Aftermarket glock safety (backplate)

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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:42:00 AM EDT

http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2017/3/19/nra-gun-gear-of-the-week-glock-striker-control-device-the-gadget/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=insider&utm_campaign=0317

I am curious.

Posted: 3/23/2017 8:43:31 AM EDT

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Posted: 3/23/2017 8:43:33 AM EDT

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why?

Posted: 3/23/2017 8:44:48 AM EDT

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http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gadget-a-striker-control-device#/

Demonstration: Gadget SCD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgzRXi_0Guw

http://youtu.be/dgzRXi_0Guw

Posted: 3/23/2017 8:45:13 AM EDT

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for the glock leg appendix carry guys....

Posted: 3/23/2017 8:46:45 AM EDT

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Fuck that

Posted: 3/23/2017 8:49:00 AM EDT

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A safety is a device that can fail.

Posted: 3/23/2017 8:49:32 AM EDT

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The op is literally a link explaining why.

Posted: 3/23/2017 8:49:40 AM EDT

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No thanks!

Posted: 3/23/2017 8:50:59 AM EDT

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Manual safeties are for women and nancies.

Posted: 3/23/2017 8:50:59 AM EDT

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I guess carrying a revolver AIWB is completely out then....

Posted: 3/23/2017 8:52:05 AM EDT

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Ooh! So us Glock converts can go back to carelessly jamming our Glocks back into our holsters? Sweet!

Posted: 3/23/2017 8:55:32 AM EDT

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Thumbs will be lost.

Posted: 3/23/2017 8:58:09 AM EDT

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no. that looks like a solution looking for a problem.

Posted: 3/23/2017 8:58:18 AM EDT

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Or just put your thumb on the hammer. Kinda what this thing is trying to replicate

Posted: 3/23/2017 9:02:34 AM EDT

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With that thing installed (and a suppressor) how could you hold the slide closed with your thumb for extra quiet shots?

Posted: 3/23/2017 9:04:33 AM EDT

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There is an instructor on here that uses it. I can understand that. He literally does 10K draws and reholsters with a loaded G19 AIWB per year.

I would never use one on a carry gun.

Posted: 3/23/2017 9:04:47 AM EDT

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That is not the backplate/selector I want.

Posted: 3/23/2017 9:05:29 AM EDT

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Maximum speed T-Rex snatches and blind reholstering hnnnngggg I can't wait.

Posted: 3/23/2017 9:08:47 AM EDT

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I still don't get it.

Posted: 3/23/2017 9:12:19 AM EDT

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That is not the backplate/selector I want.

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Posted: 3/23/2017 9:12:44 AM EDT

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Keep your fucking finger off the trigger. How hard is it?

Posted: 3/23/2017 9:26:36 AM EDT

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Just buy a hammer gun and be done with it.

Posted: 3/23/2017 9:30:10 AM EDT

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Takes all kinds of kinds.

I'm considering getting one for a dedicated practice/training pistol. My MTAC has a habit of deforming just enough that I have to cant the muzzle inward to holster. That's not a problem in everyday life, but it becomes one when you're constantly reholstering. Even though I know the trigger is clear, anytime I point a weapon at myself I get a little anxious. This just gives an additional level of safety like riding the hammer on a HK or SIG.

Posted: 3/23/2017 9:33:40 AM EDT

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Glock after market safety???

Posted: 3/23/2017 9:37:29 AM EDT

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Retarded and gay

Posted: 3/23/2017 9:37:40 AM EDT

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Unfortunately it's too hard for some. Except for being an extra layer of safety while instructing, as Sylvan mentioned, it's just another crutch to aid those that should not be handling firearms in the first place.

Posted: 3/23/2017 9:39:21 AM EDT

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There is an instructor on here that uses it. I can understand that. He literally does 10K draws and reholsters with a loaded G19 AIWB per year.

I would never use one on a carry gun.

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Why would you draw 10k and not fire the weapon with live ammo? Either snap caps or a dry fire magazine are a better solution.

Posted: 3/23/2017 9:39:51 AM EDT

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You can always tell who comments without reading the article or watching the video.

Posted: 3/23/2017 9:49:57 AM EDT

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Can you imagine a scenario where a trigger is pulled without a finger touching it?

Posted: 3/23/2017 9:51:39 AM EDT

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It seems unnecessary and I'm not a big fan of opening up the striker area to sand, lint, etc.

Posted: 3/23/2017 9:53:05 AM EDT

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Keep your fucking finger off the trigger. How hard is it?

Can you imagine a scenario where a trigger is pulled without a finger touching it?

Reholstering without looking and failing to clear an obstruction/garment, which is a the move-de joure with the T-Rex snatch look both ways before crossing street crowd today.

Posted: 3/23/2017 9:53:13 AM EDT

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Takes all kinds of kinds.

I'm considering getting one for a dedicated practice/training pistol. My MTAC has a habit of deforming just enough that I have to cant the muzzle inward to holster. That's not a problem in everyday life, but it becomes one when you're constantly reholstering. Even though I know the trigger is clear, anytime I point a weapon at myself I get a little anxious. This just gives an additional level of safety like riding the hammer on a HK or SIG.

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I think that I would get a new or better holster before I added a doohickey to the pistol.

Posted: 3/23/2017 9:53:14 AM EDT

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again, why?

Posted: 3/23/2017 9:54:05 AM EDT

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Because some people feel the need to invite Murphy into their lives.

Posted: 3/23/2017 9:57:15 AM EDT

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It to rain on y'alls parade, but it's the product @JohnWayne777 dreamed up

Posted: 3/23/2017 9:57:42 AM EDT

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Because some people feel the need to invite Murphy into their lives.

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If this safety fails, explain how it effects the function of the pistol.

Posted: 3/23/2017 9:57:44 AM EDT

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No thanks.

Posted: 3/23/2017 9:59:36 AM EDT

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Well, that changes my opinion completely.

Posted: 3/23/2017 10:00:23 AM EDT

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Agreed x87

Posted: 3/23/2017 10:01:05 AM EDT

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Why would you draw 10k and not fire the weapon with live ammo? Either snap caps or a dry fire magazine are a better solution.

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1. He is teaching.
2. He often shoots as well; that was implied. However the shooting portion is completely irrelevant to the purpose or use of the gadget so I left that explicitly out.

Posted: 3/23/2017 10:02:53 AM EDT

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Why would you draw 10k and not fire the weapon with live ammo? Either snap caps or a dry fire magazine are a better solution.

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He is drawing, presenting, firing and then reholster. Even the most diligent and disciplined will fail given enough instances, the key is to develop processes that mitigate the issue when a fuck up happens. Appendix carry has a high risk when things go wrong, so it is not unreasonable for some to want a safety, even if it is temporary.

Posted: 3/23/2017 10:02:54 AM EDT

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It flops around on the back of the slide. You don't see how crap can get inside to the striker area?

ETA: I can see very limited application for this doohickey. A training environment makes some sense. I don't think it's a great idea for general usage.

Posted: 3/23/2017 10:04:46 AM EDT

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So using the word "safety" I think is what is causing people to divide by zero about this. They think 'click on' then 'click off' and Glocks have historically not really had then in a general sense (Other than some specific foreign mil orgs). So adding one, especially one not made by Glock kirks them out (Rightfully so I suppose).

Reading through the article though this is just a temp striker disable device. Only disables while you push on it, it is out of the way otherwise. It looks like it "fails open" too meaning even if it broke the Glock would fire just fine. So it is not a safety in the sense on how safeties are defined for firearms or at least what I think of when someone says that.

Based on how it work it would appear no one would need to train on a new draw stroke at all. Just a minor change when re-holstering. So even a CCW/"carry gun" would be fine since it will fire when drawn WITHOUT needing to engage this.

Posted: 3/23/2017 10:05:05 AM EDT

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That's not really a safety. It's a tactile feel device. not a fan of the thumb on back of slide thingy to reholster.

Posted: 3/23/2017 10:05:20 AM EDT

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There is so much Dunning-Kruger in this thread. The Gadget is a great idea. It has been tested for a long time. There is no down side.

Posted: 3/23/2017 10:05:50 AM EDT

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Manual safeties are for women and nancies.

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it's not a safety

Posted: 3/23/2017 10:07:21 AM EDT

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Keep your fucking finger off the trigger. How hard is it?

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You didn't watch the video. Know how I can tell?

Posted: 3/23/2017 10:08:19 AM EDT

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yup

Posted: 3/23/2017 10:08:30 AM EDT

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Takes all kinds of kinds.

I'm considering getting one for a dedicated practice/training pistol. My MTAC has a habit of deforming just enough that I have to cant the muzzle inward to holster. That's not a problem in everyday life, but it becomes one when you're constantly reholstering. Even though I know the trigger is clear, anytime I point a weapon at myself I get a little anxious. This just gives an additional level of safety like riding the hammer on a HK or SIG.

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Dude, buy a better holster.