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Link Posted: 10/27/2016 8:34:58 PM EDT
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  Shouldn't matter if there is no rush to impose tyrannical bullshit on the populous. Had they not been intent on violating his rights...there wouldn't have been an opportunity for the situation to go sideways.
 
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I agree, once again the Feds violated a mans civil rights and he ended up dead for it and no one will be held accountable..funny the Goverment expects the average citizen to know and obey every law on the books..yet the enforcers don't have to at the gov's discretion...
Link Posted: 10/27/2016 8:35:02 PM EDT
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The comments section reminds you.
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There is an undercurrent of disenfranchisement among large sectors of the public that many don't seem to comprehend.  

It goes beyond being pissed off.  

People believe their votes, their rights, and their money have been stolen from them dishonestly.  They believe that they have no say in their own lives, that their leaders are dishonest and are not rightfully elected in some cases.

It is similar to pre civil way...Lincoln did some dirty shit to get elected and was not even on the ballot in most southern states.  Thus, the people of those states did not see him as rightfully elected and as such, his laws were unjust.  

We all know what happened.  

If the people don't trust the election, they will not follow the laws of the elected leaders.  They will morally see them as unjust and wrong...they will disobey.  

A good number of people are seeing it that way.  

The ballot box...

The Jury box...

The ammo box...

I hope this nation heals soon.  We must have integrity in the electoral process.  We can't function without it.  People won't trust the system without it.
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Did you leave your account logged in at the library or something?
Link Posted: 10/27/2016 8:35:43 PM EDT
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yup.
Link Posted: 10/27/2016 8:35:44 PM EDT
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Commentors from that link seem less than happy about the otucome.
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You and me both...but he's correct.
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There is an undercurrent of disenfranchisement among large sectors of the public that many don't seem to comprehend.  



It goes beyond being pissed off.  



People believe their votes, their rights, and their money have been stolen from them dishonestly.  They believe that they have no say in their own lives, that their leaders are dishonest and are not rightfully elected in some cases.



It is similar to pre civil way...Lincoln did some dirty shit to get elected and was not even on the ballot in most southern states.  Thus, the people of those states did not see him as rightfully elected and as such, his laws were unjust.  



We all know what happened.  



If the people don't trust the election, they will not follow the laws of the elected leaders.  They will morally see them as unjust and wrong...they will disobey.  



A good number of people are seeing it that way.  



The ballot box...



The Jury box...



The ammo box...



I hope this nation heals soon.  We must have integrity in the electoral process.  We can't function without it.  People won't trust the system without it.


  I'm weirded out by you posting this.





You and me both...but he's correct.




 
Unfortunately so.
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Itty bitty glimmer of justice



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Fuck no, I'm allergic to dogs
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how's they fuck that up?
did you kick your dog when you heard this news?

 
Fuck no, I'm allergic to dogs




 
This explains so much.
Link Posted: 10/27/2016 8:37:29 PM EDT
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It doesn't look like an endorsement towards either side. It's an intelligent assessment of what is going on.
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Wow.

There is an undercurrent of disenfranchisement among large sectors of the public that many don't seem to comprehend.  

It goes beyond being pissed off.  

People believe their votes, their rights, and their money have been stolen from them dishonestly.  They believe that they have no say in their own lives, that their leaders are dishonest and are not rightfully elected in some cases.

It is similar to pre civil way...Lincoln did some dirty shit to get elected and was not even on the ballot in most southern states.  Thus, the people of those states did not see him as rightfully elected and as such, his laws were unjust.  

We all know what happened.  

If the people don't trust the election, they will not follow the laws of the elected leaders.  They will morally see them as unjust and wrong...they will disobey.  

A good number of people are seeing it that way.  

The ballot box...

The Jury box...

The ammo box...

I hope this nation heals soon.  We must have integrity in the electoral process.  We can't function without it.  People won't trust the system without it.

What have you done with the real FedDC?

It doesn't look like an endorsement towards either side. It's an intelligent assessment of what is going on.

Link Posted: 10/27/2016 8:37:43 PM EDT
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did you kick your dog when you heard this news?
 
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how's they fuck that up?
did you kick your dog when you heard this news?
 

He murdered a captive Ewok and ate it's heart with a side of organic and sustainably sourced puppy dog tears.
Link Posted: 10/27/2016 8:37:58 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/27/2016 8:38:36 PM EDT
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These folks have not beat the system yet... They still have a bunch of charges pending in Nevada...
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too bad only LaVoy Finicum got what he deserved.
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How long have you been with the BATF?
Link Posted: 10/27/2016 8:39:15 PM EDT
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How many millions of US tax payers cash did the Obama DOJ blow on this case?
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No reasonable prosecutor would have ever brought this to trial.  
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too bad only LaVoy Finicum got what he deserved.
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Took 3 pages...



 
Link Posted: 10/27/2016 8:40:39 PM EDT
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Jesus Christ my wife will be pissed that she has to pick up the kids from daycare because I'll be busy breaking FedDC out of some sovereign citizen jail
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omg
Link Posted: 10/27/2016 8:40:54 PM EDT
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The comments section reminds you.
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Imagine that.


The comments section reminds you.



They mad.
Link Posted: 10/27/2016 8:41:33 PM EDT
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Well now.
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Watch em get rearrested on state charges
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Well, there's still a trial waiting for them in Nevada...
Link Posted: 10/27/2016 8:43:00 PM EDT
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  Unfortunately so.
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People are beginning to comprehend that the rule of law is applied selectively, and that perhaps there is nothing immoral or unethical with breaking laws that are mala prohibita. Maybe he's come to this same conclusion. In either case, I'm happy to see his viewpoint.
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Jesus Christ my wife will be pissed that she has to pick up the kids from daycare because I'll be busy breaking FedDC out of some sovereign citizen jail
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Buy her a new car.

Give her a stone.
Link Posted: 10/27/2016 8:44:00 PM EDT
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Ammon Bundy and six-co-defendants are charged with conspiring to impede
federal employees at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge through
intimidation, threat or force stemming from the 41-day occupation of the
Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. Four of the seven defendants are
charged with possessing guns in a federal facility.
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defendants each face an additional charge of theft of government
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Link Posted: 10/27/2016 8:44:40 PM EDT
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Honestly I think this is hilarious. Most of these guys were harmless and annoying retards.
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Yep.

Except it went sideways when the guy got shot.

And... they were mostly LDS and quoting LDS scripture for justification, while the LDS Church was saying they had left the reservation.

Because of that, I have followed them pretty closely.

They are --for the most part-- harmless idiots who have left the reservation... It would all be a funny joke excepting the guns getting pointed --on both sides--, the guy getting shot, and their trying to justify their position based on (their perceived) LDS moral primacy...
Link Posted: 10/27/2016 8:44:50 PM EDT
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He had several shots fired at him with his hands in the air.  That ain't no Michael Brown shit.  There is video evidence.
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Good.



Shame the one guy got killed.




Yep, would be nice if there was at least some accountability on the .gov side.  




He'd be alive if he didn't go for the gun in his pocket I bet.






He had several shots fired at him with his hands in the air.  That ain't no Michael Brown shit.  There is video evidence.
 Yeah, it is.  It's even dumber, but that's par for the course with sovereign citizens and the folks who somehow haven't figured out that's what the Bundys are at this point.  He fled a traffic stop, rammed a roadblock, and jumped out of the vehicle while reaching for a gun, shouting "Go ahead and shoot me!"  That's what the video shows.  



He was a nutjob who made his living scamming the government, and should have gotten a Darwin Award nomination for the way he died.  It's like he did it on purpose.

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Yeah, there are more charges waiting in the pipeline...
Link Posted: 10/27/2016 8:46:43 PM EDT
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I wonder what became of the 3 or 5 FBI agents that fired 2 rounds as Finicum was getting out of the vehicle, lied about it,removed, and then replaced the projectile in the truck?  There was an investigation opened.
Link Posted: 10/27/2016 8:46:53 PM EDT
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A bit surprising.
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Honestly I think this is hilarious. Most of these guys were harmless and annoying retards. I look forward to more militia fun
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did you kick your dog when you heard this news?
 

He murdered a captive Ewok and ate it's heart with a side of organic and sustainably sourced puppy dog ears.
Honestly I think this is hilarious. Most of these guys were harmless and annoying retards. I look forward to more militia fun



Do you want another BLM type militant oganization?

Because this is how get another BLM type militant organization.
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Fuck no, I'm allergic to dogs
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Fuck no, I'm allergic to dogs

Link Posted: 10/27/2016 8:49:03 PM EDT
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Regardless which side of the badge you stand on..
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Yep, would be nice if there was at least some accountability on the .gov side.  


He'd be alive if he didn't go for the gun in his pocket I bet.

  You don't think him having his civil rights violated under color of law might have been a factor in his decision to defend himself?


I'm absolutely certain he felt that way.
If you choose to go that way, understand the other guy doesn't want to die either.
I'll note that a Jury just acquitted the other occupiers, setting them up to use the legal system to sue the Fed over civil rights violations.

If you choose to go outside the legal system, be prepared to accept the results.

Regardless which side of the badge you stand on..


I agree.
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Yeah, it is.  It's even dumber, but that's par for the course with sovereign citizens and the folks who somehow haven't figured out that's what the Bundys are at this point.  He fled a traffic stop, rammed a roadblock, and jumped out of the vehicle while reaching for a gun, shouting "Go ahead and shoot me!"  That's what the video shows.  

He was a nutjob who made his living scamming the government, and should have gotten a Darwin Award nomination for the way he died.  It's like he did it on purpose.
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He was a nutjob.

He did everything you said.

His religion (my religion) *officially* told him to submit to authorities. He was farther off the reservation than Glenn Beck.

He did *everything* wrong that day.
Link Posted: 10/27/2016 8:49:12 PM EDT
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So if Ammon Bundy wasn't in custody for the Nevada charges before this went down, is it normal for the judge to keep him in custody to face those charges?  He must have bailed out or something because he was free when this whole thing went down.  Is the judge just doing a power play to keep him in custody?
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Those were the same investigators that Clinton got.
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They mad.
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Imagine that.


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They mad.


A lot of idiotic liberals on that forum.

They are oddly silent on all of hilldogs corruption stories, but really come out of the woodwork when these type es of stories break.
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excellent!
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I wonder what became of the 3 or 5 FBI agents that fired 2 rounds as Finicum was getting out of the vehicle, lied about it,removed, and then replaced the projectile in the truck?  There was an investigation opened.
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What do you think?  It is the FBI after all.  That doesn't have the same ring it did 20 years ago, the top dogs are crooks now.



 
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So if Ammon Bundy wasn't in custody for the Nevada charges before this went down, is it normal for the judge to keep him in custody to face those charges?  He must have bailed out or something because he was free when this whole thing went down.  Is the judge just doing a power play to keep him in custody?
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No one was charged for crimes in Nevada until after the Oregon deal.
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Posting outstanding!!

Link Posted: 10/27/2016 8:54:09 PM EDT
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Thin blue line getting thinner by the day.



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I know, I have seen you post before, and I back great cops 100%...My only issue is a corrupt gov and any of its minions who violate the people's trust and the Constitution...
Link Posted: 10/27/2016 8:56:16 PM EDT
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Interesting.

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What are they charged with in NV?

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That entire incident became a twisted offshoot of the Bundy ranch stand-off in Nevada and it was handled poorly from start to finish.  When you have federal agencies attempting to "police" the people running around like some of these ABC agencies do you realize after many years of repeated failures that law enforcement needs to be handled by the local authorities.  




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Of topic but holy shit @ your EE feedback
Link Posted: 10/27/2016 9:00:12 PM EDT
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Well, if the law isn't going to be enforced equally, I'll take it being unenforced equally as a win.
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I need to read the full story but...  to borrow a phrase from TV detective shows, they got off on a technicality?

If so, then fine.  You still don't barge in and occupy some place that isn't yours.  Not a whole lot different from BLM protesters taking over a public university building.




Well, if the law isn't going to be enforced equally, I'll take it being unenforced equally as a win.




Ummm...  no thank you.  


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