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Posted: 2/15/2017 10:07:31 PM EDT
Vodka martini shaken not stirred ?
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:09:13 PM EDT
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Vodka martini is wrong martini.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:10:06 PM EDT
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Nailed it.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:11:36 PM EDT
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There was a hotel out here that made a thing out of the martini Daniel Craig orders in 'Quantum of Solace' when the movie came out - three parts Gordon's gin, one part vodka, one part white wine vermouth. Was pretty awful in reality. I prefer vodka martinis.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:11:48 PM EDT
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Martinis suck no matter what they are made with. Whiskey/Bourbon neat or on the rocks.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:12:56 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:15:46 PM EDT
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Yes, and it tastes like very cold vodka.  A properly made martini with gin, stirred, is much better.  

If you shake it you lose the flavors in the gin.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:15:52 PM EDT
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Father in-law drank gin and extra dry tonic water. Nasty but two or three would set you right.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:16:00 PM EDT
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when i drank martini's  i drank vodka 1's

got sick as a dog when i was 15 at a sports event (drank gin and tonic all day)

cant stand the smell of gin yet. 50 or so yrs ago. wont even have it the house.  we throw 2-3 parties a year with over 100 guests'
invite says no gin will be served. my house my game. u need gin to party stay home

1texan
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:16:15 PM EDT
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Don't be that way, man.  Grey Goose martini, slightly dirty, with two blue cheese stuffed olives .
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:17:15 PM EDT
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No, because a proper Martini is made with Gin!!!
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:17:49 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:18:07 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:18:29 PM EDT
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The theory behind why J.B. would order his drink wrong on purpose is so that more ice would be melted into the drink thus diluting it so as to not get as drunk as one otherwise would.  Or, maybe he is just an unsophisticated Brit who doesn't like gin.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:19:23 PM EDT
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If it doesn't have gin, it isn't a martini.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:19:27 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:21:11 PM EDT
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Martinis are the nastiest cocktail I've ever had. I wouldn't mind trying James Bond's favorite cocktail though:

Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:22:03 PM EDT
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Martinis don't have vodka in them. Calling cold vodka in a cocktail glass a Martini is as bad as calling cold vodka in a margarita glass a margarita.  It's just not.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:22:38 PM EDT
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Interesting 
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:23:15 PM EDT
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And/or spent a lot of time undercover in the Soviet Union and got accustomed to it.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:24:24 PM EDT
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I've had two perfectly-made Vesper martinis in my life.  If done right, I can drink them all night...or until I pass out or throw up.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:26:13 PM EDT
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Always wanted to order one, but always felt like it'd come off as annoying.

"Shaken, not Shturred....shturred, is that how you say it? shturred...why are you shtill here"
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:29:46 PM EDT
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Martinis are the nastiest cocktail I've ever had. I wouldn't mind trying James Bond's favorite cocktail though:

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yes, I'll have a Vesper, slightly dirty.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:30:00 PM EDT
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"Tall Mount Gay and soda."  Is actually a good drink.

Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:32:47 PM EDT
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I do remember a Bond book mentioning that he liked straight vodka, ice cold, with a pinch of pepper in it.
the pepper wasn't for flavor, but to absorb impurities down to the bottom.
impurities implies bootleg, bathtub vodka, a Soviet staple.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:33:35 PM EDT
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There was a hotel out here that made a thing out of the martini Daniel Craig orders in 'Quantum of Solace' when the movie came out - three parts Gordon's gin, one part vodka, one part white wine vermouth. Was pretty awful in reality. I prefer vodka martinis.
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Doesn't it have Kina Lillet instead of vermouth? Some kind of Citrus based liquor?

Real vodka martinis are gross. Had a girl order me one as a joke once- bartender thought she was crazy. I couldn't finish it.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:33:57 PM EDT
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what about a cosmo?
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:34:58 PM EDT
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A dirty, gin martini with a citrus garnish is pretty good. 

Vodka ones are pretty bland in comparison. 
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:35:16 PM EDT
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when i drank martini's  i drank vodka 1's

got sick as a dog when i was 15 at a sports event (drank gin and tonic all day)

cant stand the smell of gin yet. 50 or so yrs ago. wont even have it the house.  we throw 2-3 parties a year with over 100 guests'
invite says no gin will be served. my house my game. u need gin to party stay home

1texan
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Amen.  I keep gin in the cabinet, but never any for me.   Awful stuff.  I'll sip on absinthe though...
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:35:52 PM EDT
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Yes and it was so delicious I had 4 more inside of an hour.
I was puking 15 minutes after the last one and never had one since.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:37:31 PM EDT
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While reading these replies, I'm wondering to myself who HASN'T had a bad gin experience?

January 1995.  Not a drop since.  
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:46:11 PM EDT
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I've ordered a couple FOR other people, but never drank them myself. Whiskey on the rocks or rum  and coke are the only things I drink.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:50:49 PM EDT
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January 1995.  Not a drop since.  
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I haven't. Gin and tonics are one of my go tos.

I OD'd on scotch a few years back and can't drink it anymore.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:53:21 PM EDT
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I haven't. Gin and tonics are one of my go tos.

I OD'd on scotch a few years back and can't drink it anymore.
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While reading these replies, I'm wondering to myself who HASN'T had a bad gin experience?

January 1995.  Not a drop since.  


I haven't. Gin and tonics are one of my go tos.

I OD'd on scotch a few years back and can't drink it anymore.


G&Ts are delicious. And chicks dig it because they think you're more sophisticated than you are.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:54:26 PM EDT
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January 1995.  Not a drop since.  
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I've actually never had gin. My mom used to drink Gin and Tonics when I was growing up and I couldn't stand the pine-sol smell, and that always stuck with me as adult. If I ever get off Warfarin and can drink again I'd like to try it now that my tastes in alcohol are more refined. 
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:55:33 PM EDT
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I've actually never had gin. My mom used to drink Gin and Tonics when I was growing up and I couldn't stand the pine-sol smell, and that always stuck with me as adult. If I ever get off Warfarin and can drink again I'd like to try it now that my tastes in alcohol are more refined. 
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While reading these replies, I'm wondering to myself who HASN'T had a bad gin experience?

January 1995.  Not a drop since.  
I've actually never had gin. My mom used to drink Gin and Tonics when I was growing up and I couldn't stand the pine-sol smell, and that always stuck with me as adult. If I ever get off Warfarin and can drink again I'd like to try it now that my tastes in alcohol are more refined. 


Pro tip: Tanqueray is the only gin you'll ever need.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 10:59:00 PM EDT
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Doesn't it have Kina Lillet instead of vermouth? Some kind of Citrus based liquor?

Real vodka martinis are gross. Had a girl order me one as a joke once- bartender thought she was crazy. I couldn't finish it.
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I have used Lillet Blanc before to make the Vesper martini:



I have no idea if that is supposed to be the proper replacement for Kina Lillet.

It really doesn't turn my crank as far as martinis go.

Eva Green, on the other hand, she could turn my crank any time:

Link Posted: 2/15/2017 11:02:02 PM EDT
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"Tall Mount Gay and soda."  Is actually a good drink.

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Aka rum and coke
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 11:03:11 PM EDT
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I have used Lillet Blanc before to make the Vesper martini:

http://www.spiritsoffrance.com.au/441-thickbox/lillet-blanc-white-french-aperitif-bordeaux-17-750ml.jpg

I have no idea if that is supposed to be the proper replacement for Kina Lillet.

It really doesn't turn my crank as far as martinis go.

Eva Green, on the other hand, she could turn my crank any time:

http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.bNh_0iihMUapTTn-ASNB6ADhEs&w=166&h=221&c=7&qlt=90&o=4&dpr=4&pid=1.7
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Doesn't it have Kina Lillet instead of vermouth? Some kind of Citrus based liquor?

Real vodka martinis are gross. Had a girl order me one as a joke once- bartender thought she was crazy. I couldn't finish it.


I have used Lillet Blanc before to make the Vesper martini:

http://www.spiritsoffrance.com.au/441-thickbox/lillet-blanc-white-french-aperitif-bordeaux-17-750ml.jpg

I have no idea if that is supposed to be the proper replacement for Kina Lillet.

It really doesn't turn my crank as far as martinis go.

Eva Green, on the other hand, she could turn my crank any time:

http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.bNh_0iihMUapTTn-ASNB6ADhEs&w=166&h=221&c=7&qlt=90&o=4&dpr=4&pid=1.7


Pls I want dat.

Eva, not the drink.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 11:04:17 PM EDT
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I have used Lillet Blanc before to make the Vesper martini:

http://www.spiritsoffrance.com.au/441-thickbox/lillet-blanc-white-french-aperitif-bordeaux-17-750ml.jpg

I have no idea if that is supposed to be the proper replacement for Kina Lillet.

It really doesn't turn my crank as far as martinis go.

Eva Green, on the other hand, she could turn my crank any time:

http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.bNh_0iihMUapTTn-ASNB6ADhEs&w=166&h=221&c=7&qlt=90&o=4&dpr=4&pid=1.7
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Doesn't it have Kina Lillet instead of vermouth? Some kind of Citrus based liquor?

Real vodka martinis are gross. Had a girl order me one as a joke once- bartender thought she was crazy. I couldn't finish it.


I have used Lillet Blanc before to make the Vesper martini:

http://www.spiritsoffrance.com.au/441-thickbox/lillet-blanc-white-french-aperitif-bordeaux-17-750ml.jpg

I have no idea if that is supposed to be the proper replacement for Kina Lillet.

It really doesn't turn my crank as far as martinis go.

Eva Green, on the other hand, she could turn my crank any time:

http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.bNh_0iihMUapTTn-ASNB6ADhEs&w=166&h=221&c=7&qlt=90&o=4&dpr=4&pid=1.7


I love her. Would marry.

She has a good nude scene in 300 rise of a nation.

Edit: whoops,thought the first post didn't post.
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There was a hotel out here that made a thing out of the martini Daniel Craig orders in 'Quantum of Solace' when the movie came out - three parts Gordon's gin, one part vodka, one part white wine vermouth. Was pretty awful in reality. I prefer vodka martinis.
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20% vermouth?  I just threw-up.  The correct amount is stick your finger in the vermouth bottle, turn it upside-down, turn it back up, pull out your finger and swirl it around in the gin.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 11:06:47 PM EDT
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The theory behind why J.B. would order his drink wrong on purpose is so that more ice would be melted into the drink thus diluting it so as to not get as drunk as one otherwise would.  Or, maybe he is just an unsophisticated Brit who doesn't like gin.
Interesting 

In one of the older (Sean Connery or Roger Moore) movies, he shows up to a resort with briefcase filled with all the fixin's, including vodka. He is drinking them recreationally.

I have had vodka martinis before and they are good if you use vermouth. A lot of people order them "dry" so that you only get a tiny hint of vermouth. This is why people think they taste like crap. The right amount of vermouth makes them taste pretty good.

ETA: Lol, see above.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 11:07:33 PM EDT
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Dirty Grey Goose Martini on the rocks... yum.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 11:08:47 PM EDT
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Gin martini, shaken; yup.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 11:10:17 PM EDT
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IIRC it was three parts Gorden's gin, one part vodka, 1/2 part Kina Lillet slice of lemon peel.
In the movie he said he had 6 one night.
I matched that one night, just because.
Not bad.
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That's NOT a Vesper.

A Vesper calls for 3 oz Gordon's Gin, 1 oz vodka, 1/2 oz Kina Lillet, lemon zest, well chilled and served in a champaign flute.

Yes, I've made MANY of them.

Yes, they will seriously fuck up your shit.

IIRC, the "shaken not stirred" thing was a Hollywood contrivance, not what Fleming wrote in Casino Royale.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 11:12:23 PM EDT
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This man gets it. 
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 11:13:10 PM EDT
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I prefer a Gibson.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 11:14:01 PM EDT
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Does not matter what they are made with,  Martinis are just delivery systems for delicious olives.
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 11:14:46 PM EDT
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Martinis suck no matter what they are made with. Whiskey/Bourbon neat or on the rocks.
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This guy. Not the other guy. 
Link Posted: 2/15/2017 11:15:53 PM EDT
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20% vermouth?  I just threw-up.  The correct amount is stick your finger in the vermouth bottle, turn it upside-down, turn it back up, pull out your finger and swirl it around in the gin.
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There was a hotel out here that made a thing out of the martini Daniel Craig orders in 'Quantum of Solace' when the movie came out - three parts Gordon's gin, one part vodka, one part white wine vermouth. Was pretty awful in reality. I prefer vodka martinis.


20% vermouth?  I just threw-up.  The correct amount is stick your finger in the vermouth bottle, turn it upside-down, turn it back up, pull out your finger and swirl it around in the gin.

That's actually not correct at all. That only came about the past couple decades. The original Martini was 30-50% vermouth, and a modern proper Gin Martini should be no less than 20%. 
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