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Link Posted: 3/28/2017 9:52:00 AM EDT
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I can't remember any point in my lifetime where Africa wasn't wrought with drought, famine, starvation.

Seems like the natural order there.
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Exactly. When you live in a shithole constantly subjected to internal strife, those things tend to happen...a lot.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 9:54:52 AM EDT
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They need to fix themselves first. Most of Africa has been in some sort of strife since the late 50's.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 9:57:05 AM EDT
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If this was that big a deal, I'm sure Obama would have donated the balance of his pension towards food for his hungry kin.  Until he does, I'm not gonna get too worked up about it.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 9:58:03 AM EDT
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How's that "throw out the white farmers" shit working out for you all.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 9:59:37 AM EDT
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193 nations make up the UN and it's the worst humanitarian crisis if just one decides to cut foreign aid?
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This.  Time for Europe to put its own money where its mouth is.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:01:54 AM EDT
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This.  Time for Europe to put its own money where its mouth is.
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193 nations make up the UN and it's the worst humanitarian crisis if just one decides to cut foreign aid?
This.  Time for Europe to put its own money where its mouth is.
Shut yo' mouth, they too busy dealin' with all those women and children from Muslim countries..........Europe can only do so much.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:02:59 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:03:56 AM EDT
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I don't care.  I'm sick of paying for other people who are too stupid or lazy to help themselves.  The fruits of my labor should benefit MY children, not some irresponsible breeder's children.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:04:01 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:04:35 AM EDT
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How long could the "conflict fueled hunger crisis" continue without our food?
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:04:42 AM EDT
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The "experts" referred to in OP's post should go to the United Nations.  Convince other countries to kick in enough money, or admit that the "experts" are, at the same time trying to guilt trip, and threaten the USA into being the primary cash cow.  

An alternative would be to admit that the UN isn't really "United", and most of the world's governments do not care enough to put up enough money to fight hunger in Africa, any more than they were interested in stopping the genocide in South Sudan.

I am so glad that Trump is using his policies to point out to the world how much of a cash cow the USA has become.  Helping other countries is well and fine when other countries help on an equal basis.  But during the past 50 years, the USA has borne the majority of financial costs, and the cost of our troops.   Neither cost is acceptable.

Share, and share ALIKE, or take a hike.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:05:55 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:09:15 AM EDT
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Humanitarian aid is what led in many ways to the situations we see all over Africa today. Those environments cannot sustain the populations that festered in those areas. Dropping foodstuffs and supplies allowed for more reproduction whereas it wouldn't have happened if it was not for outside interference.

Welfare in this country has had the same impact on a household level, where some girl pops her first crotch biscuit at 15 and by 22 she has four fucking kids with NO WAY of supporting them herself. One of my old employees was exactly that, dumb, had no concern of the quality of life for her or the lives she brought into this world and was fully dependent on the State (US) to feed and house her brood. People like that are nothing more than simple animals and should be treated as such.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:10:51 AM EDT
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"You have 19 countries facing some degree of food stress in Africa, and three of them are facing famine conditions.

All three of them are facing conflict, and the vast majority of the countries facing more serious crises are non-democratic governments," Siegle said.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:13:20 AM EDT
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OUTSTANDING!  Maybe the blacks will stop the crap happening to SA farmers  Hey we starving now come back and feed us.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:14:17 AM EDT
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Only 4 billion? Let's not overreact, I got this, just PM me the address and I'll front them $100 trillion. That Zimbabwean money's been crowding up my safe anyway.

As long as they understand that there may come a day when I ask them for something, that day may never come, but if it does...
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:15:36 AM EDT
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All those farms that have been taken from white landowners, and they still can't provide for themselves.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:18:10 AM EDT
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Don't care, don't give a shit..

If the entire population of Africa starved, it would not effect me one iota...

So again, don't care....we should not send monet to anyone...fuck em....
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:19:30 AM EDT
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If you make 50K a year, and you're 300K in debt, do you give your dysfunctional cousin a handout when he asks?
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Everyone, no matter how fucked up they are, deserves their basic needs of survival.  Safe drinking water, food, clothing, protection from the elements...

It's not a right, per se, but it is the recognition of human dignity.  There is a moral duty to respect that.  Nobody has a "right" to your charity, but you do have a moral duty to provide it.

If my methhead cousin said he was hungry, I can spare fifty cents for a PB&J, you know?  It's the right thing to do.


The problem is, this money isn't going necessarily towards giving hungry people food.  And, even if it did, simply dropping food off the back of a truck is not necessarily the just way to help people.  We're talking about social justice here (the real thing, not the made-up bullshit about 31 flavors of gender), and that's not just about food.  Plus, it's worth noting that it's not charity anyhow, since it begins by first stealing the money from other people.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:20:18 AM EDT
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How is money going to solve a hunger problem?

Are they going to eat the money?

WHy aren't they asking for food?
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Because the people who are asking for the money already have all the food they require but want more money.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:24:23 AM EDT
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4.4 billion divided by 320 million equals 13.75.


Aka every single person in this country is paying 14 bucks

When you break down the cost of billions into cost per person it gets sad really fast.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:24:31 AM EDT
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This.  Time for Europe to put its own money where its mouth is.
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193 nations make up the UN and it's the worst humanitarian crisis if just one decides to cut foreign aid?
This.  Time for Europe to put its own money where its mouth is.
It reminds me of the tantrum after a parent has to tell their older children that they're adults now and have to pay for their own needs.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:24:39 AM EDT
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Something like $13B a year gets scammed by nigerians. They can feed themselves.

I think they just might have some diamonds and uranium and and and that could help feed them as well.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:24:43 AM EDT
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We got enough Africans to feed already
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Truer words have never been uttered.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:25:17 AM EDT
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If you have rats in your house, is feeding them going to solve the problem?

I don't think so.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:25:52 AM EDT
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Everyone, no matter how fucked up they are, deserves their basic needs of survival.  Safe drinking water, food, clothing, protection from the elements...

It's not a right, per se, but it is the recognition of human dignity.  There is a moral duty to respect that.  Nobody has a "right" to your charity, but you do have a moral duty to provide it.

If my methhead cousin said he was hungry, I can spare fifty cents for a PB&J, you know?  It's the right thing to do.


The problem is, this money isn't going necessarily towards giving hungry people food.  And, even if it did, simply dropping food off the back of a truck is not necessarily the just way to help people.  We're talking about social justice here (the real thing, not the made-up bullshit about 31 flavors of gender), and that's not just about food.  Plus, it's worth noting that it's not charity anyhow, since it begins by first stealing the money from other people.
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Great, donate your paycheck, don't ask me to give  any of mine,  cause I don't care...

You sound like a lib...
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:28:36 AM EDT
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Eating three meals a day is a White man's tradition and the fact that they also want to eat is nothing more than  Cultural appropriation.  Its disgusting.  
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:30:21 AM EDT
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We can best aid them by supplying them with free birth control, vaccines, and WiFi.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:30:45 AM EDT
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This video explains everything about the foreign aid scam in painful detail, long but worth it:

Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:31:03 AM EDT
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Send them books on farming and some seeds. Done.  Cant read? Go fuck yourself.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:32:07 AM EDT
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Everyone, no matter how fucked up they are, deserves their basic needs of survival.  Safe drinking water, food, clothing, protection from the elements...

It's not a right, per se, but it is the recognition of human dignity.  There is a moral duty to respect that.  Nobody has a "right" to your charity, but you do have a moral duty to provide it.

If my methhead cousin said he was hungry, I can spare fifty cents for a PB&J, you know?  It's the right thing to do.


The problem is, this money isn't going necessarily towards giving hungry people food.  And, even if it did, simply dropping food off the back of a truck is not necessarily the just way to help people.  We're talking about social justice here (the real thing, not the made-up bullshit about 31 flavors of gender), and that's not just about food.  Plus, it's worth noting that it's not charity anyhow, since it begins by first stealing the money from other people.
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Helping someone get on the path to help themselves is the moral action to take, and that's in all situations micro and macro. Simply giving someone something because they are in need, when their current situation was self inflicted, is not helping but enabling.

There is no easy solution for Africa, but whatever the solution will be is starts and ends with Africa. I'm totally for helping them along the path but I will not give willy nilly without them walking it first.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:32:57 AM EDT
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We got enough Africans to feed already
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Nailed it.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:37:24 AM EDT
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We got enough Africans to feed already
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Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:37:44 AM EDT
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This can of Coke is delicious. 
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:39:01 AM EDT
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I don't like give my money to welfare leeches here in the U.S.

I sure as fuck don't want it going to leeches in other countries.

Starvation in Africa is a self-solving problem.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 10:54:27 AM EDT
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Africans brought in the Great White Hunters to kill off the major predators and hazardous species in the 1930's in order to develop farmland and have the African actually become more independent.

Total failure. We now have exterminated the herds - just like our elk and buffalo - and Islam and Socialism has done everything possible to gather the people in cities where they can control them to their ends.

Do you see this problem in India? No. If anything their farmers are over fertilizing and doing too much to raise even more crops. Africa? Despots and dictators because we prop them up with billions of dollars to buy them off. But the people still starve, and the more their governments try to make it a workers paradise the more farmland they seize - for themselves.

We are financing a revolving door of entrenched governments ignoring the people and when revolution comes it's just another Mugabe wannabe who's actually in it for the money.

Sure, send him $4.4 billion - and the people will still starve.

It's the countries who had to pull themself up by their own hard work who are thriving in Africa, the sooner we stop trying to "help" the better. Trump DOES need to cut aid, it will force the UN to either come up with a financial workaround from other countries, or expose the scam for what it is. It will also disempower the neverTrumpers in State left behind by HRC and Obama who are doing everything they can to topple OUR government.

$4.4 billion is pocket change for the Saudis, lets see how humanitarian they are.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 11:03:42 AM EDT
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People should read this, which was written by an African American.

Kim DuToit "Let Africa Sink"
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 11:04:15 AM EDT
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There used to be a few countries in Africa that served as its breadbasket and were able to not only feed themselves, but others as well.

Now, due to the same sort of bleating liberal thought processes that precipitated this thread,  those countries are erased and their farmlands have been "redistributed" .

Tough shit now I guess.
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This right here. There needs to be juxtaposition photos of Rhodesia and SA, then and now posted everywhere.

Also, there is PLENTY of food. Africa turned down our GMO corn because of the "dangers" .....better to starve, I guess. Another thing is, food is used as power. He who controls the food controls the people. He who has the guns controls the food.

It's not rocket surgery. But, most Americans are not all that bright or informed as can be readily seen everywhere.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 11:09:14 AM EDT
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This Coke is tasty!
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 11:12:17 AM EDT
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Everyone, no matter how fucked up they are, deserves their basic needs of survival.  Safe drinking water, food, clothing, protection from the elements...

It's not a right, per se, but it is the recognition of human dignity.  There is a moral duty to respect that.  Nobody has a "right" to your charity, but you do have a moral duty to provide it.

If my methhead cousin said he was hungry, I can spare fifty cents for a PB&J, you know?  It's the right thing to do.


The problem is, this money isn't going necessarily towards giving hungry people food.  And, even if it did, simply dropping food off the back of a truck is not necessarily the just way to help people.  We're talking about social justice here (the real thing, not the made-up bullshit about 31 flavors of gender), and that's not just about food.  Plus, it's worth noting that it's not charity anyhow, since it begins by first stealing the money from other people.
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How much time have you spent there?

Go there and interact with people who have to be taught that if you dig a fucking hole in the ground, it may fill up with water, and you won't have to walk twenty miles to a stagnant water hole, and fight lions for the water.

No thanks.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 11:15:23 AM EDT
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We be president.......oh wait...waatt?
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 11:16:28 AM EDT
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Sounds like an Africa problem. Best to let Africans handle it.
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We can tell and show them how to solve their problems, gratis. If they choose not to act on that wisdom then their blood is on their own heads.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 11:16:31 AM EDT
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We feed poor Muslim African countries so they can produce more African Muslims.....and they do reproduce...


And on that note. I would not mind my tax $ going to Etheopia. But F! Zimbabwe and the rest of North Africa.
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I would not mind my tax money going to vets.

Fuck anyone else until we're good.

Fuck that shit.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 11:20:02 AM EDT
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Feed us or we will kill you
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"I've never seen this kind of threat to what otherwise has been a bipartisan consensus that food aid and humanitarian assistance programs are morally essential and critical to our security," Steven Feldstein, a former deputy assistant secretary of state in the Obama administration, told The Associated Press.
Feed us or we will kill you
As I've noted before, the State Dept. is infested (at the highest levels of management) with communists. I noticed this during the Reagan Administration and nothing has changed. State Dept. needs to be sterilized at the top. Because of lifetime positions, I don't know if this is possible. Well, not actually lifetime positions, just positions that are difficult to remove people from once they are vested.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 11:21:34 AM EDT
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Oh well
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 11:22:05 AM EDT
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Everyone, no matter how fucked up they are, deserves their basic needs of survival.  Safe drinking water, food, clothing, protection from the elements...

It's not a right, per se, but it is the recognition of human dignity.  There is a moral duty to respect that.  Nobody has a "right" to your charity, but you do have a moral duty to provide it.

If my methhead cousin said he was hungry, I can spare fifty cents for a PB&J, you know?  It's the right thing to do.


The problem is, this money isn't going necessarily towards giving hungry people food.  And, even if it did, simply dropping food off the back of a truck is not necessarily the just way to help people.  We're talking about social justice here (the real thing, not the made-up bullshit about 31 flavors of gender), and that's not just about food.  Plus, it's worth noting that it's not charity anyhow, since it begins by first stealing the money from other people.
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No. It's NOT the right thing to do. You just ruined his fucking life.

You just defined the FSA that decides not to work because someone will held responsible to pay for their mortgage and food.

You think someone's going to suddenly buy the milk when they've been getting it for free?

If a carnivore decides it's too lazy to hunt, rip motherfuckers.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 11:23:51 AM EDT
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I don't care
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You heartless bastard!! Oh, wait, neither do I!!
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 11:25:01 AM EDT
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Move to where the food is (in Africa).
Don't live in the desert.
Or don't, I don't really care. If people are so inept as to providing sustenance to keep themselves alive, we should let the problem solve itself.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 11:25:18 AM EDT
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Send them condons, and birth control pills. Charity begins at home.
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The birth control pills, I get, but what's a hockey goalie going to do there?  I can't imagine it's a very popular sport in Africa.
Link Posted: 3/28/2017 11:25:23 AM EDT
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I have never supported the aid program in the way it just supports populations like welfare ( outside of natural disasters). By providing more food arent we deterring these nations from supporting themselves? I'd rather help them fish then buy them fish. Tough love.
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