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Link Posted: 3/23/2017 3:25:20 PM EDT
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Good job on the hand lotion and tissues nearby.  

Think of this as an opertunity to move on to a 4K set.  TVs have gotten much cheaper than 4 years ago.
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Good job on the hand lotion and tissues nearby.  

Think of this as an opertunity to move on to a 4K set.  TVs have gotten much cheaper than 4 years ago.
Ha ha, caught the lotion and tissues huh!?! It's my wifes stuff. I'm already shopping for a new tv and eyeballin the 4K's! Man you aren't kidding, the price has come way down on them!

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Did you get him to admit pulling the trigger? Yes sir I did.

Are everyone's ears hurting? We were all surprised that none of our ears were ringing or hurting, even the dogs hardly reacted.

Is he gonna pay for the tv? He offered but they were struggling to buy a G-17 at dealer cost, no way they could pay for the tv. I figure that I learned a costly lessong that could've been a whole lot more costly so I got off lucky.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 3:25:57 PM EDT
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Rule #5 - Never touch someone else's gun, beer, or woman without their acknowledged permission.
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Link Posted: 3/23/2017 3:26:30 PM EDT
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What's with the lotion and tissue on your coffee table OP?
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 3:28:23 PM EDT
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Lucky you.

My good friend was killed last year in front of me by a similar incident, but at a gun range..

Sad stuff. You're really lucky.
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Lucky you.

My good friend was killed last year in front of me by a similar incident, but at a gun range..

Sad stuff. You're really lucky.
Very lucky, lesson learned. Really sorry about your friend, that's gotta be rough.
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What did rent-a-center say about it?


If you haven't figured it out yet, I'm bustin your balls man. Glad you're ok.
Ha ha, fucker! I was sitting here thinking "man, what the fuck, is this guy fucking with me or what"!?! I'm obviously a little slow.


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What's with the lotion and tissue on your coffee table OP?
Uhhhmm, it's my wifes stuff, you know, for her hands and sneezing and such, yeah, that's it!
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 3:29:09 PM EDT
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Isn't Glaser a gimmick bullet?
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Not really. One of the best options for taking out TV's
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 3:29:11 PM EDT
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Yikes,

Glad your OK. I take the round out of the chamber as soon as I un-holster my CCW when I get home.

Scary stuff.
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This. I have a decent IWB holster for concealing, but when I get home I unchamber my gun then put it in an Uncle Mike's holster. The only time a round is ever chambered is when the gun is in my concealed holster or when I'm actually shooting it.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 3:35:25 PM EDT
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Since you in the market, check this one out. We just got one after my kid killed our TV w/ a plastic toy. Pretty happy with it. Of course you could add another grand and get an OLED.
LG 65" 4k 3D
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 3:35:26 PM EDT
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Not really. One of the best options for taking out TV's
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Isn't Glaser a gimmick bullet?
Not really. One of the best options for taking out TV's
This one didn't fare well..
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Link Posted: 3/23/2017 3:40:14 PM EDT
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Thanks for the share OP...
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 3:43:13 PM EDT
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Glad you're alive OP

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I've been in a very similar situation, except I ended up with 4 holes in me.

The "4 rules" of firearms safety contribute to NDs I think.

NRA rules are much better, because they have you focus on what TO DO.

Always Keep a firearm pointed in a safe direction.

Always keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot.

Always keep a gun unloaded until ready to use.
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Can you expand on how the four rules contribute to NDs?
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 3:43:59 PM EDT
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Since you in the market, check this one out. We just got one after my kid killed our TV w/ a plastic toy. Pretty happy with it. Of course you could add another grand and get an OLED.
LG 65" 4k 3D
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Since you in the market, check this one out. We just got one after my kid killed our TV w/ a plastic toy. Pretty happy with it. Of course you could add another grand and get an OLED.
LG 65" 4k 3D
How are the blacks on that tv? Anything you don't like about it?
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Thanks for the share OP...
I was reluctant as I knew what was coming but glad I did. Thanks for the comment.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 3:45:01 PM EDT
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Seriously?  
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What the fuck does that have to do with anything?? This type of shit like criticizing my dog, my ammo etc. is exactly why I was so reluctant to share this lesson in the first place.
Seriously?  
I am curious as to why someone would bring up his dog's breed as well. Ammo is also pretty irrelevant to the story.

It can be frustrating when people chime in on everything except what you are looking for.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 3:45:52 PM EDT
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Glad you're alive OP

Can you expand on how the four rules contribute to NDs?
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Glad you're alive OP

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I've been in a very similar situation, except I ended up with 4 holes in me.

The "4 rules" of firearms safety contribute to NDs I think.

NRA rules are much better, because they have you focus on what TO DO.

Always Keep a firearm pointed in a safe direction.

Always keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot.

Always keep a gun unloaded until ready to use.
Can you expand on how the four rules contribute to NDs?
Whoa, just caught the "4 holes in me", mind telling us what happened? Damn...
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 3:48:10 PM EDT
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Yes sir, learned a lesson or two. Thank you.
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Thanks for sharing OP, that takes guts.

Here's to lessons learned.
Yes sir, learned a lesson or two. Thank you.
1. Don't post about fuck ups in GD.
2. Remove hand lotion and tissues before photographing TV and/or Computer.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 3:48:23 PM EDT
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I am curious as to why someone would bring up his dog's breed as well. Ammo is also pretty irrelevant to the story.

It can be frustrating when people chime in on everything except what you are looking for.
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What the fuck does that have to do with anything?? This type of shit like criticizing my dog, my ammo etc. is exactly why I was so reluctant to share this lesson in the first place.
Seriously?  
I am curious as to why someone would bring up his dog's breed as well. Ammo is also pretty irrelevant to the story.

It can be frustrating when people chime in on everything except what you are looking for.
Finally someone gets it, thank you sir.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 3:48:26 PM EDT
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The 1980's thread called to say, "Give me back my bullets!"
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 3:49:27 PM EDT
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Yeah, unholstered guns laying around is a shitty idea.

It's on my hip, in a safe or at an absolute minimum in a holster and in a drawer.


I get what you're saying about having a loaded firearm around, however if it's loaded and just sitting on the kitchen table and you're in the bathroom when some asshole breaks into the house,
who gets to the gun first?

At a minimum, holstered and out of sight.

I'm glad you're all OK and thank you for sharing the story.  It's important we all remember we're not infallible space shuttle door gunners and that an ounce of prevention goes a long way.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 3:50:16 PM EDT
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This place disappoints....three pages and not one fucking Hoot picture.  

Link Posted: 3/23/2017 3:51:48 PM EDT
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I bet he doesn't want a Glock now that he knows they go off by themselves!



Link Posted: 3/23/2017 3:52:16 PM EDT
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Frangible designed to reduce penetration.
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I'v seen where it's only frangible on hard surfaces but acts like FMJ through gel / people.   I guess it somewhat works since the TV stopped it.  JHP or FMJ would have gone though the TV.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 3:53:20 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/23/2017 3:54:34 PM EDT
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Thanks for sharing the lesson. I think the biggest point is don't fuck with guns needlessly. Even home alone laying a loaded glock on a table is stupid, shit happens, holsters prevent shit.

Next point a gun on a table is not in a safe direction! A loaded gun without anything preventing a trigger pull pointed at exterior walls is not safe. I point loaded guns goin in and out of holsters at the ground ONLY! Need to chamber a round? Point at ground, need to unload point at ground.

Let your friend be a man and pay of the tv. If that ends the friendship he is an idiot and an asshole.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 3:56:37 PM EDT
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Yeah, I'd never carry one. They have been totally dis proven.

I'm glad your OK OP. This is one that could have easily ended in tragedy. The only one I let around my guns is my son and he's an MP that I gun trained myself.

Your friend should maybe take an actual safety class to get this shit drilled into his head. Of all the sins "pointing at another person" is the worst. Even worse the pulling the trigger.

Another reason I avoid public ranges.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 3:58:24 PM EDT
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Glad you're alive OP

Can you expand on how the four rules contribute to NDs?
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Glad you're alive OP

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I've been in a very similar situation, except I ended up with 4 holes in me.

The "4 rules" of firearms safety contribute to NDs I think.

NRA rules are much better, because they have you focus on what TO DO.

Always Keep a firearm pointed in a safe direction.

Always keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot.

Always keep a gun unloaded until ready to use.
Can you expand on how the four rules contribute to NDs?
I did.  If you're attentional focus is on ensuring the firearm is unloaded first, what are you doing?

You are trying to figure out how to operate the action of the particular firearm if you are inexperienced, or experienced and with reduced mental function from being tired, old, etc.

Even if you think that ensuring it's unloaded first is the best step, there is no sound argument for neglecting to keep it pointed in a safe direction.

Safe direction needs to come first, foremost, and maintained always.

Focus on ensuring unloaded encourages several potentially fatal mindsets.

The first one is manipulating the action of the firearm as a priority, rather than muzzle awareness.

The second is the logical conclusion by many that once the weapon is determined to be unloaded, it might be ok to do things that aren't ok, like point them at someone carelessly.

ALWAYS keep a firearm pointed in a safe direction when handling them.

ALWAYS keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot.

In the OP's scenario, I would seriously consider ALWAYS keeping loaded firearms on your person and concealed in a setting with friends when eating, dining, or socializing.

You never know what some inexperienced or impaired judgment person will do when exposed to loaded firearms.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 4:03:46 PM EDT
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WHAT...WHAT
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 4:07:37 PM EDT
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Id say find a donor tv and see if can make one good one from both.   I would not try a screen swap, but I would find a broken one with a good screen and swap out all the electronics inside.  People sell or dump broken ones for CHEAP sometimes.
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Link Posted: 3/23/2017 4:32:57 PM EDT
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I had a guy I was hunting with one time pull the trigger on a shotgun to see if the safety was on instead of just looking down to see if it was on, we didn't hunt together after that.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 4:33:14 PM EDT
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I am curious as to why someone would bring up his dog's breed as well. Ammo is also pretty irrelevant to the story.

It can be frustrating when people chime in on everything except what you are looking for.
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Well i guess my attempt at making a joke failed since no one got it, or maybe they did but it just sucked....

He owns a pit bull.  Here on ARFCOM that breed is considered a deadly weapon.  He lets said deadly weapon roam free in his house daily so maybe that lead to his complacency for leaving loading guns lying about.

Get it now? HA, HA.......

Link Posted: 3/23/2017 4:36:34 PM EDT
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Not saying everyone should do this, but if my weapon is off my hip I clear it before putting it down. Even if its just a temporary. Why sre you unholstering to begin with?

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This. I have a policy designed to help prevent this very sort of situation.
Gun in holster or hand, meaning it is under my direct control, and its +1.
Gun on a nightstand or glovebox, or anywhere else not under my direct control, and the chamber is empty.

You only truly know who is going to be next to fingerfuck your gun when it is in your possession. Put it down for a second and all bets are off.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 4:41:03 PM EDT
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Ha ha, caught the lotion and tissues huh!?! It's my wifes stuff. I'm already shopping for a new tv and eyeballin the 4K's! Man you aren't kidding, the price has come way down on them!
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Thanks for answering. Dang. :(
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 4:42:42 PM EDT
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Didn't read any responses but i can assume I'm in the "never leave a loaded weapon sitting around" crowd.

Last AD i saw discussed on this site was the same situation. 
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 4:43:27 PM EDT
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This. I have a policy designed to help prevent this very sort of situation.
Gun in holster or hand, meaning it is under my direct control, and its +1.
Gun on a nightstand or glovebox, or anywhere else not under my direct control, and the chamber is empty.

You only truly know who is going to be next to fingerfuck your gun when it is in your possession. Put it down for a second and all bets are off.
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I've had a hard time retraining my dad with this behavior.  It seems like once you become an empty nester certain common sense gun rules just go out the window.  It's a real pain every time I take my kids, 1 and 5, to my dad's house because I have to make sure his guns aren't hot and are out of arms reach of the kids.

He's gotten better over the years, but damn.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 4:46:26 PM EDT
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Hey, there's this cool new show on Netflix, oh, wait, nevermind.
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I'd say it worked - as it stayed in that flat screen TV.  
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 4:52:49 PM EDT
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Nor do I.   I understand no one else is in the house but accidents can and do happen, you could slip and fall and grab it by accident.

I don't see the reason to have you both un holster and place your guns loaded on the table.

Kinda like a patrol officer getting in the car, pulling his weapon from his holster and putting it on his dash.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 4:54:53 PM EDT
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I posted a thread a long time ago about those rounds. On of those in .44 Magnum will go through several walls, a shower wall suround and a hair dryer.  Ask me how I know.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 4:58:10 PM EDT
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Damn lucky that day. I bet your friend will feel like a POS for awhile, but hope he doesn't lose interest in shooting altogether.

I remember when I first got started shooting seriously, I went out and when I was done with a particular firearm I would just set it down. I didn't think to unload it, and didn't know enough about them to even check the safety but was too embarrassed to admit that. I'm not sure if the people I was with ever noticed, but after I got comfortable and became a safety nazi I was always embarrassed by that. I wouldn't blame them if they never invited me again, but fortunately they did.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 4:59:05 PM EDT
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Video of OP and his friend...

Monkey With AK-47 Full video
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 4:59:07 PM EDT
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glad no one was hurt.  this accident was caused by a bad habit.
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Bastard.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 5:04:28 PM EDT
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How are your ears?


edit: Nevermind, already answered. Glad you werent shot.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 5:07:17 PM EDT
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glad no one was hurt.  this accident was caused by a bad habit.
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glad no one was hurt.  this accident was caused by a bad habit.
Thank you, that was exactly the point of what I was trying to convey but I failed. Wife and I have gotten into the habit of un-holstering, sometimes even removing gun from holster to use holster to practice with the SIRT(which is what happened here) and it was damn near a fatal mistake. I guess I could update to OP to try and clear that up.


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How are your ears?
Surprisingly they weren't even ringing, none of ours were.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 5:10:57 PM EDT
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OP, you are a safety violator, and your buddy is a safety violator.

The good news is you can fix it.

Would you like to know more?
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 5:13:17 PM EDT
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Man, you are lucky. That could have been much, much worse. At least your buddy learned a lesson and all for the low price of $4800.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 5:13:30 PM EDT
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It will go through a rib just fine. Can't find it at the moment but couple guys tested on a beef slab with ribs and the damage was devastating. Glaser's are just fine for self defense.
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I think this is the video you were talking about.  

Somebody will have to embed.
Link Posted: 3/23/2017 5:18:12 PM EDT
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Who owns a $4800 tv?

seriously though.  Glad everyone is ok.
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