Shooters calc says a 750gr AMAX would need almost 200 MOA in elevation. You got a point. plus the inherent inaccuracies of the round combination. I have no doubt they shot at someone at that range. But thats about it. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:46:59 PM EDT
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Maybe it was an API round that set something on fire and subsequently killed the target?!
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:51:11 PM EDT
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I earned every bit of it. For some inexplicable reason he is a bit of a fan of your Marine Corp bashing. Or not.
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:51:31 PM EDT
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Shooters calc says a 750gr AMAX would need almost 200 MOA in elevation. You got a point. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:51:41 PM EDT
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This is true. A lot of those sniper stories are bullshit. Even guys in my platoon would disappear behind a wall in a firefight then of course always kill someone at long range... |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:51:49 PM EDT
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Maybe it was an API round that set something on fire and subsequently killed the target?! |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:52:10 PM EDT
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How the hell do you even see a person at that distance? Even with a 40x optic, they would be grain of sand size. ".....you want me to do what?" "....the fucking sand, center the hairs on the grain of sand." 
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:52:51 PM EDT
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Regardless of the Country the shooters from, that's a Hell of a Shot!!  |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:52:58 PM EDT
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He might not even be a great shooter. At that distance, there is at least as much luck as skill. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But my book on sharpshooting and sniping doesn't mention him. It doesn't say how many shots it took. The truth is that the bullet isn't supersonic at that distance so it cannot shoot to call. Very glad he connected though, and it's still a win. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:53:07 PM EDT
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There's a first time for everything. Wish me luck, Rooster.
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:53:36 PM EDT
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I just don't know why you'd engage a target at 3400 meters WITH A RIFLE. Where the miss is extemely likely. Versus Arty that can fuck up the entire group of them with a couple rounds of 155. Or a 500 lbs bomb. Its like trying to kill an ant with a tooth pick. When you could use a flame thrower on the whole colony. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:55:58 PM EDT
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What was his inclination? Says he fired from a "high-rise", which can buy you some elevation on your turrets from the cosine of the angle. Also, does the issued scope base come with extra elevation built in? curious...
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:56:14 PM EDT
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Dang, those Canadians REALLY like killing bad guys from super long range. News of pancakes travels fast, in this case it made it nearly 3 and a half kilometers and the fucker was spreading the word. Something had to be done. Don't fuck with our pancakes. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 10:57:42 PM EDT
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He might not even be a great shooter. At that distance, there is at least as much luck as skill. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But my book on sharpshooting and sniping doesn't mention him. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 11:00:45 PM EDT
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I think MrBurns is right on, with this. No sniper here, just curious. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 11:03:08 PM EDT
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Shooting from the top of a high rise building may have given some advantage, yes/no ? No sniper here, just curious. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 11:04:08 PM EDT
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Hmm, this gets me to thinking. Maybe they used some kind of Canuckian wizbang, laser guided 50 cal ogive they're testing before the flappy headed fuckers invade. It's only a matter of time. Somone should call Alex Jones.
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Posted: 6/21/2017 11:04:51 PM EDT
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Are we talking three stories or the Burj Khalifa? Holy Mollee !!! |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 11:09:42 PM EDT
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Hmm, this gets me to thinking. Maybe they used some kind of Canuckian wizbang, laser guided 50 cal ogive they're testing before the flappy headed fuckers invade. It's only a matter of time. Somone should call Alex Jones. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 11:10:05 PM EDT
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That's quite a ways, eh? Cheers.
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Posted: 6/21/2017 11:10:24 PM EDT
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He shot the guy from a perch in Dubai ??? Holy Mollee !!! |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 11:12:57 PM EDT
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Damn!
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Posted: 6/21/2017 11:13:03 PM EDT
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Are we talking three stories or the Burj Khalifa? |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 11:13:50 PM EDT
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There is actually laser guided .50 projectile. Sandia National Labs has been working on it. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 11:14:17 PM EDT
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Shooting from the top of a high rise building may have given some advantage, yes/no ? No sniper here, just curious. A 26 story building is only about 100 meters tall. I suspect not many buildings that tall are still inhabitable in that part of the world. Even a 20 degree look angle will only buy you about 10 MOA and that is a very steep angle needing a 325 story building. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 11:15:21 PM EDT
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Good shoot, rah rah, and all. I'm still in the camp that says he was lucky that asshole didn't turn to scratch his ass during that particular 8 second span of time.
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Posted: 6/21/2017 11:18:35 PM EDT
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I will have to claim BS.
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Posted: 6/21/2017 11:19:46 PM EDT
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Think of the difference in angles over 3.5 km. Wouldn't the height advantage give the shooter a lesser angle and a better sight picture ? I would like to know the height of the building, say it was 200 feet. How much would that advantage the shooter for targeting and calculating bullet drop over distance ? |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 11:21:33 PM EDT
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There is not enough elevation in conventional optic to come close to dialing in 3450 meters of 50 cal drop. Until we hear what the setup was this is going in the "most likely BS" file. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dang, those Canadians REALLY like killing bad guys from super long range. Until we hear what the setup was this is going in the "most likely BS" file. Seems like this story turns up every year or two about canadian Snipers. Seems like it gets longer every time. Fake news. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 11:22:52 PM EDT
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Note to self: move around every 8 seconds.
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Posted: 6/21/2017 11:22:54 PM EDT
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With a 1000yd zero, in 120 deg temp, at 4400ft elevation, I still get:
47.7 mils of drop. Not sure how many MOA cant the Canadians have on their TAC-50s, but this one appears to be 30 or 40 MOA. S&B PMII has 26-30 Mils of total travel 40 MOA base is 11.6 mils There's a way to do it without bottoming out, but it isn't with that set-up in this photo. Another way to do it is measure a TGT ref above the intended TGT, and aim at that. 
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Posted: 6/21/2017 11:23:27 PM EDT
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I just don't know why you'd engage a target at 3400 meters WITH A RIFLE. Where the miss is extemely likely. Versus Arty that can fuck up the entire group of them with a couple rounds of 155. Or a 500 lbs bomb. Its like trying to kill an ant with a tooth pick. When you could use a flame thrower on the whole colony. |
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Posted: 6/21/2017 11:25:31 PM EDT
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