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Posted: 1/31/2017 2:34:10 PM EDT
End it. NOW.

Why Trump must end DACA

The rule of law is all about deterrence. So when we fail to follow it, we squander its deterring effects. With President Obama’s DACA program apparently still up and running (handing out amnesty, work permits, etc.), it’s sincerely hoped this most basic of principles hasn’t fallen victim to the left’s emotional blackmail campaign.

Ending DACA and turning off the amnesty-magnet is now more important than ever.

Obama created DACA in reaction to Congress’s “gridlock” over the DREAM Act, an amnesty bill for illegal aliens under 30 rejected no less than 24 times since 2001.

DACA replicated the main elements and criteria of the insipidly titled act, from its sentimental focus on “children” to the requirement that applicants have a GED...
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Link Posted: 1/31/2017 2:39:35 PM EDT
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You know what would have been great in that article?  Saying what DACA stands for.
Link Posted: 1/31/2017 2:41:58 PM EDT
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DACA..... going through the possibilities in my head...
Googled it: Dumaguete Academy for Culinary Arts
Link Posted: 1/31/2017 2:44:25 PM EDT
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Libs are already going insane, I say do it now so, like ripping off a band-aid.
Link Posted: 1/31/2017 2:44:27 PM EDT
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Hopefully Trump does end DACA, but I think it's more than he wants to take on this early. Maybe in a few months when his appointees are all in place.
Link Posted: 1/31/2017 2:46:27 PM EDT
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Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals

Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) is an American immigration policy started by the Obama administration in June 2012 that allows certain undocumented immigrants to the United States who entered the country as minors to receive a renewable two-year period of deferred action from deportation and eligibility for a work permit.

To be eligible, immigrants must have entered the United States before their 16th birthday and before June 2007, be currently in school, a high school graduate or be honorably discharged from the military, be under age 31 as of June 15, 2012, and not have been convicted of a felony, significant misdemeanor or three other misdemeanors, or otherwise pose a threat to national security. The program does not provide lawful status or a path to citizenship.[1]

The policy was created after acknowledgment that these immigrants had been largely raised in the United States, and was seen as a way to remove immigration enforcement attention from "low priority" individuals who act as good citizens.[2] The undocumented student population was rapidly increasing; approximately 65,000 undocumented students graduate from U.S. high schools on a yearly basis.[3] This executive order now faces threats by President Donald Trump.[4]
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DACA is unlawful, immigration policy based on a MEMO sent by Obama.

DACA was formally initiated by a policy memorandum sent from Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano to the heads of U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). The memo formally directed them to exercise their enforcement discretion on behalf of individuals who met the requirements
Link Posted: 1/31/2017 2:55:49 PM EDT
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ICE spends $100 million ferrying illegal immigrant children around U.S.

He blamed President Obama’s 2012 deportation amnesty for young adult illegal immigrants, the so-called Dreamers, for the surge, saying it enticed tens of thousands of new migrants, particularly juveniles, to take a risk on making the trip.

Instead of being sent back, they are shuttled among various federal agencies until they are eventually delivered to their parents, other relatives or sponsor families — where they often disappear into the shadows.
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Link Posted: 2/9/2017 9:44:16 PM EDT
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In light of the decision by the 9th Circus, it is time for this "program" to be ended.
Link Posted: 2/9/2017 9:48:30 PM EDT
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Die republicans die? Not enough word's but I bet that's it.
Link Posted: 2/16/2017 3:14:43 PM EDT
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Trump mentioned DACA today, so now maybe you cretins can look up what it stands for.
Link Posted: 2/17/2017 2:15:55 PM EDT
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The White House has found ways to end protection for 'Dreamers' while shielding Trump from blowback

While President Trump wavered Thursday on whether he will stop shielding from deportation people who were brought to the U.S. illegally as children, his aides have identified at least two ways to quietly end their protections without his fingerprints.

An executive order has already been drafted to end the program, Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, that allows hundreds of thousands of the immigrants to live and work openly in the U.S. Trump used that legal mechanism to great fanfare to expand deportation authority and restrict entry to the U.S.

But with the president showing less willingness to sign such an order, advisors have begun to explore alternatives. Their hunt suggests that the White House is hesitant to publicly target a well-organized group of immigrants who have prominent public backing, including from President Obama, and to whom Trump has shown sympathy...



...Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly could simply instruct U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services to stop issuing work permits, much as Obama’s first secretary of Homeland Security, Janet Napolitano, created DACA with a memo in 2012.


DACADACADACA DUCK
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Link Posted: 2/17/2017 2:35:54 PM EDT
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My guess is that he will grandfather in some period of time. He will say it will be fair to those who are already under the impression they are safe
Link Posted: 3/3/2017 1:05:28 PM EDT
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GOV. MCAULIFFE TELLS REPORTERS THAT DACA IS HERE TO STAY

The Washington Examiner is reporting that after meeting with the Trump administration Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D-Va.) told reporters that Pres. Trump would “absolutely not” end Pres. Obama’s DACA amnesty. Ending the program was a campaign promise of Pres. Trump's, and his campaign website pledged to end the executive amnesty "immediately".

Trump broken campaign pledge. First step to a general amnesty.
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Link Posted: 3/3/2017 1:20:04 PM EDT
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No more DACA and no more anchor babies.
Link Posted: 3/3/2017 1:20:42 PM EDT
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coming here in your teens (up to 16) is not being primarily raised in the US.
Program is total BS! Deport them all. You do not get to benefit from the crimes your parents committed.
Link Posted: 3/3/2017 1:22:58 PM EDT
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Deport the criminals first. Get bunch of rest to register through this. When you run out of the test deport this bunch
Link Posted: 3/24/2017 2:02:04 PM EDT
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Repeal and replace?


During the campaign, Donald Trump promised to cancel the Obama administration’s Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) policy “on day one.” The president did not get around to DACA on his first day in office, and it’s now looking like President Trump may not get around to DACA at all. Recent reports suggest that the White House has no imminent plans to touch the executive action granting temporary protection from deportation to more than 2 million illegal aliens.

President Obama’s DACA, issued in 2012 via memorandum, was a patently lawless use of executive power. After Congress (again) decided not to pass the DREAM Act, granting legal status to illegal immigrants who came here as children, the president abused his “pen and phone” to impose the law’s provisions unilaterally. The administration risibly claimed that this was an exercise of “prosecutorial discretion,” implying that the government would be evaluating applications for deferred status on a case-by-case basis. Unsurprisingly, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services officials have reported otherwise; in fact, anyone who appears to be under the maximum deferral age — that is, any illegal immigrant who appears younger than 35 years old — is simply presumed to be eligible for DACA. Under the policy, about 750,000 illegal aliens have been granted not only renewable, two-year deportation stays, but also work permits, Social Security numbers, access to the EITC welfare program, and driver’s licenses. Functionally, more than 2 million have been shielded from deportation for nearly five years.
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Link Posted: 3/30/2017 2:02:35 PM EDT
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Trump is a liar.

Trump should fulfill his commitment to end Obama's DACA amnesty

President Trump vowed during his campaign to end Deferred Action Childhood Arrivals (DACA), a program granting amnesty to nearly 800,000 undocumented immigrants. He needs to stand by that promise if he wants to avoid serious backlash from his base.

DACA is a two-year renewable program that allows illegal immigrants who are willing to claim they are under 35 and that they came to the U.S. illegally, as children, to avoid deportation, and to receive work permits in the United States. The program today is rife with illegal immigrants who used forged documents and deception to misrepresent their age and arrival dates.

Trump promised to repeal DACA on his first day in office, but he has yet to do so. The reason is not for lack of public support.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 12:32:51 PM EDT
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Trump OKs DACA Amnesty: ‘This Is a Case of Heart’

Illegal aliens who crossed the border as children don’t have to worry about being sent home, President Donald Trump told the Associated Press in a Friday interview.

Illegals enrolled in the President Barack Obama’s “Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals” DACA program can “rest easy,” Trump said, because “this is a case of heart.”

Federal enforcement agencies are “not [going] after the ‘dreamers,’ we are after the criminals,” he said, using the Democrats’ ‘dreamer’ euphemism for young illegal immigrants. “That is our policy,” he added.

Since his inauguration, Trump’s deputies at the Department of Homeland Security have awarded new work permits to illegals who claim they arrived before age 16, despite Trump’s “Buy American, Hire American” slogan.

Trump’s support for the DACA program is one of his biggest “flip-flops,” said Mark Krikorian, director of the Center for Immigration Studies. “During the campaign, now-President Trump had said he was going to end that on day one because it’s an unconstitutional action by the president,” Krikorian told Breitbart News Daily SiriusXM host Alex Marlow on Friday. Krikorian continued:

And of course he’s right, it’s illegal. And they’ve done nothing to it. They’ve done absolutely nothing.”
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 1:27:29 PM EDT
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A bunch of criminal DACA people have already been deported. Give it time.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 1:39:22 PM EDT
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Trump said he would repeal DACA on day one. Not "criminals" who were utilizing DACA protections, but to repeal Obama's unlawful memo itself.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 1:50:48 PM EDT
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A bunch of criminal DACA people have already been deported. Give it time.
Trump said he would repeal DACA on day one. Not "criminals" who were utilizing DACA protections, but to repeal Obama's unlawful memo itself.
Link to video of Trump saying he would end DACA on day one?

The only people making that claim is the fake media, but no actual video of him making that statement.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 1:52:09 PM EDT
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He could end the policy with a stroke of a pen from the back nine at Mar-a-lago.  He simply chooses not to...
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 1:53:43 PM EDT
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Eight years from now, after Trump has built a wall, deported millions of illegal aliens, and reduced illegal border crossings to negligible amounts, sovereign will still be posting threads with titles like "TRUMP NEVER KEPT HIS DACA PROMISE!!1!!1!" 
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A bunch of criminal DACA people have already been deported. Give it time.
Trump said he would repeal DACA on day one. Not "criminals" who were utilizing DACA protections, but to repeal Obama's unlawful memo itself.
Link to video of Trump saying he would end DACA on day one?

The only people making that claim is the fake media, but no actual video of him making that statement.  
Trump's campaign website was "fake news"?  He didn't state "Day one" but he did say "immediately".  He's since nuked his immigration page but a savvy Arfcommer can find a cached version...

5. Immediately terminate President Obama’s two illegal executive amnesties. All immigration laws will be enforced - we will triple the number of ICE agents. Anyone who enters the U.S. illegally is subject to deportation. That is what it means to have laws and to have a country.
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You think he is going to any of that?
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You think he is going to any of that?
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He has already started on it:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/18/politics/trump-border-wall-specifications/index.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/03/08/homeland-security-boss-illegal-border-crossings-down-40/98935926/

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/jeff-sessions-immigration-crackdown-237109

But yeah, Trump's not going to do anything about illegal immigration because DACA!!!1!! 
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A bunch of criminal DACA people have already been deported. Give it time.
Trump said he would repeal DACA on day one. Not "criminals" who were utilizing DACA protections, but to repeal Obama's unlawful memo itself.
Link to video of Trump saying he would end DACA on day one?

The only people making that claim is the fake media, but no actual video of him making that statement.  
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Fox fake news.

He repeatedly promised to “eliminate every unconstitutional executive order” -- referring specifically to Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) and Deferred Action for Parents of Americans (DAPA), which granted legal status to illegal immigrants brought to the U.S. as children, or who have children who are citizens or legal residents.
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A bunch of criminal DACA people have already been deported. Give it time.
Trump said he would repeal DACA on day one. Not "criminals" who were utilizing DACA protections, but to repeal Obama's unlawful memo itself.
Link to video of Trump saying he would end DACA on day one?

The only people making that claim is the fake media, but no actual video of him making that statement.  
Trump's campaign website was "fake news"?  He didn't state "Day one" but he did say "immediately".  He's since nuked his immigration page but a savvy Arfcommer can find a cached version...

5. Immediately terminate President Obama’s two illegal executive amnesties. All immigration laws will be enforced - we will triple the number of ICE agents. Anyone who enters the U.S. illegally is subject to deportation. That is what it means to have laws and to have a country.
Immigration laws are being enforced, illegal crossings are down over 60% in 90 days, and there would be more happening if it weren't for a federal judge in HI.

He never said he would end DACA on day 1.  Show me the video.  I watched 322 rallies over 19 months, and I don't recall him ever stating that.  

Getting rid of rapists, drug dealers and murderers was mentioned repeatedly however.
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A bunch of criminal DACA people have already been deported. Give it time.
Trump said he would repeal DACA on day one. Not "criminals" who were utilizing DACA protections, but to repeal Obama's unlawful memo itself.
Link to video of Trump saying he would end DACA on day one?

The only people making that claim is the fake media, but no actual video of him making that statement.  
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Fox fake news.

He repeatedly promised to “eliminate every unconstitutional executive order” -- referring specifically to Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) and Deferred Action for Parents of Americans (DAPA), which granted legal status to illegal immigrants brought to the U.S. as children, or who have children who are citizens or legal residents.
The second video is not Trump talking, just fake media...The first one is the Greenville rally, and I watched from 6:00 to 10:00.  No mention of DACA whatsoever.
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The second video is not Trump talking, just fake media...The first one is the Greenville rally, and I watched from 6:00 to 10:00.  No mention of DACA whatsoever.
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The second video is not Trump talking, just fake media...The first one is the Greenville rally, and I watched from 6:00 to 10:00.  No mention of DACA whatsoever.
"The change will begin my first day in office. #1. We are going to eliminate every unconstitutional executive order and restore the rule of law to our land".-6:35 Donald Trump.
You are correct, he didn't say DACA. I suppose you believe DACA is constitutional?
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 2:41:59 PM EDT
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There are bigger fish to fry. You have to appreciate governments uncanny ability to make an enemy out of everyone else while they are balls deep in your throat. "This isn't even my cock.."
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 2:46:17 PM EDT
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Remove all illegals...
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 2:48:01 PM EDT
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The second video is not Trump talking, just fake media...The first one is the Greenville rally, and I watched from 6:00 to 10:00.  No mention of DACA whatsoever.
"The change will begin my first day in office. #1. We are going to eliminate every unconstitutional executive order and restore the rule of law to our land".-6:35 Donald Trump.
You are correct, he didn't say DACA. I suppose you believe DACA is constitutional?
It was just a policy memo to 3 agencies.  Whether it is constitutional or not is up to the court system.  

The point is, "Trump promised to repeal DACA on day one" is still bullshit.  Immigration laws are being enforced, and DACA is not a law.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 3:29:37 PM EDT
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It was just a policy memo to 3 agencies.  Whether it is constitutional or not is up to the court system.  

The point is, "Trump promised to repeal DACA on day one" is still bullshit.  Immigration laws are being enforced, and DACA is not a law.
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The second video is not Trump talking, just fake media...The first one is the Greenville rally, and I watched from 6:00 to 10:00.  No mention of DACA whatsoever.
"The change will begin my first day in office. #1. We are going to eliminate every unconstitutional executive order and restore the rule of law to our land".-6:35 Donald Trump.
You are correct, he didn't say DACA. I suppose you believe DACA is constitutional?
It was just a policy memo to 3 agencies.  Whether it is constitutional or not is up to the court system.  

The point is, "Trump promised to repeal DACA on day one" is still bullshit.  Immigration laws are being enforced, and DACA is not a law.
just words...
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It was just a policy memo to 3 agencies.  Whether it is constitutional or not is up to the court system.  

The point is, "Trump promised to repeal DACA on day one" is still bullshit.  Immigration laws are being enforced, and DACA is not a law.
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DACA is keeping illegals here currently.
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It was just a policy memo to 3 agencies.  Whether it is constitutional or not is up to the court system.  

The point is, "Trump promised to repeal DACA on day one" is still bullshit.  Immigration laws are being enforced, and DACA is not a law.
DACA is keeping illegals here currently.
And if they rape, rob, murder, and rape, they are gone just like any non-dreamers.  If they want to raise families and immigrate legally, I don't see the outrage.

Under age sixteen, and here prior to 2007 is a pretty small sample size of the overall illegal population.
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knowing that any executive order by Trump to end daca, would result in lawsuits that some obama judge will uphold, it's a fight that would take too much energy and focus away from bigger priorities.

get the wall funded, tax reform passed, and get obamacare eliminated.

then, when Trump gets another supreme court pick, and gets a court that will follow the constitution, instead of being judicial activist, he can go through and start repealing daca, along with all sorts of other obama executive orders that will be known to be held up by lawsuits.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 4:10:45 PM EDT
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I don't know but I am still waiting.
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 4:11:59 PM EDT
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Trump I guess has lurched left.
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The man makes deals. He stakes out an extreme position, and tries to get the final deal down to something in his favor. We've know that about him since 25-30 years ago...
Link Posted: 4/23/2017 4:17:57 PM EDT
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I'm anxiously awaiting the end of DACA. Every article I see about a DREAMER getting arrested/deported makes me smile.
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Trump is a liar.

Trump should fulfill his commitment to end Obama's DACA amnesty

President Trump vowed during his campaign to end Deferred Action Childhood Arrivals (DACA), a program granting amnesty to nearly 800,000 undocumented immigrants. He needs to stand by that promise if he wants to avoid serious backlash from his base.

DACA is a two-year renewable program that allows illegal immigrants who are willing to claim they are under 35 and that they came to the U.S. illegally, as children, to avoid deportation, and to receive work permits in the United States. The program today is rife with illegal immigrants who used forged documents and deception to misrepresent their age and arrival dates.

Trump promised to repeal DACA on his first day in office, but he has yet to do so. The reason is not for lack of public support.
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Well, he does need people to work in construction on his properties so he can not pay them.
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If Trump wins or loses he will be a big let down for Americans. I guarantee it. He has read the constitution about as many times as he has read the Bible.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1860970_Trump_will_be_the_big_let_down_.html&page=1
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This is the likely scenario. Some will be permitted to stay.
Link Posted: 5/7/2017 1:29:02 PM EDT
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TRUMP LOSES ANTI-ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION GROUP ENDORSEMENT

"“It’s clear that we’ve been betrayed on the issues that gave him his greatest power to defeat his primary opponents and Hillary Clinton, which are the promises to end DACA amnesty and dangerous refugee resettlement programs,” Gheen tells Newsweek, referring to the Deferred Action Childhood Arrivals program. Gheen dismissed claims by Trump supporters that the president’s attempts to do just that have been stymied by Democrats or the courts.

“DACA amnesty and the refugee resettlement programs could be ended by Donald Trump with a swipe of his pen,” he says.

In a letter Tuesday to ALIPAC members—Gheen says the group has 50,000 email subscribers—he blasted Trump for joining the ranks of “amnesty backers” like former presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush.

Two other anti-illegal immigration groups told HuffPost they are also disappointed with Trump’s decision to continue the DACA program.

“It’s something that he did promise.... We still think the president should act on his campaign pledge,” Ira Mehlman, spokesman for the organization Federation for American Immigration Reform, told HuffPost.

“What you’ve got now is, ‘The wall is dead and DACA is alive,’” Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, told the website."
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Trump is getting no support from the GOP, so he isn't able to fight all the battles. This is mostly the fault of the GOPe.
Link Posted: 5/7/2017 2:08:14 PM EDT
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nevermind
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He doesn't need the support from anything else other than his hand. All he needs is a pen.
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Looking forward to Trump rescinding Obama's illegal immigration policy and ending the precedent that a President can unilaterally loosen the immigration quotas set by congress.
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