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Link Posted: 5/23/2017 10:50:53 PM EDT
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if they can't get underway....
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 10:51:24 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/23/2017 10:57:53 PM EDT
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Whoever titled this picture is jacked up.  That's the Nimitz, not the Gerald R Ford.

My dad served on that ship.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 11:04:04 PM EDT
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they can't work 24/7 
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Sure they can. They run multiple shifts.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 11:06:41 PM EDT
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There is alot of shit to do.
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24/7/356
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 11:24:13 PM EDT
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Somebody has to take the garbage out.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 11:33:27 PM EDT
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My question is do they get large norovirus outbreaks like cruise ships, and how does that effect their readiness? 
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Everyone gets "The Crud". The food ensures you don't get the shits.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 11:34:38 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/23/2017 11:49:35 PM EDT
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How many needle guns and gallons of non skid do they have on that big bitch, fucking hell.
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 11:50:18 PM EDT
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They operate 90+ aircraft 24/7/265.  Now image running an airport that moves, all day, all night.  And it can shoot it's own weapons, feed it's own people, and run it's own hospital and dental clinics...
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I like the way this guy thinks!  Short, simple, to the point
Link Posted: 5/23/2017 11:57:56 PM EDT
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I knew it was a small city, I had no clue it was 5k. Damn.

When you think about it....


https://fas.org/irp/doddir/navy/rfs/part04.htm


Is there a bowling alley? They have to have some rec services. Im sure there is a workout room. Bomb guys, arms room, How many jarheads? A platoon? 30+?


Only thought of it as a city, never though about real numbers. Im really surprised its only 5500. I know some 3500 people towns and they have NOTHING.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 12:05:06 AM EDT
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War is a $3 Trillion dollar plus industry a year. There is not right or wrong just who benefits.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 12:20:54 AM EDT
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Gravity.  Next question?
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But someone told me in GD earlier that if two heavy slick surfaces are on each other they stick?
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 12:23:11 AM EDT
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Snort
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 12:23:12 AM EDT
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So when a baby is born in one of the many maternity wards while at sea, what is its citizenship?
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 12:26:29 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/24/2017 12:28:14 AM EDT
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If they only had 4,999 someone would be without a partner.

Link Posted: 5/24/2017 12:29:36 AM EDT
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Take every job that needs to be done and multiply by 3 to 4 in order to have 24/7 shifts for 6 months at a time.




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This right here

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Link Posted: 5/24/2017 12:30:19 AM EDT
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No there is no bowling alley. Usually there is one main gym, a few smaller ones where there might be an elliptical or two stashed in an out of the way space. There are times when no flight ops is happening that you can run on the flight deck.

Ships company is about 3500. It is so much nicer underway with out the fucking skittles (airwing). As long as flight ops are going on, having the airwing on isn't bad. When they aren't flying, all they do is eat and crowd the gym.

I think with all the automation and stuff on the Ford they cut ships crew down to about 2800. That is a huge cut.

I really don't remember any outbreaks of norovirus when I was on the Enterprise. Some crud goes around, but never anything severe.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 12:32:38 AM EDT
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I've heard from friends that were in the Navy that it's "not gay if it's underway".

Is this true?
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 12:34:47 AM EDT
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I'm gonna gues you've never spend more than a couple hours on your visit to your local aircraft carrier museum. An aircraft carrier is literally a small town on the ocean. 
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 12:35:29 AM EDT
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I'm sure there are probably lotsa anchorclankers just moping around with their hands in their pockets and nothing to do...
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 12:36:10 AM EDT
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TPNI
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 6:48:01 AM EDT
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read: maintenance
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 6:57:42 AM EDT
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2500 couples?
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:12:34 AM EDT
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Absolutely. I was a Corpsman on the Truman and there was one given immediately prior to any deployment: A conga line of female sailors looking to get a pregnancy test. They would get knocked up to avoid deployment, then run out and get an abortion.
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You gotta cover the pregnant chicks getting yanked out of the crew...
Absolutely. I was a Corpsman on the Truman and there was one given immediately prior to any deployment: A conga line of female sailors looking to get a pregnancy test. They would get knocked up to avoid deployment, then run out and get an abortion.
I spent five years on the Truman, and you're absolutely full of shit.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:14:40 AM EDT
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Wow, and nobody claimed the OP was a Chinese spy and they need to figure it out on their own

I have wondered how well a USS Nimitz with full battle load would do against say the USS America with 12 F-35 VSTOL craft.  I know that is another topic and I assume one that has been argued before.
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F-18s and F-35Cs have longer legs than F-35Bs.  And we've got 70 of them.  

Game over.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:17:05 AM EDT
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I don't know how you squids stand it, all cooped up on a ship with nothing much to do but your duty and to get on each others nerves...it was hard enough in the Army in a big old base on the ground with room to spread out.

I can't even imagine sub life.
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Nothing much to do?



You are moving 20+ hours a day, seven days a week on a CVN.  72 hours w/o sleep was very common.  

Watchstanding is a welcome break, just sit and watch a scope or answer the phone for a few hours before you go back to equipment maintenance or whatever else needs to be done.  Climb the mast to replace a part in a radar underway -- that one's always fun.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:20:55 AM EDT
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This and nobody want to work 12-18 hours shift for 7 days a week.

You need personnel so you can have enough people to give time off and take into account people getting injured while
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There is alot of shit to do.
This and nobody want to work 12-18 hours shift for 7 days a week.

You need personnel so you can have enough people to give time off and take into account people getting injured while
underway.
There's no such thing as "time off" underway.

18 hour shifts would be a wonderful schedule, an amazing thing.  

If you get an hour or two break on a Sunday morning because people don't like to have meetings then that's an amazing thing -- but Sunday morning is usually when 40 year old equipment decides to break.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:22:21 AM EDT
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Not saying it can't happen but I'd imagine it's easier to prevent/contain norovirus on a military ship than civilian.

Medical screenings prior to boarding, cleaning procedures, easier to order a sick sailor to see medical and quarantine/restrict movement on the ship vs a civilian whose paid their way.

Plus cruise ships probably have many more areas where large numbers of people gather that aid infection spreading. Pools, multiple restaurants/buffets, bars, night clubs, theaters, casinos, day care centers etc etc. 
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My question is do they get large norovirus outbreaks like cruise ships, and how does that effect their readiness? 
Not saying it can't happen but I'd imagine it's easier to prevent/contain norovirus on a military ship than civilian.

Medical screenings prior to boarding, cleaning procedures, easier to order a sick sailor to see medical and quarantine/restrict movement on the ship vs a civilian whose paid their way.

Plus cruise ships probably have many more areas where large numbers of people gather that aid infection spreading. Pools, multiple restaurants/buffets, bars, night clubs, theaters, casinos, day care centers etc etc. 
Nah, we get that shit too.  It sucks.  Lots of people get sick.  People still stand watch and do their jobs.  Everybody goes out and sanitizes all the hand rails and door knobs and whatever else to try to stop it.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:24:21 AM EDT
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I knew it was a small city, I had no clue it was 5k. Damn.

When you think about it....


https://fas.org/irp/doddir/navy/rfs/part04.htm


Is there a bowling alley? They have to have some rec services. Im sure there is a workout room. Bomb guys, arms room, How many jarheads? A platoon? 30+?


Only thought of it as a city, never though about real numbers. Im really surprised its only 5500. I know some 3500 people towns and they have NOTHING.
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There's no bowling alley.

There are several gyms.  No Marines other than a VMFA if one is embarked with the CVW.  Marines left when special weapons were removed, the old mardet berthing is now security.

It's not 5500 anymore, that was back in the 90s.  Probably 3500 or so give or take a little.  With the CVW, that is.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:25:17 AM EDT
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So when a baby is born in one of the many maternity wards while at sea, what is its citizenship?
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There are no maternity wards.  There is a fully staffed hospital.  There's been one baby born at sea on a CVN that I can recall, it's not the norm to get underway with pregnant Sailors.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:26:15 AM EDT
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Nothing much to do?



You are moving 20+ hours a day, seven days a week on a CVN.  72 hours w/o sleep was very common.  

Watchstanding is a welcome break, just sit and watch a scope or answer the phone for a few hours before you go back to equipment maintenance or whatever else needs to be done.  Climb the mast to replace a part in a radar underway -- that one's always fun.
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I've been up to the top of the mast of USS Kearsarge. I hate heights and that sucked going up there inport, you have my respect having to go up at sea.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:27:11 AM EDT
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No there is no bowling alley. Usually there is one main gym, a few smaller ones where there might be an elliptical or two stashed in an out of the way space. There are times when no flight ops is happening that you can run on the flight deck.

Ships company is about 3500. It is so much nicer underway with out the fucking skittles (airwing). As long as flight ops are going on, having the airwing on isn't bad. When they aren't flying, all they do is eat and crowd the gym.

I think with all the automation and stuff on the Ford they cut ships crew down to about 2800. That is a huge cut.

I really don't remember any outbreaks of norovirus when I was on the Enterprise. Some crud goes around, but never anything severe.
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Ship's company has been 2600 or so for years.  We do now with five people what we used to do with 20 in some workcenters.  It's insane, it's painful, and I thank god every day I'm never going back to one.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:30:42 AM EDT
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I've been up to the top of the mast of USS Kearsarge. I hate heights and that sucked going up there inport, you have my respect having to go up at sea.
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Nothing much to do?



You are moving 20+ hours a day, seven days a week on a CVN.  72 hours w/o sleep was very common.  

Watchstanding is a welcome break, just sit and watch a scope or answer the phone for a few hours before you go back to equipment maintenance or whatever else needs to be done.  Climb the mast to replace a part in a radar underway -- that one's always fun.
I've been up to the top of the mast of USS Kearsarge. I hate heights and that sucked going up there inport, you have my respect having to go up at sea.
Those motherfuckers made it even more fun when they lit off a Rhino for high power turns on the deck while we were up there.  Those things sound like the fucking apocalypse -- I couldn't hear myself think, and I'm trying to solder connectors and talk to my ET3 and talk on the radio to the pilothouse at the same time.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:40:27 AM EDT
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Those motherfuckers made it even more fun when they lit off a Rhino for high power turns on the deck while we were up there.  Those things sound like the fucking apocalypse -- I couldn't hear myself think, and I'm trying to solder connectors and talk to my ET3 and talk on the radio to the pilothouse at the same time.  
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As an HT I quite often envied the life of an ET.

Whenever I heard the 1mc that personnel were working aloft, that was something I was glad I didn't have to do.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:43:55 AM EDT
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If you throw somebody out of a porthole, is it still defenestration?
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Or is it deportation?  
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 7:51:14 AM EDT
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There are no fucking hallways in the Navy only passageways and yes you buff them!

There are no ceilings, floors, stairs or walls either. There are however overheads, decks, ladders and bulkheads.
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Why is it the navy's always gotta bulkheads?
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As an HT I quite often envied the life of an ET.

Whenever I heard the 1mc that personnel were working aloft, that was something I was glad I didn't have to do.
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Those motherfuckers made it even more fun when they lit off a Rhino for high power turns on the deck while we were up there.  Those things sound like the fucking apocalypse -- I couldn't hear myself think, and I'm trying to solder connectors and talk to my ET3 and talk on the radio to the pilothouse at the same time.  
As an HT I quite often envied the life of an ET.

Whenever I heard the 1mc that personnel were working aloft, that was something I was glad I didn't have to do.
I had two HTs go aloft with us to do some welding on the mast once... they were good sports about it, but you could definitely tell neither one of them was particularly happy about it.

We did have a good life when we got to actually spend time in our air conditioned spaces -- but as often as not we were inside a radar dome on the fantail in the scorching heat trying to fix something on 40+ year old system that has no business still being in operation.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 8:21:14 AM EDT
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They operate 90+ aircraft 24/7/265.  Now image running an airport that moves, all day, all night.  And it can shoot it's own weapons, feed it's own people, and run it's own hospital and dental clinics...
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plus some Marines sitting around ready to go fuck up someone's shit
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 8:28:02 AM EDT
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it is an airbase on top of a small town on top of 2 nuclear reactors that sails around the world at 30+ knots
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 Yep.
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It's a fully functional airport.

It's a mega cruise ship.

It's a military base.

It's a nuclear reactor.

All packaged up together.   That's a lot of stuff to do.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 9:19:25 AM EDT
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Why is it the navy's always gotta bulkheads?
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There are no fucking hallways in the Navy only passageways and yes you buff them!

There are no ceilings, floors, stairs or walls either. There are however overheads, decks, ladders and bulkheads.
Why is it the navy's always gotta bulkheads?
You couldn't have bulkhead counseling without bulkheads.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 9:20:55 AM EDT
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OP, take a tour of one and you will understand.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 9:54:09 AM EDT
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It's a fully functional airport.

It's a mega cruise ship.

It's a military base.

It's a nuclear reactor.

All packaged up together.   That's a lot of stuff to do.
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I'm no expert, but seems risky putting all your eggs into one basket like that.
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plus some Marines sitting around ready to go fuck up someone's shit
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They operate 90+ aircraft 24/7/265.  Now image running an airport that moves, all day, all night.  And it can shoot it's own weapons, feed it's own people, and run it's own hospital and dental clinics...
plus some Marines sitting around ready to go fuck up someone's shit
Nope.
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 9:55:28 AM EDT
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I'm no expert, but seems risky putting all your eggs into one basket like that.
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It's a fully functional airport.

It's a mega cruise ship.

It's a military base.

It's a nuclear reactor.

All packaged up together.   That's a lot of stuff to do.
I'm no expert, but seems risky putting all your eggs into one basket like that.
Just spitballing here, but what if they put the airport part on land?  It would be a lot harder to sink that way.
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I like this post.        
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Me too.    Even I can understand it.    
Link Posted: 5/24/2017 10:01:59 AM EDT
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Just spitballing here, but what if they put the airport part on land?  It would be a lot harder to sink that way.
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It's a fully functional airport.

It's a mega cruise ship.

It's a military base.

It's a nuclear reactor.

All packaged up together.   That's a lot of stuff to do.
I'm no expert, but seems risky putting all your eggs into one basket like that.
Just spitballing here, but what if they put the airport part on land?  It would be a lot harder to sink that way.
Kind of defeats the purpose of having an aircraft carrier, doesn't it?

CVNs exist to project power as a tool of the US Government. They don't exist to be "harder to sink".
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