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Posted: 12/3/2016 1:11:44 PM EDT
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I'm just waiting to see what eventually comes of this.
ETA: Has the family hired an attorney yet? Because that is the surest sign the story is starting to unravel and embarrassing details/criminal charges are coming. Until then, she is either telling the truth, or the cops and Media haven't got close to finding the truth yet. |
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Posted: 12/3/2016 1:23:56 PM EDT
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If human trafficking was involved, it's quite possible someone handpicked her when they saw her out jogging. She is much better than average looking. But with the investigation and the heat the case brought-- maybe they felt it was safer just to let her go? Isn't the penalty for kidnapping/murder about the same in most states? Sometimes the death penalty? Why would they let the victim live and possibly give info? 
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Posted: 12/3/2016 1:25:41 PM EDT
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That website is a big turd blossom. A young girl was taken at knife point from her bedroom, bound, raped repeatedly day after day after day while also subjected to death threats if she manifested any defiance. She was also threatened, by the man who broke into her own bedroom, that if she tried to escape then her kidnapper would murder her family. She was subjected to repeated psychological manipulation to the point where she spoke in weird archaic speech patterns to the police who finally found her. She lived in absolute terror, day after day, week after week, month after month. It is totally understandable that she was psychologically broken down by her captors and didn't try to flee. Not flaming you, Shane. 
What happened to Elizabeth was awful, but her story is full of unanswered questions that will probably never be answered thanks to the Smart family's wealth and connections with Salt Lake City politicians and the Salt Lake Media (Ed's brother Chris writes for the Tribune). As a result it's not surprising there would be a lot of skepticism about the kidnapping because the Smart family has done its level best to massage the story to their benefit. I wouldn't care if Elizabeth were off living her own life and were no longer a public figure, but she has become a prominent activist who has expressed a desire to enter politics someday. At this point it is not at all improper to ask her uncomfortable questions, but every question is met with a "HAVE YOU NO DECENCY, SIR!?!?" response that it naturally breeds cynicism about the whole sordid affair. |
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Posted: 12/3/2016 1:39:09 PM EDT
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Initially that what I was thinking. But trying to control/force a 34yo mother into prostitution seems a lot more work than those types of assholes would bother with. Sadly there is no shortage of young girls/boys who are drug users, runaways or girls that are lured into the sex trade. 
The one thing I have the most trouble understanding about her being found. They claim she was chained(sounds like prison transport chains), she was able to jump from the vehicle? (Unless that changed) Why would someone go through the effort to kidnap her and just let her jump out and not get her back in the car? Or did they throw her out now? Wouldn't be that hard. "Do what we say or a worse fate awaits your children." Maybe 1/2 would fight back, but 1/2 would simply comply. |
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Posted: 12/3/2016 1:55:15 PM EDT
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Not flaming you, Shane.
What happened to Elizabeth was awful, but her story is full of unanswered questions that will probably never be answered thanks to the Smart family's wealth and connections with Salt Lake City politicians and the Salt Lake Media (Ed's brother Chris writes for the Tribune). As a result it's not surprising there would be a lot of skepticism about the kidnapping because the Smart family has done its level best to massage the story to their benefit. I wouldn't care if Elizabeth were off living her own life and were no longer a public figure, but she has become a prominent activist who has expressed a desire to enter politics someday. At this point it is not at all improper to ask her uncomfortable questions, but every question is met with a "HAVE YOU NO DECENCY, SIR!?!?" response that it naturally breeds cynicism about the whole sordid affair. That girl was horrifically abused, if she can say or do something that will stop child abuse from happening to another child then let her shout from the mountain tops. The investigation has this current case, let them figure it out. It is a strange one for sure and screams for attention because she is a pretty blonde, women disappear in the US all the time. One near me was recently found after being held by a crazy for weeks, he killed others and killed her boyfriend. That story was not all over the news because she was not a pretty blonde. |
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Posted: 12/3/2016 2:26:40 PM EDT
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If someone was looking to market her in sex traffic, why would they cut off her long blonde hair?
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Posted: 12/3/2016 11:23:06 PM EDT
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Not flaming you, Shane.
What happened to Elizabeth was awful, but her story is full of unanswered questions that will probably never be answered thanks to the Smart family's wealth and connections with Salt Lake City politicians and the Salt Lake Media (Ed's brother Chris writes for the Tribune). As a result it's not surprising there would be a lot of skepticism about the kidnapping because the Smart family has done its level best to massage the story to their benefit. I wouldn't care if Elizabeth were off living her own life and were no longer a public figure, but she has become a prominent activist who has expressed a desire to enter politics someday. At this point it is not at all improper to ask her uncomfortable questions, but every question is met with a "HAVE YOU NO DECENCY, SIR!?!?" response that it naturally breeds cynicism about the whole sordid affair. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That website is a big turd blossom. A young girl was taken at knife point from her bedroom, bound, raped repeatedly day after day after day while also subjected to death threats if she manifested any defiance. She was also threatened, by the man who broke into her own bedroom, that if she tried to escape then her kidnapper would murder her family. She was subjected to repeated psychological manipulation to the point where she spoke in weird archaic speech patterns to the police who finally found her. She lived in absolute terror, day after day, week after week, month after month. It is totally understandable that she was psychologically broken down by her captors and didn't try to flee. Not flaming you, Shane.
What happened to Elizabeth was awful, but her story is full of unanswered questions that will probably never be answered thanks to the Smart family's wealth and connections with Salt Lake City politicians and the Salt Lake Media (Ed's brother Chris writes for the Tribune). As a result it's not surprising there would be a lot of skepticism about the kidnapping because the Smart family has done its level best to massage the story to their benefit. I wouldn't care if Elizabeth were off living her own life and were no longer a public figure, but she has become a prominent activist who has expressed a desire to enter politics someday. At this point it is not at all improper to ask her uncomfortable questions, but every question is met with a "HAVE YOU NO DECENCY, SIR!?!?" response that it naturally breeds cynicism about the whole sordid affair. She was 15 at the time so I don't know that there is much more to the story as you can easily coerce most teenagers that age. Who knows though. Chapelle did a routine about the case. It's from 1:55 to 4:20. [youtube]https://youtu.be/ZjsufO9hZwo[/youtube] |
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Posted: 12/3/2016 11:28:33 PM EDT
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If someone was looking to market her in sex traffic, why would they cut off her long blonde hair?
There's something rotten in Denmark. It's possible she was not taken for sex trafficking. A few serial killers cut their victims hair to demoralize them, depersonalize them and humiliate them. It is a form of psychological torture. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 9:15:14 AM EDT
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It's possible she was not taken for sex trafficking. A few serial killers cut their victims hair to demoralize them, depersonalize them and humiliate them. It is a form of psychological torture. If the serial killer remembered to cut her hair but forgot to kill her, they are the worst serial killer ever. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 11:43:23 AM EDT
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If someone was looking to market her in sex traffic, why would they cut off her long blonde hair?
There's something rotten in Denmark. there is really no standard scenario in this case that makes any damn sense. 1. kidnapped for a sex toy / rape?? nope, she was not sexually molested ( that im aware of ), and no man was involved. 2. kidnapped by two women... for the hell of it.. so they could abuse her. ( imho not unless they knew her / knew of her thru friends.) if so why release her? 3. kidnapped by sex slavers / porn people... then why is she alive? I'm sure she would remember cameras, or people telling her she was going to be sold for a slave.. etc 4. kidnapped by a ex, or a boyfriend..... nope.. she might remember that, and we would have a suspect. 5. randomly kidnapped by two women.... for what damn reason? then why let her go? 6. she escaped from her abductors.... seems weak. she was supposedly chained to something... but then was walking around freely, door to door... had a chain around her waist that was easily hidden. 7. she faked the entire thing.. or she knew the people who took her, and is covering for them. ( ex / boyfriend/ drug dealers, friends etc ) that's what I'm leaning towards. the fact her phone was found neatly placed on the ground... by her own mailbox.... well, that sounds 100% different than what was reported originally. " her phone was found in a park with blonde hair ripped out stuck in the ear buds. 
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Posted: 12/4/2016 12:33:34 PM EDT
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This whole thing stinks to high heaven.
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Posted: 12/4/2016 3:53:47 PM EDT
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Isn't the penalty for kidnapping/murder about the same in most states? Sometimes the death penalty? Why would they let the victim live and possibly give info? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If human trafficking was involved, it's quite possible someone handpicked her when they saw her out jogging. She is much better than average looking. But with the investigation and the heat the case brought-- maybe they felt it was safer just to let her go? Isn't the penalty for kidnapping/murder about the same in most states? Sometimes the death penalty? Why would they let the victim live and possibly give info? Supreme Court has said only murder can result in the death penalty IIRC. Kharn |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 4:00:45 PM EDT
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My wild ass guess based on others similar claims.
Mexican cartel tie in to family. Nor Cal is a hot bed for illegal cartel grow operations. Throw in a little Mexican meth side dish. Papini family tied to organized crime and serving as a go between for distribution north and east across the northern interstate system. Supermom became superbargainingchip. Or a great big Whoreventure - my new favorite adult word now - LOL. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 4:12:34 PM EDT
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My wild ass guess based on others similar claims. Mexican cartel tie in to family. Nor Cal is a hot bed for illegal cartel grow operations. Throw in a little Mexican meth side dish. Papini family tied to organized crime and serving as a go between for distribution north and east across the northern interstate system. Supermom became superbargainingchip. Or a great big Whoreventure - my new favorite adult word now - LOL. The husband seems to know all the personal emotional details and is willing to share them with th media. Yet when it comes to the actual facts relating to his wife and th crime he either does not know or refuses to say. Google 20/20 and read his description of her release. |
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Posted: 12/4/2016 10:05:17 PM EDT
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My wild ass guess based on others similar claims. Mexican cartel tie in to family. Nor Cal is a hot bed for illegal cartel grow operations. Throw in a little Mexican meth side dish. Papini family tied to organized crime and serving as a go between for distribution north and east across the northern interstate system. Supermom became superbargainingchip. Or a great big Whoreventure - my new favorite adult word now - LOL. I'm not going to lie. I'm pretty pumped that "whoreventure" is catching on with at least one person. When I used it earlier in the thread and told my wife about it she suggest that it might become enter the ARFCOM lexicon. Fingers crossed. 
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Posted: 12/4/2016 10:09:54 PM EDT
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The "super mom" phrase is not being used on the TV channel I watch (ABC?)
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Posted: 12/4/2016 10:12:50 PM EDT
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I'm not going to lie. I'm pretty pumped that "whoreventure" is catching on with at least one person. When I used it earlier in the thread and told my wife about it she suggest that it might become enter the ARFCOM lexicon. Fingers crossed. Are there any whoreventure documentaries available on line? 
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Posted: 12/4/2016 11:05:50 PM EDT
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Depending on where the brand is located, it might be impossible to self inflict that, which would explain why the cops seem to believe she was really abducted. That doesn't explain why, though. I think the motivation is revenge (you stay away from my man you whore!), but we might never know the truth.
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Posted: 12/5/2016 12:17:37 AM EDT
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Are there any whoreventure documentaries available on line? From what I can understand, there are all you can handle. |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 12:18:25 AM EDT
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I'm not going to lie. I'm pretty pumped that "whoreventure" is catching on with at least one person. When I used it earlier in the thread and told my wife about it she suggest that it might become enter the ARFCOM lexicon. Fingers crossed. I think it's a done deal. Simple, descriptive, self explanatory, I like it. eta Aaaaand it's been done. Google search shows the use of "whoreventure" as one word going back quite a bit. Oh well. For just a moment I thought we had a brush with greatness. |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 12:20:48 AM EDT
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I think it's a done deal. Simple, descriptive, self explanatory, I like it. eta Aaaaand it's been done. Google search shows the use of "whoreventure" as one word going back quite a bit. Oh well. For just a moment I thought we had a brush with greatness. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not going to lie. I'm pretty pumped that "whoreventure" is catching on with at least one person. When I used it earlier in the thread and told my wife about it she suggest that it might become enter the ARFCOM lexicon. Fingers crossed. I think it's a done deal. Simple, descriptive, self explanatory, I like it. eta Aaaaand it's been done. Google search shows the use of "whoreventure" as one word going back quite a bit. Oh well. For just a moment I thought we had a brush with greatness. Rule 34 |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 12:31:30 AM EDT
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I think it's a done deal. Simple, descriptive, self explanatory, I like it. eta Aaaaand it's been done. Google search shows the use of "whoreventure" as one word going back quite a bit. Oh well. For just a moment I thought we had a brush with greatness. Dang it. This might be worse than the time I invented the internal wastegate for a turbocharger about 76 years after it was originally patented.
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Posted: 12/5/2016 12:40:26 AM EDT
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I'm not going to lie. I'm pretty pumped that "whoreventure" is catching on with at least one person. When I used it earlier in the thread and told my wife about it she suggest that it might become enter the ARFCOM lexicon. Fingers crossed. I think it's a done deal. Simple, descriptive, self explanatory, I like it. eta Aaaaand it's been done. Google search shows the use of "whoreventure" as one word going back quite a bit. Oh well. For just a moment I thought we had a brush with greatness. Rule 34 Lollolo Urban Dictionary keeps me hip. |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 1:14:34 AM EDT
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Not flaming you, Shane.
What happened to Elizabeth was awful, but her story is full of unanswered questions that will probably never be answered thanks to the Smart family's wealth and connections with Salt Lake City politicians and the Salt Lake Media (Ed's brother Chris writes for the Tribune). As a result it's not surprising there would be a lot of skepticism about the kidnapping because the Smart family has done its level best to massage the story to their benefit. I wouldn't care if Elizabeth were off living her own life and were no longer a public figure, but she has become a prominent activist who has expressed a desire to enter politics someday. At this point it is not at all improper to ask her uncomfortable questions, but every question is met with a "HAVE YOU NO DECENCY, SIR!?!?" response that it naturally breeds cynicism about the whole sordid affair. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That website is a big turd blossom. A young girl was taken at knife point from her bedroom, bound, raped repeatedly day after day after day while also subjected to death threats if she manifested any defiance. She was also threatened, by the man who broke into her own bedroom, that if she tried to escape then her kidnapper would murder her family. She was subjected to repeated psychological manipulation to the point where she spoke in weird archaic speech patterns to the police who finally found her. She lived in absolute terror, day after day, week after week, month after month. It is totally understandable that she was psychologically broken down by her captors and didn't try to flee. Not flaming you, Shane.
What happened to Elizabeth was awful, but her story is full of unanswered questions that will probably never be answered thanks to the Smart family's wealth and connections with Salt Lake City politicians and the Salt Lake Media (Ed's brother Chris writes for the Tribune). As a result it's not surprising there would be a lot of skepticism about the kidnapping because the Smart family has done its level best to massage the story to their benefit. I wouldn't care if Elizabeth were off living her own life and were no longer a public figure, but she has become a prominent activist who has expressed a desire to enter politics someday. At this point it is not at all improper to ask her uncomfortable questions, but every question is met with a "HAVE YOU NO DECENCY, SIR!?!?" response that it naturally breeds cynicism about the whole sordid affair. I wasn't aware that there were unanswered questions. Then again, if you are correct and the Smart family has manipulated the narrative, I will be terribly disappointed in them. |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 1:42:49 AM EDT
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He has none. He's just posting nonsense. Mods should delete that post unless his claim can be supported with factual evidence. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Source? He has none. He's just posting nonsense. Mods should delete that post unless his claim can be supported with factual evidence. "An anonymous source told Heavy that they were advised that Papini’s “extended family” claimed she had staged her own abduction in 2006." https://www.google.com/amp/heavy.com/news/2016/11/sherri-papini-kidnapped-abducted-hoax-mexicans-truth-lie-fake-publicity-redding-california-facebook-photos-police-reward-gofundme/amp/?client=safari |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 5:47:27 AM EDT
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All based on "an anonymous source." Article is useless if that is all they have. Hey, I could quote myself and be my own "anonymous source," too!
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"An anonymous source told Heavy that they were advised that Papini’s “extended family” claimed she had staged her own abduction in 2006." https://www.google.com/amp/heavy.com/news/2016/11/sherri-papini-kidnapped-abducted-hoax-mexicans-truth-lie-fake-publicity-redding-california-facebook-photos-police-reward-gofundme/amp/?client=safari |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 6:21:01 AM EDT
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Lollolo Urban Dictionary keeps me hip. That's something better investigated on Google Images. Just not at work. Lol |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 7:43:44 AM EDT
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Rule 34 I think "Oh my god it spins" is the only one originating from here. There's plenty of arf originals, but they only reside here. |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 11:45:32 AM EDT
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I think "Oh my god it spins" is the only one originating from here. There's plenty of arf originals, but they only reside here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Rule 34 I think "Oh my god it spins" is the only one originating from here. There's plenty of arf originals, but they only reside here. I met Karma at SHOT one year. I have the picture somewhere. He wasn't particularly amused that he's recognized for that.
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Posted: 12/5/2016 12:53:31 PM EDT
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Still no high profile manhunt for the two latinas in an SUV driving around kidnapping white girls.
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Posted: 12/5/2016 1:03:40 PM EDT
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I think "Oh my god it spins" is the only one originating from here. There's plenty of arf originals, but they only reside here. Shower Cookie shows up a lot in random places, too. |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 1:14:13 PM EDT
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EXCLUSIVE: Good Samaritan tells how she called 911 after she asked kidnapped mom Sherri Papini if she was OK when she spotted her looking scared with two MEN at rest stop just days before she was found
The mom-of-five said no one from Shasta County Sheriff’s Department has called her back since she made the report. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3982222/Redding-executive-tells-called-911-spotted-kidnapped-mom-Sherri-Papini-looking-worn-scared-two-MEN-blue-pick-truck-rest-stop-just-days-found.html |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 1:17:38 PM EDT
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"The only thing almost as mysterious as Sherri Papini’s disappearance was the hostage negotiator supposedly retained by an anonymous donor to find her.
Papini, a 34-year-old California mother of two disappeared during a November 2 jog, setting off a national media firestorm. Pleas for her safe return went unanswered. Then Cameron Gamble entered the case. Gamble, a 30-something self-professed abduction expert, said he had the backing of an anonymous donor offering $50,000 in exchange for Papini’s safe return. Gamble described himself as a professional hostage negotiator, and the possible key to Papini’s release. But Gamble is no expert. Instead, his resume suggests an obscure self-defense coach, who appears to have inserted himself in a woman’s disappearance to parlay it into fame and fortune...." 
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/12/05/the-shady-hostage-negotiator-at-the-center-of-sherri-papini-s-abduction.html About time the media start digging. New question. Do Gamble and Supermom know each other? if so what is the nature of their relationship? Did Gamble arrange the kidnapping to generate future business? If so is Sherri a victim or a co-conspirator? Why is the mainstream media afraid to ask tough questions? |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 1:21:47 PM EDT
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EXCLUSIVE: Good Samaritan tells how she called 911 after she asked kidnapped mom Sherri Papini if she was OK when she spotted her looking scared with two MEN at rest stop just days before she was found http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/11/29/12/3AD75ABE00000578-0-image-a-58_1480422000499.jpg http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3982222/Redding-executive-tells-called-911-spotted-kidnapped-mom-Sherri-Papini-looking-worn-scared-two-MEN-blue-pick-truck-rest-stop-just-days-found.html Well, well. Megawhoreventure? Megawhorefiancialscam? I'm sure some investigator is looking into the family's finances too. |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 4:15:27 PM EDT
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Not flaming you, Shane.
What happened to Elizabeth was awful, but her story is full of unanswered questions that will probably never be answered thanks to the Smart family's wealth and connections with Salt Lake City politicians and the Salt Lake Media (Ed's brother Chris writes for the Tribune). As a result it's not surprising there would be a lot of skepticism about the kidnapping because the Smart family has done its level best to massage the story to their benefit. I wouldn't care if Elizabeth were off living her own life and were no longer a public figure, but she has become a prominent activist who has expressed a desire to enter politics someday. At this point it is not at all improper to ask her uncomfortable questions, but every question is met with a "HAVE YOU NO DECENCY, SIR!?!?" response that it naturally breeds cynicism about the whole sordid affair. There are multiple News agencies in Utah... DNews, Trib... What "questions" are there to answer...? The Trib got their dick slapped for reporting false information, and for taking false information about the case to outside news agencies about the Smart case. Two reporters got fired, and the Smarts were cut a check to make it go away. She was just a kid, and the abuse was horrendous. |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 4:18:25 PM EDT
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She was 15 at the time so I don't know that there is much more to the story as you can easily coerce most teenagers that age. Who knows though. She was 14. Link |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 4:26:32 PM EDT
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I wasn't aware that there were unanswered questions. Then again, if you are correct and the Smart family has manipulated the narrative, I will be terribly disappointed in them. I am curious as well. I know the Trib got raked over the coals, and lost against the Smarts for lying about the case. I know the Trib fired two reporters for making up stuff about the Smarts. But the Smarts manipulating the case... With the anti-Mormon Trib, and other left-leaning SL "news" in Utah who would love to tear-down the Smarts --or any LDS family-- it would be out there, if it was out there. General statements without facts are hard to believe, especially with the extremes in media in Utah. DNews and SL Trib are not on the same planet. Trib editors are anti-Mormon. DNews is a conservative-leaning paper. Salt Lake Weekly is hard-core anti-Mormon. If they had a wiff of information, it would be out there. |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 4:58:18 PM EDT
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Are there any whoreventure documentaries available on line? Eat Pray Love |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 6:14:33 PM EDT
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Well, well. Megawhoreventure? Megawhorefiancialscam? I'm sure some investigator is looking into the family's finances too. Superwhore? Superscam? |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 6:22:01 PM EDT
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Superwhore? Superscam? No think BIGGER! Like MEGA bigger! |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 6:31:13 PM EDT
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EXCLUSIVE: Good Samaritan tells how she called 911 after she asked kidnapped mom Sherri Papini if she was OK when she spotted her looking scared with two MEN at rest stop just days before she was found http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/11/29/12/3AD75ABE00000578-0-image-a-58_1480422000499.jpg http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3982222/Redding-executive-tells-called-911-spotted-kidnapped-mom-Sherri-Papini-looking-worn-scared-two-MEN-blue-pick-truck-rest-stop-just-days-found.html Sounds like the Whoreventure had some rotisserie time scheduled. |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 6:32:13 PM EDT
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Sounds like the Whoreventure had some rotisserie time scheduled. Yep. She was obviously spit roasted. |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 6:39:24 PM EDT
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I haven't commented on this one because it seemed to be faked. Or at least my take away is something is fishy from what I have seen.
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Posted: 12/5/2016 7:30:13 PM EDT
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Perhaps those guys found a stray whore? It's happened to me before.
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Posted: 12/5/2016 7:41:03 PM EDT
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She was 15 at the time so I don't know that there is much more to the story as you can easily coerce most teenagers that age. Who knows though. She was 14. Link She turned 15 half-way through her 9 month kidnapping. A 15 year-old is still easily to coerce so I'm not sure what point you were trying to make. |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 7:47:51 PM EDT
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Virtually everything about this case is odd, from her husband's statements, to this shady "hostage negotiator" coming out of nowhere, to what we have learned about it already. Now they've skipped town in the middle of the investigation, leaving the dogs behind:
Kidnapped mom skips town The bottom line is, kidnapping as it's been described in this case, simply doesn't exist in the United States. Of course, there are kidnappings for sexually deviant reasons where the perpetrator locks the victim in a dungeon, or when a non-custodial parent kidnaps a child, or a person is kidnapped and murdered by a serial killer, etc. But a kidnapping like this? It just doesn't happen like that. Sex trafficking? This isn't Taken. Trafficked persons are runaways, drug addicts, illegal aliens - people that don't have anyone to go looking for them when they turn up missing. And after all that, they just push her out of a vehicle on the side of the road, after supposedly brutalizing her, going so far as to brand her. It just doesn't go down like that. There has to be some kind of motive to do a kidnapping, and there isn't one in this case. |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 7:58:55 PM EDT
[#47]
Watch his body language
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tYxtZV7MuM&feature=youtu.be can't figure out how to imbed. |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 8:04:57 PM EDT
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Keith previously revealed that his wife's captors kept her in restraints at all times, whether she was inside the house or out with them in a vehicle.
'She had a metal chain around her waist. She had a bag over her head,' said Keith. 'She was chained anytime she was in a vehicle. They opened the door... they cut something, freed her restraints that were holding her in the vehicle and they pushed her out.' They even kept her chained up after releasing her on the side of the road at around 4am on the morning of Thanksgiving. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4003236/California-supermom-flees-family-home-husband-children-investigation-disappearance-continues-leaves-dogs-behind.html#ixzz4S0mcPcre Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook Who takes a kidnap vehicle out and about in a vehicle? |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 8:10:05 PM EDT
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Written while she was in high school in 2003? She turned 21 in 2003. Probably wasn't in high school. Might be a clue that it was fake.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No way this is real. I haven't read all 11 pages, has her past online posting about "The Latinos" already been discussed? The excuse there was "Oh that was just someone planking her." Riggghhht. Written while she was in high school in 2003? She turned 21 in 2003. Probably wasn't in high school. Might be a clue that it was fake. The story wasn't written while she was I highschool instead it was a story about here time in highschool. |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 8:46:31 PM EDT
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She was 15 at the time so I don't know that there is much more to the story as you can easily coerce most teenagers that age. Who knows though. She was 14. Link I saw the link was just a google search. So I went over Wikipedia as my reference. Some of those details do seem super sketchy but not in the way where new questions need to be answered. Agreed that what happened to her is horrible and somewhat different than what is being discussed here. |
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