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Posted: 12/4/2016 3:44:48 AM EDT
H.R.6393, Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2017, passed in the House of Representatives on November 30.The legislation deals with a number of intelligence related issues, including Russian propaganda, or what the government calls propaganda.

Section 501 calls for the government to counter “measures by Russia to exert covert influence… carried out in coordination with, or at the behest of, political leaders or the security services of the Russian Federation and the role of the Russian Federation has been hidden or not acknowledged publicly."

Definitions include media manipulation, covert broadcasting, disinformation and forgeries, and “funding agents of influence."

It’s easy to see how this law, if passed by the Senate and signed by the president, could be used against “fake news” websites.

On November 24, The Washington Post published an article citing “experts” who claim Russian propaganda helped Donald Trump get elected.

“Two teams of independent researchers found that the Russians exploited American-made technology platforms to attack U.S. democracy at a particularly vulnerable moment, as an insurgent candidate harnessed a wide range of grievances to claim the White House. The sophistication of the Russian tactics may complicate efforts by Facebook and Google to crack down on “fake news,” as they have vowed to do after widespread complaints about the problem,” the Post reported.

The newspaper cited PropOrNot, an anonymous website that posted a hit list of alternative media websites, including Drudge Report, Zero Hedge, Activist Post, Blacklisted News, and many others.

PropOrNot attempts to make the case the websites are either used directly or covertly by the Russians to spread propaganda.

At this point it is unknown if the bill will work its way through the Senate and become law and if it will be used to shut down or curtail websites anonymously characterized as useful idiots or willing participants in disseminating supposed Russian propaganda.

http://anotherdayintheempire.com/bill-targeting-russian-propaganda-passes-house/

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/6393
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 3:55:56 AM EDT
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The problem with free speech and an unregulated internet, is some asshole is always going to spew all kinds of seditious shit.

Just ask little Kim over in best Korea.

Link Posted: 12/4/2016 3:58:33 AM EDT
[#2]
fuck that, writing reps to vote against
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 4:01:56 AM EDT
[#3]
I guess that means we better be saying our goodbyes to Tazhit.
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 4:13:46 AM EDT
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Well, FBHO warned us about fake news stories. This billl will protect us all.
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 4:43:27 AM EDT
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H.R.6393, Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2017, passed in the House of Representatives on November 30.The legislation deals with a number of intelligence related issues, including Russian propaganda, or what the government calls propaganda.

Section 501 calls for the government to counter “measures by Russia to exert covert influence… carried out in coordination with, or at the behest of, political leaders or the security services of the Russian Federation and the role of the Russian Federation has been hidden or not acknowledged publicly."

Definitions include media manipulation, covert broadcasting, disinformation and forgeries, and “funding agents of influence."

It’s easy to see how this law, if passed by the Senate and signed by the president, could be used against “fake news” websites.

On November 24, The Washington Post published an article citing “experts” who claim Russian propaganda helped Donald Trump get elected.

“Two teams of independent researchers found that the Russians exploited American-made technology platforms to attack U.S. democracy at a particularly vulnerable moment, as an insurgent candidate harnessed a wide range of grievances to claim the White House. The sophistication of the Russian tactics may complicate efforts by Facebook and Google to crack down on “fake news,” as they have vowed to do after widespread complaints about the problem,” the Post reported.

The newspaper cited PropOrNot, an anonymous website that posted a hit list of alternative media websites, including Drudge Report, Zero Hedge, Activist Post, Blacklisted News, and many others.

PropOrNot attempts to make the case the websites are either used directly or covertly by the Russians to spread propaganda.

At this point it is unknown if the bill will work its way through the Senate and become law and if it will be used to shut down or curtail websites anonymously characterized as useful idiots or willing participants in disseminating supposed Russian propaganda.

http://anotherdayintheempire.com/bill-targeting-russian-propaganda-passes-house/

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/6393
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Propornot is a Soros joint.  People are fools to give up your 1st Amendment.
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 5:17:58 AM EDT
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Venezuela: "Our economy is crashing because of American subversion and propaganda. There can't possibly be anything wrong with our policies."

America: "Trump won the election due to Russian subversion and propaganda. There's no way we actually got voted out because of our policies."


Link Posted: 12/4/2016 5:28:34 AM EDT
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It already passed in the house Nov 30th.
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 5:31:30 AM EDT
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It already passed in the house Nov 30th.
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fuck that, writing reps to vote against

It already passed in the house Nov 30th.

Why I sent an email to my senators.  Not sure where they elk fall on this though.
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 5:34:12 AM EDT
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Only .gov approved propagenda may be shown to the masses.
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 8:18:12 AM EDT
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We need to the list of who voted what.
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The vote..............
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 8:51:53 AM EDT
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A bet a list of the "fake news" sources and "agents of influence" would scare the shit out you. Because I'd wager they intent on fucking with a lot of conservative sites.
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 8:55:24 AM EDT
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Dan near unanimous.

Fuckers
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 8:59:16 AM EDT
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Fuck it.  Vote it in and use it to pick up where McCarthy left off.  

There is commie propaganda coming from one party and it's not the Pubs.
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 9:02:05 AM EDT
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Dan near unanimous.

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Bipartisan support.  That's a good thing right?  Good thing we have a two-party system here in America.



Link Posted: 12/4/2016 9:05:01 AM EDT
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Isn't all commentary really just "fake news"?

Commentary is the bulk of what is on a News channel/site these days just to fill air.

Look at the recent Taiwan phone call dust-up......Those that don't pay all that much attention would think were were going to war by all the BS commentary.

Link Posted: 12/4/2016 9:20:20 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/4/2016 9:22:17 AM EDT
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Click here: http://www.senate.gov/index.htm.
Find your Senators (if you don't already know).
Tell them what you think.
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 9:22:50 AM EDT
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lol
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 9:32:45 AM EDT
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This wasn't an issue until 2-3 days after Hilary lost, then it was job one/get it done now/national security.

That said, fake news is a big industry thanks to our idiocracy. 10 years ago, just about any weird news put forth on this site would be questioned and verified. Now, folks will believe and run with anything they want to be true no matter the source.

Link Posted: 12/4/2016 9:40:54 AM EDT
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All news is fake news and opinionated. This is just censorship.
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 9:44:01 AM EDT
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If it wasn't for fake news
We wouldn't have no news at all. *

*apologies to William Bell
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 9:52:53 AM EDT
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...aka the Pizzagate Non-disclosure Act of 2016
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 9:53:02 AM EDT
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This wasn't an issue until 2-3 days after Hilary lost, then it was job one/get it done now/national security.

That said, fake news is a big industry thanks to our idiocracy. 10 years ago, just about any weird news put forth on this site would be questioned and verified. Now, folks will believe and run with anything they want to be true no matter the source.
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Watching you.
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 9:54:05 AM EDT
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the problem is they stacked that shit in a regular bill
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 9:56:10 AM EDT
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This bill passes fake news will become mandatory and truth will be illegal.
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 10:00:53 AM EDT
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I would argue that the mainstream media engages in propaganda and lies as much or moreso than ANY OTHER NEWS SOURCE.
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 10:02:27 AM EDT
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Ain't that the truth.

Where the fuck is this "honest news" these fucking politicians are referring to!!??
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 10:06:09 AM EDT
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Dang it, another couple payments from uncle vlad and I could have bought that new boat.
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 10:07:33 AM EDT
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I agree it's censorship.  When evaluating any news, consider the source.  If it's from Russia Today, well, have a few grains of salt with you at all times.
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 10:12:24 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/4/2016 10:17:17 AM EDT
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I for one am tired of of opinion sites being able to call themselves news sites. CNN for example has became nothing more than a leftest SJW site and shouldn't be allowed to be called news.
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 10:20:18 AM EDT
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I for one am tired of of opinion sites being able to call themselves news sites. CNN for example has became nothing more than a leftest SJW site and shouldn't be allowed to be called news.
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They all fucking do it.

How the fuck can politicians make a ruling like this and "carve out" any fucking mainstream news media source is beyond me.

Hopefully I am MISSING SOMETHING BIG with this funding because as it stands now IT IS FUCKING LUDICROUS.
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 10:30:02 AM EDT
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Co-sponsored by NBC's Brian Williams
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 10:49:39 AM EDT
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This is a desired result of Russia's intensive IW campaign. While it serves well to now target the populist right with a direct message,it furthers the idea that all media is to be untrustworthy. Of course the best lies are formed around kernels of truth and yes,media has overwhelmingly supported administrations such as Obama and Merkel's. However,this has allowed Russia to fill gaps in convincing many that RT,?????? 1,Zerohedge,even zany Sputnik stories are legitimate.
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 8:15:55 PM EDT
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What an incredibly dangerous and un-American path our idiot politicians are going down.

Of course I'm certain crap like "The Daily Show" and "This Week Tonight w/ John Oliver" and other places Millennials get their news will be exempted... because "comedy."
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 9:14:40 PM EDT
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Wow
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 9:16:16 PM EDT
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F*ckers.  Why don't they repeal the 2012 law that makes it legal for the US Govt. to use propaganda on us?
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 9:17:44 PM EDT
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lol fuck yourselves losers.
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 9:24:21 PM EDT
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Does this mean Trump can ban CNN and MSNBC next year?
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 9:24:47 PM EDT
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F*ckers.  Why don't they repeal the 2012 law that makes it legal for the US Govt. to use propaganda on us?
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Because .gov approved propaganda is completly fine to those SOBs
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 9:30:37 PM EDT
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I agree it's censorship.  When evaluating any news, consider the source.  If it's from Russia Today, well, have a few grains of salt with you at all times.
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All news is fake news and opinionated. This is just censorship.


I agree it's censorship.  When evaluating any news, consider the source.  If it's from Russia Today, well, have a few grains of salt with you at all times.


Yep. It's censorship regardless how you slice it. What happened to "freedom of the press"?
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 9:31:47 PM EDT
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See above for the truth.
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 9:34:39 PM EDT
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Yep. It's censorship regardless how you slice it. What happened to "freedom of the press"?
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The establishment (and the left) lost a political battle they were guaranteed to win.

Freedom of the press is to blame and that can't be allowed to happen again.
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 9:35:16 PM EDT
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What about;

Harry Reid lied about Mitt Romney’s taxes. He’s still not sorry.

The problem with Reid's allegation? It's just not true. We know that, at least in 2011 and 2010, Romney did pay taxes. How do we know that? Because Romney released his tax returns for those years. In 2011, Romney paid $1.9 million in taxes; in 2010, he paid slightly more than $3 million in taxes.

Our own Fact Checker gave Reid Four Pinocchios for his "no taxes" claim. PolitiFact gave the claim a "Pants on Fire" rating.

Yet Reid (D-Nev.) not only refuses to retract the allegation but also seems to take great pride in it. When pressed by CNN's Dana Bash last year about continuing to defend a statement that is not true, Reid responded, "Romney didn't win, did he?"
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 9:39:28 PM EDT
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Section 501 calls for the government to counter “measures by Russia to exert covert influence… carried out in coordination with, or at the behest of, political leaders or the security services of the Russian Federation and the role of the Russian Federation has been hidden or not acknowledged publicly."

Definitions include media manipulation, covert broadcasting, disinformation and forgeries, and “funding agents of influence."

It’s easy to see how this law, if passed by the Senate and signed by the president, could be used against “fake news” websites.
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No, it isn't.   I just read it.   There's nothing in section 501 of that bill that would give the Federal government the authority to do anything it doesn't already have the authority to do.     Specifically, all it actually does is create a committee.   Whoop tee freaking doo.
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 9:40:03 PM EDT
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The great thing about free speech and an unregulated internet, is some asshole can always spew all kinds of seditious shit.

Just ask little Kim over in best Korea how he feels about Americans trashing him on the web.
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I've made a few minor changes that reflect the spirit of the 1st Amendment.
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 9:40:58 PM EDT
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Yep. It's censorship regardless how you slice it. What happened to "freedom of the press"?
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All news is fake news and opinionated. This is just censorship.


I agree it's censorship.  When evaluating any news, consider the source.  If it's from Russia Today, well, have a few grains of salt with you at all times.


Yep. It's censorship regardless how you slice it. What happened to "freedom of the press"?



Read the actual text.   Don't just read what the website said it does.   Read it for yourself.
Link Posted: 12/4/2016 9:42:39 PM EDT
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So.....fake news website.
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