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Link Posted: 11/9/2016 8:02:58 PM EDT
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And CA would return the favor and keep their taxes and it would be a net win for them (by 21%).
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We need to cut off ALL federal funds going to CA until they kneel.


And CA would return the favor and keep their taxes and it would be a net win for them (by 21%).


While residents of CA pay taxes, the state doesn't. The residents will continue to pay.
Link Posted: 11/9/2016 8:03:59 PM EDT
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Fuck their funding.

They created the mess, THEY should pay to clean it up.
Link Posted: 11/9/2016 8:04:43 PM EDT
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I have a solution to "Sanctuary Cities"...

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I approve this message.
Link Posted: 11/9/2016 8:05:17 PM EDT
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I may be A hic but I love living in Iowa out in middle of no where
Link Posted: 11/9/2016 8:06:35 PM EDT
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Just fucking secede already.
Link Posted: 11/9/2016 8:06:58 PM EDT
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You mean from the west coast of the river that it shares with Arizona?

That's going to be tough. CA would retaliate by cutting the flow of pron east bound.

What about:

Franklin County
Nassau County
New York City
Onondaga County
Rensselaer County
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Suffolk County
St. Lawrence County
Wayne County

Counties in New York?
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Cut funding?  How about cutting all that water that flows into California from the east?


You mean from the west coast of the river that it shares with Arizona?

That's going to be tough. CA would retaliate by cutting the flow of pron east bound.

What about:

Franklin County
Nassau County
New York City
Onondaga County
Rensselaer County
Saratoga County
Suffolk County
St. Lawrence County
Wayne County

Counties in New York?

Paul, I stayed up all night after the election, so maybe I'm too tired but I'm not figuring out what "pron" is?
Link Posted: 11/9/2016 8:07:03 PM EDT
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The state pays for their housing, welfare, medical, jailing, and education payments.

That's a federal mandate for every single city in the nation ... not just sanctuary cities, the vast overwhelming majority of them aren't in California of course.

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Quoted:This, start by raising CA taxes to cover the SC.


The state pays for their housing, welfare, medical, jailing, and education payments.

That's a federal mandate for every single city in the nation ... not just sanctuary cities, the vast overwhelming majority of them aren't in California of course.

Sanctuary Cites


Sucks for them but it's avoidable......Just turn the illegals over to ICE to be deported.

Cut off the federal funding to every sanctuary city and watch them fall into line.  Squeeze them till it hurts.
Link Posted: 11/9/2016 8:07:23 PM EDT
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You mean from the west coast of the river that it shares with Arizona?

That's going to be tough. CA would retaliate by cutting the flow of pron east bound.

What about:

Franklin County
Nassau County
New York City
Onondaga County
Rensselaer County
Saratoga County
Suffolk County
St. Lawrence County
Wayne County

Counties in New York?
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Cut funding?  How about cutting all that water that flows into California from the east?


You mean from the west coast of the river that it shares with Arizona?

That's going to be tough. CA would retaliate by cutting the flow of pron east bound.

What about:

Franklin County
Nassau County
New York City
Onondaga County
Rensselaer County
Saratoga County
Suffolk County
St. Lawrence County
Wayne County

Counties in New York?


The people of CA just voted for severe ammo restrictions. By a very large margin, I understand. As such I'm not inclined to defend this state.
Link Posted: 11/9/2016 8:07:50 PM EDT
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Paul, I stayed up all night after the election, so maybe I'm too tired but I'm not figuring out what "pron" is?
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Swap the r and the o.
Link Posted: 11/9/2016 8:08:54 PM EDT
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On twitter "Brian Hanlon @hanlonbt

Wrong. We need to build a San Francisco that can accommodate refugees from Trump's America."
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Honestly, I'd fucking love it if those assholes moved BACK to Kali.  

Theyd be doing is a favor If they did.
Link Posted: 11/9/2016 8:09:47 PM EDT
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Raise taxes on real estate...isn't the average house there $1m+

Just tax at 40% and see what happens. Think off all the homeless that can be fed low carbon emission free range sushi!
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The democrats have tired to get rid of Prop 13, which caps the housing tax to 1-1.25%



They are going to try again



 
Link Posted: 11/9/2016 8:12:13 PM EDT
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Actually the state has tried for decades to close the southern border and the federal government has successfully sued and won in federal court preventing CA's efforts to control the federal border.

You might have missed that huh?
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Fuck their funding.

They created the mess, THEY should pay to clean it up.


Actually the state has tried for decades to close the southern border and the federal government has successfully sued and won in federal court preventing CA's efforts to control the federal border.

You might have missed that huh?


Are you talking about propositions from the 90s?

I don't think the current politicians here, or the current population, would move to end immigration. Hell, San Diego is now a sanctuary city. Hispanics are already a plurality. There is also large Asian and Muslim immigration, neither of whom are likely to want to curb immigration.
Link Posted: 11/9/2016 8:12:40 PM EDT
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Cry me  a river
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Link Posted: 11/9/2016 8:15:28 PM EDT
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They famously did as Obama sent a bus load of illegals here for settlement in a small city in the Inland Empire (east of LA 30 miles) and the city stood up, blocked the bus ... and sent them back to where they came.



The idiots in San Francisco are idiots.
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New York Times says California will lead the resistance


They famously did as Obama sent a bus load of illegals here for settlement in a small city in the Inland Empire (east of LA 30 miles) and the city stood up, blocked the bus ... and sent them back to where they came.



The idiots in San Francisco are idiots.

I did catch that news about the town, so like most states California has cities, colleges and state capital vs rest but their numbers are big enough and NYC + San Francisco team up to pour $, media and political pressure on the non-blue parts remaining in California, so I assume the born in California conservatives will eventually be overrun without a lifeline or miracle. The recent gun control laws just keep coming, despite fighting hard against them, resisting them in court or ignoring them. Hoping Trump fed appt judges might help.
Link Posted: 11/9/2016 8:19:38 PM EDT
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Pornography - it's a 15 year old meme at least.
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Pornography - it's a 15 year old meme at least.

Thanks
Link Posted: 11/9/2016 8:22:22 PM EDT
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Swap the r and the o.
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Paul, I stayed up all night after the election, so maybe I'm too tired but I'm not figuring out what "pron" is?


Swap the r and the o.

Thanks
Link Posted: 11/9/2016 8:32:01 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/9/2016 8:41:21 PM EDT
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The fix is simple change the law for people being in the country illegally to a class A or at least B felony, then arrest sanctuary city mayors and town council members for harboring know felons which I believe can net them up to 10 years in prison for every count and in most cases there would be 1000's of counts if not 10's of 1000's.

Do this in a few major cities like San Fransisco and LA and watch sanctuary cities disappear overnight.
Link Posted: 11/9/2016 8:47:03 PM EDT
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I would bring the full force of the Federal gov down on California and make

them beg to whatever queer god they worship for mercy. There wouldn't

be an illegal invader within 500 miles of the California border when I got through.

Those that didn't leave willingly would be rounded up and put in internment camps in the desert indefinitely.



Stupid games, stupid prizes.
Link Posted: 11/9/2016 8:51:11 PM EDT
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Sounds like AZ needs to cut off Californias water supply...
Link Posted: 11/9/2016 8:51:21 PM EDT
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Burn the illegal cities to the ground.
Link Posted: 11/9/2016 8:58:28 PM EDT
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There isn't "immigration" in CA.  It's an invasion by the 3rd World (legal and otherwise), and it's been exploited by leftist politicians who maintain their political power be allowing these hoards to swarm in.  The private sector loves it because a surplus in the labor market there means lower operating costs and higher profit margins while the taxpayer subsidizes these low wage earners with food stamps, health care, and housing.  

Other border states like AZ and TX push back against this invasion, but the demographics in CA have reached a tipping point.  Too many foreign born residents vote, and the state that voted for lower taxes, against gun control and against gay marriage in the '80s and '90s will continue to be ruled by a one-party legislature until the residents there feel the pain and grow the balls to tell the courts to fuck off.

If TX and AZ can resist, so can CA.  They choose not to, and haven't since Gov. Wilson left office from what I can tell.
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So CA and it's citizens can stop sending money to the Feds, right?
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Cut funding for all sanctuary cities.

Start with San Francisco https://therapyfirst.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/kate-steinle.jpg


The guy coming back into the US 4 times is not a CA or SF issue........

CA & SF are fucked up but let's at least put blame on the Fed level where appropriate.
Link Posted: 11/9/2016 9:24:29 PM EDT
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Actually the state has tried for decades to close the southern border and the federal government has successfully sued and won in federal court preventing CA's efforts to control the federal border.

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Fuck their funding.

They created the mess, THEY should pay to clean it up.


Actually the state has tried for decades to close the southern border and the federal government has successfully sued and won in federal court preventing CA's efforts to control the federal border.

You might have missed that huh?


Prop 187..............
Link Posted: 11/9/2016 9:48:32 PM EDT
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There isn't "immigration" in CA.  It's an invasion by the 3rd World (legal and otherwise), and it's been exploited by leftist politicians who maintain their political power be allowing these hoards to swarm in.  The private sector loves it because a surplus in the labor market there means lower operating costs and higher profit margins while the taxpayer subsidizes these low wage earners with food stamps, health care, and housing.  

Other border states like AZ and TX push back against this invasion, but the demographics in CA have reached a tipping point.  Too many foreign born residents vote, and the state that voted for lower taxes, against gun control and against gay marriage in the '80s and '90s will continue to be ruled by a one-party legislature until the residents there feel the pain and grow the balls to tell the courts to fuck off.

If TX and AZ can resist, so can CA.  They choose not to, and haven't since Gov. Wilson left office from what I can tell.
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If they are citizens that's their right.

At least some of the problems in CA are a result of the Proposition system - not courts.
Link Posted: 11/9/2016 9:52:46 PM EDT
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And CA would return the favor and keep their taxes and it would be a net win for them (by 21%).
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We need to cut off ALL federal funds going to CA until they kneel.


And CA would return the favor and keep their taxes and it would be a net win for them (by 21%).


That's not how this works
Link Posted: 11/9/2016 9:54:36 PM EDT
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The guy coming back into the US 4 times is not a CA or SF issue........

CA & SF are fucked up but let's at least put blame on the Fed level where appropriate.
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Cut funding for all sanctuary cities.

Start with San Francisco https://therapyfirst.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/kate-steinle.jpg


The guy coming back into the US 4 times is not a CA or SF issue........

CA & SF are fucked up but let's at least put blame on the Fed level where appropriate.

Agree immigration is a federal issue but unhappy at San Francisco city council policy and response after her murder. https://www.google.com/amp/townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2016/05/25/sanctuary-city-protections-remain-in-san-francisco-even-after-kate-steinle-death-n2168832%3Famp%3Dtrue
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Except the federals have had a catch-and-release policy. Say an illegal manages to afford the rent or mortgage on the average San Francisco home at $778,000 and they stray across the city border into Palo Alto and get arrested. The locals run the fake ID and hand the guy over to the feds ... they ticket them and release them to return to court months later. Since the ID was fake the illegal buys another fake ID and moves on with their life hoping their prints never get run again.

I pray that Trump stops the catch-and-release program. Hell put a bounty on their asses of $5000 a head and give police agencies a reason to capture and turn them in. Eventually it won't matter if their are individual cities or even whole counties (see above examples of the dozens in WA and NY) as the illegals will find they are not able to safely travel.

Next remove the federal mandate that the states pay for the illegals welfare benefits.
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Sucks for them but it's avoidable......Just turn the illegals over to ICE to be deported.

Cut off the federal funding to every sanctuary city and watch them fall into line.  Squeeze them till it hurts.


Except the federals have had a catch-and-release policy. Say an illegal manages to afford the rent or mortgage on the average San Francisco home at $778,000 and they stray across the city border into Palo Alto and get arrested. The locals run the fake ID and hand the guy over to the feds ... they ticket them and release them to return to court months later. Since the ID was fake the illegal buys another fake ID and moves on with their life hoping their prints never get run again.

I pray that Trump stops the catch-and-release program. Hell put a bounty on their asses of $5000 a head and give police agencies a reason to capture and turn them in. Eventually it won't matter if their are individual cities or even whole counties (see above examples of the dozens in WA and NY) as the illegals will find they are not able to safely travel.

Next remove the federal mandate that the states pay for the illegals welfare benefits.


Oh I fully expect the Border Patrol and ICE will have their hands untied.

Due to policies starting with W and the farm lobby simple things like interior transport (bus/train stations, etc) checks that used to net droves of illegals as they traveled between seasonal jobs have been stopped.

My neighbor told me that just two BP agents would nab and deport 30 illegals about every two weeks that way. If they hit a dry spell they would hit where they congregated for day jobs. They were not issued shit, they were briefly held, loaded-up and deported.
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Reagan carried CA..
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Ca will never ever vote republican.

Reagan carried CA..



30 years ago yeah,  today no. I did see the red eastern parts of the state.  I know it's not everone
Link Posted: 11/10/2016 11:26:35 AM EDT
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"California will have fewer allies in Washington after Tuesday’s election, in which the state bucked the national tide and continued its leftward march"


Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article113810948.html#storylink=cpy
Link Posted: 11/10/2016 11:29:40 AM EDT
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The liberals have been using big federal money to shape local/state policy for decades. Time to turn those captured cannons around. If you did pull fed funding in any area that was a functional"sanctuary city" that practice would end very quickly.

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At least we managed to get rid of Kamala Harris.  She'll spend the next six years in DC as a minority party, junior member of the Senate.  Nobody will pay any attention to her there, and she won't be able to do any harm.
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At least we managed to get rid of Kamala Harris.  She'll spend the next six years in DC as a minority party, junior member of the Senate.  Nobody will pay any attention to her there, and she won't be able to do any harm.
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I read Riverside and Orange county turned blue for the first time ever in a Presidential election Are we losing the last diehard conservative pro 2A areas in southern California? What happened with San Diego? https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/politics/la-me-oc-clinton-20161109-story,amp.html "Hillary Clinton turned Orange County blue. Minorities and college-educated women helped her."
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California needs to be treated just like the states of the old confederacy got treated in the 50s and 60s
Gun control needs to be treated just like Jim Crow.
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We need to cut off ALL federal funds going to CA until they kneel.

California needs to be treated just like the states of the old confederacy got treated in the 50s and 60s
Gun control needs to be treated just like Jim Crow.


Been saying this since Trump won.

No federal funds for California until we get ALL our constitutional rights back.
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I read Riverside and Orange county turned blue for the first time ever in a Presidential election Are we losing the last diehard conservative pro 2A areas in southern California? What happened with San Diego? https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/politics/la-me-oc-clinton-20161109-story,amp.html "Hillary Clinton turned Orange County blue. Minorities and college-educated women helped her."
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At least we managed to get rid of Kamala Harris.  She'll spend the next six years in DC as a minority party, junior member of the Senate.  Nobody will pay any attention to her there, and she won't be able to do any harm.

I read Riverside and Orange county turned blue for the first time ever in a Presidential election Are we losing the last diehard conservative pro 2A areas in southern California? What happened with San Diego? https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/politics/la-me-oc-clinton-20161109-story,amp.html "Hillary Clinton turned Orange County blue. Minorities and college-educated women helped her."


Migration.

The moderately wealthy and the working class are leaving the state in droves. Regulations, taxation and a feeling of "you don't belong/are not welcome here anymore" are driving a lot of producers out.
They are being backfilled by friends from points further south.

Orange county was the last Republican holdout in southern California. For the most part, cost of living is too high for a lot of our guests from down south.

San Diego has been blue since 2004. The middle class is being squeezed out by the super wealthy and the super poor.



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If they are citizens that's their right.

At least some of the problems in CA are a result of the Proposition system - not courts.
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There isn't "immigration" in CA.  It's an invasion by the 3rd World (legal and otherwise), and it's been exploited by leftist politicians who maintain their political power be allowing these hoards to swarm in.  The private sector loves it because a surplus in the labor market there means lower operating costs and higher profit margins while the taxpayer subsidizes these low wage earners with food stamps, health care, and housing.  

Other border states like AZ and TX push back against this invasion, but the demographics in CA have reached a tipping point.  Too many foreign born residents vote, and the state that voted for lower taxes, against gun control and against gay marriage in the '80s and '90s will continue to be ruled by a one-party legislature until the residents there feel the pain and grow the balls to tell the courts to fuck off.

If TX and AZ can resist, so can CA.  They choose not to, and haven't since Gov. Wilson left office from what I can tell.


If they are citizens that's their right.

At least some of the problems in CA are a result of the Proposition system - not courts.


Completely irrelevant.

CA is being overrun with cultural values so vastly different than that of traditional America (which is the intent) that the results are predictable.  

You gloss over this fact, and hurriedly rush to the defense "(some of) these people are citizens and have a right to vote!"

I don't get it.







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I hope Trump flips them all upside down and ends this bullshit.
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Fuck your funding

And fuck the leadership of California.

Keep fighting the good fight conservative Californians.  

You may just have got some much needed help...
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Fuck your funding

And fuck the leadership of California.

Keep fighting the good fight conservative Californians.  

You may just have got some much needed help...


Thanks.

Fuck 'em and fuck their funding.
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Cut federal funding to all sanctuary cities, I don't give a rat's diseased ass if they're in CA or in my own state.  Fuck those fuckers. Tar and feathers is far too good for them.
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Actually, if CA stopped educating illegals and their kids there would be PLENTY of funding for the remaining students.
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Bust a deal, face the wheel.

Break the law, face the Donald.
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