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Posted: 4/30/2017 12:07:27 AM EDT
The Texas Outrage thread reminded me of this recent development.
http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2017/04/28/ethics-conversation-sal-cincotta-just-won-his-own-photography-contest Apparently the man who runs Shutterfest also runs an image competition during the event. Participants pay $25 per photo entry ($35 if the image is late). Normally winners of a private photo competition aren't big news, but the identity of the winner in this case is the source of community uproar: Sal Cincotta, the owner of Shutterfest, just won the grand prize and 11 top-three finishes across the total of 17 categories in the Shutterfest Image Competition.
In addition to winning the Grand Jury Award, Cincotta placed in the top three of several categories: 1st place - Creative/Commercial 1st place - Creative/Fashion 2nd place - Portrait/Engagement 3rd place - Portrait/General 1st & 2nd place - Portrait/Seniors 1st, 2nd, & 3rd place - Wedding/Couple together 1st & 2nd place - Wedding/Alone The worse issue is that he apparently doesn't give a crap either. His response to the question of ethics seems to be, "Fuck you; you're all sore losers." Wow. 
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Posted: 4/30/2017 12:16:16 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/30/2017 12:18:26 AM EDT
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He never should have been allowed to enter
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Posted: 4/30/2017 12:39:17 AM EDT
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That crap does happen. Brother went to a big car show/dyno contest at a dodge tuner but open to all. Have camaros vettes mustangs vipers ect . His car (insanely modded mustang cobra at the time) blew the doors off the competition in the dyno runs. Beats a viper . Dodge guy putting it on didn't like that. Pulled a twin turbo viper out of the back and ran it. And awarded himself the 1st prize
let's just say after that everyone pretty much said fuck this guy and left.
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Posted: 4/30/2017 1:41:58 AM EDT
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I don't know. I am in my local lion's club and we have charity raffles several times a year. We usually have trouble selling all of the tickets, so the members split the remainder. Occasionally one of us will win. No crooked games, just luck of the draw.
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Posted: 4/30/2017 7:53:50 AM EDT
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I don't know. I am in my local lion's club and we have charity raffles several times a year. We usually have trouble selling all of the tickets, so the members split the remainder. Occasionally one of us will win. No crooked games, just luck of the draw. This is a situation where the owner charges everyone per image, picks the judges, and then essentially sweeps the awards himself. And while I haven't personally looked at his images, there's been some discussion that his weren't necessarily better than that of the competition. Personally I wouldn't bother giving him my money after that. But he seems to think this is somehow "motivation" to do better than him - meaning pay him again to let his hand-picked judges pick the winner.
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Posted: 4/30/2017 8:32:10 AM EDT
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Organizers of any judged competition should never be allowed to enter into the competition.
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Posted: 4/30/2017 8:40:59 AM EDT
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Even if it were purely random, the organizer should not be involved. We had this issue with a car club event. Guy won something pretty big and everyone was kinda
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Posted: 4/30/2017 8:42:56 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/30/2017 8:46:51 AM EDT
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I don't know. I am in my local lion's club and we have charity raffles several times a year. We usually have trouble selling all of the tickets, so the members split the remainder. Occasionally one of us will win. No crooked games, just luck of the draw. I rarely win anything. |
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Posted: 4/30/2017 8:52:30 AM EDT
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his contest, his rules
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Posted: 4/30/2017 9:10:05 AM EDT
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I don't see a problem with it, Seems most of you didn't read how it was run.
a large number of judges NO names on any photos If a judge thought they knew who took the photo they recused themselves from judging that photo. We entered and competed in the races we ran when I owned a race track. We enter and compete in the 3 gun matches we run as well. While we don't take the prize for the place we finish, we do accept the placement. The next place finisher gets the prize, but is awarded his actual place. Nobody gets bent, many like the fact that we also compete, they know it's an event run by, and caters to competitors. It could be just a $$ driven event. |
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Posted: 4/30/2017 9:17:50 AM EDT
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Doesn't matter if the contest organizer won the contest fair and square. Next to no one who participated in that contest will ever trust that guy again or enter another of his contests.
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Posted: 4/30/2017 9:51:09 AM EDT
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A call to the state attorney general should clear things up. I'm not a lawyer but it is probably illegal in most states.
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Posted: 4/30/2017 9:59:39 AM EDT
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Doesn't matter if the contest organizer won the contest fair and square. Next to no one who participated in that contest will ever trust that guy again or enter another of his contests. |
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Posted: 4/30/2017 10:03:29 AM EDT
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That's different. That's just chance. And it sounds like your group isn't winning to the point where it might look odd. This is a situation where the owner charges everyone per image, picks the judges, and then essentially sweeps the awards himself. And while I haven't personally looked at his images, there's been some discussion that his weren't necessarily better than that of the competition. Personally I wouldn't bother giving him my money after that. But he seems to think this is somehow "motivation" to do better than him - meaning pay him again to let his hand-picked judges pick the winner. |
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Posted: 4/30/2017 10:03:49 AM EDT
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Dupe a roo
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Posted: 4/30/2017 11:01:04 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/30/2017 2:44:23 PM EDT
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A small gun local dealer had a gun raffle to support the NRA. When ticket sales were not going well the gun club I belong to bought the remainder of the tickets. The club bought like 95% of the tickets available. Who won the gun you ask? Why his employee of course. Consequently I will NEVER buy into a raffle as I think they are all crooked.
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