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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:11:15 PM EDT
[#1]
IBP?
ETA: beat by seconds I prefer decockers myself |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:19:16 PM EDT
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For DA/SA anything I prefer a de-cocker, but I'll freely admit that my range toy SP01 will probably get sent on a trip to Cajun Gun works one of these days and comeback single action only.
I just got an HK LEM pistol, I'm not sure what I could really call it other than maybe a long light SA pull, with a SA trigger reset. I replaced the trigger return spring and locking block spring with the "light" LEM parts, and its a lot better than I expected. 
"Cocked and Locked" is a SA only thing, imho. Having a cocked and locked safety on a DA/SA pistol mostly defeats the purpose of having a DA/SA pistol, imho. 
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:20:43 PM EDT
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I dont have any use for a pistol safety.
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:23:30 PM EDT
[#4]
GD says get both. Omega Convertible FTW.
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:23:49 PM EDT
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For DA/SA anything I prefer a de-cocker, but I'll freely admit that my range toy SP01 will probably get sent on a trip to Cajun Gun works one of these days and comeback single action only.
I just got an HK LEM pistol, I'm not sure what I could really call it other than maybe a long light SA pull, with a SA trigger reset. I replaced the trigger return spring and locking block spring with the "light" LEM parts, and its a lot better than I expected.
"Cocked and Locked" is a SA only thing, imho. Having a cocked and locked safety on a DA/SA pistol mostly defeats the purpose of having a DA/SA pistol, imho. I like SA guns so that's what I would go with for the CZ, but have been carrying a HK with the LEM trigger for about a year now. It's awesome. |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:24:57 PM EDT
[#6]
Safety
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:26:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:28:35 PM EDT
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Like the PCR so my only option is decocker.
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:30:00 PM EDT
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I have quite a few CZs, they're all decocker. I prefer them that way.
To each his own though. CZ makes good stuff no matter which way you go. |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:33:27 PM EDT
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Evan at 50/50 poll fail. No get both.
I have a CZ 75 SA and a p09 with decocker. |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:33:56 PM EDT
[#11]
Safety on my P07, but I wish CGW or someone would make a stronger, more positive version. The safety can easily be deactivated when holstering, at least in my holster.
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:35:24 PM EDT
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I dont own one yet, but when I do finally buy the SP-01 on my want list it will have a safety.
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:38:53 PM EDT
[#13]
you have the option of having a safety or a decocker?
not both? |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:39:16 PM EDT
[#14]
My PCR has a decocker. Love it!
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:40:22 PM EDT
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CCW is a p229, so i went decocker on my SP-01 for commonality.
have to admit that i don't care for the position of the CZ decocker though. not a deal-breaker, but if i had it to do over again, i might go with the safety. |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:42:14 PM EDT
[#16]
I left mine as a decocker. It doesn't bother me. I might change it to safety later on if I get a wild hair, but we'll see.
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:44:09 PM EDT
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Like the PCR so my only option is decocker. P-O1 or P-O1 Omega? |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:44:56 PM EDT
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i'd go decocker, just me though. if you have to pull it you wouldn't have to worry about taking the pistol off safety. just MHO
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:45:32 PM EDT
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cocked&Locked CCW'ing my P-07 right now https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/2275/IMG-1806-127279.JPG gonna be hard to fight with no mag... 
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:45:38 PM EDT
[#20]
I love the [de]cock[er].
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:45:41 PM EDT
[#21]
Safety. Always a safety.
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:47:01 PM EDT
[#22]
lol @ the poll results. pretty even, which would explain why CZ came out with the Omega trigger.
I carry a decocker but have examples of both. |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:47:09 PM EDT
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I wish my safety'd 75 compact had a decocker
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:47:20 PM EDT
[#24]
Which grip insert are you using? I was using small and just switched to medium, curious what others are using.
My favorite CZ is my 75 SA so I prefer safety and SAO, but I'll probably keep my P-09 decocker equipped and shoot production with it. |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:48:59 PM EDT
[#25]
..and 55% of arfcommers who voted are stupid.
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:51:06 PM EDT
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I don't like thumbing off safeties when I draw my gun.
Just me though, I voted decocker. |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:51:46 PM EDT
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..and 55% of arfcommers who voted are stupid. 
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Posted: 1/16/2017 7:56:13 PM EDT
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..and 55% of arfcommers who voted are stupid. Cocked and locked safeties on a DA/SA pistol are redundant and stupid. 
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:02:22 PM EDT
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That's why you manually decock them. Not all CZs can be swapped between safety and decocker. A safety give you options for both, the decocker has no option.
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:03:33 PM EDT
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Which grip insert are you using? I was using small and just switched to medium, curious what others are using. My favorite CZ is my 75 SA so I prefer safety and SAO, but I'll probably keep my P-09 decocker equipped and shoot production with it. First time I shot it the day I bought it I kept the small. Switched to the medium a few days ago and shot 100 rounds with it and I think I like it better. |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:08:32 PM EDT
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That's why you manually decock them. Not all CZs can be swapped between safety and decocker. A safety give you options for both, the decocker has no option. Manually lower a hammer on a live round? That's dumb as shit. 
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:08:55 PM EDT
[#32]
I dislike on\off safety.
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:10:20 PM EDT
[#33]
I wouldn't have a gun with a decocker.
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:12:17 PM EDT
[#34]
Safety.
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:16:01 PM EDT
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Manually lower a hammer on a live round? That's dumb as shit. I've done it hundreds of times for IDPA and USPSA with zero issues. |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:17:49 PM EDT
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I've done it hundreds of times for IDPA and USPSA with zero issues. jesus.. that's a ND just waiting to happen |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:19:27 PM EDT
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I wouldn't have a gun with a decocker. Do you need a manual safety to make you feel "safe"? |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:20:34 PM EDT
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Why? Do you need a manual safety to make you feel "safe"? Do you need an extra heavy first trigger pull for the same reason? |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:22:21 PM EDT
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jesus.. that's a ND just waiting to happen How the hell do you think all the people shooting CZs compete with them? First shot has to be DA if you're shooting USPSA Production or SSP IDPA. You have to be a dumb ass to get one to light off while decocking it. |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:23:52 PM EDT
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Manually lower a hammer on a live round? That's dumb as shit. You drop it on your thumb then let it drop to half cock. It's simple, I learned it as a kid. https://youtu.be/EC6fydtKwRc |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:24:06 PM EDT
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Do you need an extra heavy first trigger pull for the same reason? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why? Do you need a manual safety to make you feel "safe"? Do you need an extra heavy first trigger pull for the same reason? And if I wanted to eventually carry a DA/SA gun I would learn to shoot it properly and not have some mechanism on the side that I would have to fumble off in the event I wanted to use it. |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:26:31 PM EDT
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..and 55% of arfcommers who voted are stupid. /DK Prof LOL! |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:26:34 PM EDT
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I bought my CZ SP-01 with a safety, because I have no use for a long DA trigger.
That said, the correct answer is still Glock 19. 
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:26:58 PM EDT
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I've done it hundreds of times for IDPA and USPSA with zero issues. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Manually lower a hammer on a live round? That's dumb as shit. I've done it hundreds of times for IDPA and USPSA with zero issues. Yes, because what people do during gun games is what you should advise as a "safe" practice. Congrats on your dumb as shit learned behaviour from your game. 
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:27:25 PM EDT
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I bought my CZ SP-01 with a safety, because I have no use for a long DA trigger. That said, the correct answer is still Glock 19. |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:28:53 PM EDT
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you have the option of having a safety or a decocker? not both? Not at the same time. The Omega guns are swappable but it's either one or the other. |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:29:32 PM EDT
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Decocker for me. I can't reach the safety without using both hands and twisting the firearm, so it's a no go for me.
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:30:29 PM EDT
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You drop it on your thumb then let it drop to half cock. It's simple, I learned it as a kid. https://youtu.be/EC6fydtKwRc "Let's rely on a mechanical notch which may fail, on a gun which probably does not have a proper firing pin safety." You can continue your unsafe practices, and you can be called out for such when you recommend that others do the same. Doing a stupid unsafe thing years successfully does not make it safe, nor a smart thing to advise others to do themselves. |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:31:08 PM EDT
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I bet I could get the DA pull on my SP01 down to 6lbs if I wanted to. The SA pull on mine is already less than that and with half the trigger travel. |
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Posted: 1/16/2017 8:32:27 PM EDT
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The SA pull on mine is already less than that and with half the trigger travel. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I bet I could get the DA pull on my SP01 down to 6lbs if I wanted to. The SA pull on mine is already less than that and with half the trigger travel. My SA pull is the cats ass, CGW is the shit. |
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