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Posted: 10/20/2016 8:27:02 AM EDT

A Nuclear Weapon? Did FHRC reveal CLASSIFIED INFO AGAIN??????

That fucking Bitch is dangerous ...Big League

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Pentagon Officials Furious After Clinton Announces US Response Time for Nuclear Launch During Debate http://libertynews.com/?p=92862 via @liberty

Posted: 10/20/2016 8:30:48 AM EDT

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She didn't intend to break the law.

Posted: 10/20/2016 8:32:08 AM EDT

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She's fucking retarded. Even if Trump were the trigger happy nuke launcher that they are painting him as he wouldn't be able to do shit if the country opposed the actions. They act like there is a big red button on the oval office desk to scare the idiots into believing Trump will cause nuclear war.

Posted: 10/20/2016 8:32:41 AM EDT

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Well, it's in a suitcase.

Posted: 10/20/2016 8:34:01 AM EDT

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A Nuclear Weapon? Did FHRC reveal CLASSIFIED INFO AGAIN??????

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Bigley!

Posted: 10/20/2016 9:35:47 AM EDT

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Posted: 10/20/2016 9:41:02 AM EDT

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Posted: 10/20/2016 9:49:11 AM EDT

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Does this have something to do with the Madonna offer?

Posted: 10/20/2016 9:52:23 AM EDT

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She's fucking retarded. Even if Trump were the trigger happy nuke launcher that they are painting him as he wouldn't be able to do shit if the country opposed the actions. They act like there is a big red button on the oval office desk to scare the idiots into believing Trump will cause nuclear war.

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Plus the two man rule.

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Posted: 10/20/2016 9:53:13 AM EDT

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Most transparent administration EVER.

Posted: 10/20/2016 9:53:56 AM EDT

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ZOMG!

FHRC

Posted: 10/20/2016 9:55:51 AM EDT

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Iron Maiden did it better.

Posted: 10/20/2016 9:56:16 AM EDT

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Madonna is a typical Democrat, making promises she has no intention of keeping.

Posted: 10/20/2016 9:59:42 AM EDT

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Ok, can someone explain why this is a big deal? I mean, from a strategic standpoint how is this compromising information? Wouldn't it be safe to assume we have a very tight window between the call and the response? Four minutes could be a very short time or a very long time, I honestly don't know which is which in this scenario.

Posted: 10/20/2016 10:04:46 AM EDT

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It's a jail able offence

Posted: 10/20/2016 10:06:12 AM EDT

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3 minutes and 42 seconds have already passed. Even if she finished in the restroom it would still take 20 seconds to run back to the war room.

Posted: 10/20/2016 10:06:18 AM EDT

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Not if you're Hilary Clinton.

Posted: 10/20/2016 10:06:33 AM EDT

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Plus the two man rule.

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She's fucking retarded. Even if Trump were the trigger happy nuke launcher that they are painting him as he wouldn't be able to do shit if the country opposed the actions. They act like there is a big red button on the oval office desk to scare the idiots into believing Trump will cause nuclear war.

Plus the two man rule.

Kharn

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NCA = POTUS and SECDEF

SECDEF, which the POTUS chooses must concur... and if s/he doesn't concur, he is FIRED and replaced on the spot with someone more agreeable.

Posted: 10/20/2016 10:09:36 AM EDT

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Hillary riling up old Ivan because she needs an excuse for her corruption is by far more concerning than Trump with the football.

Posted: 10/20/2016 10:17:14 AM EDT

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Ok, can someone explain why this is a big deal? I mean, from a strategic standpoint how is this compromising information? Wouldn't it be safe to assume we have a very tight window between the call and the response? Four minutes could be a very short time or a very long time, I honestly don't know which is which in this scenario.

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4 minutes seems pretty reasonable for the president and SECDEF to agree to launch, confirm codes, and call the necessary people who turn the keys.

I would say it's pretty damming info. If I was going to strike an enemy I would love to know how long it was going to take them to respond to my actions.

Posted: 10/20/2016 10:25:19 AM EDT

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She's fucking retarded. Even if Trump were the trigger happy nuke launcher that they are painting him as he wouldn't be able to do shit if the country opposed the actions. They act like there is a big red button on the oval office desk to scare the idiots into believing Trump will cause nuclear war.

Well, it's in a suitcase.

The football is a symbol of the evil Patriarchy.

We need more touchy feely. 4 minutes isn't long enough. There's gonna be changes.

Posted: 10/20/2016 10:26:57 AM EDT

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With the country's secrets.

Trump should have nailed her about her unsecured private server when she started the Russain bullshit.

Posted: 10/20/2016 10:27:01 AM EDT

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http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1921129_4_minutes.html

Posted: 10/20/2016 10:28:21 AM EDT

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Madonna is a typical Democrat, making promises she has no intention of keeping.

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Does this have something to do with the Madonna offer?

Madonna is a typical Democrat, making promises she has no intention of keeping.

Locks in the White Knight Beta-cuck vote. I'm going to tweet she owes me a BJ.

Posted: 10/20/2016 10:29:11 AM EDT

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Ok, can someone explain why this is a big deal? I mean, from a strategic standpoint how is this compromising information? Wouldn't it be safe to assume we have a very tight window between the call and the response? Four minutes could be a very short time or a very long time, I honestly don't know which is which in this scenario.

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It used to be a state secret.

Posted: 10/20/2016 10:29:55 AM EDT

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If it is really <4 minutes, that is good... means we are faster than a Ruski DT SLBM decapitation attempt... so that is stabilizing.

Posted: 10/20/2016 10:30:01 AM EDT

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3 minutes and 42 seconds have already passed. Even if she finished in the restroom it would still take 20 seconds to run back to the war room.

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What's the average time for a petit mal seizure?

Posted: 10/20/2016 10:36:09 AM EDT

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NCA = POTUS and SECDEF

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She's fucking retarded. Even if Trump were the trigger happy nuke launcher that they are painting him as he wouldn't be able to do shit if the country opposed the actions. They act like there is a big red button on the oval office desk to scare the idiots into believing Trump will cause nuclear war.

Plus the two man rule.

Kharn

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NCA = POTUS and SECDEF

SECDEF, which the POTUS chooses must concur... and if s/he doesn't concur, he is FIRED and replaced on the spot with someone more agreeable.

The SecDef is replaced by the Deputy SecDef, with further replacements specified in order and having been confirmed by the Senate, not just any yahoo will do.

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Posted: 10/20/2016 10:37:09 AM EDT

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The football is a symbol of the evil Patriarchy.

We need more touchy feely. 4 minutes isn't long enough. There's gonna be changes.

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She's fucking retarded. Even if Trump were the trigger happy nuke launcher that they are painting him as he wouldn't be able to do shit if the country opposed the actions. They act like there is a big red button on the oval office desk to scare the idiots into believing Trump will cause nuclear war.

Well, it's in a suitcase.

The football is a symbol of the evil Patriarchy.

We need more touchy feely. 4 minutes isn't long enough. There's gonna be changes.

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STOP INTERRUPTING ME

Posted: 10/20/2016 10:39:12 AM EDT

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Trump needs to hammer this security breach! She is not fit to serve as POTUS! She can't even protect her own personal secrets!

Posted: 10/20/2016 10:43:04 AM EDT

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Posted: 10/20/2016 10:43:11 AM EDT

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4 minutes seems pretty reasonable for the president and SECDEF to agree to launch, confirm codes, and call the necessary people who turn the keys.

I would say it's pretty damming info. If I was going to strike an enemy I would love to know how long it was going to take them to respond to my actions.

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Ok, can someone explain why this is a big deal? I mean, from a strategic standpoint how is this compromising information? Wouldn't it be safe to assume we have a very tight window between the call and the response? Four minutes could be a very short time or a very long time, I honestly don't know which is which in this scenario.

4 minutes seems pretty reasonable for the president and SECDEF to agree to launch, confirm codes, and call the necessary people who turn the keys.

I would say it's pretty damming info. If I was going to strike an enemy I would love to know how long it was going to take them to respond to my actions.

This right here. We're already behind the power curve if we're reacting to something and that stated length of time turns into a planning factor that any hostile actor has to work around.
Scenario:
- I want to first strike the US or ally with some sort of WMD
- I can assume with my posturing the President is now in the National Airborne Operations Center and thinking about making me pay for it
- Do I have a few hours to fire my assets off, do a battle damage assessment and retarget, get to shelter, attempt some sort of hostile action against the NAOC (jamming, weapons fire, capture) or do I just need to go all out from the start because I'm now looking at a hard counter to my actions within minute

Why would you want somebody you're going to hit to know that? That's some Wile E. Coyote stand on the X type bs.

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And that was a really easy knock down for him that he passed over, maybe not knowing that's controlled information. That'd have been great if he'd gotten her with a "And let me stop you right there, it's that kind of cavalier handling of classified information, which you are currently being investigated for, that makes you unfit to be President".

Posted: 10/20/2016 10:43:38 AM EDT

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Ok, can someone explain why this is a big deal? I mean, from a strategic standpoint how is this compromising information? Wouldn't it be safe to assume we have a very tight window between the call and the response? Four minutes could be a very short time or a very long time, I honestly don't know which is which in this scenario.

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Well, if that information was still classified as of last night, that would be a big deal.

This wouldn't have been some generalized textbook formula that was accidentally labeled (TS) in a briefing. Even in really twisted cases like that, people read-in still abide by the absurdity until it gets corrected. This was something so specific, that if it were classified, she royally screwed up.

We know she didn't to the TS compartmentalized briefing. She even claimed that (C) was some alphabetical listing in official statements. At every junction in the summary of her mishandling of classified information, the choose-your-own-adventure turns to the Page 47: You just lost your clearance, and earned administrative sanctions.

And, now we have this.

Great.

Posted: 10/20/2016 10:44:27 AM EDT

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Not classified. This was on 60 Minutes like a month ago.

Posted: 10/20/2016 10:47:22 AM EDT

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The 4 minute warning has been known for decades.......even made it to MTV before some of you were old enough to whine about this red herring. Americans are truly ignorant and overly reactive people.

4 Minute Warning

Posted: 10/20/2016 10:48:09 AM EDT

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Just because something os on "60 minutes" doesn't mean it is not classified.

Posted: 10/20/2016 10:50:07 AM EDT

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Not classified. This was on 60 Minutes like a month ago.

Just because something os on "60 minutes" doesn't mean it is not classified.

Just stop

Posted: 10/20/2016 10:59:17 AM EDT

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Not classified. This was on 60 Minutes like a month ago.

Just because something os on "60 minutes" doesn't mean it is not classified.

Right, maybe Radiohead got ahold of that same "classified" documentation, too

Posted: 10/20/2016 11:00:44 AM EDT

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lovely bit of propaganda there. 4 minutes launch to impact across the US? intradasting.

I love the end part. Russia will destroy all urban centers?

Posted: 10/20/2016 11:01:18 AM EDT

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Ok, can someone explain why this is a big deal? I mean, from a strategic standpoint how is this compromising information? Wouldn't it be safe to assume we have a very tight window between the call and the response? Four minutes could be a very short time or a very long time, I honestly don't know which is which in this scenario.

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First, if it's classified, it's classified. I personally have seen shit pulled from public sources marked classified. Makes no sense, but it is what it is. It's not the first time a public speaker has dropped some knowledge on the mike for whatever reason, too.

Second, knowing what our planning to execution time is a critical tidbit. What if you can move and deploy a tactical strike in that window to sever that chain? What if you can get all your stuff out of the silos and in play before we can respond and splash them on the ground?

What if, since you know it takes Nnn minutes, and two have elapsed, you know where they are in the decision making process? What if you get to minute five and so you know we aren't retaliating?

You can assume, and make educated guesses, and try to piece it together via clandestine means, but I'm betting that shit was close hold and valid and she screwed up. I wish Trump had called her on it. It would be the piece of resistance.

Bitch, there you go again! Want me to look at your notes and draw c's all over it. Oh yeah, you don't know what that means...

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Let me add another thought. If some blowhard on the net says, yeah, from launch indication to EAM is 3.5 minutes, we can all roll our eyes. But when a person who has hanged out in the oval office, held a job that might need to know that information, and then says it with conviction, she lends credence to the disclosure. That's why she shouldn't say things like that as specifically as she did, even if she was wrong.

Posted: 10/20/2016 11:03:19 AM EDT

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Trump isn't wrong about Hillary being bad for our country.

Posted: 10/20/2016 11:17:18 AM EDT

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I think Hillary planned the nuke/4min line to cast an unrealistic image of Trump being petulant with nukes and then also to play those that are running this as big deal. If you run this on social media you will be exposed as the uniformed. I'm miffed that we aren't talking about Hillary's State Dept loosing 6 Billion dollars, attacking countries with no American interest and then lying to the world when arms smuggling is botched....or may be that she didn't deny the Wikileaks, but blamed it on the Russians, the same people she did the shady uranium deal with......and let's not get started on her relations with the House of Saud and the missteps we continue in the Middle East. Sigh.....the real issues at hand only lightly get mentioned by the informed and then are lost to what she wants you to do......don't be a tool.

Posted: 10/20/2016 11:56:30 AM EDT

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The 4 minute warning has been known for decades.......even made it to MTV before some of you were old enough to whine about this red herring. Americans are truly ignorant and overly reactive people.

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That 4 minute response is the time it would take Russian missiles to reach London. It was not our response time to launch ours.

Posted: 10/20/2016 12:02:39 PM EDT

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Not classified. This was on 60 Minutes like a month ago.

Just because something os on "60 minutes" doesn't mean it is not classified.

Just stop

Just because FHRC says it, doesn't mean it's true.

Posted: 10/20/2016 12:04:06 PM EDT

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Not classified. This was on 60 Minutes like a month ago.

Just because something os on "60 minutes" doesn't mean it is not classified.

This ... and the OP has a tank???

Posted: 10/20/2016 12:07:10 PM EDT

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It's a jail able offence

Not if you're Hilary Clinton.

Posted: 10/20/2016 12:10:23 PM EDT

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She's fucking retarded. Even if Trump were the trigger happy nuke launcher that they are painting him as he wouldn't be able to do shit if the country opposed the actions. They act like there is a big red button on the oval office desk to scare the idiots into believing Trump will cause nuclear war.

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They truly believe all a President has to do is hit a button and all nukes are launched. No they truly believe that one person has all that power alone. Why do they believe it? Because they secretly years for someone like them to have such power.

Posted: 10/20/2016 12:43:13 PM EDT

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Not classified. This was on 60 Minutes like a month ago.

Just because something os on "60 minutes" doesn't mean it is not classified.

This ... and the OP has a tank???

Laugh at him all you like, but we used to get really nervous about some of the shit published in Popular Science, and lecture our students not to discuss that shit when they were on leave, if people asked them about it.