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Posted: 3/26/2017 8:56:56 AM EDT
1st Twin Peaks shootout trial again delayed



A judge postponed the first Twin Peaks shootout biker trial Friday for the second time after a new attorney was brought onto the case and said she could not be prepared by the May 22 trial date.
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Christopher Jacob Carrizal, a member of the Bandidos motorcycle group, was set to be the first biker tried in the May 17, 2015, Twin Peaks shootout that left nine bikers dead and dozens wounded.
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“What’s going on here?” Strother asked. “This matter has been pending almost two years now. We have a panel here today ready to go. Somebody better explain this to me.”

Northcutt, of Stephenville, said he and Carrizal have a conflict and Carrizal no longer wants his representation. Strother asked the nature of the conflict, and Northcutt said he had not been paid. He asked the judge if Gotro, of Houston, could substitute in as Carrizal’s lawyer.
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“Y’all forgive me if the court is a little skeptical about the timing of this event,” Strother said.
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“Mr. Carrizal, you can hire any lawyer you want to but you are going to trial May 22,” the judge said. “Y’all are playing games with the process. This is a sham. I am not going to allow it or put up with it.”
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http://www.wacotrib.com/news/twin-peaks-biker-shooting/st-twin-peaks-shootout-trial-again-delayed/article_c48cef42-fd16-53e7-bf4d-240f38705f50.html
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410 Pistol FTW!
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Evidently it wasn't "for the win".
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 9:25:59 AM EDT
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Is the moral here shave off your goatee?
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 9:27:28 AM EDT
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drag it out make Waco pay.or better yet drop all the charges before it comes out who really killed most of the bikers.
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Christopher Jacob Carrizal (left) had his trial delayed Friday after he got a new attorney. He had the earliest trial date among the 155 bikers indicted in the Twin Peaks shootout. His father, Christopher Julian Carrizal (back) and Jerry Edward Pierson are among those indicted, also.
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 9:29:33 AM EDT
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Yeah, we already know. The scumbag OMG bikers shot each other, it's on video broseph.

DPS Pole Cam, Twin Peaks, Waco, TX Incident May 17, 2015
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 9:32:52 AM EDT
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I took a detour on a road trip to see the place right after in happened.   The area where most of the deaths occurred is surprisingly small. maybe 20'x15' in the parking lot and a little bit of the outside patio.

The company flat out sterilized the entire property. No logos, signs, stickers in the windows, not even a used paper napkin in the dumpster.  The parking lot and patio had been pressure washed and all the windows covered.  The Mexican restaurant where a  lot of the witnesses watched thru the windows is maybe 40' away.

They'll probably demolish the building  after the trials are complete, it's a pretty unique design.
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Yeah, we already know. The scumbag OMG bikers shot each other, it's on video broseph.
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The good part is where Waco PD shot most of the murderers in the process.  That saved the court a lot of extra trials.

You have two sets of bodies. One's killed with  5.56 and the rest from a variety of bullet/knife/blunt instrument wounds.  

Guess which set this fuckheads are on trial for?
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 9:41:12 AM EDT
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Ryan Craft is innocent due to no facial hair.

Morgan English is guilty because.
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 9:42:28 AM EDT
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Hang with outlaws get shot like outlaws.  Rightfully so too if you start fucking shooting in a public establishment.  

I bet if you asked these thugs 1 hour beforehand, they would tell you they are part of the gang.  Once they open fire and the police come in and lay waste, they all of a sudden are innocent bystanders.  
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What a bunch of moronic needle dicks.
Most are old enough to be grand fathers and here they are out and about in that biker garb acting all bad ass and such.
Christ....What a mind set.
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 9:52:33 AM EDT
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not enough died that day
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I find it funny as hell that the one guy hasn't paid his lawyer in two years.   He's facing life in prison and he stiffs the one guy that can keep him out of it.

Bet he has brand new tassels on his handlebars though.
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 9:56:42 AM EDT
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None of those killed or indicted were even romtely a positive influence in society. They chose to be bad assed bikers and got exactly what they deserved. Watch the video footage, fuck all of them for endangering the public like that.
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I didn't even realize anyone died till this thread.  That or I forgot.
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In one of the original threads multiple people including myself commented that if all of them demanded a their right to a speedy trial it would likely have overwhelmed the prosecutors and increased the chances of getting off.

They should have taken more time and care when making charges in my opinion.
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In one of the original threads multiple people including myself commented that if all of them demanded a their right to a speedy trial it would likely have overwhelmed the prosecutors and increased the chances of getting off.

They should have taken more time and care when making charges in my opinion.
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The charges are quite correct and the prosecution has been ready for trial for over a year.

It's been two years, the delay is because of the defense.  

It's the only way they can stay out of prison. Every damn one of these jackasses is on multiple videos.  None of them is getting an "innocent" verdict out of this process.
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The good part is where Waco PD shot most of the murderers in the process.  That saved the court a lot of extra trials.

You have two sets of bodies. One's killed with  5.56 and the rest from a variety of bullet/knife/blunt instrument wounds.  

Guess which set this fuckheads are on trial for?
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Waco shot anybody with a gun in their hand weather they ere defending themselves or not.
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:29:28 AM EDT
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Waco shot anybody with a gun in their hand weather they ere defending themselves or not.
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Why are you defending scumbag gang members who rape, murder, rob, and steal from law abiding citizens? Shameful.
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:30:10 AM EDT
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And one of these days, we'll finally figure out who really killed Nicole Brown Simpson.
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:30:11 AM EDT
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Asshole prosecution just data bombed the defense.  Can't expect them to sift through terabytes of info in short amounts of time.
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Waco shot anybody with a gun in their hand weather they ere defending themselves or not.
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No they didn't or the body count would have been a LOT higher.  Note the pictures above.

You cannot use self defense as an argument during a gang war shootout.  None of your heroes had CHL's either.  

Didn't you say in one of these that you were getting away from the biker life before you got killed?  Whatever happened to that?
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Why are you defending scumbag gang members who rape, murder, rob, and steal from law abiding citizens? Shameful.
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You sound like a complete ignorant msm hypnotyzed sheep.
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:32:27 AM EDT
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Asshole prosecution just data bombed the defense.  Can't expect them to sift through terabytes of info in short amounts of time.
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the defense asked for everything (even went on TV demanding it) , they got everything.  It's been two YEARS and dozens of court appearances.  They have had plenty of time.

At this point the only thing they are accomplishing is pissing off the judge.
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You sound like a complete ignorant msm hypnotyzed sheep.
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So, Cossack, Bandido or one of their feeder clubs?
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:34:36 AM EDT
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No they didn't or the body count would have been a LOT higher.  Note the pictures above.

You cannot use self defense as an argument during a gang war shootout.  None of your heroes had CHL's either.  

Didn't you say in one of these that you were getting away from the biker life before you got killed?  Whatever happened to that?
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I got out over 20 years ago. so now we just go along with what the government says happened? like they never lied before.
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No they didn't or the body count would have been a LOT higher.  Note the pictures above.

You cannot use self defense as an argument during a gang war shootout.  None of your heroes had CHL's either.  

Didn't you say in one of these that you were getting away from the biker life before you got killed?  Whatever happened to that?
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CHLs definitely make you more innocent.  Rules are good, laws are great.
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Sometimes it works
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The charges are quite correct and the prosecution has been ready for trial for over a year.

It's been two years, the delay is because of the defense.  

It's the only way they can stay out of prison. Every damn one of these jackasses is on multiple videos.  None of them is getting an "innocent" verdict out of this process.
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No. The prosecution put into evidence terabytes of bs fluffer. It's a tactic used by the government to overwhelm t the defense and cause the defendants to go broke before trial.
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:37:13 AM EDT
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I got out over 20 years ago. so now we just go along with what the government says happened? like they never lied before.
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SUUUURREE you did. You were active in them two years ago when this occurred. Put yourself forward as a subject matter expert in fact.


I'm going by what I found on scene, my own experiences with bikers and what is shown in the videos. I don't need the govt to tell me the sky is blue and water is wet.
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You sound like a complete ignorant msm hypnotyzed sheep.
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Why are you defending scumbag gang members who rape, murder, rob, and steal from law abiding citizens? Shameful.
You sound like a complete ignorant msm hypnotyzed sheep.
Which club are you bootlicking for?
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No. The prosecution put into evidence terabytes of bs fluffer. It's a tactic used by the government to overwhelm t the defense and cause the defendants to go broke before trial.
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Do you even know what a terabyte is?  You obviously have no idea how discovery works.
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SUUUURREE you did. You were active in them two years ago when this occurred. Put yourself forward as a subject matter expert in fact.


I'm going by what I found on scene, my own experiences with bikers and what is shown in the videos. I don't need the govt to tell me the sky is blue and water is wet.
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right ..and how many kids burned at Waco by a fire the government said they didn't start?
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I got out over 20 years ago. so now we just go along with what the government says happened? like they never lied before.
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Have you seen the video?  Lots of security cameras were rolling inside.

The pictures above in this thread are screen captures.
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Have you seen the video?  Lots of security cameras were rolling inside.

The pictures above in this thread are screen captures.
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so  are they defending themselves or not? looks like the first.
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right ..and how many kids burned at Waco by a fire the government said they didn't start?
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Ahh, deflect the topic and run like hell. Typical.
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Do you even know what a terabyte is?  You obviously have no idea how discovery works.
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No. The prosecution put into evidence terabytes of bs fluffer. It's a tactic used by the government to overwhelm t the defense and cause the defendants to go broke before trial.
Do you even know what a terabyte is?  You obviously have no idea how discovery works.
If there's a bunch of video and high resolution photos then it's not an impossible number.
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:44:33 AM EDT
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so  are they defending themselves or not? looks like the first.
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Not.  Already proven.
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If there's a bunch of video and high resolution photos then it's not an impossible number.
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The comment was directed at the "fluffer" claim.  Dude seems to think it's a porn video.
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Ahh, deflect the topic and run like hell. Typical.
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nooo just that things aint always what the government tells you.
Link Posted: 3/26/2017 10:46:20 AM EDT
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Twin Peaks.... came for the cold beer and boobs

Stayed because I got murdered by a biker!
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