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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:09:44 PM EDT
[#1]
Wrong move Mr President.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:10:45 PM EDT
[#2]
Terrible idea. It makes most of Obamacare permanent.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:10:54 PM EDT
[#3]
Even if it passes the House the Senate would kill it.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:11:07 PM EDT
[#4]
Fuck it all. Feel bad for the small business owner. I work for a huge company. My insurance is free.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:12:24 PM EDT
[#5]
Good, let Obamacare collapse on its own.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:13:57 PM EDT
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Wrong move Mr President. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:14:33 PM EDT
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Good, let Obamacare collapse on its own. I can almost guarantee whoever the dems run it'll be left of Obama. Way left. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:14:49 PM EDT
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It looks like Ryan and Trump are on the same page.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:15:28 PM EDT
[#9]
how does it "collapse"? what are indications and ramifications and probable responses by industry and consumers?
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:15:41 PM EDT
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At first glance I thought WTF, but after I thought about it a bit, I'm not so sure. Trump is confident that the affordable care act will implode anyway, so he's playing a "Trump" card, either pass this now, or let the ACA implode, then they will forced to do something, and it's probably going to be something that cuts even deeper than the current bill. I think he's confident he will win, either win now and move on, or wait a while and win bigger later.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:16:10 PM EDT
[#11]
That's disappointing. I should be disappointed about this, right?
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:16:35 PM EDT
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I just don't understand why Trump is going for this Rhino Bullshit, now just reported on Fox, if the bill doesn't pass, Trump wants to go to tax reform, just don't understand this, seems like we are going backwards
Fuck Paul Ryan, piece of shit |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:17:30 PM EDT
[#13]
FDJT
too soon? |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:18:10 PM EDT
[#14]
Trump is fucking this one up bigly.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:18:14 PM EDT
[#15]
This is a really healthy debate. ObamaCare was passed with very little consideration. You could say that the debate that should have happened seven years ago is finally happening. Ryan Care may not pass and that's fine. What we eventually get out of this will be better than either.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:18:26 PM EDT
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That's disappointing. I should be disappointed about this, right? |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:18:37 PM EDT
[#17]
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Wrong move Mr President. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:19:16 PM EDT
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Wasn't Spicer on like 6 hours ago saying the vote would proceed as planned? This is hilarious. Turns out opposition coalitions don't work too well when they're no longer the opposition. Maybe, just maybe, they should have burned the time from all those symbolic repeal votes figuring out what the shit they'd do if they were back in power... |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:19:38 PM EDT
[#19]
One thing is, if it doesn't pass, which I hope it doesn't, hopefully FBHObama care will implode soon, then its on the Demos, if they pass this POS bill, then it falls on the Rhinos
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:19:48 PM EDT
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This is a really healthy debate. ObamaCare was passed with very little consideration. You could say that the debate that should have happened seven years ago is finally happening. Ryan Care may not pass and that's fine. What we eventually get out of this will be better than either. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:20:37 PM EDT
[#21]
Not a never Trumper
What the fuck, guys? |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:21:02 PM EDT
[#22]
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One thing is, if it doesn't pass, which I hope it doesn't, hopefully it will implode soon, then its on the Demos, if they pass this POS bill, then it falls on the Rhinos |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:21:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:23:13 PM EDT
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He is forcing a hasty vote so he can veto it. Trolling 101.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:24:11 PM EDT
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He is forcing a hasty vote so he can veto it. Trolling 101. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:25:06 PM EDT
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I just don't understand why Trump is going for this Rhino Bullshit, now just reported on Fox, if the bill doesn't pass, Trump wants to go to tax reform, just don't understand this, seems like we are going backwards Fuck Paul Ryan, piece of shit What can Trump do? He said he would not veto the new bill, he gave green light to do whatever. The fucking GOP can't even agree with itself. There can be no solution, we are fucked for now. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:25:16 PM EDT
[#27]
Dammit, dammit, dammit, dammit, dammit, dammit
Dammit Wtf Dammit |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:26:34 PM EDT
[#28]
I don't have a problem if dropping the issue for a few months allows the right bill to be developed. Why it was not done in the last six or seven years is beyond me. Do it right.
Go ahead and implement tax reform (cuts). If a good health care bill takes six months or eight months to properly write, so be it. Ryan is a dildo. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:26:49 PM EDT
[#29]
Not necessarily a bad idea. With no mandate, ACA WILL implode. The question is how soon. Hopefully, Repubs are in control when it does and they can shape the replacement.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:27:01 PM EDT
[#30]
Yuck.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:27:46 PM EDT
[#31]
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What option is there? The RINOS will block the conservatives from a full repeal. This is the closest compromise the GOP can possibly agree on. What can Trump do? He said he would not veto the new bill, he gave green light to do whatever. Through fucking GOP can't even agree with itself. There can be no solution, we are fucked for now. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:28:12 PM EDT
[#32]
nev
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:28:58 PM EDT
[#33]
I want Obamacare to burn.
Don't replace it. Let it collapse and realize just how much of a fucking incompetent idiot the jug eared fool was. The president who is so terrified of his legacy, he's vacationing in a third world country to avoid it. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:29:09 PM EDT
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Ditch the mandate, ditch the minimum requirements, open up HSA's and eliminate cross state restrictions. At the least that's a start.
The modified O-Care that they're proposing sucks. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:30:45 PM EDT
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Either pass it and then declare victory and move on to more popular stuff (gun bills, tax bills etc) or leave it alone and let Obamacare "fail" at which time you can blame Democrats and pass whatever the fuck you want in its place.
Unfortunately Republicans in Congress aren't smart enough to pull off either plan. They had 8 years to come up with their anti-obamacare legislation and they don't have shit. It's pathetic. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:32:01 PM EDT
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Ditch the mandate, ditch the minimum requirements, open up HSA's and eliminate cross state restrictions. At the least that's a start. The modified O-Care that they're proposing sucks. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:32:09 PM EDT
[#37]
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At first glance I thought WTF, but after I thought about it a bit, I'm not so sure. Trump is confident that the affordable care act will implode anyway, so he's playing a "Trump" card, either pass this now, or let the ACA implode, then they will forced to do something, and it's probably going to be something that cuts |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:32:17 PM EDT
[#38]
demanding? I guess he missed the part where congress can basically tell the president and his demands to go get fucked. and if he really is planning on giving up and moving to a different issue because this one bill failed, well that doesn't set a very good tone going forward with his legislative agenda.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:32:18 PM EDT
[#39]
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Either pass it and then declare victory and move on to more popular stuff (gun bills, tax bills etc) or leave it alone and let Obamacare "fail" at which time you can blame Democrats and pass whatever the fuck you want in its place. Unfortunately Republicans in Congress aren't smart enough to pull off either plan. They had 8 years to come up with their anti-obamacare legislation and they don't have shit. It's pathetic. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:32:41 PM EDT
[#40]
Trump has sure fucked this up. What a mess.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:35:07 PM EDT
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Trump has sure fucked this up. What a mess. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:35:16 PM EDT
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Wrong move Mr President. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:35:17 PM EDT
[#43]
I think you guys are underestimating trump on this. Take a deep breath.
This is almost as bad as during the election, everytime CNN said something bad about trump, everyone flocked here screaming it's over!!!111 |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:36:13 PM EDT
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Unfortunately time is of the essence. Rand Paul's idea was the best option imo. However big .gov republicans don't want to get rid of that power. Obamacare really gave them a shit ton of power. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is a really healthy debate. ObamaCare was passed with very little consideration. You could say that the debate that should have happened seven years ago is finally happening. Ryan Care may not pass and that's fine. What we eventually get out of this will be better than either. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:36:52 PM EDT
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I don't have a problem if dropping the issue for a few months allows the right bill to be developed. Why it was not done in the last six or seven years is beyond me. Do it right. Go ahead and implement tax reform (cuts). If a good health care bill takes six months or eight months to properly write, so be it. Ryan is a dildo. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:37:01 PM EDT
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Republicans want single payer.
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:37:07 PM EDT
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Trump has sure fucked this up. What a mess. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:37:22 PM EDT
[#48]
This makes America pay the price for Trump not getting his way.
That's not kosher given what they ran on. |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:37:34 PM EDT
[#49]
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Holy fuck a smart person in GD. Where the hell did you come from. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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At first glance I thought WTF, but after I thought about it a bit, I'm not so sure. Trump is confident that the affordable care act will implode anyway, so he's playing a "Trump" card, either pass this now, or let the ACA implode, then they will forced to do something, and it's probably going to be something that cuts |
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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:37:50 PM EDT
[#50]
Listen, if we can't trust Trump and Ryan, who *can* we trust?
I'm sure they have this shit all figured out. |
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