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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:30:36 PM EDT
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The cops attacked the defense attorney, in court, for defending his clients. Where the fuck do I live? What country has this become? Those scumbags have shamed us all. I am horrified that they are my countrymen. You live in a shithole banana republic. Damn. I've never been tased in court, but I know one bailif wanted to. He told me. 
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:30:46 PM EDT
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Is this the hands up video people referred to? It looks like he is throwing his hands straight up, but it also looks like he has something in his hand, possibly a gun. But that doesn't make sense because I thought authorities said he was reaching for a gun, not that he had one in his hand. Something doesn't make sense. Maybe this isn't the guy who actually got shot? Article was interesting though, and very concerning. I'm coming in trying to make sense so someone correct me if I'm wrong Quote HistoryQuoted:
Is this the hands up video people referred to? It looks like he is throwing his hands straight up, but it also looks like he has something in his hand, possibly a gun. But that doesn't make sense because I thought authorities said he was reaching for a gun, not that he had one in his hand. Something doesn't make sense. Maybe this isn't the guy who actually got shot? Article was interesting though, and very concerning. I'm coming in trying to make sense so someone correct me if I'm wrong Well I can't find the original story, but the FBI guy was the one standing in the woods. When Lavoy got out of the vehicle the FBI man fired two shots, one missing everything. the other broke the rear passenger window striking Bundy in the arm, and lodged in the roof. The FBI agents (5 total) did not report firing the shots. Later they removed the projectile and then replaced it. Another OL article on the FBI |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:30:51 PM EDT
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Good, but I bet the Feds are pissed..fuck em...thank you jury... Wow, look, justice? Though I'm jumping ship on this country, but no not moving away, if FHRC wins. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:31:03 PM EDT
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Watch em get rearrested on state charges Watch them get found not guilty again. Our un-elected Governor is quite displeased. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:32:26 PM EDT
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Can somebody explain if it was at all reasonable to attack and taze the defense attorney? WTF?
Is this the new normal? |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:32:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:33:17 PM EDT
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So let me get this straight about the courtroom incident. The lawyer asked the Judge to see documentation showing his client was still legally in the custody of the U.S. Marshals Service in a lawyer like fashion to be transported to another trial in NV. While this occurred USMS Deputies approached the lawyer and his client. The judge told the USMS Deputies to stop at some point (I would presume so the judge could explain something to the lawyer and client). The USMS Deputies took down the lawyer anyway and used a Taser to subdue him. No one was making a move to escape the courtroom or get crazy when this happened. Do I have this correct? If thats what really transpired, WTF? Somewhere, in there, should be inserted, 'The lawyer started hollering, and carrying on, and, wouldn't settle down and listen to the Judge'. From what I've read on it, any ways. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:33:34 PM EDT
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Well, I still think they're retards. And, agree with the verdict. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol, yea, everyone on arfcom is cheering for them now. Weren't ya'll calling them retards about 9 months ago. Well, I still think they're retards. And, agree with the verdict. Pretty much this. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:34:23 PM EDT
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So .gov spying on it's citizens? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's is the only reason they didn't do a Waco or Ruby Ridge on those people. Too many LEO's in there and not enough trees to cover up the dirty deed..... So .gov spying on it's citizens? My bet is that the "informants" are the ones that spurred the whole thing on. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:34:50 PM EDT
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Sounds fucky. He would have been in custody so there would be no need to have him mobbed to extradite him to Nevada. He would have been escorted to whatever facility he was being held at and extradited from there because Nevada would have placex a hold on him. At least if it was being done professionally.
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:34:53 PM EDT
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As deputy marshals yelled, "Stop resisting,'' the judge demanded, "Everybody out of the courtroom now!''
and that's when the ass whipping started... |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:35:06 PM EDT
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He is another one for ignore and watch list. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good. Shame the one guy got killed. Finicum got what he wanted: a shootout with the cops. It just didn't turn out like he'd fantasized. Oh well. Poster noted He is another one for ignore and watch list. Now it's just plain funny. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:35:11 PM EDT
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Somewhere, in there, should be inserted, 'The lawyer started hollering, and carrying on, and, wouldn't settle down and listen to the Judge'. From what I've read on it, any ways. Can you link to an article? |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:36:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:36:56 PM EDT
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Lol, yea, everyone on arfcom is cheering for them now. Weren't ya'll calling them retards about 9 months ago. I still think they are. I still think they are wrong in many of their ideas, though I never thought them wrong on all of their ideas. I also still think the federal and state governments have gotten way to big for their britches. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:37:59 PM EDT
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I'm weirded out by you posting this. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wow. There is an undercurrent of disenfranchisement among large sectors of the public that many don't seem to comprehend. It goes beyond being pissed off. People believe their votes, their rights, and their money have been stolen from them dishonestly. They believe that they have no say in their own lives, that their leaders are dishonest and are not rightfully elected in some cases. It is similar to pre civil way...Lincoln did some dirty shit to get elected and was not even on the ballot in most southern states. Thus, the people of those states did not see him as rightfully elected and as such, his laws were unjust. We all know what happened. If the people don't trust the election, they will not follow the laws of the elected leaders. They will morally see them as unjust and wrong...they will disobey. A good number of people are seeing it that way. The ballot box... The Jury box... The ammo box... I hope this nation heals soon. We must have integrity in the electoral process. We can't function without it. People won't trust the system without it. I'm weirded out by you posting this. No kidding. Its a sign of the apocalypse for me to agree (enthusiastically!) with him... |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:38:11 PM EDT
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I wonder if the 15 informants present at Malheur had any part to play in instigating the event. Surely not. was it a Klan rally too? |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:42:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Since everyone was acquitted of all charges, I don't think the felony murder rule applies here. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When does the murder trial start for the killers of Robert LaVoy Finicum? Since everyone was acquitted of all charges, I don't think the felony murder rule applies here. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:45:03 PM EDT
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Wow, look, justice? Though I'm jumping ship on this country, but no not moving away, if FHRC wins. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good, but I bet the Feds are pissed..fuck em...thank you jury... Wow, look, justice? Though I'm jumping ship on this country, but no not moving away, if FHRC wins. Maybe they should do their jobs without violating people's rights and while staying within the confines of the Constitution..And that includes the agent that fired two rounds off at a man who was zero threat with arms in the air..then hiding evidence and lying about it...in this exact case... Or should we talk about the roaches that would not arrest a politician for treason and all sorts of other charges, when they had incontributable proof of wrong doing? As in the FBI and Clinton emails.. Goverment has no right to expect us to back their rule of law when it is corrupt based on our Constitution, and they actively pervert it to protect their own at their own wish, but then utterly crush a lesser mans world for even minor infractions compared to their own. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:48:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is an undercurrent of disenfranchisement among large sectors of the public that many don't seem to comprehend. It goes beyond being pissed off. People believe their votes, their rights, and their money have been stolen from them dishonestly. They believe that they have no say in their own lives, that their leaders are dishonest and are not rightfully elected in some cases. It is similar to pre civil way...Lincoln did some dirty shit to get elected and was not even on the ballot in most southern states. Thus, the people of those states did not see him as rightfully elected and as such, his laws were unjust. We all know what happened. If the people don't trust the election, they will not follow the laws of the elected leaders. They will morally see them as unjust and wrong...they will disobey. A good number of people are seeing it that way. The ballot box... The Jury box... The ammo box... I hope this nation heals soon. We must have integrity in the electoral process. We can't function without it. People won't trust the system without it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Wow. There is an undercurrent of disenfranchisement among large sectors of the public that many don't seem to comprehend. It goes beyond being pissed off. People believe their votes, their rights, and their money have been stolen from them dishonestly. They believe that they have no say in their own lives, that their leaders are dishonest and are not rightfully elected in some cases. It is similar to pre civil way...Lincoln did some dirty shit to get elected and was not even on the ballot in most southern states. Thus, the people of those states did not see him as rightfully elected and as such, his laws were unjust. We all know what happened. If the people don't trust the election, they will not follow the laws of the elected leaders. They will morally see them as unjust and wrong...they will disobey. A good number of people are seeing it that way. The ballot box... The Jury box... The ammo box... I hope this nation heals soon. We must have integrity in the electoral process. We can't function without it. People won't trust the system without it. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:48:49 PM EDT
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This is outstanding news. There is still some justice. Now if we can get the feds on trial for murder, that would really ice the cake.
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:51:07 PM EDT
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This is outstanding news. There is still some justice. Now if we can get the feds on trial for murder, that would really ice the cake. I am betting a lot of JBT's are pissed right now. Yes they are, just read the thread and the comment of the JBTs the wannabe JBTs and the JBT nuthuggers. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:51:28 PM EDT
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Can somebody explain if it was at all reasonable to attack and taze the defense attorney? WTF? Is this the new normal? Reasonable? Fuck, no. Taser is pretty high up on the force continuum, not far off from using a firearm, and not necessary since the guy wasn't a threat, nor was he being arrested for anything. The Marshalls rushed the attorney and dog piled him while the Judge was ordering them to stand down. Based on the facts given, they are guilty of: A) Contempt of Court. B) Assault with a deadly weapon. C) Excessive force. D) False imprisonment. E) Abuse of authority, or whatever they call it when you're a piece of shit breaking the law and hiding behind a badge. If this type of shit becomes the new "normal," there's going to be a second civil war. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:54:41 PM EDT
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Can you link to an article? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Somewhere, in there, should be inserted, 'The lawyer started hollering, and carrying on, and, wouldn't settle down and listen to the Judge'. From what I've read on it, any ways. Can you link to an article? http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/jury-acquits-leaders-oregon-standoff-federal-charges-43119277 The leaders of an armed group who seized a national wildlife refuge in rural Oregon were acquitted Thursday in the 41-day standoff that brought new attention to a long-running dispute over control of federal lands in the U.S. West. Tumult erupted in the courtroom after the verdicts were read when an attorney for group leader Ammon Bundy demanded his client be immediately released, repeatedly yelling at the judge. U.S. marshals tackled attorney Marcus Mumford to the ground, used a stun gun on him several times and arrested him. U.S. District Judge Anna Brown said she could not release Bundy because he still faces charges in Nevada stemming from an armed standoff at his father Cliven Bundy's ranch two years ago. Closest account I see now, earlier was reading that he would not settle down. <<shrug>> |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:55:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: too bad only LaVoy Finicum got what he deserved. click |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:56:27 PM EDT
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Lol, yea, everyone on arfcom is cheering for them now. Weren't ya'll calling them retards about 9 months ago. Yes, waaaay too many were. Something, something, I don't condone it, but I understand it was my thought back then, and now. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:56:34 PM EDT
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My bet is that the "informants" are the ones that spurred the whole thing on. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's is the only reason they didn't do a Waco or Ruby Ridge on those people. Too many LEO's in there and not enough trees to cover up the dirty deed..... So .gov spying on it's citizens? My bet is that the "informants" are the ones that spurred the whole thing on. This is not an unreasonable suspicion. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:56:37 PM EDT
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Reasonable? Fuck, no. Taser is pretty high up on the force continuum, not far off from using a firearm, and not necessary since the guy wasn't a threat, nor was he being arrested for anything. The Marshalls rushed the attorney and dog piled him while the Judge was ordering them to stand down. Based on the facts given, they are guilty of: A) Contempt of Court. B) Assault with a deadly weapon. C) Excessive force. D) False imprisonment. E) Abuse of authority, or whatever they call it when you're a piece of shit breaking the law and hiding behind a badge. If this type of shit becomes the new "normal," there's going to be a second civil war. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can somebody explain if it was at all reasonable to attack and taze the defense attorney? WTF? Is this the new normal? Reasonable? Fuck, no. Taser is pretty high up on the force continuum, not far off from using a firearm, and not necessary since the guy wasn't a threat, nor was he being arrested for anything. The Marshalls rushed the attorney and dog piled him while the Judge was ordering them to stand down. Based on the facts given, they are guilty of: A) Contempt of Court. B) Assault with a deadly weapon. C) Excessive force. D) False imprisonment. E) Abuse of authority, or whatever they call it when you're a piece of shit breaking the law and hiding behind a badge. If this type of shit becomes the new "normal," there's going to be a second civil war. If by "facts" you mean "stuff I just made up" then sure, why not. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 10:59:30 PM EDT
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No kidding. Its a sign of the apocalypse for me to agree (enthusiastically!) with him... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wow. There is an undercurrent of disenfranchisement among large sectors of the public that many don't seem to comprehend. It goes beyond being pissed off. People believe their votes, their rights, and their money have been stolen from them dishonestly. They believe that they have no say in their own lives, that their leaders are dishonest and are not rightfully elected in some cases. It is similar to pre civil way...Lincoln did some dirty shit to get elected and was not even on the ballot in most southern states. Thus, the people of those states did not see him as rightfully elected and as such, his laws were unjust. We all know what happened. If the people don't trust the election, they will not follow the laws of the elected leaders. They will morally see them as unjust and wrong...they will disobey. A good number of people are seeing it that way. The ballot box... The Jury box... The ammo box... I hope this nation heals soon. We must have integrity in the electoral process. We can't function without it. People won't trust the system without it. I'm weirded out by you posting this. No kidding. Its a sign of the apocalypse for me to agree (enthusiastically!) with him... It's probably a tarp. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 11:03:26 PM EDT
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Well that was not the result I expected . Guess they had a fair trial and won. Seems like the system worked this time.
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Posted: 10/27/2016 11:08:47 PM EDT
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Reasonable? Fuck, no. Taser is pretty high up on the force continuum, not far off from using a firearm, and not necessary since the guy wasn't a threat, nor was he being arrested for anything. The Marshalls rushed the attorney and dog piled him while the Judge was ordering them to stand down. Based on the facts given, they are guilty of: A) Contempt of Court. B) Assault with a deadly weapon. C) Excessive force. D) False imprisonment. E) Abuse of authority, or whatever they call it when you're a piece of shit breaking the law and hiding behind a badge. If this type of shit becomes the new "normal," there's going to be a second civil war. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can somebody explain if it was at all reasonable to attack and taze the defense attorney? WTF? Is this the new normal? Reasonable? Fuck, no. Taser is pretty high up on the force continuum, not far off from using a firearm, and not necessary since the guy wasn't a threat, nor was he being arrested for anything. The Marshalls rushed the attorney and dog piled him while the Judge was ordering them to stand down. Based on the facts given, they are guilty of: A) Contempt of Court. B) Assault with a deadly weapon. C) Excessive force. D) False imprisonment. E) Abuse of authority, or whatever they call it when you're a piece of shit breaking the law and hiding behind a badge. If this type of shit becomes the new "normal," there's going to be a second civil war. When they start throwing a tantrum and tasing guys simply to avoid doing their fuckin' job, it's a problem. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 11:12:06 PM EDT
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I'm going to start by looting the hell out of Cabela's 
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I thought the Feds killed one of the innocent protesters . Are we going to riot ? If so we need to start early I'm going to start by looting the hell out of Cabela's
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Posted: 10/27/2016 11:35:02 PM EDT
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I am honestly pretty surprised. DU is going nuts 
It's a shame Lavoy (sp) had to die, but he would be alive and a free man if he had done what everyone else in the car did. Not try to get into it with the FBI. In my observation, the man knew he was going to be killed and exited the vehicle to spare his passengers. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 11:35:30 PM EDT
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Reasonable? Fuck, no. Taser is pretty high up on the force continuum, not far off from using a firearm, and not necessary since the guy wasn't a threat, nor was he being arrested for anything. The Marshalls rushed the attorney and dog piled him while the Judge was ordering them to stand down. Based on the facts given, they are guilty of: A) Contempt of Court. B) Assault with a deadly weapon. C) Excessive force. D) False imprisonment. E) Abuse of authority, or whatever they call it when you're a piece of shit breaking the law and hiding behind a badge. If this type of shit becomes the new "normal," there's going to be a second civil war. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can somebody explain if it was at all reasonable to attack and taze the defense attorney? WTF? Is this the new normal? Reasonable? Fuck, no. Taser is pretty high up on the force continuum, not far off from using a firearm, and not necessary since the guy wasn't a threat, nor was he being arrested for anything. The Marshalls rushed the attorney and dog piled him while the Judge was ordering them to stand down. Based on the facts given, they are guilty of: A) Contempt of Court. B) Assault with a deadly weapon. C) Excessive force. D) False imprisonment. E) Abuse of authority, or whatever they call it when you're a piece of shit breaking the law and hiding behind a badge. If this type of shit becomes the new "normal," there's going to be a second civil war. Most use of force goes At least for the two departments I worked for and if it was available. Physical presence Verbal commands Taser Pepper spray Hands on Baton K-9 Presentation of deadly force Deadly force |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 11:42:40 PM EDT
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Yes, waaaay too many were. Something, something, I don't condone it, but I understand it was my thought back then, and now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol, yea, everyone on arfcom is cheering for them now. Weren't ya'll calling them retards about 9 months ago. Yes, waaaay too many were. Something, something, I don't condone it, but I understand it was my thought back then, and now. I stick by it. The whole ordeal was a stupid move. Bundy Ranch? Ok, I get where they're coming from. Defending your property and all that makes for great PR, and seeing people drawing down on the feds amused me. Malheur? The derp train had no brakes. Now that I know the .gov informants were between 30-50% of the group, I think that might've been intentional. I suspect they instigated and encouraged this stupid idea. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 11:44:55 PM EDT
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i suck at hotlinks
This is the lawyer speaking after he was released. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bj75IkYXJj0&feature=youtu.be |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 11:50:34 PM EDT
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Thin blue line getting thinner by the day.  lol |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 11:56:50 PM EDT
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Hehehe, a taser is not a deadly force item.
I want to see these guys go free if the court finds them innocent. The attorney sounds like he was out of line yelling at the judge. If he was repeatedly told to calm down and did not, it is called disorderly conduct and he may have deserved that tasing. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 11:56:52 PM EDT
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Good. Shame the one guy got killed. Finicum got what he wanted: a shootout with the cops. It just didn't turn out like he'd fantasized. Oh well. Poster noted He is another one for ignore and watch list. Aaand another LOL. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 11:58:33 PM EDT
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Somewhere, in there, should be inserted, 'The lawyer started hollering, and carrying on, and, wouldn't settle down and listen to the Judge'. From what I've read on it, any ways. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So let me get this straight about the courtroom incident. The lawyer asked the Judge to see documentation showing his client was still legally in the custody of the U.S. Marshals Service in a lawyer like fashion to be transported to another trial in NV. While this occurred USMS Deputies approached the lawyer and his client. The judge told the USMS Deputies to stop at some point (I would presume so the judge could explain something to the lawyer and client). The USMS Deputies took down the lawyer anyway and used a Taser to subdue him. No one was making a move to escape the courtroom or get crazy when this happened. Do I have this correct? If thats what really transpired, WTF? Somewhere, in there, should be inserted, 'The lawyer started hollering, and carrying on, and, wouldn't settle down and listen to the Judge'. From what I've read on it, any ways. I believe he was trying to get his now-acquitted clients to not have to go back to prison. |
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Posted: 10/27/2016 11:58:41 PM EDT
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Somewhere, in there, should be inserted, 'The lawyer started hollering, and carrying on, and, wouldn't settle down and listen to the Judge'. From what I've read on it, any ways. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So let me get this straight about the courtroom incident. The lawyer asked the Judge to see documentation showing his client was still legally in the custody of the U.S. Marshals Service in a lawyer like fashion to be transported to another trial in NV. While this occurred USMS Deputies approached the lawyer and his client. The judge told the USMS Deputies to stop at some point (I would presume so the judge could explain something to the lawyer and client). The USMS Deputies took down the lawyer anyway and used a Taser to subdue him. No one was making a move to escape the courtroom or get crazy when this happened. Do I have this correct? If thats what really transpired, WTF? Somewhere, in there, should be inserted, 'The lawyer started hollering, and carrying on, and, wouldn't settle down and listen to the Judge'. From what I've read on it, any ways. Facts are irrelevant, you'll cause confusion. |
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Posted: 10/28/2016 12:06:54 AM EDT
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Watch em get rearrested on state charges Good. Should be terrorism |
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Posted: 10/28/2016 12:23:55 AM EDT
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Watch em get rearrested on state charges Good. Should be terrorism Careful. You'll get added to "the list." |
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Posted: 10/28/2016 12:25:03 AM EDT
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There is an undercurrent of disenfranchisement among large sectors of the public that many don't seem to comprehend. It goes beyond being pissed off. People believe their votes, their rights, and their money have been stolen from them dishonestly. They believe that they have no say in their own lives, that their leaders are dishonest and are not rightfully elected in some cases. It is similar to pre civil way...Lincoln did some dirty shit to get elected and was not even on the ballot in most southern states. Thus, the people of those states did not see him as rightfully elected and as such, his laws were unjust. We all know what happened. If the people don't trust the election, they will not follow the laws of the elected leaders. They will morally see them as unjust and wrong...they will disobey. A good number of people are seeing it that way. The ballot box... The Jury box... The ammo box... I hope this nation heals soon. We must have integrity in the electoral process. We can't function without it. People won't trust the system without it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wow. There is an undercurrent of disenfranchisement among large sectors of the public that many don't seem to comprehend. It goes beyond being pissed off. People believe their votes, their rights, and their money have been stolen from them dishonestly. They believe that they have no say in their own lives, that their leaders are dishonest and are not rightfully elected in some cases. It is similar to pre civil way...Lincoln did some dirty shit to get elected and was not even on the ballot in most southern states. Thus, the people of those states did not see him as rightfully elected and as such, his laws were unjust. We all know what happened. If the people don't trust the election, they will not follow the laws of the elected leaders. They will morally see them as unjust and wrong...they will disobey. A good number of people are seeing it that way. The ballot box... The Jury box... The ammo box... I hope this nation heals soon. We must have integrity in the electoral process. We can't function without it. People won't trust the system without it. Have I been drinking? |
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Posted: 10/28/2016 12:25:32 AM EDT
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So let me get this straight about the courtroom incident. The lawyer asked the Judge to see documentation showing his client was still legally in the custody of the U.S. Marshals Service in a lawyer like fashion to be transported to another trial in NV. While this occurred USMS Deputies approached the lawyer and his client. The judge told the USMS Deputies to stop at some point (I would presume so the judge could explain something to the lawyer and client). The USMS Deputies took down the lawyer anyway and used a Taser to subdue him. No one was making a move to escape the courtroom or get crazy when this happened. Do I have this correct? If thats what really transpired, WTF? Somewhere, in there, should be inserted, 'The lawyer started hollering, and carrying on, and, wouldn't settle down and listen to the Judge'. From what I've read on it, any ways. Did he possibly go full sovereign citizen? I seem to recall that one of their lawyers was such a beast. |
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Posted: 10/28/2016 12:38:14 AM EDT
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Wow. There is an undercurrent of disenfranchisement among large sectors of the public that many don't seem to comprehend. It goes beyond being pissed off. People believe their votes, their rights, and their money have been stolen from them dishonestly. They believe that they have no say in their own lives, that their leaders are dishonest and are not rightfully elected in some cases. It is similar to pre civil way...Lincoln did some dirty shit to get elected and was not even on the ballot in most southern states. Thus, the people of those states did not see him as rightfully elected and as such, his laws were unjust. We all know what happened. If the people don't trust the election, they will not follow the laws of the elected leaders. They will morally see them as unjust and wrong...they will disobey. A good number of people are seeing it that way. The ballot box... The Jury box... The ammo box... I hope this nation heals soon. We must have integrity in the electoral process. We can't function without it. People won't trust the system without it. Have I been drinking? No. People are pissed. All bets are off If this election looks like it had been rigged after all is said and done. I wish it weren't so. |
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Posted: 10/28/2016 12:42:40 AM EDT
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Wow. There is an undercurrent of disenfranchisement among large sectors of the public that many don't seem to comprehend. It goes beyond being pissed off. People believe their votes, their rights, and their money have been stolen from them dishonestly. They believe that they have no say in their own lives, that their leaders are dishonest and are not rightfully elected in some cases. It is similar to pre civil way...Lincoln did some dirty shit to get elected and was not even on the ballot in most southern states. Thus, the people of those states did not see him as rightfully elected and as such, his laws were unjust. We all know what happened. If the people don't trust the election, they will not follow the laws of the elected leaders. They will morally see them as unjust and wrong...they will disobey. A good number of people are seeing it that way. The ballot box... The Jury box... The ammo box... I hope this nation heals soon. We must have integrity in the electoral process. We can't function without it. People won't trust the system without it. Have I been drinking? No. People are pissed. All bets are off If this election looks like it had been rigged after all is said and done. I wish it weren't so. At this point, I don't think anyone figures the election won't be rigged. They're just hoping Trump supporters are numerous enough to overwhelm the fraud margin. |
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Posted: 10/28/2016 12:51:47 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/28/2016 1:05:51 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/28/2016 1:20:52 AM EDT
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Thankful for a good outcome, doubt that it's over though, too much gov. butthurt.
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