Gallup: Less-educated Americans more likely to believe in creationism

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Posted: 5/25/2017 1:35:56 PM EDT

http://www.gallup.com/poll/210956/belief-creationist-view-humans-new-low.aspx

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38% say God created man in present form, lowest in 35 years
Same percentage say humans evolved, but God guided the process
Less-educated Americans more likely to believe in creationism

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- The percentage of U.S. adults who believe that God created humans in their present form at some time within the last 10,000 years or so -- the strict creationist view -- has reached a new low. Thirty-eight percent of U.S. adults now accept creationism, while 57% believe in some form of evolution -- either God-guided or not -- saying man developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life.

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Higher education levels are associated with less support for creationism and higher levels of belief in the evolutionary explanation for human origins. Belief in creationism is 21% among those with postgraduate education versus 48% of those with no more than a high school diploma. Agreement with evolution without God's involvement is 31% among postgrads versus 12% among Americans with a high school education or less.

However, even among adults with a college degree or postgraduate education, more believe God had a role in evolution than say evolution occurred without God.

Posted: 5/25/2017 1:37:16 PM EDT

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They must have hired Captain Obvious to write that poll.

Posted: 5/25/2017 1:47:08 PM EDT

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shocker

Posted: 5/25/2017 1:49:53 PM EDT

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Glad to see our society at large turning away from religion.

Posted: 5/25/2017 1:58:18 PM EDT

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Uh...no shit?

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:01:17 PM EDT

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I believe in God, therefor I am dumber than atheists.

Did I get it right my intellectual superiors?

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:01:19 PM EDT

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Yeah man it's awesome to see moral degradation and degeneration

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:02:38 PM EDT

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NOW, you're thinking with portals!

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:05:24 PM EDT

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I guess OP should've put a trigger warning in the title for you.

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:05:43 PM EDT

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What moral degradation?

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:05:43 PM EDT

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Religion does not result in good morals. Consequently, the absence of religion does not result in a lack of morality.

The Japanese are, by at large, a more upstanding and moral people than us in the West yet they are godless heathens.

On the other side of the coin, the theocracy of Saudi Arabia is a cesspit.

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:07:00 PM EDT

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So, they're saying that people educated in an overwhelmingly liberal atheistic higher education system emerge as less likely to believe in some religious principles???

OMG!!! So unexpected!!!! Stop the presses!!!

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:07:05 PM EDT

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Religion does not result in good morals. Consequently, the absence of religion does not result in a lack of morality.

The Japanese are, by at large, a more upstanding and moral people than us in the West yet they are godless heathens.

On the other side of the coin, the theocracy of Saudi Arabia is a cesspit.

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Morality is doing right, no matter what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told, no matter what is right.

H.L. Mencken

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:09:03 PM EDT

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What moral degradation?

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What moral degradation?

I think it's two guys holding hands while minding their own business.

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:09:04 PM EDT

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I don't claim to be your intellectual superior, but no, you didn't get it right. "Less educated" does not mean the same thing as "dumber." And no one is saying anything about belief in God (or any god), the study dealt with belief in creationism. Also, no one is saying that you are necessarily less educated (or dumber) than atheists as a whole.

A bit touchy, aren't we?

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:09:59 PM EDT

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Ive got two years education past masters degree, according to stupid surveys / MSM opinions I didn't vote for Trump - wrong.

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:10:40 PM EDT

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Morality is doing right, no matter what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told, no matter what is right.

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And so what is "right" is purely a judgement call made by Man? Each man is his own highest moral authority?

So a serial killer has high morals, since he is only doing what he alone judges as "right"?

A pedophile is "moral" because he's doing what he thinks is "right"?

Or are you saying morality is a consensus of men -- like whatever the people on Facebook decide? And if they decide differently later today, then morality can change, perhaps on an hourly basis?

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:10:50 PM EDT

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Yup no doubt.

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:12:47 PM EDT

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So you mean to tell me Americans educated in colleges that are liberal breeding and indoctrination centers, are more likely to believe 'science'?

You don't say.

I bet they're more likely to believe in gun control too, when does ARFcom start faking over themselves for them with that issue?

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:12:54 PM EDT

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Posted: 5/25/2017 2:14:09 PM EDT

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Posted: 5/25/2017 2:15:25 PM EDT

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Religion does not result in good morals. Consequently, the absence of religion does not result in a lack of morality.

The Japanese are, by at large, a more upstanding and moral people than us in the West yet they are godless heathens.

On the other side of the coin, the theocracy of Saudi Arabia is a cesspit.

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Good to see you have zero understanding of Japanese culture. And yes, you are wrong.

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:16:11 PM EDT

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Morality is doing right, no matter what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told, no matter what is right.

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Moral relativism much?

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:17:53 PM EDT

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It's not. It is just converting to humanism and worships old rich white men called scientists.

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:18:50 PM EDT

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I have no problem believing the Genesis story and agreeing that evolution is legitimate science. Because I believe in an all-powerful God. I have never understood the either/or crowd.

I am well educated. For the record.

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:20:31 PM EDT

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Our country is safe and has been experiencing less and less violent crime for decades. Probably because of the decline of morals in our country.

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:20:56 PM EDT

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Ive got two years education past masters degree, according to stupid surveys / MSM opinions I didn't vote for Trump - wrong.

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I'm pretty sure that there aren't any surveys that say that you didn't vote for Trump.

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:20:58 PM EDT

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I love the qualifier "less/more educated".

Having a lot of bad education doesn't magically make it good.

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:21:11 PM EDT

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Now the pagans can lather themselves in their intellectual prowess. They are way smarter than the dopes who believe in a deity.

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:21:49 PM EDT

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Good to see you have zero understanding of Japanese culture. And yes, you are wrong.

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I would say I have quite a good understanding of their culture, from reading about their history and traveling over there.

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:21:49 PM EDT

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I bet the liberal God hating college professors who brought us things like Antfa and idiots who want safe places and special rights for abnormals deemed oppressed had nothing to do with it.

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:21:54 PM EDT

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As well as our society deteriorating right before our eyes.

Wonder if there is a correlation

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:22:45 PM EDT

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And both are dumb as rocks compared to agnostics.

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:26:00 PM EDT

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Morality is doing right, no matter what you are told. Religion is doing what you are told, no matter what is right.

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Oh and how do you establish what is moral? You do realize in the Bible and I'd wager the Torah is text that says eventually we recognize good and evil as such because of him, right? I'll look for the scripture in a moment. I can't find it at the moment and my phones almost dead, perhaps someone else knows what I'm referencing. I'll check back when I'm home if no locate it and add the scripture.

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:27:51 PM EDT

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So is it because we're dumb or does this confirm the liberal machine is alive and well in higher education?

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:31:31 PM EDT

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Oh and how do you establish what is moral? You do realize in the Bible and I'd wager the Torah is text that says eventually we recognize good and evil as such because of him, right? I'll look for the scripture in a moment.

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Societies have determined right and wrong because sometimes it is pretty black and white. A la:

-Stealing someones stuff is wrong. You wouldn't want your stuff stolen, right? Let's agree not to steal.
-Killing people is wrong. You wouldn't want to be killed right? Let's punish those who kill others.
-To help our society continue, help other people out. Especially your parents and your kids will do the same thing.

You know, stuff like that.
You don't need a carpenter who lived 2000 years ago to help you determine what is right and wrong.

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:35:11 PM EDT

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Look on the bright side -

If we're wrong - there is no consequence of believing the way we do following our inevitable death - nothing.

If we're right - the people poking fun at you burn for eternity.

I'm a believer in a higher power - but I care not what others do. To each their own.

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:43:12 PM EDT

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The believers in creationism can always point to how far the God created man has progressed in just 6000 years.

Atheists, if they are to be believed, are just evolved apes.

I prefer to remain unaffiliated with either bunch.

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:44:41 PM EDT

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Dupe- about 2000 years ago in 1 Cor 1:

Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well-pleased through the foolishness of the [o]message preached to save those who believe. 22 For indeed Jews ask for [p]signs and Greeks search for wisdom; 23 but we preach [q]Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block and to Gentiles foolishness, 24 but to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

26 For [r]consider your calling, brethren, that there were not many wise according to [s]the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble; 27 but God has chosen the foolish things of the world to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to shame the things which are strong, 28 and the base things of the world and the despised God has chosen, the things that are not, so that He may nullify the things that are, 29 so that no [t]man may boast before God. 30 But [u]by His doing you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption, 31 so that, just as it is written, “Let him who boasts, boast in the Lord.”

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:49:26 PM EDT

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I believe in God and I'm certain I'm smarter than any dopey atheist. The science is settled.

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:51:48 PM EDT

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2 degrees here, but I guess I'm the lesser educated.

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:54:39 PM EDT

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Didn't say who commissioned the poll. Those polls don't pay themselves.

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:57:25 PM EDT

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No shit. This just in: Those lacking in science education lack an understanding of science.

Though I'll add that I never took any bio classes in college, much of what I know about evolution I learned in high school, my Catholic high school.

Posted: 5/25/2017 2:59:19 PM EDT

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Society is just choosing to worship something else; something created instead of the creator.

Posted: 5/25/2017 3:00:42 PM EDT

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It started when they let them homosexuals have their house flipping shows.

Posted: 5/25/2017 3:00:52 PM EDT

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Are you saying that, if someone does not believe that God created humans as they exist today sometime in the last 10,000 years, that he/she is an atheist?

Posted: 5/25/2017 3:02:04 PM EDT

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Pretty much.

Posted: 5/25/2017 3:02:33 PM EDT

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Now the pagans can lather themselves in their intellectual prowess. They are way smarter than the dopes who believe in a deity.

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Yep. Too smart by half.

I envy their enlightenment.

Posted: 5/25/2017 3:03:20 PM EDT

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"Less educated" can also mean "less indoctrinated."

Posted: 5/25/2017 3:06:41 PM EDT

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I'm not sure that's actually a decrease, the wording is a little more precise than I've seen in prior polls.

Still should put the "YEC is a tiny fringe minority" argument to bed though.

Genesis is a cool story about a comet that's been wildly misunderstood, but that doesn't really have any bearing on whether God exists, only whether what some claim to know about Him is accurate.

Posted: 5/25/2017 3:07:48 PM EDT

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I fail to see how our society has improved morally turning away from religion. We live in an anything goes kind of world where the value of life is cheap.

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