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Posted: 10/21/2016 2:46:34 PM EDT
With the internet hacks today on the DNS,  doesn't it kind of scare you a bit. Parts of the internet were unavailable today that's some scary shit. Could they physically shut parts of this country down or shut this whole country down and all the technology because of stuff like this, is just about everything is online and connected to the internet some shape or form.

So what can one do to prep for something of that nature, where they shut down a lot of electronics gadgets, stores, internet.  What can one do to prep to prepare for something like that if it ever happened long-term?
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 2:48:13 PM EDT
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Soooo, what round for an internet hacker?


Link Posted: 10/21/2016 2:49:43 PM EDT
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You mean the DDOS attacks?  


No you can't just shut America down like that.   US has so much bandwidth that it would be unimaginable computing power to suck that all dry.



Affect areas of service, absolutely.



What can we do about it?  Start severing our internet and limiting international routes.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 2:50:54 PM EDT
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Stop relying so much on tech to run your life.

A.W.D.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 2:51:09 PM EDT
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I would be Y2K all over again.  
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 2:51:19 PM EDT
[#5]
Fire Sale!


It really is no big deal.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 2:51:26 PM EDT
[#6]
Go outside
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 2:51:37 PM EDT
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     Store a few GB of porn on a usb stick.



Link Posted: 10/21/2016 2:53:31 PM EDT
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this.. and i work in IT..
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 2:56:14 PM EDT
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I'm an IT guy and I agree with this %100. I literally sit in front of a computer all fucking day at work.

It would give us all a reason to get away from the keyboard and actually....you know...go outside!
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 2:56:16 PM EDT
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Can't we just black hole all of americas traffic till the attack subsides?
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 3:02:15 PM EDT
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which will solve nothing for these types of DDOS attacks.



ar-jedi

Link Posted: 10/21/2016 3:03:36 PM EDT
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only way to be sure
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 3:06:55 PM EDT
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QFT



 
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 3:09:48 PM EDT
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Print  your  porn out
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 3:10:37 PM EDT
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With the internet hacks today on the DNS,  doesn't it kind of scare you a bit. Parts of the internet were unavailable today that's some scary shit. Could they physically shut parts of this country down or shut this whole country down and all the technology because of stuff like this, is just about everything is online and connected to the internet some shape or form.

So what can one do to prep for something of that nature, where they shut down a lot of electronics gadgets, stores, internet.  What can one do to prep to prepare for something like that if it ever happened long-term?
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This has happened many times before btw.

If you use openDNS you will have zero problems :)

It's just some script kids who think they're tough and want to shut down a node of the internet.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 3:14:48 PM EDT
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The firewall just got five petabytes higher.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 3:16:35 PM EDT
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What can be done? Other than physically severing fiber links to Russia & China (which is not a bad idea at all IMO)?

Make sure all your internet connected devices have up-to-date firmware. Dispose of any device that is known to have unpatched vulnerabilities.

First of all if you're still running XP you're part of the problem. Second of all, if you're still running some broadband router from 2006 odds are it has been completely abandoned by the manufacturer and has unpatched vulnerabilities in it. I've seen plenty of old routers that have been cracked and are running open proxies or VPN exits. Even some relatively modern products like consumer grade NAS devices have been cracked.

I think it was Christmas 2014 when Lizard Squad took down the Xbox Live and Playstation Networks using mostly compromised broadband routers. It's not just PCs these days that are botnet fodder.

Of course consumers themselves only have so much control. Hard to keep your equipment patched when the manufacturer doesn't make patches. And many ISPs are using custom firmwares that they don't bother keeping up to date even when the OEM does.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 3:19:14 PM EDT
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Cash on hand.
AMmo on hand.
Food and water purification on hand.

Link Posted: 10/21/2016 3:27:37 PM EDT
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That old dusty vcr and box of porn tapes in the basement comes in handy yet again
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 3:28:30 PM EDT
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Lets see, three 4x4 vehicles, One is  a 2015 subby, one 1969 Bronco and one 2004 F-550 with a crane and hydraulic leveling jacks with a full Banks Turbo kit and a Gear Vendors over drive.





Whole house NG generator, lots of fuel in NATO cans with lots of boolits and guns that eat them.





Plenty of food and my own water well.





Yeah I don't think some entity crashing my internet will do much more than piss me off for missing page two ownership posts on ARFCOM.

 
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 3:29:02 PM EDT
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It's no big deal for me. There's only one internet privider here and our, "high speed," internet provider sucks so bad I'm used to being without internet service.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 3:29:58 PM EDT
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no.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1921539_Twitter_is_down_____Its_Happening_____Mass_DDOS_Attack_Update_Pg_2.html&page=7#i62605806

ar-jedi
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 3:33:44 PM EDT
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You need to go all "Enemy of the State" and go off the grid.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 3:36:57 PM EDT
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have cash on hand

logistics could be hurt very bigly
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 3:39:35 PM EDT
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It's just some script kids who think they're tough and want to shut down a node of the internet.


Dunno about this particular attack, but some people think state actors have been mapping out how to take down the DNS root servers.

https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/09/someone_is_lear.html


Over the past year or two, someone has been probing the defenses of the companies that run critical pieces of the Internet. These probes take the form of precisely calibrated attacks designed to determine exactly how well these companies can defend themselves, and what would be required to take them down. We don't know who is doing this, but it feels like a large nation state. China or Russia would be my first guesses.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 3:50:23 PM EDT
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One more, cash on hand.  If the internet goes down, you can not use your credit or debit card.  Imagine driving back on I-95 or I-75 from FL and you are on reserve.  Pull in to the gas station and you can not use the card, no gas and can't get a motel for the night either.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 3:53:18 PM EDT
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My clients on opendns were not affected by this
Clients on Comcast and Google DNS servers were, until I switched them over to opendns at 845am
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 3:57:02 PM EDT
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There once was a thread where things like this were discussed.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 4:33:24 PM EDT
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Hackers might be able to break a few things for a few hours.

We have plenty of smart guys on our end that are on call to jump in and unfuck stuff when they do.

The internet is redundant on top of redundant on top of redundant. I won't say it is impossible to break the whole thing at once, but it would be a 1:TRILLION chance.

This should be item 999,999 on your list of things to lose sleep over.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 4:36:45 PM EDT
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Rejoice and maybe live life?
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 4:38:47 PM EDT
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yeah, but that big yellow thing up there
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 4:39:49 PM EDT
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WTF is "outside?"
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 4:42:00 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/21/2016 4:42:45 PM EDT
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With the internet hacks today on the DNS,  doesn't it kind of scare you a bit. Parts of the internet were unavailable today that's some scary shit. Could they physically shut parts of this country down or shut this whole country down and all the technology because of stuff like this, is just about everything is online and connected to the internet some shape or form.

So what can one do to prep for something of that nature, where they shut down a lot of electronics gadgets, stores, internet.  What can one do to prep to prepare for something like that if it ever happened long-term?
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Flipping the proverbial switch is something that isn't terribly hard to do.

Be prepared to run your life without your phone and laptop.

I have HAM radios and compasses. What else do you need?
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 4:46:07 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/21/2016 4:46:38 PM EDT
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With the internet hacks today on the DNS,  doesn't it kind of scare you a bit. Parts of the internet were unavailable today that's some scary shit. Could they physically shut parts of this country down or shut this whole country down and all the technology because of stuff like this, is just about everything is online and connected to the internet some shape or form.

So what can one do to prep for something of that nature, where they shut down a lot of electronics gadgets, stores, internet.  What can one do to prep to prepare for something like that if it ever happened long-term?
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LP and I could find things to do to keep us occupied with no internet

As far as any other issues that may pop up, like banking being down and what not, you should already be prepared for those eventualities and have at a basic bare minimum 6 weeks of food and water and shelter and weapons/ammo for defense. That of course, as I said, is bare minimum to ride any major issues out.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 4:47:22 PM EDT
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Get your own geek, set him up in the basement and make sure he's got plenty of Redbull, Doritos, and porn.  Not necessarily in that order.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 4:48:16 PM EDT
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Flipping the proverbial switch is something that isn't terribly hard to do.

Be prepared to run your life without your phone and laptop.

I have HAM radios and compasses. What else do you need?
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With the internet hacks today on the DNS,  doesn't it kind of scare you a bit. Parts of the internet were unavailable today that's some scary shit. Could they physically shut parts of this country down or shut this whole country down and all the technology because of stuff like this, is just about everything is online and connected to the internet some shape or form.

So what can one do to prep for something of that nature, where they shut down a lot of electronics gadgets, stores, internet.  What can one do to prep to prepare for something like that if it ever happened long-term?


Flipping the proverbial switch is something that isn't terribly hard to do.

Be prepared to run your life without your phone and laptop.

I have HAM radios and compasses. What else do you need?



You do not have to run your life without those things. (yes, internet and actual phone service would be down) but with a decent solar system you would still have access to their apps/programs with a proper solar system.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 4:48:29 PM EDT
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LOL exactly. Other than me not being able work, telecommute, I don't see the problem if the internet goes down.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 4:55:48 PM EDT
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Invent a new distributed DNS protocol that would eliminate reliance on a single set of dns providers. Or got to hosts files which is my favorite answer for all IT organizations large and small... *snickers*

v
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 4:59:49 PM EDT
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You do not have to run your life without those things. (yes, internet and actual phone service would be down) but with a decent solar system you would still have access to their apps/programs with a proper solar system.
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With the internet hacks today on the DNS,  doesn't it kind of scare you a bit. Parts of the internet were unavailable today that's some scary shit. Could they physically shut parts of this country down or shut this whole country down and all the technology because of stuff like this, is just about everything is online and connected to the internet some shape or form.

So what can one do to prep for something of that nature, where they shut down a lot of electronics gadgets, stores, internet.  What can one do to prep to prepare for something like that if it ever happened long-term?


Flipping the proverbial switch is something that isn't terribly hard to do.

Be prepared to run your life without your phone and laptop.

I have HAM radios and compasses. What else do you need?



You do not have to run your life without those things. (yes, internet and actual phone service would be down) but with a decent solar system you would still have access to their apps/programs with a proper solar system.


Fair enough. I just don't need them for things other than comms, news and travel really.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 5:03:28 PM EDT
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With the internet hacks today on the DNS,  doesn't it kind of scare you a bit. Parts of the internet were unavailable today that's some scary shit. Could they physically shut parts of this country down or shut this whole country down and all the technology because of stuff like this, is just about everything is online and connected to the internet some shape or form.

So what can one do to prep for something of that nature, where they shut down a lot of electronics gadgets, stores, internet.  What can one do to prep to prepare for something like that if it ever happened long-term?
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The "Internet" can be affected but "intranets" were not.  
I wasn't affected by it.
There are still some stores here that can make cash transactions on their registers, mini-marts and 7-Elevens.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 5:05:03 PM EDT
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I mowed three acres and trimmed some trees while this was going on.



Didn't notice a thing.






Link Posted: 10/21/2016 5:06:41 PM EDT
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You should probably add a couple copies of mid-90s vintage Swank magazine to that list.  I can probably drop back to analog porn, but I don't think pure imagination will cut it any more.  I'm sorry Willy Wonka...
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 5:07:39 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/21/2016 5:09:27 PM EDT
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hosts.txt

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Won't work
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 5:11:13 PM EDT
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Virtually impossible in today's business world.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 5:18:01 PM EDT
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64bit round.
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