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Posted: 4/27/2017 10:41:17 PM EDT
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President Trump threatened to terminate the U.S. trade agreement with South Korea in an interview Thursday night, declaring that the five-year-old accord with a key ally was “a horrible deal” that has left America “destroyed.” And Trump wants South Korea to pay the costs of the missile system being used to defend against North Korea. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-we-may-terminate-us-south-korea-trade-agreement/2017/04/27/75ad1218-2bad-11e7-a616-d7c8a68c1a66_story.html Uh what? That's insane. |
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Posted: 4/27/2017 10:42:28 PM EDT
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Uh what? That's insane. 
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Posted: 4/27/2017 10:43:56 PM EDT
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If China plays this right, South Korea will hand us our hat and coat.
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Posted: 4/27/2017 10:44:11 PM EDT
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Yes. No fucks given even on brink of war. Love it.
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Posted: 4/27/2017 10:44:16 PM EDT
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President Trump threatened to terminate the U.S. trade agreement with South Korea in an interview Thursday night, declaring that the five-year-old accord with a key ally was “a horrible deal” that has left America “destroyed.” And Trump wants South Korea to pay the costs of the missile system being used to defend against North Korea. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-we-may-terminate-us-south-korea-trade-agreement/2017/04/27/75ad1218-2bad-11e7-a616-d7c8a68c1a66_story.html Good! It is about fucking time! |
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Posted: 4/27/2017 10:44:24 PM EDT
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No. That is leverage gwasshoppa. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Uh what? That's insane. |
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Posted: 4/27/2017 10:44:46 PM EDT
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Uh what? That's insane. - Obama deals = bad - Trump deals = good |
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Posted: 4/27/2017 10:46:24 PM EDT
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No. That is leverage gwasshoppa. |
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Posted: 4/27/2017 10:49:20 PM EDT
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Trade deals need to be beneficial to all sides, most of the past trade deals benefited our partners FAR more then they ever benefited us.
In real life, that's called getting fvcked over. Like having someone trade you their spark plug for your Corvette. |
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Posted: 4/27/2017 10:49:20 PM EDT
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Leverage to do what? Charge an ally for a missile defense system that serves our purpose as much as Seoul's? Leave that system there on our dollar; if anything, if the DPRK successfully launched any kind of meaningful attack, we'd be back at war again per our treaties/pacts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No. That is leverage gwasshoppa. |
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Posted: 4/27/2017 10:50:11 PM EDT
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Yes. No fucks given even on brink of war. Love it. |
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Posted: 4/27/2017 10:53:03 PM EDT
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Fair trade should be fair.
The US and the American worker always seem to get the shit end of the stick in trade deals. |
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Posted: 4/27/2017 10:56:20 PM EDT
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Trade deals need to be beneficial to all sides, most of the past trade deals benefited our partners FAR more then they ever benefited us. In real life, that's called getting fvcked over. Like having someone trade you their spark plug for your Corvette. I like South Korea, but they are a wealthy country that can afford to pay more for their defense. |
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Posted: 4/27/2017 10:59:31 PM EDT
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If China plays this right, South Korea will hand us our hat and coat. http://shanghaiist.com/2017/03/22/south_koreans_like_japan_over_china.php |
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Posted: 4/27/2017 11:00:12 PM EDT
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Leverage to do what? Charge an ally for a missile defense system that serves our purpose as much as Seoul's? Leave that system there on our dollar; if anything, if the DPRK successfully launched any kind of meaningful attack, we'd be back at war again per our treaties/pacts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No. That is leverage gwasshoppa. Considering the only reason they don't have to clap until their hand bleed because Kim farted, is us investing in their existence as a free society. 
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Posted: 4/27/2017 11:00:29 PM EDT
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Well, I see that Hyundai and Kia seem to be doing well here in the US.
I have no idea how US cars are doing in South Korea. I'm guessing it is much like Japan, most American cars are too big and gas inefficient. Only certain vehicles with a niche market do well. If there's a trade imbalance, that's not good. As for the missile system, if Trump wants to charge South Korea, that's okay as long as he does the same for every country that has a US base or military weapons for their protection. That 's like a bunch of European countries. |
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Posted: 4/27/2017 11:04:26 PM EDT
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How dare he try and negotiate favorable deals for his constituents.
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Posted: 4/27/2017 11:05:43 PM EDT
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Good Samsung can kiss my ass , Bring back Daewoo rifles
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Posted: 4/27/2017 11:13:44 PM EDT
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So we ruffled the feathers of the north, then renegotiated the defense deal of the south. NY values at work - that is some smooth operating there.
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Posted: 4/27/2017 11:17:41 PM EDT
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lol, good. Pay up bitches, you're not poor.
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Posted: 4/27/2017 11:29:42 PM EDT
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No. That is leverage gwasshoppa. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Uh what? That's insane. No better time to renegotiate a trade deal than when the trading partner is about to blown into oblivion & you're the only thing stopping it.
Good business a tots best. That's why I voted for him!! |
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Posted: 4/27/2017 11:33:06 PM EDT
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Leverage to do what? Charge an ally for a missile defense system that serves our purpose as much as Seoul's? Leave that system there on our dollar; if anything, if the DPRK successfully launched any kind of meaningful attack, we'd be back at war again per our treaties/pacts. |
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Posted: 4/27/2017 11:33:34 PM EDT
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If I was the ROK in charge of such matters I'd simply show how much cheaper a PLA garrison would cost vs US troops and see if Trump could match it,pull something straight from Art of the Deal. They conduct a few times as much business with the Chinese as they do the US and from the Chinese side,they trade around 25 times more with South Korea than they do with their supposed puppet in the north. A war would be very,very bad for business so why not just replace the expensive Americans with just enough PLA for Un to know how bad things would go if he attacks? That's bigly 4D maneuvering.
Americans go home,taxpayers are saved a heap of money Un doesn't dare to attack China Japan then cuts another bigly deal with China so that Americans can leave there too Americans focus on fixing America and are happier with themselves If Americans are really in need of using the military somewhere there is always Mexico Make me UN Secretary General and I'll have every problem solved in a week. It will be the following week that might get sporty 
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Posted: 4/27/2017 11:41:01 PM EDT
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I bet the powers that be at Hyundai and Kia are shitting their pants right about now.
LOL |
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Posted: 4/27/2017 11:42:10 PM EDT
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Lol. This man is a genius.
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Posted: 4/27/2017 11:46:52 PM EDT
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No. That is leverage gwasshoppa. I see a Bentley in my garage for $250/mo. TC P.S.--Everyone wants to be a wheeler-dealer until it's time to do wheeler-dealer shit. 
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Posted: 4/27/2017 11:58:09 PM EDT
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I bet the powers that be at Hyundai and Kia are shitting their pants right about now. LOL |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 12:07:18 AM EDT
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Good.
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Posted: 4/28/2017 2:04:21 AM EDT
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This. It's a good time to make a deal. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Uh what? That's insane. |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 2:17:27 AM EDT
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Damn those 250 or so South Korean companies with manufacturing facilities and other operations in the US that employ thousands upon thousands of Americans.
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Posted: 4/28/2017 3:47:59 AM EDT
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Damn those 250 or so South Korean companies with manufacturing facilities and other operations in the US that employ thousands upon thousands of Americans.
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Posted: 4/28/2017 4:45:37 AM EDT
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Uh what? That's insane. |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 5:39:26 AM EDT
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Damn those 250 or so South Korean companies with manufacturing facilities and other operations in the US that employ thousands upon thousands of Americans. A South Korean company manufacturing a car in the US and selling it to Americans in the US is not considered trade. If Ford manufactures a car in Mexico, then imports it into the US and sells it to Americans, that is trade. They probably manufacture most components in South Korea and just assemble it here anyways, still helping South Korea more, and in which case, the components would count as trade. Yes, the deal is one sided, yes, America gets fucked over, and yes, we need to stop getting fucked over. LOL at the idea of South Korea having China defend them. China is the reason they didn't beat the Norks the first time, and China is the only reason North Korea still exists today. What the fuck kind of threat would it be to the US if they wanted to replace us with Chinese defenders? I would laugh in their face, flip them the keys, and walk away slowly until they beg for forgiveness and give me anything I want to come back to the table. |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 6:09:13 AM EDT
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Fair trade should be fair. The US and the American worker always seem to get the shit end of the stick in trade deals. |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 6:14:20 AM EDT
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If I was the ROK in charge of such matters I'd simply show how much cheaper a PLA garrison would cost vs US troops and see if Trump could match it,pull something straight from Art of the Deal. They conduct a few times as much business with the Chinese as they do the US and from the Chinese side,they trade around 25 times more with South Korea than they do with their supposed puppet in the north. A war would be very,very bad for business so why not just replace the expensive Americans with just enough PLA for Un to know how bad things would go if he attacks? That's bigly 4D maneuvering. Americans go home,taxpayers are saved a heap of money Un doesn't dare to attack China Japan then cuts another bigly deal with China so that Americans can leave there too Americans focus on fixing America and are happier with themselves If Americans are really in need of using the military somewhere there is always Mexico Make me UN Secretary General and I'll have every problem solved in a week. It will be the following week that might get sporty |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 6:16:30 AM EDT
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Wow! he needs to cancel the deal and renegotiate it. Put America first. We are losers on every trade deal we have entered in the last 30 plus years. We have no obligation to defend SK other than an agreement we made when we were trying to stop the spread of communism. They can help pay for their own defense. It won't change a fucking thing in America if SK is lost. I'm all for helping them but paying for everything on both ends is ridiculous. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Leverage to do what? Charge an ally for a missile defense system that serves our purpose as much as Seoul's? Leave that system there on our dollar; if anything, if the DPRK successfully launched any kind of meaningful attack, we'd be back at war again per our treaties/pacts. How is the USA so bad at economics, but has such a powerful economy? |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 6:18:51 AM EDT
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Like having someone trade you their spark plug for your Corvette. |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 6:24:47 AM EDT
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+1 I like South Korea, but they are a wealthy country that can afford to pay more for their defense. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trade deals need to be beneficial to all sides, most of the past trade deals benefited our partners FAR more then they ever benefited us. In real life, that's called getting fvcked over. Like having someone trade you their spark plug for your Corvette. I like South Korea, but they are a wealthy country that can afford to pay more for their defense. |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 6:44:33 AM EDT
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Well, I see that Hyundai and Kia seem to be doing well here in the US. I have no idea how US cars are doing in South Korea. I'm guessing it is much like Japan, most American cars are too big and gas inefficient. Only certain vehicles with a niche market do well. If there's a trade imbalance, that's not good. As for the missile system, if Trump wants to charge South Korea, that's okay as long as he does the same for every country that has a US base or military weapons for their protection. That 's like a bunch of European countries. |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 6:50:23 AM EDT
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After reading all the comments, it is amazing to learn that the country with the most powerful economy in the world does such bad deals. How is the USA so bad at economics, but has such a powerful economy? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Leverage to do what? Charge an ally for a missile defense system that serves our purpose as much as Seoul's? Leave that system there on our dollar; if anything, if the DPRK successfully launched any kind of meaningful attack, we'd be back at war again per our treaties/pacts. How is the USA so bad at economics, but has such a powerful economy? |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 6:56:00 AM EDT
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Trump wants South Korea to pay the costs of the missile system being used to defend against North Korea. |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 7:34:14 AM EDT
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South Korea says they aren't paying for the US missiles.
http://www.livemint.com/Politics/Yx11gYtYOrWILV38bWJk9N/South-Korea-rejects-Donald-Trumps-demand-to-pay-for-Thaad-m.html |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 7:47:38 AM EDT
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Yes. No fucks given even on brink of war. Love it. |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 7:49:59 AM EDT
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Agreed. The only reason we support South Korea is because they're not North Korea. |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 7:50:27 AM EDT
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Leverage to do what? Charge an ally for a missile defense system that serves our purpose as much as Seoul's? Leave that system there on our dollar; if anything, if the DPRK successfully launched any kind of meaningful attack, we'd be back at war again per our treaties/pacts. |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 8:12:17 AM EDT
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Foreign cars are almost non-existent in Korea. They have protectionist policies that would make the most hardcore Trumpista jealous. There's good reason for Trump to call them on their shit. Maybe not good timing, but good reason. The U.S. unilaterally egging on N. Korea and now whining about trade will empower and embolden the anti-U.S. And Leftist (much overlap there, but I digress) factions in S. Korea, where the domestic political system is already in great turmoil. This could ultimately greatly weaken U.S. influence there. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, I see that Hyundai and Kia seem to be doing well here in the US. I have no idea how US cars are doing in South Korea. I'm guessing it is much like Japan, most American cars are too big and gas inefficient. Only certain vehicles with a niche market do well. If there's a trade imbalance, that's not good. As for the missile system, if Trump wants to charge South Korea, that's okay as long as he does the same for every country that has a US base or military weapons for their protection. That 's like a bunch of European countries. |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 8:13:57 AM EDT
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SK are like the basement dwelling millennial that won't move out of the house. It's about time they grew up shown an interest in taking care of themselves. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Agreed. The only reason we support South Korea is because they're not North Korea. |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 8:14:53 AM EDT
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After reading all the comments, it is amazing to learn that the country with the most powerful economy in the world does such bad deals. How is the USA so bad at economics, but has such a powerful economy? |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 8:14:57 AM EDT
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What alta-expensive US cars are Koreans supposed to buy? Gov't subsidized chevy volts? LOL Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, I see that Hyundai and Kia seem to be doing well here in the US. I have no idea how US cars are doing in South Korea. I'm guessing it is much like Japan, most American cars are too big and gas inefficient. Only certain vehicles with a niche market do well. If there's a trade imbalance, that's not good. As for the missile system, if Trump wants to charge South Korea, that's okay as long as he does the same for every country that has a US base or military weapons for their protection. That 's like a bunch of European countries. |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 9:09:49 AM EDT
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Seems a lot of folks here have no idea that the U.S. pretty much dictates U.S. force structure and composition to the Koreans, based on U.S. interests. If the Koreans have no say in it, why should they pay for it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Agreed. The only reason we support South Korea is because they're not North Korea.
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